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Here are some reasons why I believe "till" should be used in the page name: | Here are some reasons why I believe "till" should be used in the page name: | ||
* Google: ~12,000 hits for the phrase with "'til" and ~30,000 for the phrase with "till" (~11,000 hits with "until" ) | * Google: ~12,000 hits for the phrase with "'til" and ~30,000 for the phrase with "till" (~11,000 hits with "until" ) | ||
* Grammar: According to "The Columbia Guide to Standard American English" (1993), " 'Til is a variant spelling used by those who think (incorrectly) that till is a clipped form. At best it looks old-fashioned and self-conscious. Use till instead." | * Grammar: According to "The Columbia Guide to Standard American English" (1993), " 'Til is a variant spelling used by those who think (incorrectly) that till is a clipped form. At best it looks old-fashioned and self-conscious. Use till instead." ] 18:31, 25 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
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*'''Oppose''' it could also be . The article is fine as it is. --] <sup>(])</sup> 20:44, 25 May 2007 (UTC) | *'''Oppose''' it could also be . The article is fine as it is. --] <sup>(])</sup> 20:44, 25 May 2007 (UTC) |
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Origination
This term was indeed coined by sportscaster Dan Cook. {{helpme}} I wish to insert part of an internet article with additional information on the subject, but your information on additions state that is not permissible.
I was sure I had seen that "saying" in "Catcher in the Rye" when I read it in the early fifties.
Found substantiation of its use by Salinger on a page entitled "Mr. Gross' Home Page" at a site named Webdreamer
I hope I am not violating a rule by clicking 'Save page' I am entirely new to participating.
Thank you
Franmorris 05:34, 10 December 2006 (UTC)=franmorris
- It's copyright if you just save copy and paste. If you can reword it, so this not a generic copy, then its allowed. Have a read of WP:Copyright Brian | (Talk) 06:24, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I am not sure it the article is factually correct; at least, this page: claims Cook didn't actually invent the phrase.
Requested move
This template must be substituted. Replace {{Requested move ...}} with {{subst:Requested move ...}}. Here are some reasons why I believe "till" should be used in the page name:
- Google: ~12,000 hits for the phrase with "'til" and ~30,000 for the phrase with "till" (~11,000 hits with "until" )
- Grammar: According to "The Columbia Guide to Standard American English" (1993), " 'Til is a variant spelling used by those who think (incorrectly) that till is a clipped form. At best it looks old-fashioned and self-conscious. Use till instead." Ulmanor 18:31, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose it could also be It’s not over until the fat lady sings. The article is fine as it is. --evrik 20:44, 25 May 2007 (UTC)