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| ::I hate to butt in here, as you probably know, I still contribute to several (non WP related) articles around here, I think you need to review your definition of "Nazi". (As some may know, I no longer contribute to the WP scene, I'm just here to be encyclopedic.) | |||
| ::From dictionary.com Na·zi: A member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, founded in Germany in 1919 and brought to power in 1933 under Adolf Hitler. | |||
| ::The PLY is not a member party of the NSDAP, considering the NSDAP died out in 1945, the claim that they are related is just not feasible. They do, however, subscribe to the politics of National Socialism, and in this light, I am changed the opening paragraph. - ] | |||
Revision as of 05:01, 28 June 2005
Racist and neo-Nazi claims
"nationalistic, racist, neo-nazi youth organization in Australia" - Isnt this a rather one-sided view of it? Can anyone give a more NPOV description of this org?
- Um... that is an NPOV description. Let's break it down.
- 1. They're nationalisitc.
- 2. They're racist.
- 3. They're a neo-nazi group.
- 4. They're a youth organization. FightDemBack 07:33, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Removed defamatory POV. - NZNF
- I've restored it but attributed it to the Sydney Morning Herald. SlimVirgin 06:30, May 12, 2005 (UTC)
- Much better. ;) - Molloy
Intro
I've restored my intro again, and have moved this: "Sydney President Andrew Wilson admitted to The Herald that Stuart McBeth founded an Australian branch of the Volksfront, an American neo-Nazi group, and that the PYL shares a PO Box with same." As it was the second sentence, the reader didn't know what "Sydney president" meant, or who Andrew Wilson and Stuart McBeth were. I had to guess that "Sydney president" meant president of the Sydney branch of the PYL, and that's how I've described him; if that's wrong, please correct. SlimVirgin 18:29, May 20, 2005 (UTC)
Links
I've put the links to FightDemBack and the PYL spoof back, as they're entirely relevant to the subject at hand. Both were created to oppose the PYL... to omit them is unencyclopedic and POV. FightDemBack 03:28, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
- I've put the PYL spoof link back, Jason... I'll explain why, in a second. For the record, when you removed the "four" FDB links before, you removed the spoof page and the actual link to FDB, leaving the Darpism link up. What the? I'd posit that the Darpism link is relevant, because Darpism practically destroyed the PYL, but I'll concede that since it's all repeated in FDB, it's no longer necessary. You can't remove the PYL spoof on the basis of POV, homes... Everything in those external links has a POV. The PYL website has a POV. The PYL's blog has a POV. FDB has a POV. It's relevant, and it should stay.
Nazis etc.
Anon, let me break it down for you.
The PYL is the youth wing of violent neo-nazi group National Action. Nazis. PYL members, including Stuart McBeth and Luke Connors, post on neo-nazi forum Stormfront. Nazis. Stuart McBeth believes Aryans have a higher culture ]. Nazis.
What I want you to do, is read those articles there on the page. Read all of the words, and note the dates before coming up with any more political malice theories.
Let's work on making this the most accurate encyclopedia that we can, okay. Cheers FightDemBack 14:35, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I hate to butt in here, as you probably know, I still contribute to several (non WP related) articles around here, I think you need to review your definition of "Nazi". (As some may know, I no longer contribute to the WP scene, I'm just here to be encyclopedic.)
- From dictionary.com Na·zi: A member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, founded in Germany in 1919 and brought to power in 1933 under Adolf Hitler.
- The PLY is not a member party of the NSDAP, considering the NSDAP died out in 1945, the claim that they are related is just not feasible. They do, however, subscribe to the politics of National Socialism, and in this light, I am changed the opening paragraph. - Molloy