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• WLU's essay for beginners
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The historic basis of myalgic encephalomyelitis

• http://www.investinme.org/Documents/PDFdocuments/Byron%20Hyde%20Little%20Red%20Book%20for%20www.investinme.org.pdf
• http://www.investinme.org/Documents/PDFdocuments/Byron%20Hyde%20Definition%20Booklet.pdf
• http://www.wicfs-me.org/Pdf%20Files/Byron%20Hyde%20-%20Complexities%20of%20Diagnosis.pdf

ME is essentially a vasculitis. It was defined as such by the Harvard neurologist Charles Poser, Hyde believes this based on SPECT and autopsy, so does Spence and many, many others. Children did die at Akureyri, they were autopsied. The same happened with one death in Newcastle of an ME patient. ALL had vascular defects.

I don't intend to get involved in the debate but you seem such a decent person I thought I'd pass on these references in case you didn't know them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.108.100.99 (talk) 20:47, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I have these references, as well as Byron Hyde's 1992 book. Guido den Broeder 20:57, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Excellent!!! I have just been put on midodrine. I feel ten years younger- amazing drug. BUT of course what is right for me may not be right for someone else. Everyone is different. Something Byron knows, very, very well. My own physician is more local than Canada I should add. I wish you luck with wikipedia. It is indeed very, very maoist. I have no time for it really. Yes I did nearly die climbing in the Tien Shan etc. Myalgic EncephalomyelITIS. It is a vascular problem.

88.108.25.209 15:19, 9 October 2007 (UTC)alpinist

Hi Guido, good work on the recent contributions, especially regarding the controversial history. - Tekaphor 10:37, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Raggedy Ann Syndrome

The reference you provided for the term "Raggedy Ann Syndrome" was broken. I could not find a direct reference to Dr Cheney on PubMed. Failing Hyde, is there any other source that we could use to document this archaic term? JFW | T@lk 20:55, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I can't remember giving this reference, but there is a chapter(?) titled thus in Hilary Johnson, "Osler's Web: Inside the Labyrinth of the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Epidemic", ISBN 0595348742 . Guido den Broeder 21:19, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Have a page number, so we can actually cite this? JFW | T@lk 11:56, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Glad to be of help. Follow the link: pages 24-38. Guido den Broeder 12:05, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

ME/CFS

Hi Guido, I am interested in any references you might have on 'The immune system acts like there is ongoing inflammation'. The essential fatty acid work i recently added to Immune Dysfunction discussion , supports this and I want now to look more closely at immune system findings. Regards Jagra 09:56, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Re ME/CVS Vereniging AfD

You may want to add some policy-based reasons to your !vote. If you don't, the closing admin will have to disregard it. S/he will also have to take into account the reasons you gave (which amount to a statement that this was a bad faith nomination). The latter will, no doubt, be interpreted as a personal attack on the nominator if left in place, weakening any otherwise acceptable arguments. Avb 00:20, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Done, thanks. Guido den Broeder 10:58, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Anti-oxidants

Hi Guido, a certain editor is reverting edits regarding anti-oxidants in CFS on spurious grounds. Firstly as unreliable source here which I had overturned on the WP RSN <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Lupin/navpop.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css&dontcountme=s">ine_Review here, and now as Fringe theory, which I sure could be easily overturned, as the hypothesis is and in some cases has been tested. Rather than continue his edit war I have posted a Discussion on anti-oxidants and seek a consensus on the Talk page for an replacement section. Jagra 03:23, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

re comment at WP:ANI regarding OrangeMarlin

Er... you do realise that you are self identifying as a troll, per Orangemarlins comments, than a bystander? :~) LessHeard vanU (talk) 16:39, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

No need to, he already gave me that stamp: . Regards, Guido den Broeder (talk) 17:18, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Homeopathy spirit?

Still waiting for an answer to your positing of "spirit" and "essence" as being involved in the mechanism for homeopathy. Naturezak (talk) 17:12, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I have no position on the matter. Guido den Broeder (talk) 17:41, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Warning

Please do not undo other people's edits repeatedly, as you are doing in Objections to evolution, or you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. The three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the 3RR. Thank you. As I am sure you are aware, if you continue down the path you are on you might be subject to administrative action.--Filll (talk) 18:05, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for confirming that the statement is disputed. What I did was tag it as such. You should therefore address the user that removed the tag, i.e. Orangemarlin. Guido den Broeder (talk) 18:12, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Orangemarlin

Hi. You seem to have a problem with Orangemarlin, who I generally find OK. I would like to be able to offer to talk it over with you, there is clearly a pressing need for someone to help here, but unfortunately my private email is down due to an ADSL outage. I'm going to reconfigure my spamcop account for webmail mode so I can send you a mail and maybe get a reply; I'd like to be able to help if possible, but can't be as responsive as I'd like. Mind, being Christmas I'd not be that responsive anyway. Still and all, if the two of you are willing to talk to me perhaps we can work things out? Guy (Help!) 18:13, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Not interested. This user has made a death threat. That closes all possibilities for reconciliation. Guido den Broeder (talk) 18:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I reviewed the edit at hand, where you are making a problematic accusation that I'm making a death threat. Firstly, "execute" is an American colloquial term used to remove someone from anything. It is not used in a sense to terminate one's life, unless it is specifically used in that sense, like executing a prisoner or something similar. Second, my figurative use of "execute" was intended for socks and sockpuppets who seem to be invading several articles. The person mentioned in the conversation above was blocked as a sock. So, I assume that you're not a sock, in which case my figurative statement did not include you. OrangeMarlin 19:06, 24 December 2007 (UTC) This user is on my ignore list since 20071225. Guido den Broeder (talk) 23:34, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

• Guido, if you are going to decide to simply ignore everyone who disagrees with you then you are probably going to end up banned, because that is not a part of collegial working. You do seem burned out. You need to find a "critical friend" who can help you; I value the advice of David Gerard because he has a history of accurately pointing out when I've made an ass of myself, and we disagree on many things. Talking only to those with whom you agree is pretty destructive, especially if you are not taking the scientific mainstream side in a science-related dispute. Take care, Guy (Help!) 23:41, 24 December 2007 (UTC) This user is on my ignore list since 20071225. Guido den Broeder (talk) 23:44, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry about these guys

It seems to me that some of the editors on Intelligent Design and evolution pages are very stuck in their agenda-pushing ways; they want wikipedia to portray evolution in only a favorable light, and any disagreement means you're a stupid creationist. Ignore them, and keep fighting for good, neutral articles, that portray this difficult, disputed subject correctly. GusChiggins21 (talk) 07:32, 25 December 2007 (UTC)