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New Albums
Somebody needs to add Eminem's Two newest albums to the page: "TBM" and "The pre-king Mathers". i own both and i was hopeing to be aboul to read something about them but they weren't there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.103.191.96 (talk) 17:05, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
SoundScan date
how was the SoundScan data found for this page? 134.69.166.49 06:31, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Add This
http://en.wikipedia.org/Eminem:_Get_the_Guns
Latvian chart numbers
I removed the info on how well some of the singles charted in Lativa. No offense intended to anyone from Latvia, but this is not important information.
Even if it were necessary to add chart numbers from countries besides UK/US, I think other countries with larger markets would come first... Garrettcobb 22:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Missing Album
Recently, I came across a song called "The Kidz" by Eminem. When I looked up the lyrics on letssingit it was listed(along with several other songs) under the album title "Off the Wall". I'd like to know why that album isn't listed here.
- Off The Wall was a bootleg made up of songs that were bonus tracks on singles or albums (as in the case of "The Kids" - it was a bonus track on the Marshall Mathers LP in the UK), songs from other artists that Eminem featured on and leaked tracks that didn't make it onto his albums. I don't think it should be on there as there were no new tracks on that bootleg. Straight From The Lab EP, while also a bootleg, was made up entirely of new tracks so it makes sense that it stays. 86.134.199.92 20:00, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
FACK
I deleted FACK from the list of singles. It's on Curtain Call, but it's not going to be released as a single.86.134.199.92 10:58, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Guest Appearances
Fixed the links to Duets: The Final Chapter and Devil Without a Cause.86.134.199.92 19:15, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Other rare tracks?
I think other tracks such as 'Hellbound' should be included, perhaps in a new section, stating where they came from (The Kids could be included in this); to give a comprehensive list. The hellbound H&H remix was on the compilation CD (ie various artists) 'game over'. is that where it came from.. what about the un-remixed version.. does it even exist?.. anyway i'm sure there are many more tracks that arent on any of the albums or bootlegs listed. actually i shall start this but it certainly needs more input.. Also, what about being an honourary memeber of the 'Outsidaz' on their 'Night Life' CD?Bungalowbill 16:35, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
(probably most) complete eminem discography
Can someone integrate the list from http://www.d12world.com/board/showthread.php?t=243665 here..?
Formatting
I'm going to start reformatting this discogrpahy like The Beatles discography, if anyone wants assist. Phoenix2 18:22, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Stop Changing Format
Please do not change the format of the article. Misplaced Pages discography's are made to be split up into sections. Underground albums do not go with mainstream albums License2Kill 18:33, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Sales Number
What's up with the fake certifications? Check the friggin' riaa.com searchable database and you'll find his real certifications, such as Encore going 4x Platiunum and The MM LP going 9x. Kajito 22:49, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- The riaa does not report on albums 8 years after they come out. The last time they probably reported on one of his albums, it was most likely a platinum certification lower than it currently is.
Removed vandalism
I have removed recent vandalism from this page License2Kill 22:06, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
RIAA Certifications
Please stop changing the official RIAA certifications. Go to RIAA.com and you'll see that Slim Shady LP is 4x, Marshall Mathers LP is 9x, Eminem Show is 8x, Encore is 4x, Curtain Call: The Hits is 2x, 8 Mile is 4x, Devil's Night is 1x, and D12 World is 2x. SlimShady6135 20:26, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- The RIAA does not report on albums 5,6,7, or 8 years after they come out. The Slim Shady LP sold over 3 million by the end of 1999, 4,707,000 by mid 2000, and over 5.3 million now. Look in the 8 Mile DVD under biography, it says that The Slim Shady LP has sold over 5 million in the U.S. and over 8 million world wide (which is currently 9 million). The Marshall Mathers LP sold over 8 million by the end of 2000. By late 2001, it's sales figure was 9.4 million. It was certified diamond in 2003. Everybody who knows anything about rap knows that there are 4 rap albums to sell 10 million: Please Hammer Don't Hurt Em', Life After Death, The Marshall Mathers LP, and Speakerboxx/The Love Below. The Eminem Show sold 7.6 million by the end of 2002 and 8.8 million by the end of 2003. I don't know exactly how much it is currently at but I know that an album that has sold 8,885,000 (according to the very reliable Rolling Stone Magazine) by late 2002 has been able to sell a measly 115,000 in over 4 years. Encore sold 4.7 million by mid to late 2005. Almost all reports on Eminem involving his albums, discography, or record sales have clocked Encore at over 5 million. An album doesn't even always have to sell the exact number of millions to be certified that many times platinum. I know that an album (especially an Eminem album) can sell 200 to 300 thousand in nearly 2 years. Devil's Night sold 524,000 copies in it's first week of release. It's common sense that an album that has sold over half a million in one week will sell way more than another half million in the following 6 years. It's at 2.2 million. Go to the billboardcharts.com and you will see that The Re-Up has the platinum symbol next to its name. Plus 925,000 (that's what The Re-Up's current sales figure is) is more than enough to get a platinum certification for shipments of over 1 million copies.
The RIAA certifications only apply to the United States and not the rest of the world. Could anyone find out his FULL total. Its around 65/70 million i believe.
- The Slim Shady LP has sold 9 million worldwide, The Marshall Mathers LP-21 million, The Eminem Show-20 million, and Encore-12.5 million. Plus Curtain Call's 7 million. That would put him at well over 70 million if all of the hundred thousands were to be counted.
Yes, but it doesn't help to just guess how many times platinum it went worldwide. Either find a source and post it or don't change it at all. SlimShady6135 19:39, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Would someone add that he has sold over 70 million? Refere http://www.mtv.tv/mtv.tv/dynamo/shells/artist_of_the_week.jhtml;jsessionid=GYCT1VPRA0ZFDQFIAIISFE4AVABBEIV0?article=30113358nce (This is also Ref 5 on the main page) I will leave it for somone to place appropriately. Thanks
RIAA does update their figures. For example, Mariah Carey's numbers were updated 3 years ago from albums that were over 16 years old. Therefore, I am going to change the RIAA certifications to their correct certification. We are not going to guess what they will put later on. If we want to add sales numbers, go again and do so, but please do not change the RIAA certification when it has not been certified that yet. Ayumi4u 07:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- One artist is not enough to argue that the RIAA updates their figures. They might do that every 3 years for Mariah Carey but that's one person. Another thing is that they probably updated her sales figures because she was on the eve of a huge comeback with the Emancipation Of Mimi album. When someone is the center of attention, everybody gets the right info because that person is always on camera and being talked about. If you even read what I typed above then you wouldn't say I was just guessing. The numbers need to be changed. You don't know what it's been certified so far so stop lowering his numbers for your own personal pleasure.
- Personal pleasure? Please. You need to keep inflating his numbers. On the RIAA page, it says it is certified 9x PLATINUM. NOT DIAMOND. If we are going to use RIAA certification, then we are going to put the CORRECT CERTIFICATION. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about if you say I don't know what it has been certified. Go their website, http://www.riaa.com. Go to search data base and type in Eminem. You will see that the certifications we will be using are in there, which is 9x platinum, not diamond. Your Mariah Carey arguement can be thrown out for the following reason: they updated her figures about 3 years ago, which is 2 years before her comeback. She was not even close to center of attention then. If you want me to find more artists believe me I can. They've done so with Whitney Houston, The Beatles, etc. I am trying to be neutral, in fact on the Mariah page they've inflated her sales a lot too. Everyone does it. I'm here to put the correct sales. However, if you want to put his CORRECT sold number of cds according to soundscan, you may do so, just put the correct number. Bottom line: he has no diamond albums as of 4/12/07 according to the RIAA, which is what we are using. Ayumi4u 23:46, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
what a lot of people changing the certs don't understand is that an album's RIAA certification does not necessarily reflect actual retail sales. RIAA certification is a service that the artist's record company has to pay for. If Interscope has not applied for new certifications of Eminem's albums recently (and they haven't), retail sales since the last certification will not be reflected. So the current solution, which is to post Soundscan figures (which are more up-to-date) below the RIAA cert, is probably the best way to go. If an album has sold 10 million copies in the U.S. but is only 5x Platinum, that generally just means the album has sold about five million copies since the record label last had it certified. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE ALBUM IS 10X PLATINUM. IT WILL ONLY REACH THAT LEVEL WHEN THE ARTIST'S LABEL APPLIES FOR NEW CERTIFICATIONS. (As an additional note, ukmix.org reports that music club sales in the U.S., which aren't tracked by Soundscan, stand at about 1.5 million. Whether we want to include music club sales where available is another issue, but combined with the Soundscan total of about 10 million, estimated U.S. sales of "Marshall Mathers" stand at about 11.5 million. Visit http://ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21747&start=0 for more information.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.155.209.26 (talk) 17:37, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- See WP:RS - forums aren't a reliable source. Spellcast (talk) 18:47, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Pictures
Who got rid of the album pictures. I would put them back if I knew how but I don't so somebody please do it. It makes the page look better. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.158.207.111 (talk) 22:13, 7 April 2007 (UTC).
Label
Eminem excluding D12 albums has only released two albums on Shady Records (The Re-up and the 8-mile soundtrack). The Marshall Mathers LP, Slim Shady LP, The Eminem Show, Encore, and Curtain Call have all been Aftermath albums.
TahoeLT 23:01, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- Please explain your edits in an edit summary, and please give sources where appropriate. Without either, your edits are very likely to be reverted. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 09:03, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Album Covers
add the album covers to his albums info, same with 50 Cent, Nas, The Game (rapper) add album covers looks nicer.. why to remove and limit? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Football 7 (talk • contribs) 18:34, 3 May 2007 (UTC).
List of songs produced by Eminem
This either needs to be merged ad redirected here or deleted. I was about to open an AfD, but if someone does the merging, that would be fine; I'll hold off for a couple of days. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 21:28, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Images
Hey people, i just wanted to tell that, it was me who added the album covers to this article. Don't remove it please, looks much better with covers. Football 7 16:39, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
seconded and redone Superior1 06:48, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Somethings wrong
Eminem has sold over 65,000,000 albums but when I count it up all on this page it only ads up to 36,000,000
- Worldwide, he has sold over 70 million, you probably added up his U.S. sales.
Bootlegs
I think that bootleg albums should be deleted, because they aren't official. Daniil Maslyuk 11:47, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, they're really nothing important. Steppin onto the Scene should be removed also. I have a full discography list of Eminem, and Steppin onto the Scene is one of like ten different albums made from 1988-1992 or something like that. It's really nothing important at all. SlimShady6135 21:08, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- I nominated the articles for deletion. Please vote here. Daniil Maslyuk 07:49, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Why? Some of them have unreleased songs, so I could search for them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.118.197 (talk) 05:41, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Encore Sales
Sales for 2004 were 3,517,097 and 1,385,256 for 2006 . Total is 4,902,332 up to 31/12/06. Sales since then will have been less than 5,000 copies per week, otherwise would be featuring on the Soundscan weekly top 200 album sales chart. Last known entry was 28/10/2005 at #191. Therefore for 2007, maximum sales to date would be 130,000 and more likely 50% of this figure to 65,000. Overall marginally under 5 million, but closer to this than other figures quoted. 60.234.242.196 01:04, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Curtain Call Sales
Appears on the top200 for week of 14/04/2007 but does not exist for next closest top200 found on 28/04/07. Was selling approx. 4,500 copies per week at that stage. Maggott2000 02:50, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Slim Shady and The Marshall Mathers LP
Although forums are not considered a verified source, has significant sales data. The Marshall Mathers album it states is certified 9x platinum by RIAA, sold 10,010,000 by Soundscan, and 1,540,000 by BMG Music Club. The BMG figure can be verified here - . Slim Shady has sold 1.2 million via BMG as per same link. Maggott2000 21:19, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
- How did the person who posted those sales get their information? Soundscan figures aren't even generally available to the public. Spellcast 10:32, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- They are available to anyone who subscribes. But they are not supposed to be posted on the net, and Soundscan normally come down very hard when they find out who did post. Maggott2000 08:21, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Encore
Wasn't Encore also distributed by Shady Records? Because I thought Shady would distribute everything for Eminem after The Marshall Mathers LP (except for Curtain Call). --- Realest4Life 12:51, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Why
Everything was going so well on this page until some hater erased the actual soundscan sales. Stop. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.19.119.10 (talk • contribs)
Worldwide Sales
So what if that stupid Biogs foolishness says his 2nd and 3rd albums did 19 mill. There are a hundred million other websites that say differently. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.34.11.24 (talk • contribs)
- Biogs.com is defintely not a reliable source because it doesn't have credited authors. Are you saying that the 19 million number is inflated? Spellcast 10:37, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Mixtapes
I removed these because it's not clear if these are official Eminem mixtapes or not. If anyone has a source showing they're official, just add it back.
- Shade 45: Sirius Bizness
- The Freestyle Manual
- Anger Management 3
- Mick Boogie Presents the Pre-Up
- Invasion Part 1
- Conspiracy Theory: Invasion Part II
- Invasion Part 3: Countdown to Armageddon
- Shady 08:Shoot To Kill
- 8 Mile Freestyles
- Shady Records: Promo
- Shady Records: Ransom Note
Spellcast (talk) 17:05, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
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