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::Yes, for the Old Norse pronunciation - though I suspect the g was already palatilized by then, i.e. θorcerðr. Well done. ] (]) 22:52, 28 June 2008 (UTC) | ::Yes, for the Old Norse pronunciation - though I suspect the g was already palatilized by then, i.e. θorcerðr. Well done. ] (]) 22:52, 28 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Thanks indeed
Kœri vinur! Það er hœgt að vera í margs konar klípu, (sorry have no Icelandic script keyboard )and you lent me a hand out of the blue, as I was sinking. For which, heartfelt thanks Með alúðarkveðju Nishidani 17:16, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- Aww, that's very sweet of you. And the Icelandic is flawless, if a bit old-fashioned :) Haukur 17:34, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
All Things Yule & You
Hello! It's that time of the year again. As you might know, right now there are an amount of subjects relating to Yule that I feel your valuable contributions would greatly assist with. Since these pages will soon see some heavy traffic (and subsequently information derived from them will too), you are most welcome to join me on editing and sourcing these subjects:
Santa-related:
There's probably an amount more too. I've passed this on to some other users who I think would be of help in this area also. Again, any help would be appreciated! :bloodofox: (talk) 09:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
RfA Thanks
Thank you for participating in my RfA, which was successful with a vote of 33/7/4.
Special thanks go to Epbr123 for nominating me and Pedro for the offer of help.
I am honoured by the trust placed in me by the community. I hope to repay this by the wise use of the tools, which I intend to use gradually. Mop & bucket is on the Christmas list - honest. Keith D (talk) 00:34, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Your question...
Apologies for the time taken. I trust you got the note to keep you informed. But it's there now :)
I also noticed that you added a vote to the arb page; that said, I'm not aware that this changes the commitment to answer the question anyhow.
Thanks!
FT2 08:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
MOS: images
Surely those who specify 300px will see a difference if 280 rather than 240 is specified ... Tony (talk) 01:07, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yes - but I don't know what implications you feel this has. Could you elaborate? My main point is that the vast majority of readers are not logged in and that the vast majority of those who are logged in never change their preferences. The default 180 pixel size is widely felt to be too small for many images - as we can quickly see by browsing through our featured articles. Haukur (talk) 09:21, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Hrynhenda
Sjá Hafgerðingadrápu. Það eru að vísu aðeins tvær línur (og rangt kveðnar, þ.e. ofstuðlaðar), en þær eru eldri. Þær koma fyrir, minnir mig í einhverjum af Grænlandstengdu sögunum.
- Mínar biðk ek munka reyni
- meinalausan faralds beina.
Mig minnir raunar, án þess að nenna að fletta því upp, að línurnar séu fjórar, en hinar man ég í brotum:
- Heiðis haldi hárrar foldar
- hallar drottinn of mér stalli.
Flettu þessu upp. Ég nenni því ekki í bili.
Gaman að heyra í þér aftur.
Ég er að hugsa um að taka niður tilikynningu um, að búðin sé lokuð.
Kær kveðja Io (talk) 22:59, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
PS: Er Misplaced Pages fíkn?
Ég lokaði síðunni minni með tilkynningu á henni, ætlaði að taka hálfs árs hlé eða svo, en hefi samt aldrei getað stillt mig um að laumast inn og breytt einhverju smávægilegu. Cheers Io (talk) 23:23, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Er orustan glötuð?
Er orðið ómögulegt að halda nokkurn veginn réttri stafsetningu á því, sem lýtur að fornnorrænu? Eins og Rommel sagði e-n tíma: Maður skal ekki fara í orustu, ef maður græðir ekkert á því að vinna hana.
Þetta eru einhver greindarlegustu orð, sem ég hefi heyrt höfð eftir hershöfðingja.
Kær kveðja Io (talk) 23:58, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
- Neinei, ég held að stafsetningin hafi heldur þokast í rétta átt :) Ég er samt ekki jafnduglegur að þrasa í því og ég var. Haukur (talk) 22:37, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Reply
I've posted a belated reply to your question on my talk page. Cheers! Unschool (talk) 07:40, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Canvassing?
Hey, I'm just trying to get a handle on this canvassing stuff. So I'm soliciting your opinion. The other day, just about the time we were discussing this whole canvassing issue, I got this message on my talk page. Now I've never heard of this editor. The only thing that I can think of that caused him to single me out is that I've edited a few times (over a year ago, if memory serves) to John Roberts. Oh, I might've hit on some of these other pages—the US Supreme Court is a topic of some minor interest to me—but I don't recall. Anyway, so my question is, in your opinion, is this editor engaged in improper canvassing? And if so, how does it compare, in your opinion, to what I did? Just looking to learn, Unschool (talk) 11:06, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
- I'm a bit puzzled why he felt the need to contact so many people over this but when I look at the context I don't really find his effort objectionable. If this had been a long bitter revert-war, fought across multiple articles over a long time, possibly including straw polls, then I think trying to enlist all those people would have been objectionable. But the actual context is that an editor made some changes he didn't like and, instead of just reverting them, he went and argued his case for a revert to multiple third parties. It's certainly an unusual way to conduct business but I wouldn't really call it improper canvassing. Haukur (talk) 12:44, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Haukur, need some advice. I'm trying to spark a discussion on a policy page, dealing with the style of article leads. I've rarely visited policy pages, but when I have, I find them to be sparsely populated. How can I invite people to participate without violating canvassing guidelines? (As you can imagine, this has been a source of some frustration for me over the past couple of months.) Though we've often disagreed, I still find you to be one of the most knowledgeable people I've encountered on the project. Unschool (talk) 02:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
A request for your consideration regarding CAT:AOTR
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...My guinea pigs and the "A"s through "F"s having felt this message was OK to go forward with (or at least not complained bitterly to me about it :) ), today it's the turn of the "G"s, and "H"s! I'm hoping that more of you chaps/chapettes will point to their own criteria instead of mine :)... it's flattering but a bit scary! :) Also, you may want to check back to the table periodically, someone later than you in the alphabet may have come up with a nifty new idea. ++Lar: t/c 20:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Move of Scottish kings
There is a proposed move of Scottish kings at Talk:Kenneth I of Scotland that I thought I'd bring to your attention. I think you have had things to say on this subject in the past. Probably won't be successful, but that's wiki for you. Best regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 17:33, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- I already saw it. I see you're contacting a number of people - you may want to make sure that you're compliant with WP:CANVASS. Haukur (talk) 17:42, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- I contacted people irrespective of what I'd suspect they'd vote for, if that counts. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 17:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- That does count. Haukur (talk) 17:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- A move has been started on Hugh FitzKenneth of the Scots and the Picts. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 19:33, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- That does count. Haukur (talk) 17:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- I contacted people irrespective of what I'd suspect they'd vote for, if that counts. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 17:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Ullr's rings might interest you
Hi Haukur! As you wrote once in Ullr, Atlakviða talks of swearing oaths by "Ullr's ring". Swedish archaeologists are excavating a place called Lilla Ullevi ("little shrine of Ullr") and they have discovered many small "amulet rings" which they connect to the swearing of oaths by Ullr's ring. I thought it might interest you to see another piece of eddic information supported by modern archaeology.--Berig (talk) 18:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, that is quite interesting. Thank you! Would be nice to see a photo of that stone platform they're talking about. Haukur (talk) 19:52, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- I think that the stone platform is the mass of stones that you see in the article's picture.--Berig (talk) 19:55, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Wow, I must be the least observant man alive! I didn't even notice that the article had a picture. But, yes, clearly, this is the stone platform with the two "arms". Very nice! Haukur (talk) 20:24, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Translation of Icelandic album titles at "Paul Oscar"
Hi, thanks very much for the barnstar! If you've got time and the inclination, there are still some Icelandic album titles over at "Paul Oscar" that need translation into English. See "Talk:Paul Oscar#Help with new article "Paul Oscar"" (though the article is not so new any more). Happy new year! — Cheers, JackLee 14:37, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
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Thank you for your support in my RfA. It was definitely a dramatic debate, that landed on WP:100! I paid close attention to everything that was said, and, where possible, I will try to incorporate the (constructive) criticism towards being a better administrator. I'm taking things slowly for now, partially because of the holidays and all the off-wiki distractions. :) I'm also working my way through the Misplaced Pages:New admin school and double-checking the relevant policies, and will gradually phase into the use of the new tools. My main goals are to help out with various backlogs, but I also fully intend to keep on writing articles, as there are several more that I definitely want to get to WP:FA status! Thanks again, and have a great new year, --Elonka 18:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Sognamål
Now that was a quick edit... ;) It is good to see that there are other users that are interested in it too though. Are you sure it isn't older? Like I wrote in the talk page afterwards, in Sognamål it is blaur/blaor/blár (however you choose to write it). As you pointed out it is the same in Modern Icelandic, but it is also the same in Old Norse. I thought this was an older form that was retained in Icelandic and Sognamål, but that had evolved into "å" in most of the modern spoken Norwegian? -- Nidator 13:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- It's spelled the same in standardized Old Norse and Modern Icelandic (and Faroese) but that doesn't mean it was pronounced the same. Originally /á/ was a long version of /a/. In Icelandic, Faroese and Sognamål it developed into a diphthong. In most mainland Scandinavian dialects it developed into something else. Haukur (talk) 14:51, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, there you go; A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Then I have a suggestion for an alternative wording:
- That should be correct then. While I have your ear, or eyes rather, I have a question. I'm going to write a letter to an Icelander and wondering if the average Icelander would have any problems understanding it if I used conservative nynorsk. What do you think? -- Nidator 15:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- The Faroese diphthong is actually different, more like "oa" than "ao" in this very loose transcription. As for conservative nynorsk, do you mean like "Eg hev boki med visone"? I don't know. Someone who is interested in languages or good at one of the mainland Scandinavian languages will probably be fine. But some people don't really like trying to puzzle out something they don't quite understand and find even Faroese to be too burdensome. Most Icelanders are most familiar with Danish and have little or no exposure to nynorsk. The thing I found most confusing about nynorsk before I learned the grammar were the words with definitive articles without -n (boki, visa etc.) It's not really intuitive for an Icelander that "vise" is a word without article and "visa" is a word with article - in cases like that Danish or conservative bokmål is probably easier, even if nynorsk (and radical bokmål) are, of course, closer to Icelandic in actually distinguishing masculine and feminine nouns. Haukur (talk) 15:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'll skip the reference to Faroese then. Yes, it was something like that I had in mind, even though being from Trøndelag I usually write quite a bit closer to the infamous samnorsk. I thought it might be easier for an Icelander to understand as it is closer to Icelandic, but I had forgotten that you learn Danish in school. If that is the most troublesome aspect though I could always write "bokin" and "visan" instead. I'm not sure I could bring myself to writing riksmål... hehe -- Nidator 15:47, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- Heh, sure - you can always invent your own Norwegian, it seems plenty of other people have :) Haukur (talk) 15:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'll skip the reference to Faroese then. Yes, it was something like that I had in mind, even though being from Trøndelag I usually write quite a bit closer to the infamous samnorsk. I thought it might be easier for an Icelander to understand as it is closer to Icelandic, but I had forgotten that you learn Danish in school. If that is the most troublesome aspect though I could always write "bokin" and "visan" instead. I'm not sure I could bring myself to writing riksmål... hehe -- Nidator 15:47, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- Indeed, Norwegian is such a wide continuum of spoken and written language that you have an almost infinite number of permutations, especially now that it has become very common to just write your dialect informally. I'm not sure you'll find "bokin" anywhere though, at least not in this day and age. Anyway, thanks for the advice. I'm sure I'll figure it out. -- Nidator 16:11, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- What you wrote about the nouns made me curious, so I decided to look up the older writing norms and it turns out that in Ivar Aasen's Norwegian writing norm of 1864, which is now most commonly referred to as høgnorsk (High Norwegian), the -n is indeed there, albeit optional.
- Visa - Visa(n) - Visor - Visorna
- Skaal - Skaali(n) - Skaaler - Skaalerna
- Surprisingly, to me at least, it also contains plurals for verbs. I hope I'm not boring you with this. :) -- Nidator 22:58, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- No, I think it's quite interesting! I didn't know Aasen had an optional -n there. Fairly close to Swedish there (and, of course, to Old Norse). Haukur (talk) 23:18, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- Verbal plurals were the norm in written Danish at the time, weren't they? "Han er / de ere". Haukur (talk) 23:19, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, I also noticed the similarity with Swedish. That norm really is very conservative compared even to the most conservative end of current official nynorsk. Much more so than I was aware of. A reform is under way for nynorsk, by the way. I don't know quite what it will entail, but it is expected to remove both the most conservative and the most centric forms. I believe you are correct with regards to Danish. In, for example, Henrik Wergeland's "Vi ere en Nation, vi med" you have examples of both. -- Nidator 00:23, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Greenlandic Norse language, was selected for DYK!
On January 16, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Greenlandic Norse language, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 16:33, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, this is very interesting. I had been wondering if there was any information on whether or not the Old West Norse language in Greenland had evolved into a separate Greenlandic language. Thank you for taking the time to make this article, Haukurth. -- Nidator 07:10, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Bobby Fischer
It is entirely proper, and recommended, that a tag be put on an article in order to complete editing which takes more than two minutes to complete, especially when intervening editors bar the completion. It is not inappropriate, and in fact, is rude, to continue to edit over that tag. If others would take time out to allow the completion of the edit, and the person who placed can then remove it, a lot of time would be saved. I don't know to what "cases like that this" you are referring, but to remove it and continue to edit over it is rude and inappropriate. Wildhartlivie (talk) 15:01, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
- It's a nice tag for relatively low traffic articles which two or three people are working actively on and don't want to trip each other up. It's useless for a high traffic in-the-news article - most people won't notice it, many are noobs, and some people will just ignore it. Many people want to add their two cents to the article now and there are bad edits to revert. Just practically speaking, that tag isn't going to do any good. Haukur (talk) 15:11, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Faroe Islands
Thanks for adding the results! So, there'll be a new, separatist government, then, as the separatists have a total of seventeen seats? Or are there other differences between them which are more important at the moment than independence or unionism (I've heard something about LGBT rights being an issue right now)? —Nightstallion 00:19, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- I watched a panel discussion with the party leaders on ru.fo. The opposition pointed out that they had gained and the government had lost, showing that the people wanted change. The government leaders pointed out that the government still had a large majority and was entirely viable for continuing. All options are on the table but the leaders of the present ruling parties will start by discussing a possible continuation of the government.
- There are certainly more issues than independence to be considered though it is still the single most important issue. Also note that Miðflokkurin had a big victory and they're basically a Christianist party, somewhat outside of the old battle lines. Haukur (talk) 00:27, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Could you be so kind as to tell me when new developments occur regarding the new government? Thanks! —Nightstallion 10:53, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Certainly! Haukur (talk) 11:18, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Could you be so kind as to tell me when new developments occur regarding the new government? Thanks! —Nightstallion 10:53, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Not Laugardalur; Laugardælir
I think the interwiki link was correct, based on articles on the Internet. See the Chessbase article and spelling used. Chessy999 (talk) 13:50, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well, it's certainly not Laugardalur in Reykjavík - there is another Laugardalur. But the farm is called Laugardælir and the church is Laugardælir Church. Haukur (talk) 13:59, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- To clarify, I believe Laugardælir is in Laugardalur so both are correct. But that Laugardalur is not the same as the Laugardalur in Reykjavík. Haukur (talk) 14:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
February 2008
When moving pages, as you did to Njál's saga, please remember to fix any double redirects. These can create slow, unpleasant experiences for the reader, waste server resources, and make the navigational structure of the site confusing. Specifically, when you moved this article to Njals saga, you created several double redirects as a result of pages which were redirects to the old title. I've fixed these myself, but just thought I'd let you know so you know to watch out for it in future. Thanks for reading. Terraxos (talk) 03:26, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, and by the way - can I suggest making a new archive of your Talk page? It's over 170KB long, making it rather slow and painful for me to edit. It's generally recommended that any page should be archived when it gets longer than 100KB. Terraxos (talk) 03:29, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
"the complication Sturlunga saga"
Well spotted! A Freudian slip if ever there was one ;-) Dependent Variable (talk) 18:46, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Iceland referendums
Hello Haukurth. I saw you made some edits to the 1944 referendum article I started. However, I also added a 1918 election to the template. Did this actually happen? One source makes reference to it in passing, but I can't find any other evidence whatsoever.
Also, do you know where I could find a list of pre-1946 elections?
Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ 57 12:37, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- There certainly was a referendum in 1918, where the Act of Union was approved with a large margin. Turnout was low, though.
- For a list of Icelandic referenda see is:Þjóðaratkvæðagreiðsla. For a list of Althing elections see is:Alþingiskosningar. For a list of municipal elections see is:Sveitarstjórnarkosningar á Íslandi. Haukur (talk) 12:42, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- here is a breakdown of the results. The numbers from Vestur-Skaftafellssýsla and Norður-Múlasýsla were still not in at this point. Haukur (talk) 13:00, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- Great, thanks for that. I can't read Icelandic, so could you tell me what the referendums were on (so I can add them to Template:Icelandic elections)? Also, does "Aukakosningar" mean by-election? I notice that the results in the Icelandic wikipedia are different to those quoted in Icelandic referendum, 1944... пﮟოьεԻ 57 13:08, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've managed to translate all of the stuff except "þegnskylduvinnu"... пﮟოьεԻ 57 13:17, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- Great, thanks for that. I can't read Icelandic, so could you tell me what the referendums were on (so I can add them to Template:Icelandic elections)? Also, does "Aukakosningar" mean by-election? I notice that the results in the Icelandic wikipedia are different to those quoted in Icelandic referendum, 1944... пﮟოьεԻ 57 13:08, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Yes, by-elections. One reason results may be superficially different is that sometimes the figures are quoted with the invalid and blank votes thrown out. As for the referenda; the 1908 one was on prohibition (which was fairly narrowly approved). The 1916 one was on mandatory community service (went down like a lead balloon). The 1933 one
(missing in this list)abolished prohibition (again fairly narrowly) and the others we've discussed. Haukur (talk) 13:21, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Yes, by-elections. One reason results may be superficially different is that sometimes the figures are quoted with the invalid and blank votes thrown out. As for the referenda; the 1908 one was on prohibition (which was fairly narrowly approved). The 1916 one was on mandatory community service (went down like a lead balloon). The 1933 one
- Community service - what was that? пﮟოьεԻ 57 13:25, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- Like conscription but without a military. It was intended for all males aged 17-25. Maybe there's a better English word. Haukur (talk) 13:27, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- No, I think community service is the right phrase to use (national service is generally a militaristic term in English) - this is how the same thing is called in Germany. Thanks a lot for your help. пﮟოьεԻ 57 13:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, that's fine, then. I think you've got almost all the national elections by now. I think there may have been a special election for the National Assembly, though. Haukur (talk) 13:46, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- Would that have been in 1848? Also, I agree with your removal of the non-elections from the template. If there was no vote, then there's no point in an article. пﮟოьεԻ 57 13:55, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know when it was and I'm unable to quickly find out. But there was one. Haukur (talk) 14:05, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- Would that have been in 1848? Also, I agree with your removal of the non-elections from the template. If there was no vote, then there's no point in an article. пﮟოьεԻ 57 13:55, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, that's fine, then. I think you've got almost all the national elections by now. I think there may have been a special election for the National Assembly, though. Haukur (talk) 13:46, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:43, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, I deleted it. Haukur (talk) 07:07, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Icelandic saga film
I saw a short clip a while back of what looked to be a pretty recent Icelandic saga film. It was of a man who fought several people with a spear in open terrain in Iceland. The sequence was very fluid, and almost Asian in its choreography. Do you know which saga/film it was? -- Nidator 11:06, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but I'm afraid I don't! But then I'm not really a movie buff. Might try asking at the ice-project or our Misplaced Pages. Haukur (talk) 16:11, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Request for comment on main page deletion incident
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Heads-up
Hiya, it looks like you weren't formally notified of this, and it's not a huge deal, but I wanted to make you aware that your name has come up (briefly) at a recent ArbCom case. Whether or not you participate is entirely up to you, but if you'd like to follow along: (and related evidence page). FYI, --Elonka 18:19, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Template:PD-old-70
I noticed that a while ago you changed it to say that there were other requirements for United States public domain, besides being more than 70 years past the Author's death. According to Cornell's Copyright expiration page there are no other requirements: unpublished works "from authors who died before 1938" are public domain in the U.S. as of 1 January 2008. What additional requirements were you referring to? I can't find any. Unless you can find a reputable legal source that contradicts or elaborates on the Cornell site I think the template should be altered to say that works by an author who died 70 years ago or more are in the public domain in the U.S. but may not be in other countries. --TexasDex ★ 02:15, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- The key word there is 'unpublished'. Very few of the works relevant to us are unpublished. Haukur (talk) 08:27, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- If I may chime in here... in Switzerland, where I live, as well as in Germany and many other countries, copyright expires clearly 70 years after the author's death if the work was published when the author lived. The only problematic works here are unpublished ones: the publishers of those may gain an extra protection in some countries after the first publication (editio princeps, 25 years in Germany). I.e. if an archive publishes something by an author even dead since several hundred years for the first time, it may have editio princeps rights, but everything already published by an author who died in 1937 or earlier is completely free in continental Europe. As it seems here, it may be the other way round in the USA? Gestumblindi (talk) 18:58, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, it's like that in most of Europe. The US has more complicated rules, check the chart above. Publication years are important and copyright registration can come into play. Haukur (talk) 19:06, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
- AFAIK, Switzerland does not have the publication right. Where in SR 231.1 is it? Lupo 19:24, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
- You are right, Switzerland doesn't have it. Germany, however, does. I was talking about European countries in general and included Germany with its editio princeps law as an example. My point was the clear freeness of everything published at the lifetime of an author who died more then 70 years ago in most of Europe which makes it seem ironic that in some cases it is the opposite in the US: under editio princeps, a work by an author who died more than 70 years ago but which is for the first time published now may be protected in e.g. Germany for 25 years, but not protected in the USA exactly because it was not published when the author lived, but it could be protected in the USA if it were published then (between 1923 and 1937), and not protected in Germany. ;-) Gestumblindi (talk) 19:46, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Could you please remove a useless redirect
Hi Haukur, I have discovered a redirect which probably is a typo of mine: Uppland Runic Inscription 195. Could you, please, delete it?--Berig (talk) 10:56, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- Sure thing! Haukur (talk) 14:02, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks!--Berig (talk) 14:28, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
please show me where
There is a word "definition" on the page WP:CONSENSUS?--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 14:42, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- I never said there'd be one. Haukur (talk) 14:43, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- I don't accept non-English communication in an English talk page. Its uncivil, and seeks to score a point. In English Mu is the sound made by cows, pronounced Moooooo.--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 15:04, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks!
...for fixing my spelling! --Stephan Schulz (talk) 18:15, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
war / armed conflict
Hi.
I don't think "armed conflict," which became a phrase during the twentieth century, need be cast into old descriptions of ancient wars...If you have a better notion, please tell me...and I'll think myself and try to remember what the classical English word for "a series of skirmishes" was...--VKokielov (talk) 04:27, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
- I don't mind the anachronism but in any case it's "major war" that I thought sounded off, "war" by itself wouldn't be too bad. Haukur (talk) 09:24, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, well, it used to be "major armed conflict..." --VKokielov (talk) 16:46, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Peer review/Walter de Coventre/archive1
Hi there. I listed Walter de Coventre for review, and since you have FA experience in medieval articles I thought you may not be totally unwilling to say one thing or another. I appreciate the content may not be very interesting to you, but no suggestion would be unwelcome. All the best, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 10:04, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Unnotified deletion
Hi Haukur, could you check out who deleted Image:Hrolfr Kraki sows the seeds of the fyris wolds.jpg without leaving any explanation?--Berig (talk) 14:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- Do you mean Image:Hrolfr kraki sows the seeds of the fyris wolds.jpg (small k in Kraki) which you uploaded in January? I can't see any deletions of these images, maybe I'm missing something. Haukur (talk) 15:03, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- Duh! Sometimes, I am stupid. Someone had vandalised the page, so that it looked as if the image had been deleted.--Berig (talk) 15:10, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, no problem :) Should I delete the duplicate? Haukur (talk) 15:20, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, please go ahead! :)--Berig (talk) 15:21, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Why?
In your recent reversion on NC why in the world would someone of your experience leave a cryptic summary, instead of, oh, i dunno, using the revert function to label it appropriately, or using undo to do so while adding your sarcasm?
--Jerzy•t 16:10, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- I don't quite follow. I think the revert function is mostly intended for vandalism and I wasn't reverting vandalism, I was reverting a change I didn't understand and didn't see the author justify. That's why I asked: Why? Was that too terse? Haukur (talk) 16:18, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, I need your help..on a few things.
Hello. I'm Dane. I think I need your assistance as both an Admin, and a Legendary Saga expert.
Uh, for the Saga's I created a page for Egil One-Hand and Asmund Berserkers-Slayer, neither of which is finished and I also plan to update the information on the Egils saga einhenda ok Ásmundar berserkjabana, as there is not much at the moment. My problem is outside of the translated texts, there is nearly nothing on the Saga or the manuscript in English, no notable 3rd party sources that expand upon the importance of nobility of the text it self. Also the Saga's page mentions, "Asmund is also known as Gnodar-Asmund and under this name he is mentioned in various other sagas. His foster-father was Illugi, Foster-Son of Grid." This information is nowhere listed in the story I have about Egil and Asmund, and perhaps you chould steer me towards sagas in which include Gnodar-Asmund, and explain how he is the same person as Asmund Beserkers-Slayer.
I am hoping to add information on other Legendary Saga's as well, but I still am very new to Misplaced Pages and trying to get a handle on things...
Which where my other issue comes into play. For my Egil One-Hand page, I uploaded an image I drew a little while ago. It's nothing special, but i felt having an image was nice for the page and you got to see his Sword-Arm. However there is currently a vote to remove it... I wouldn't have too much of a problem with that, except that the person trying to remove I feel is doing it for biased reasons towards me. An Administrator called Future Perfect, or Fut.Per or somethingFut.Perf.. He was invovled in a recent altercation with me and my friends in which we were banned as sock-puppets prior to the use of a checkuser (Future Perfect was more willing to believe the word of someone who was a sock puppet and had a vendetta against my friends, then us.)
I feel Future Perfect is out to get me. He has twice removed the image of Egil One-Hand without posting anything in the discussion page, and only when i made a post on his talk page did he respond, in which he seemed very condescending. Further more, Future Perfect was easily led by a sock-puppet using member to get me and my innocent friends blocked. I am new here I don't know how things work, but I feel very wronged and am very upset. I attempted to confront him on his talk page about it, and all he did was call me a troll. Which I do not believe is the least bit true.
I don't know if there is anything that can be done, but he infuriates me, especially since he seems to have taken the attitude in which he wrongfully attacked me and my friends, and continued to use it against my image of Egil One-Hand.
On the image, I'd like you to look it at and decide if it should be there or not. I respect your opinion, and if you agree it just doesn't belong, I'll cheerfully remove it.
Link to the article for deletion discussion: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion/2008_March_13#Image:Egilonehand.jpg
And any extra help you can lend on the Legendary Saga's would be most useful. Sorry to be so overwhelming. ShieldDane (talk) 09:44, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- It's not a saga I've read, I'm afraid. I'll let you know if I come across something. Haukur (talk) 23:16, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
help with overdiagnosis page
I appreciate your help in editing the overdiagnosis page. I re-edited the placement of the figures to correspond with the text. Please let me know if there is a specific reason that the placement of these figures is inappropriate and I will change the text to properly reference the figures. Thanks again. I truly believe this is an important addition to the Misplaced Pages database. Hgwelch (talk) 12:47, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- Replied on your talk page. I suggest keeping any further discussion there for simplicity. Haukur (talk) 16:31, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Rindr
Hello Haukurth, in 2006 you commented on the naming on the Rindr/Rinda articles. I came across them because the article on tuple space links there, since it is also the name of a Linda version in Ruby. So I moved them around a bit, adding Rinda (disambiguation). Since you noted that there is a difference between the character of Rinda in the Eddas and Gesta Danorum, this might be chance to elaborate even further. Tierlieb (talk) 08:37, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Tafl
Thanks for the pointer on the Old Norse pronunciation of Tafl. I have found a credible source, and I corrected and sourced the IPA entry in the Tafl games article. I'll look for you the next time I have a question on Germanic languages (and I'm sure I will have many). Takk fyrir! Wilhelm meis (talk) 23:01, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Here's a question for you: I have seen "kvatrutafl" identified as backgammon. Is this accurate, and do you know any good sources of information about kvatrutafl (or about backgammon in medieval Iceland and Scandinavia)? Wilhelm meis (talk) 16:01, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, Sturlunga saga and, I think, the bishops' sagas mention kvátra or kvátrutafl. See also de:Kotra. That's about all I know. Haukur (talk) 10:31, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Greenland
Hi! Any details yet on Greenlandic self-government referendum, 2008? —Nightstallion 23:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
- Not really. Some progress on the oil question. Some chatter about full independence in 2016. No details on the referendum itself. The upcoming municipal election is getting most of the attention at the moment. Haukur (talk) 01:01, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! —Nightstallion 02:12, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Identity of ]
Hey Haukurth, I noticed that you have this image labeled as "Rán by Arthur Rackham (1911)". However, I have an Arthur Rackham collection (The Arthur Rackham Treasury, page 33. ISBN 0486446859) that includes this plate and that states that it is a depiction of one of Aesop's Fables and includes the caption The Shipwrecked Man and the Sea. Do you have a conflicting source? :bloodofox: (talk) 12:53, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
- This is actually quite typical and very annoying. My original upload/edit contained my source. Since then, the image has been uploaded to the Commons, without the source information, and deleted here, against policy and good sense. The Commons version doesn't have my original source information so it can only be accessed via my original deleted edits and since you can't see those the trail is cold. Anyway, this was my source: http://www.timelessmyths.com/norse/aesir.html I always wondered how the artist had come up with this idea of Rán. An excellent explanation is the one you have supplied - this wasn't meant to be Rán. I envy you for having that book, though :) Haukur (talk) 13:33, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
No problem, I thought I might just bring it up as I always liked the image and wondered what Rackham's basis for depicting Rán this way was myself. Well, now we both know! :bloodofox: (talk) 09:35, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Kari Solmundarson
Started a new article on this fellow. Feel free to expand as you see fit. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 18:42, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- Kudos on that! I'm afraid I've never been a big Njála expert, though. Such a byzantine story! :) Haukur (talk) 08:44, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Old Norwegian merge...
I put this in that discussion, but I would like your input on it and nobody seems to read or respond to that talk ATM.
I thought of something that might make more people happy than the proposed merge would. Why not cut Old Norse down a bit (it's extremely long, 40kb is long in wikipedia, this is 50% more than that) by making an article "Old Norse Languages" in which Old Icelandic, Old Norwegian, Old Danish, Old Swedish and Old Gnutish can be treated together, separate from the "common norse" but still handled together, so that the developments can be related to each other. That article should then heavily refer to the known documents of these languages, and should draw up the ways that differences and similarities line up, because they do not always follow that East Norse/West Norse split. A large amount of prose can be lifted straight from Old Norse and Old Norwegian can then be merged to the new article. This also allows for the handling of the "middle norwegian" and the other medieval norse languages because the term "Old Norse Languages" can arguably apply also to medieval forms whether they are called "Old" or "Middle" or whatever. Please let me know what you think. I personally feel that this would be a good compromise. I also think my proposed article will be a lot easier to write than the Old Norwegian article has shown itself to be (see that article's talk page for my critique) because the changes can be related to those of the other languages, everything can be put into it's true context.--AkselGerner (talk) 23:19, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
What do you think? Old Greenlandic can go straight in there too, if you want, but maybe you don't. Anyway I would like to apologize for bungling the whole thing by being too aggressive. I do believe my criticisms of Old Norwegian are justified though, and that handling all the languages in parallel will be easier, or at least more meaningful.--AkselGerner (talk) 23:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- It's not that you're wrong or rude or anything and maybe I'm just conservative but I don't quite like the title "Old Norse languages". That terminology is not something I'm familiar with and Misplaced Pages tries to stay with the most common terms and the most common ways of presenting information. When I search for "Old Norse languages" on Google Books I mostly get phrases like "Icelandic and Old Norse languages" which seems to parse as " and ] languages" rather than as " and ". Haukur (talk) 10:04, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- I understand, of course there's no such conventional term, but I think wiki is allowed to use normal english analytic semantics, old + norse + languages = old forms of descendants of Norse language, but of course, then it should be "norse", non-capitalized. The specific name is just a start-off suggestion. It is difficult to think of a different way to refer to old icelandic, old norwegian, old danish, old swedish etc. than by a plural/conglomerate/collective moniker like "old x languages", at least for me. I'm not trying to own this in any way, so if you have a better idea, feel free to say. Of course, a more conventional term would be "old scandinavian languages" or "old north-germanic languages" , but these then deviate from the already existing trend to favor the "Norse" naming, and aren't all that much clearer. As I said, it's not easy to come up with a common name for these languages, also because these languages are referred to specifically when wanting to take focus from the commonalities between the languages and put it in the differences, and also for placing them in a national context, again highlighting their differences.--AkselGerner (talk) 20:22, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Midvinterblot
Hi Haukur! Since you often edit Norse mythology articles and can read and write in Swedish, would you like to help out with verifying two minor translations on Talk:Midvinterblot? User:Redtigerxyz is evaluating it for GA and would like a second opinion on the translation of two statements.--Berig (talk) 07:38, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Greenland again
Hi! I found two links about the issue, but I'm not sure I understand what this actually means, so it'd be great if you could update the article with the events (and explain to me whether this means "more autonomy" or "independence" or "more autonomy and independence soon" or whatever). Thanks a lot! —Nightstallion 13:19, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- I think this is probably about as confusing to me as you. But if there's any particular Danish text you think might throw light on the matter I'll summarize it for you. Haukur (talk) 17:53, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- No, nothing in specific... Still, could you update the article on the referendum? I think you're less likely to confuse matters than I would be... —Nightstallion 18:36, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and a question about Iceland, if you should know something about that: How likely is it that Icelandic politicians will be pressured to join the EU in the next one or two years? I've read that due to the financial crisis, the public is now strongly supportive of EU entry... —Nightstallion 17:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- I would estimate them as very low. During the last election the Social Democratic Alliance was the only party to run on a pro-EU platform. This means that only 18 of the 63 members of parliament were elected on that basis. I think the current parliament doesn't believe that it has a mandate to apply for EU membership. We would really need new elections first. Those aren't scheduled until 2011. Conceivably one of the other parties might make EU membership a part of their platform in those elections but due to the history and structure of the Icelandic party system it's hard to see which one. I would be inclined to rule out the Left-Green Movement. The Independence Party has, of late, some pro-EU elements but also very strong anti-EU elements. Conceivably the party might split over the issue. It has split before. Elections might conceivably be called before 2011 but I don't think it's likely.
- So, EU application within two years? Not likely at all. Within 10 years? Possibly. Would it be approved in a referendum? Possibly, but it could certainly go either way. Haukur (talk) 17:53, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- Mh. Strange, I've heard that there's *strong* public support now, so I'd expect it to become an election issue the next time... Thanks for your analysis! —Nightstallion 18:36, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- Recent polls have shown an upswing in public support for it. It's been an election issue for more than a decade now, it may be an important election issue next time. Haukur (talk) 19:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- nods Thanks for the info! —Nightstallion 09:09, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- Recent polls have shown an upswing in public support for it. It's been an election issue for more than a decade now, it may be an important election issue next time. Haukur (talk) 19:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- Mh. Strange, I've heard that there's *strong* public support now, so I'd expect it to become an election issue the next time... Thanks for your analysis! —Nightstallion 18:36, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Election in Iceland
According to Republic NZ, the nominations have closed -- are there other candidates, or is this a non-election again? —Nightstallion 20:01, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- I thought potential nominees still had until the end of next week to turn in the signatures. But I'm not aware of any. Looks like it could indeed be a non-election. Haukur (talk) 23:02, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, the law is clear: http://www.althingi.is/lagas/nuna/1945036.html The elections are to take place on the last Saturday of June and candidates have until five weeks before that to turn in the paperwork. Haukur (talk) 23:08, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, okay. nods What is required to stand in the election, BTW? —Nightstallion 10:36, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- Someone's corrected him. —Nightstallion 10:42, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- You need to be at least 35 years old, be an Icelandic citizen and to have the recommendations (signatures) of at least 1500 people with the right to vote. Haukur (talk) 11:25, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- nods And, do you think anyone will file to contest the election? —Nightstallion 14:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- No, I don't think anyone will. Collecting the signatures is a non-trivial task and if anyone was doing it it would be generally known. Haukur (talk) 14:28, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. We'll definitely know in a week, either way. —Nightstallion 20:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- No, I don't think anyone will. Collecting the signatures is a non-trivial task and if anyone was doing it it would be generally known. Haukur (talk) 14:28, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- nods And, do you think anyone will file to contest the election? —Nightstallion 14:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- You need to be at least 35 years old, be an Icelandic citizen and to have the recommendations (signatures) of at least 1500 people with the right to vote. Haukur (talk) 11:25, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
So it's a non-election? —Nightstallion 08:17, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yes. That has now been confirmed. Ólafur Ragnar gets another term without an election. He will be inaugurated for his fourth term on August 1st. Haukur (talk) 09:25, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Hati Hróðitnisson to Hati Hróðvitnisson
Thanks for the catch! :) :bloodofox: (talk) 17:42, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Ancient Germanic studies/Runes
Hi Haukur. There are nowadays several editors who work on runic articles, so I have started a work group. I thought you might be interested in having a look at it.--Berig (talk) 17:27, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Burma Myanmar
Please see Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Nichalp's move of Burma to Myanmar and my posting to Talk:Myanmar#Move back to Burma, but I would rather an uninvolved administrator did it for me. Would you oblige to you if you would move the page back to Burma, as the clear position is that there was a WP:RM back in September 2007 (see Talk:Myanmar/Archive 3#Requested_move) to move the page to Burma, and several subsequent requested moves to move it back Myanmar failed (see Talk:Myanmar/Archive 4#October requested move and a couple on Talk:Myanmar/Archive 5). --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 12:55, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Wow, what a mess. I appreciate your confidence in me but I'm very reluctant to take action here, especially after User:Jonny-mt applied protection today. He says he's uninvolved and apparently he decided to freeze things down. Personally I agree with you that there was no consensus for a move. (Though I should note that I have no idea if the move to Burma last year had consensus either.) Haukur (talk) 13:36, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Luckily we do not have to decide whether there was a consensus last year or not because the closing admin made that call :-) But see Talk:Myanmar#Move back to Burma the problem is solved (for the time being) as user:Nichalp gave his/her consent to move it back, and so I did it. --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 18:10, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Something else entirely
We're about to switch to a new upload form at the Commons; details at commons:Commons:Village pump#New upload form. What do you think? We could use some help with translating the form's labels, error messages, and help texts to Danish and also to Icelandic. Can you help? Lupo 14:46, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- (P.S.: noticed recently that Björn has found its way into the Icelandic WP now... :-) Lupo 14:46, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, I saw Björn too. Articles in five languages now, not bad! The form looks like it will help encourage more informative uploads, something sorely needed. I'm sorry that I don't have the time commitment to Misplaced Pages at the moment to comment beyond that. Haukur (talk) 23:31, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Hnefatafl
I was discussing with Berig, and he told me that as far as he knew "raichi" - used to indicate impending victory like "check" in chess - was a word of Saami derivation and that the Viking Age Norse would have used a Norse equivalent. He didn't know what that would have been but he suggested you might. Any idea? Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 14:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but I'm afraid I have no idea. Haukur (talk) 14:51, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
TfD nomination of Template:Possibly-unfree-mural
Template:Possibly-unfree-mural has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. MBisanz 05:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
CfD nomination of Category:Possibly unfree murals
I have nominated Category:Possibly unfree murals (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. MBisanz 05:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Speedy
Hi Haukur, could you please delete these images that I have uploaded to commons: Image:U 1087, Lövsta.jpg, Image:U 217, Vallentuna.jpg, Image:U 582, Söderby-Karl.jpg, Image:U 698, Veckholm.jpg, Image:U 346, Frösunda.jpg, Image:U 366, Gådersta.jpg, Image:U 283, Torsåker.jpg, Image:U 363, Gådersta.jpg, Image:U 349, Odenslunda.jpg, Image:U 349, Odenslunda.jpg, Image:U 446, Droppsta.jpg, Image:U 270, Smedby.jpg.--Berig (talk) 15:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Dollfuß vs. Dollfuss
The move discussion at Talk:Engelbert Dollfuß could use some more input. Care to join in? Libary (talk) 23:58, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Icelandic alphabet x
Hello! I was reading the article on the Icelandic alphabet, and was puzzled when I saw the description of the sound-value of the letter 'X', which the article says is pronounced like the German 'ch'. Is this correct? I can't think of many Icelandic words with an X in them, except the rap group XXX Rottweiler, so I don't know that it's wrong, it just surprised me. Is it right, or has someone got confused with the IPA-symbol? If it is right, could you give me an example of an Icelandic word with a German 'ch'-sound in it? Curious.--Barend (talk) 09:41, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, that's a bad description, I changed it. Basically, people born before ca. 1950 tend to pronounce 'x' as while those born after ca. 1950 tend to pronounce it as . But there are certainly Icelandic words with that sound, e.g. dag (the accusative of dagur) if at the end of an utterance. And some people pronounce 'hv' as . Haukur (talk) 10:01, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello, I am wondering
what makes this image
not free? I took it and posted it on wikipedia years ago. If it sould not be here then we have more to discuss. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 13:43, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Einar Jónsson died in 1954 so his artworks will not be free in Europe until January 1 2025 under current law. A stupid and evil law but that's how it is. In the USA things are more complicated but it is quite likely to be under copyright there as well. Haukur (talk) 14:22, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for getting back to me. I will shortly remove my photographs from these articles too. Einar Jónsson , Ásmundur Sveinsson, Gunnfríður Jónsdóttir, Ríkarður Jónsson and any more that I can think of. Life is supposed to be interesting. Carptrash (talk) 15:29, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, one or two photos of sculptures on articles about the artists can be all right (and desirable) under fair use so I wouldn't necessarily remove them all. Haukur (talk) 15:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Here is a bit of irony - at least to me. The lead picture on the main page today, Chicago Board of Trade Building is a shot of mine that I posted to show the work of the American sculptors John Storrs and Alvin Meyer - articles i probably won't bother with now. Another copyright infringement. Over the past 6 months or so I removed, or had removed, dozens or more pictures of American (and now Icelandic) sculpture. Finally i get to the front page and then . ....... I guess that this is full contact living. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 16:22, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sculptures and buildings aren't necessarily handled the same and pictures can be non-free without necessarily infringing copyright in a particular instance (again, there is fair use). The laws on things like this differ quite a lot between countries, you may want to check out Panoramafreiheit for some useful information. I wouldn't necessarily recommend deleting everything. Haukur (talk) 16:32, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your insights, I have looked at the copyright laws already and just when I get more or less comfortable, another picture gets removed, this time Jonsson's Ingolfur Arnarson statue, and I'm back thinking, "Just get all my stuff off," because it is in a odd way rather painful when another one goes down. They are, these pictures, many of them, old friends and I might as well start a blog on Icelandic sculpture somewhere and post away to my heart;'s content. There are many photographers in Iceland who can fill in any temporary gap left by my shots going away. But I do appreciate your efforts and please do not see my rant as being in any way your doing. As you mentioned, this is the LAW, not just some editor's nit picking. Carptrash (talk) 18:08, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Þorgerðr Hölgabrúðr and Irpa - pronunciation
Hi, Haukur! I was thinking you'd be the right person to consult. A pronunciation guide for the Þorgerðr Hölgabrúðr and Irpa article was requested, could you perhaps aid me here? If you could give a pronunciation explanation for the two names, that would have been magnificent. I noticed the guide on your "Old Norse for Beginners" page, but I could not fully figure it out. Regards, –Skadinaujo T•C 00:36, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- What I got when trying myself was "θorgerðr hɔlgɑbru:ðr", does it look right? –Skadinaujo T•C 19:06, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, for the Old Norse pronunciation - though I suspect the g was already palatilized by then, i.e. θorcerðr. Well done. Haukur (talk) 22:52, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help! –Skadinaujo T•C 09:57, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, for the Old Norse pronunciation - though I suspect the g was already palatilized by then, i.e. θorcerðr. Well done. Haukur (talk) 22:52, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Quirky subjects
Sæll!
Ég leit inn og breytti greininni um Quirky subject lítillega, þ.e. ég tók aftur breytingar sannfærðs Chomskyista. Nennirðu að líta á þetta og spjallsíðuna og segja mér, hvort ég hafi gengið of langt, eða þá hvort ég hafi misskilið eitthvað? En pro-drop-hugtakið sýnist mér sambærilegt við að sjá drauga.
Kær kveðja Io (talk) 22:03, 27 June 2008 (UTC)