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Hi Hmib

Hi,

I am crazysword from the Nanjing Massacare discussion page. The comments you made were very sharp and entertaining.

I look forward to discuss more topics with you in the future.

Crazysword

Well, thank you! -Hmib 17:51, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Hey, I am curious about one thing. Your English composition is great and you are not a native speaker. Can you tell me how you stuided English? Thanks crazysword

The Four Classics

I've noticed the tremendous amount of time you've spent in discussions with Flowerofchivalry, and editing in general. I think you're doing a great job!! Wondering how exactly does one "win" a RfC...

Also, where do you live and what parts of China do you know best? I really want to improve articles on Chinese geography, specifically Shanghai and its districts (Zhabei, Pudong, etc.) but I need some help. Also wondering if you know about The Four Classics, as I'm trying to improve that article, but really don't know where to start (I've only read the xiyouji), thanks!!

CharlesZ 02:47, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

National Anthems

I got your message on the NA forum. I am working on My Belarusy now, and I could work with you and others on a cordination page for national anthems. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 21:02, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Re Catechism

See Human rights in the United States#Freedom of expression. In the US (where English Misplaced Pages operates) statements of racism are scandalous, but not illegal. Gazpacho 20:20, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Dingyuan

你好吗. You reverted my disambiguation of "Vulcan" in the Dingyuan article. Fair enough, but it now continues to direct to the disambiguation page which provides no link for the actual meaning. Can you write an article on Germany's Vulcan shipmaking plant, so this link will have a proper home to which it may point? Cheers! -- BDAbramson 03:10, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

entry on Wikipedia_talk:Japanese_Wikipedians'_notice_board

Hi - I moved your request to the bottom of the talk page - it might get more attention there. -- Rick Block (talk) 04:17, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up

Haha, thanks. I won't be on that much, but I'll try and keep up with the debate and enter some input of my own. CharlesZ 00:26, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

F0C

(sigh) yes, I suppose so, what's he accused of doing now? any proof ? etcetera, etc...

Thanks for letting me know. (Pedant)

3RR

Hi Hmib, FoC has reported you for a 3RR violation at Shintaro Ishihara. I haven't checked it out yet, but at first glance, there seems to have been a lot of reverting on both sides. Regarding your complaints to me about FoC, I'm having trouble determining where the fault lies. For example, you were reverting to a version that contained this: "Ishihara stated he respects the French culture but he just pointed out his ignorance about french mathematicians and his stupidity." This is POV, unencyclopedic, and insulting; and the English is poor and the punctuation is wrong (and not even consistent), so FoC was right to want to get rid of it. Could you briefly explain why you were reverting? SlimVirgin 20:16, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

SlimVirgin, please look at the talkpage and my RfC page also to find out what he is doing. I'm having very hard time to manage this strong POV pusher because he has never supplied any single sources throughout discussion (well, he did once for out of contect topic but not on main discussion).

--Flowerofchivalry 20:25, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Hmib, the diff you provided on my talk page shows two identical versions, so I don't know what you mean by saying it's an edit, not a revert. Anyway, I'm concerned more about the overall dispute, so just as an example, could you say why you were defending this edit, and whether you wrote it in the first place: "Ishihara stated he respects the French culture but he just pointed out his ignorance about french mathematicians and his stupidity." Many thanks, SlimVirgin 21:06, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

I've traced the origin of one of the disputed sentences myself. It seems the problem stems from multiple users whose first language is not English, who don't understand the need for sources, and who can't edit in accordance with WP:NPOV.

• At 20:18 July 23 Flowerofchivalry (talk · contribs) adds: "Ishihara stated he respects the French culture but he just pointed out the problem of French language." POV, poor English, unsourced, and meaningless: what's the problem with the French language that causes problems for mathematicians? (Some of the world's best mathematicians are French.)
• At 19:45, August 2, Pixeltoo (talk · contribs), who seems to be French, changes it to: "Ishihara stated he respects the French culture but he just pointed out his ignorance about french mathematicians and his stupidity." POV, poor English, unencyclopedic, insulting, unsourced.
• At 00:02, August 11, 213.22.56.123 (talk · contribs) changes it to: "Ishihara then apologized by stating his apreciation for the French culture." Unsourced and contains a spelling mistake (possibly just a typo).
• At 02:15, August 17, User:Hmib reverts to: "Ishihara stated he respects the French culture but he just pointed out his ignorance about french mathematicians and his stupidity." See above.

Perhaps the dispute between FoC and Hmib could be reduced if you were both to supply sources for every edit that's likely to be challenged. Also, please bear in mind that this is the English Misplaced Pages, and edits must conform to a minimal standard of English. This is especially true when the edits are contentious and are leading to weeks-long edit wars. I'm leaving this on FoC's page too. SlimVirgin 21:49, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the, uh, Blade Runner award! Gosh, I wonder what I did to deserve it... :D -Hmib 00:52, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome. You're just cool. There are lots of uncool people and you had a little * on your page that said "feel free" and I was feeling playful, so now you're the future of humankind, which you are anyway, so it's kinda fitting. Don't hate the Japanese though, they make good anime. They make dreadful anime as well, but on the whole the good anime makes up for it  :) --noösfractal 06:20, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Nanjing Safety Zone

Hmib, could you respond on Talk:Nanjing_Safety_Zone#Sources about the need for sources, please? Hopefully, with sources, the dispute may come to an end. Many thanks, SlimVirgin 01:40, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Gerbillus taxoboxes

A few of the Gerbillus articles included several extra levels that I chose to drop. Feel free to reinstall them if you see fit. There were about 60 unwikified species articles of members of this genus added and I'm trying to make them all look presentable. Meanwhile I'm currently working on trying to make the muroid rodents category smaller (it was approaching 200 articles) by adding subcategories.

The main issue I had with some of the intermediate taxonomy is twofold. First, Myomorpha is a largely outdated subordinal designation. I know McKenna and Bell (1997) use it, but they are among the few relatively modern texts to do so. Many molecular studies strongly dispute the notion of a clade uniting dormice with the myodonts. Hystricognathi vs. Sciurognathi needs revising, but, ignoring the status of gundis, is overall a more accepted scheme. The taxonomy on our rodent page needs work, but there's no indication that the consensus of wikipedia's authors is to accept Myomorpha as a legitimate suborder. Secondly, although I would prefer an overall mammal taxonomy that includes a subclass Theria and infraclass Eutheria over the taxonomy on the current mammal page, it's a battle I've fought and lost. For whatever reason, wikipedia authors have decided to elevate Eutheria to the level of subclass.

Overall these intermediate higher-level taxonomic ranks are not particularly important to a species-level article. Some have argued they complicate it needlessly. Usually I don't take any action one way or another, but in this case I think they open up debates that should take place at higher taxon articles such as rodent, mammal, or mammal taxonomy. And I disagree with Myomorpha as a suborder of rodents. Anyway, to my knowledge there are no formal rules on it and if you'd like to revert those deletions, I'd be happy to comply. --Aranae 00:23, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

User categorization

Greetings, Miborovsky! Please accept this message as an invitation to categorize your user page in the category Category:Wikipedians in Washington and removing your name from the Misplaced Pages:Wikipedians/Washington page. The page will be deleted when all users have been removed. Even if you do not wish to be placed in a category, could you take a moment to remove your name from the Misplaced Pages:Wikipedians/Washington page? Thanks!!

To add your name to the category, please use the tag ] to ensure proper sorting.

For more information, please see Misplaced Pages:User categorisation and Category:Wikipedians by location. -- Roby Wayne 06:56, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

RE: Heya

Did a search on web and found your site with certain issues I am rather hungry of hearing views of. Slivester 11:40, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Nandesuka's RfA

Thanks for supporting my RfA. I'll work hard to try to live up to the confidence you're showing in me. Nandesuka 01:02, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

How did you change your username?

Hi,how did you change your username?Tdxiang 04:22, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Please?

Remember this? Hi,since you were from Fuhua,maybe you could help edit the Fuhua Primary School article...haha...thanks...:DTdxiang 04:28, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

If it's not schoolcruft...then it is OK lah...

Hello,if Fuhua Primary is not schoolcruft,then it is alright.--Tdxiang 10:15, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

May the Force be With You

I have dropped by and saw the good work you have done in Nanking Safety Zone and Nanking Massacre talk page, wielding off massive invasions from the Darker side and getting many helpers too...(pat, pat) Continue the good work. I will go now. I will come back though as an anon now and then. May the Force be with You. Mandel 18:07, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

"Created"

Please see Talk:Emperor Wu of Han and discuss. Thanks. --Nlu 07:49, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Homosexuality in Singapore

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. --Cool Cat 01:44, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Woops fired at wrong person. Sry. --Cool Cat 01:46, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Ok I placed the issue on ANB at should be settled. It is ridiclous for what user:Groyn88 is doing --Cool Cat 01:52, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Re: vandalism

What are you going on about? I didn't vandalise a single page. I would appreciate it if you could provide evidence of me vandalising. Otherwise, it's called false accusation. --Miborovsky 01:44, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

OK you just accused me further. I don't want to escalate this, but you are forcing my hand. --Miborovsky 01:46, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Why don't you spend some time to read the discussion before accusing me? HUH? See the talkpage and the history. --Miborovsky 01:47, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Good. I truly hope that was just an honest mistake. --Miborovsky 01:49, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

I just innitialy saw someone deleteing pages and pages of stuff. We have hightened level of vandalism on lots of articles. I sincerely am sorry for all of this, I issued your party a warning and issued a notice to ANB. --Cool Cat 01:57, 23 September 2005 (UTC)