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List of Korean war veterans

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Where did "potentially over 100,000 entries" come from?" Juzhong (talk) 04:26, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

According to Korean War, there were over 1 million combatants on either side.  Sandstein  07:14, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Of whom 10% were notable —Preceding unsigned comment added by Juzhong (talk • contribs) 07:23, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Potentially so, as many said in Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of Korean War veterans (2nd nomination).  Sandstein  07:27, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Like who? Juzhong (talk) 08:58, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I trust that you are able to read that discussion for yourself.  Sandstein  09:50, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I just don't trust that you are. Juzhong (talk) 10:07, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

It's clear who said these things in the AfD Juzhong. Please put your civility hat back on and stop attacking Sandstein for simply doing his admin task and closing that AfD as a Delete by Concensus.--VS 11:15, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

How about you answer the question, if it's so easy? Juzhong (talk) 16:56, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

• This editor has a history of abusive comments even after a one day cooling off period. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.164.249.129 (talk) 21:10, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

  Now now, I'm being very patient, still hoping for an answer. Juzhong (talk) 09:12, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Please take this discussion elsewhere. I've said what I think needs to be said.  Sandstein  11:31, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try the help desk, maybe they can clarify things for me. Juzhong (talk) 17:59, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

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Please see Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Sandstein. Juzhong (talk) 11:57, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

A user conduct RFC requires that at least two users have tried and failed to solve a dispute with another user. Your request is currently malformed and not likely to be accepted. If you have a disagreement with an AfD closure, Juzhong, please open a deletion review. GlassCobra 12:18, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

• I add my concurrence to the above comment by GlassCobra. The proper place for this is WP:DRV.--VS 12:41, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK nomination

Hi. I've nominated Tirggel, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page (on or around Christmas day) as part of Misplaced Pages:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article here, where you can improve it if you see fit. Thanks --Bruce1ee 10:06, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much!  Sandstein  10:23, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Election Dec 10

Congrats. I'm glad we had the article on the date of the election! -- User:Docu

Thanks!  Sandstein  20:56, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Re:Kosovo stubs

The reason for the protection was that consensus was reached not to have the category as a subtype of Cat:Serbia stubs. There had been considerable edit-warring on both the templates concerned and on a large number of the articles using the templates, which - with templates used on large numbers of articles - is hardly desirable. It wasn't a case of WP:PREFER - I've personally no particular interest in whether it's a subtype of the Serbia category or not, other than to prevent the edit-warring which occured before and is likely to occur again. Russavia knows this - he was party to at least some of the discussions which ended with the decision to keep the Kosovo categories separate. Grutness...wha? 20:23, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Do you think the protection is still needed? The history of the Kosovo stub template shows no editwarring after its unprotection. Also, could you point me to the discussions to which you refer?

Well, the fact that Russavia's asking for changes which were soundly opposed at the time of the earlier discussions which he took part in isn't a promising sign. If it was someone else who was suggesting it, I'd be somewhat concerned, but his previous edits and discussion on this and similar subjects have often been a little fractious, to say the least. As to where the discussions are, they're all over the place, but some that have some relevance can be found at Misplaced Pages:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2007/September/2#.7B.7BVojvodina-stub.7D.7D_.2F_Cat:Vojvodina_stubs, Misplaced Pages:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2008/August/28, Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals/Archive/February_2008#Kosovo_stubs, Misplaced Pages:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2008/February/7#.7B.7BKosova-geo-stub.7D.7D. Others are buried somewhere in the archives of various WP:WSS pages, so may take some finding. Some indications of the problem can be seen at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Kosovo, too.

Whether the edit warring would move to the category is difficult to tell - once the template was protected it seems to have moved to individual articles (havee a look at the history of Šar_Mountains from October, for an example). The main problem is that edit-warring on one article, though a problem, is simply fixed. Edit-warring on a whole category, rthough, can be far more tricky to resolve. Grutness...wha? 00:37, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

12-13-08

Do you know how to create a message box which appears when you edit the page? MHLU 20:45, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry to say that I don't. WP:HD may help you here.  Sandstein  20:55, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Statement at RFArb page

Although a community discussion will be necessary on the matter at some point, I don't see any harm in enacting your suggestion accordingly. Ncmvocalist (talk) 04:35, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Romano-Dacis and Holocaust denial on AN/I

Hi. You have earlier replied to my post regarding User:Romano-Dacis and his repetitive edits. Your reply was: "I see no Holocaust denial as such here, just the sadly usual Eastern European nationalist bickering over who was responsible for which massacre. That is a content dispute and does not belong on this messageboard. Please pursue dispute resolution and use the article talkpage instead of this space."

With all due respect, I think you missed the point. To begin with, I find it quite offensive that you would attribute this to "Eastern European nationalist bickering" - it is ill-informed and prejudiced. As far as I can see, Romano-Dacis is the same nationality as I (Romanian). His whitewash edits support a nationalist POV that I should therefore be "identifying with" were I some sort of nationalist. The supposed POV I endorse is the one present in the Wiesel Commission Report (in turn based on countless reliable historical sources). The Commission was set up by the Romanian state, and its conclusions, although they have formed the basis of legislation in Romania, naturally upset supporters of fringe nationalist opinions. To give you the full picture: if those supporters of fringe nationalist opinions would express themselves in their home country with the sort of absurdities Romano-Dacis has been writing down over here, they would risk getting fined. They do equate to a denial of the Holocaust - the Holocaust for which Romania was responsible; they do so by minimizing the number of Jews and Romani people killed by the Romanian state, and by justifying their murders with the sinister claim that those killed were enemies of the Romanian state. Dahn (talk) 08:31, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I apologise if I indeed missed the point and I assure you that I have zero sympathies for Holocaust deniers. That being said, what you describe remains a content dispute for which the administrators' noticeboard is not the right place. We have two other noticeboards dedicated to such issues: WP:POVN and WP:CCN.  Sandstein  11:28, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

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Kurt Weber

Per your comment as you voted against Kurt, you may be interested in =this discussion. Daniel Case (talk) 00:52, 15 December 2008 (UTC)