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Deletation of article

Problems with neutrality of article

Hi! You helped me out twice before and I thought that you could again. If you have other things to do I won't bother you again.

I objected to the article 'Persian people' because it was biased, unfair and Contained factually wrong statements. You told me to share my concerns on the discussion page of the article and include a token that stated that the neutrality of the article was disputed. I have done all of that, where do I go from here? How can I get the article deleted and replaced with the correct one that was in place before they change it?

Thanks agains

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Tropical Storm Erick (2007)

I have nominated Tropical Storm Erick (2007) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 13:27, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

• I added 16 links. Parse them and add the info. There should be no problem now. Ottava Rima (talk) 18:27, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

  Email. Ottava Rima (talk) 16:48, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Given that the discussion is over notability, which some people agree with, yes, it certainly should stay up. That's hardly pushing my POV. It's putting a template up while this discussion is ongoing. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:12, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Message

50 AWB tasks reassigned (to you)

The U.S. State article lists in the form "List of x-related topics" (where x is the name of a state) have been changed to "Index of x-related topics". The links in the encyclopedia need to be updated.

For each state AWB needs to be used to make a list of "what links here" specifying "List of x-related topics". Then filter down the list to the article, portal, and wikipedia namespaces.

Then set the search/replace feature to find "List of x-related topics" and replace it with "Index of x-related articles".

If there's a way to integrate these tasks so as to do fewer runs (50 is a lot), more power to ya!  :) Like copying the search/replace string and typing in the 50 state names into them all at once in the search/replace section.

If you have questions, comments, problems, etc., please chat me up on my talk page.

The Transhumanist    04:57, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll be able to help if you need any assistance. –Juliancolton |  14:43, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Looking at his contributions shows that Robert Skyhawk hasn't been around for over a month. We definitely need somebody else to do these. I guess that means you.  :)

The make list steps of all the tasks can be combined (by entering all the pagenames and clicking "make list" after each entry). That way, you only have to use the list filter once. Likewise, the search/replace strings for each link to be replaced should all be entered before you press "start". By setting AWB up in this way, you should be able to do all 50 states in one pass.

Good luck.

Have fun.

And if you learn any shortcuts or better ways of doing this, please let me know!

The Transhumanist    20:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Alright, got it (for the most part). There is one part that I don't quite understand, however:

"For each state AWB needs to be used to make a list of "what links here" specifying "List of x-related topics". Then filter down the list to the article, portal, and wikipedia namespaces."

Could you explain this further? Thanks. –Juliancolton |  20:27, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Since the time I wrote that, I figured out how to combine the tasks into a single pass on AWB.

The goal of the task is to change the links "List of Alabama-related topics", "List of Arkansas-related topics", etc. (wherever they appear in pages in the article, portal, and wikipedia namespaces) to "Index of Alabama-related articles", "Index of Arkansas-related articles", etc.

So, start AWB and use the make list feature. From the selection of list types available, click "What links here". Then in the input box, type "List of Alabama-related topics" (without the quotation marks). Then click "make list" or press Enter.

Then before you do anything else, repeat the above step for the remaining states. ("List of Alaska-related topics", "List of Arkansas-related topics", etc.) The list you are making will grow each time. (Tip: instead of typing the whole thing in each time, you can paste "List of -related topics" and fill in the state name).

When you are done building the list, you need to filter it. At the bottom of the make list section is the filter feature. Click on it, which should bring up the filter window. It lets you choose which namespaces you want included or excluded from the list you just made. Select the namespaces you want to keep (main, portal, and wikipedia), and then activate the filter. It will remove all unwanted pages from the page list.

When you are done filtering the list, then you need to set up the search/replaces. Enter in all 50 of them into the search/replace feature of AWB.

Once those are entered, you are ready to rock and roll. Press "Start".

Good luck. Have fun.

Let me know if you need further assistance.

The Transhumanist    21:12, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Important: I just remembered, there's a problem with Georgia (because of the country by that name). You'll need to use "List of Georgia (U.S. state)-related topics" and "Index of Georgia (U.S. state)-related articles". Sorry I forgot about that. That could have been disastrous. The Transhumanist    21:58, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I already noticed that. :) –Juliancolton |  22:06, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

50 AWB Tasks Julian? Good luck! I'm around if you need my help! :) The Helpful One 13:24, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Phoenix Film Critics Society

Hi. I noted that this article was deleted on April 12 due to "no sources to indicate this organization meets the notability requirements of WP:ORG)". I hadn't looked at that page in a while and didn't realize it had a PROD tag. Is it possible to get a copy of that article so that I can source and fix it. There are pages for the various awards categories related to it, which are used in a number of articles and would like to get this back and sourced. Thanks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:42, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to be gone for a few days, so if you happen to be able to retrieve it for me, could you please just copy it to User:Wildhartlivie/Phoenix Critics? Thanks! Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:32, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Weather, 80 mph Winds Here

Hay, How are you doing today? How the weather thare? I'm getting ready for high winds. I live in Ridgecrest, California and there saying the west winds will increase to 50 mph with gusts up to 80 mph this afternoon and tonight. See Here.. I thought you be interested.

The last time this happened, We had no power for 2 days.--Michael (Talk) 16:26, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Significant wind gusts since 1:00 AM PDT Wednesday...

• Kern County, California peak wind gust
• Arvin ... ... ... ...West 44 mph.
• Bakersfield ... ... .Northwest 42 mph.
• California City... ..West 77 mph.
• Delano ... ... ... ..Northwest 46 mph.
• Maricopa ... ... ... West 50 mph.
• McFarland... ... ... Northwest 44 mph.
• Ridgecrest... ... ...West 73 mph.
• Shafter... ... ... ..Northwest 43 mph.
• Taft ... ... ... ..... Northwest 42 mph.
• Tehachapi... ... ... West 85 mph.
• Wasco... ... ... ... Northwest 35 mph.

--Michael (Talk) 09:18, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Dance Bear-a-Thon

ProfessorLlama (talk) 18:14, 14 April 2009 (UTC)Okay, awesome. Yes, if you wouldn't mind sending me the article, that would be great. Question, though: where should I go from there? Shall I simply review it and try to edit it based on Misplaced Pages standards, and then repost? Should I contact this other administrator? But, either way, I would like a copy, so thank you very much. And thanks for your hasty reply!  : )

Late Thank You!

Took me a couple of days to notice, but... thanks for the new page watcher permissions!  :) Lychosis /C 19:26, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

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Perhaps You Can Help...

A few of us at WP:TVS are having a problem with User:Theaveng adding copyrighted information to List of television stations in North America by media market‎. The information has to do with the Nielsen Television Markets. The user has been adding information from the FCC (which is exactly alike to the information Nielsen uses). To avoid being in violation of OTRS ticket #2008091610055854, the information is removed. For whatever reason User:Theaveng readds it. The user has been warned multiple times and had stopped, but started up again today. I reverted and issued a Warn4im warning. I brought this to User:Powergate92‎ (who has been involved in talk page discussions about this and who I thought was an admin) and he sugguested I bring it to an admin. Since you are the only one available at the moment, I bring this to your attention and ask what should be done. - NeutralHomer • Talk • April 14, 2009 @ 21:42

That is the one that was plastered on all the histories of all the stations in September of last year. This is one of the links where the OTRS ticket was used back in '08. - NeutralHomer • Talk • April 14, 2009 @ 21:52

Okie Dokie. Thanks...NeutralHomer • Talk • April 14, 2009 @ 22:05

Move request

I'm back to cleaning up the country adjectivals. Only got through about half of them the last time around.

Please move Chilean (disambiguation) to Chilean.

Adjectivals aren't names for the corresponding countries - they are a qualifier to signify that something else came from there. But some editors get country adjectivals confused with the countries they pertain to, thinking that they are synonymous when in fact they are not. This leads them to believe that the country is the primary topic for the adjectival, when it is the adjectival itself that anyone typing it in wants to see. If you wanted the country, you'd type in "Chile", not "Chilean".

I think many of the adjectivals got redirected to their corresponding countries before there were articles or disambig pages using the adjectival names (here's an example). It was better than having redlinks. Then for a few of those redirected terms, editors assumed the countries were their primary topics, and created separate disambiguation pages for them (with "disambiguation" in parentheses) rather than repurpose the redirect pages.

Then someone comes along and removes the adjectival disambiguation link from the country page, because to him or her it doesn't make sense to include it there (and that's true, it doesn't make sense).

Which orphans it. Like this one.

What a mess.

The Transhumanist    04:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

 Done –Juliancolton |  13:24, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Wow

I just have to say that you have an extraordinary beautiful name???? South Bay (talk) 05:45, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Chennaiyil Oru Mazhaikaalam

Why was the film deleted, it is in production!

Can you at least bring the article back, so it can be at least userfied!

Universal Hero (talk) 10:16, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. Universal Hero (talk) 14:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Decide!

Dear Julian, i inform you that Decide!, an article you recently deleted, was retrieved by User:Nightstallion, after I asked him to do so. I don't know exactly why the article was deleted and why I was not informed of the proposed deletion as the main editor of the article. Decide! was actually a political group that was a founding member of The People of Freedom party in March 2009 and his leader Capezzone is now spokesman of the new party. The group, as every notable political party in Italy or elsewhere (when I say notable I mean a party that had obtained non negligible electoral results or that was represented in legislative assemblies), deserves an article and that's why Nightstallion retrieved it. I hope you don't matter. --Checco (talk) 10:35, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Signature?

G'day,

Recently I got a post on my talk page asking what ClueBot was (from an I.P. Address), happily answered that, but I noticed when I went back to my talk page that the same I.P. Address had posted an obvious copy of your signature after their first comment with the word 'sucker' after it. Now i'm quite aware this is vandalism but I can't seem to find a Misplaced Pages policy on fraudulent signatures. Care to take a look and tell me what you would see as the appropriate action? (The whole thing is on my Talk page) Thanks heaps –Nathan 10:50, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• Additional: I.P. Now created inappropriate username and posted to my talk page. Do not know what else I can do now. (Info: I.P. is 86.30.6.215 username is 'Shitbot3' –Nathan 11:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Erick

I would say only two lines from that entire article are independent: the badly phrased quote from Pasch, and the line about Chantal's extratropical transition. Thegreatdr (talk) 13:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

A reminder

Just a gentle nudge - you offered during the (now closed) peer review to take a look at Jesus College Boat Club (Oxford) with a view to making it FA-worthy. No rush, and no obligation, but if you did find the time to stop by, I'd be very grateful. Regards, Bencherlite 13:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Very kind of you. I'm going to see what else I can do to improve it in the next couple of weeks, then perhaps try for FA. Thanks, Bencherlite 14:16, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

For clarity later

How did you clear up the edit stats on Bwilkins RfA talkpage? Did you just go to a tool and copy the results or did you put a template in correctly? I'd like to know so I can stop messing it up. Padillah (talk) 15:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

jan bryant bartell

this article was deleted..may I repost it? 76.83.34.243 (talk) 17:24, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Furmances

Nice call on changing that to an A1 - it's what I tried to do too, but you beat me to it. :-)--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:29, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Re:RfA

Hi Juliancolton, thanks for letting me know - shall I cross out the comment? - Fastily (talk) 20:05, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Your bot request

Hi Juliancolton I wanted to let you know that Misplaced Pages:Bots/Requests for approval/JCbot is labeled as needing your comment. Please visit the above link to reply to the requests. Thanks! --BAGBotTalk 23:36, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Special:DeletedContributions/Dylan620 and Special:Contributions/Dylan620

You might want to go through there; I just tagged a whole bunch of broken redirects that were to pages you recently deleted. :P --Dylan620 _{Efforts · Toolbox} 00:44, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Delete, please

File:CC-logo.svg ~ ωαdεstεr16_«talk 03:23, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Update on the Outline of knowledge WikiProject & Geography WikiProject (Country outlines workgroup) - 04/16/2009

Momentum in the development of the outlines is continuing to build, even though we haven't added any new outlines lately. Plenty of work is being done on the outlines we already have.

Keep up the good work everyone!

Inspiration!

Kudos go to Buaidh, who has dived head first into outline development, continuing improvement of the country outlines, and doing so vigorously. Take a look at his contribs. He has taken the initiative and has been expanding those outlines' design and coverage. Be sure to let him know what you think of his work!

Coming soon: the Super Huge Expansion (it will be really really big)

Excitement (mine at least) is building as we approach the Super Huge Expansion, during which notices will be placed on thousands of subject talk pages and their corresponding WikiProjects (see below concerning which ones). Though not all on the same day! - this will take place over a period of weeks or months, because it's best not to open the flood gates all at once.

The existing outlines should serve as strong examples for editors who wish to develop new outlines, and so we need to complete them as much as we can before we start to take this to the next level (in about 3 months). The rewrite of the outline article (the draft, which explains outlines in detail), and the guideline on outlines and outline development, also need to be completed before the transcendence begins. These will help guide the decisions and actions of editors, and reduce confusion.

Projected outline, at the OOK WikiProject page

What's next? Where is the Outline of knowledge headed?

Well, it will grow, to encompass all of human knowledge.

But, is there a plan?

YES!!!

Currently under construction on the Outline of knowledge WikiProject page is a version of the outline that will display links to all the outline pages currently in the encyclopedia proper, links to all outline drafts, and redlinks to all planned outline drafts.

You can help. Please place links to the remaining drafts in there (with complete pagenames so we can easily tell they are drafts). Once all the draft pages are placed, please look over the overall outline for gaps in coverage, and add missing subjects. I expect there are thousands of missing subjects extensive enough to benefit from being outlined. New subjects should be included as red draft links. Thank you.

But it's not just an editing task list...

During the upcoming "Super Huge Expansion" (mentioned above), the article talk page and WikiProject for each of the subjects listed on the projected outline will receive a notice requesting the creation and development of the outline page for that subject. Each notice will also explain how a subject's outline will integrate into the Outline of knowledge and into Misplaced Pages's navigation system as a whole.

See Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Outline of knowledge#Projected outline.

Topic lists

The nice thing about a reverse outline is that it turns up problems that exist in the publication being outlined, which provides opportunities to fix them. Since we get very little or no opposition to fixing problems even on sets of hundreds of pages, we've been plowing through them.

One of the biggest problems in Misplaced Pages that our work on the Outline of knowledge has uncovered so far is with the set of topics lists. Their titles, in the forms "List of x topics" and "List of x-related topics" are ambiguous, and they are not the most common terms for describing their content. See WP:COMMONNAME. To make matters worse, the set is divided between 2 competing types/sets of pages: alphabetical indexes, and outlines.

In an effort to sort out this mess, the indexes are being renamed, and the outlines are being reformatted and moved, or merged, into the Outline of knowledge.

So far, almost 300 topic lists have been renamed to indexes. Nobody has objected to the names chosen, but one editor has expressed reservation on the approach - he was concerned it would cause confusion by having 2 title standards in place at the same time for these. Though he himself was not confused, nor did he object to the titles. And nobody else has expressed confusion or dissatisfaction with the new titles either. It has been over 2 weeks since the renaming has begun, and since no confusion seems to have been caused, and since there is no opposition to the new names, I plan to continue with the renaming.

Also, one topic list has been merged into its corresponding outline so far: List of transport topics was merged into Outline of transport. It turned out very good. List of cell biology topics is currently being merged into Outline of cell biology (see the link dump in hidden comments at the end of the outline).

I'm not sure how many lists have "topics" in their titles, but Google turned up 788, and these appear to include the ones that have already been renamed to indexes. Subtracting those renamed so far, there are about 500 more to go.

Watching tips

I thought you might want to compare notes on the methods we use to watch over the outlines. Here's how I keep an eye on things...

My watchlist had so many thousands of articles in it that I finally just deleted them all. Now I have it set so that I have to manually add pages to be watched, and I use it only to watch trouble spots and collaborations I'm participating in.

Because I like to watch specific sets of pages at a time, I use "Related changes" on list pages. That way the results are not watered down with edits from pages I'm not immediately concerned with.

I always use WP:POP and Related changes together. With POP installed, you go to a link list, like User:Buaidh/Country outlines of the Americas, then click on "Related changes" in the toolbox menu, and then hover the mouse cursor over the diff and hist links so you can look at those without clicking on them.

It's pretty fast.

The technique turns Misplaced Pages's list system into a crystal ball.

Update Scanner

Penubag recommends Update Scanner, which is a Firefox add-on that periodically scans pages and pings you when a change is detected. You can even set its level of sensitivity for each scanned page (e.g., "ignore changes of 100 words or less").

I'd use it, but I don't have a computer.  :(

See also WP:OTS for more power tools and techniques, and User:Penubag/optimum toolsets for some more nice addons, that do a variety of things.

I'm always looking for new power tools and power skills, so if you know of any, please share (let me know)!

The Transhumanist    04:55, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Jamaica–Serbia relations

Hi Julian. Nothing to change in the above AfD. Just a head's up - after this discussion we are looking to ensure AfD discussions go for seven days. SNOW closes are no longer seen as appropriate. Early closes should follow the guidelines in WP:Speedy keep or WP:Speedy delete. Regards SilkTork * 07:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, I felt that since consensus had been clearly established, IAR was applicable. I am quite astonished that a rule discouraging SNOW closes has been set, but that's bureaucracy for ya. :) Thanks, –Juliancolton |  14:58, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

I know what you're saying! But people feel that not everyone is on Wiki every day, so a full 7 days (therefore including a weekend) is really needed for a full consensus. SNOW was designed to cut through "pointless" bureaucracy, but the new rule actually makes sense so SNOW doesn't apply to AfDs. There's going to be a few people who are not aware of the new situation, so there'll be more SNOW closes over the next few days. They are not worth over-turning, but the closers should be made aware that the situation has changed. SilkTork * 17:11, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I'll keep that in mind. Cheers, –Juliancolton |  17:24, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Thomas R. Vozzella

Hello, I would be very happy to have the article deleted. This has been one of the worst experiences ever. I think my colleague is a very worthwhile musician, and has given and excelled in the church/choral world. Can you just delete it and end the humiliation of the constant badgering. Don't ruin him, because of my inability to write the Misplaced Pages way. I have tried most of the morning to blank the page, etc. and people keep putting it back. I have followed every suggestion, made every change as I understood them, and it has become more of an unpleasant experience. Thanks, and again, just delete it. MusicTex (talk) 16:15, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Terrillja _talk 18:30, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

RfA Thankspam

Thanks to everyone who took the time and trouble to take part in my RfA whether support, oppose or neutral. All comments are valued and will be considered carefully in the coming weeks. Feel free to add more advice on my talk page if you think I need it. SpinningSpark 22:12, 16 April 2009 (UTC) In case you're wondering, the image is a smiley, just a little more aesthetic, but not as serious as the Mona Lisa

Merge and transwiki

Hi. On Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Unification Church political views you closed it by saying "Merge and transwiki." I was the one who nominated it for deletion. How is this going to happen? Much of the material is already on Wikiquote. Steve Dufour (talk) 02:21, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to start on this by moving the quotes to Wikiquote.Steve Dufour (talk) 15:04, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikiprojects in signature

Hi, am I right in thinking that your customized signature used to link to a Wikiproject? If so, was there a reason you stopped doing so? Cheers. — R 03:20, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

OK, it's nothing important. I was considering doing a similar thing, I thought you did it once, and maybe someone told you to remove it or something. I'm not going to be around forever and I'm concerned about the future of WP:MJJ without me. Not that I'm trying to be big headed. We have a healthy number of helpers, but only have 3-4 editors (including myself) that can write articles to GA standard. I was hoping to recruit more people by highlighting the project, we had a few more editors join when Jackson announced his concerts. — R 15:56, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Another deletion

Can you delete File:Assemblyman Jim Tedisco (R-NY).jpg? It's a redundant of another file on Commons (both taken from this and agreed upon for deletion). ~ ωαdεstεr16_«talk 11:37, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

My request

Thanks for the very prompt response to request for rollback.--Sabrebd (talk) 14:17, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Do not read this one - The Hunt - Outline of knowledge WikiProject - 04/17/2009

While surveying libraries, their outline-related resources, and our coverage of them, I came across something funny...

What subclass is the Bible in the Library of Congress Classification?

Do you think they'd like this one at WP:DYK?

(Nope. They didn't.)     :)

Libraries

For months, I've been sitting at a terminal in one of the largest libraries in the country, and I haven't even looked around at the available resources.

Until a few days ago.

I'm overwhelmed.

When compared to libraries, Misplaced Pages is small. (See Digest of Education Statistics 2008, Chapter 7:Libraries and Educational Technology Libraries, and turn to page 617).

But is that a fair comparison?

Yes.

Why?

Because we have growth potential.  :)

And we cover everything, including libraries!

Guess what else I found?

Hunting for outlines

I began to study libraries and librarians, since they are experts in organizing knowledge. And of course I turned to Misplaced Pages to see what we had on the things I came across...

And while doing so I kept running into outlines on Misplaced Pages that are not (yet) part of the Outline of knowledge.

When I come across non-OOK outlines, generally I rename them, and reformat them to our standard outline format. But there is the occasional exception.

Here are some outlines I just added:

1. List of energy topics --> Outline of energy (it converted great)
2. List of Dewey Decimal classes --> Outline of Dewey Decimal classes (no conversion)
3. Library of Congress Classification --> ??? (no rename, no conversion)

The last 2 are outlines by their very nature, and so our standard outline subheadings didn't seem to fit. So I left them as is.

I renamed the first 2, but the last one is the name of the outline, that is, the topic itself is an outline, and that outline is presented as the article's content, so I left the name as is. For now. This needs more thought.

Of course, that's not all. Concerning those last 2 outlines above...

Alternate outlines of knowledge

...not only are they outlines, but they are outlines of knowledge! Well, the top few levels, at least.

Uh, so?

What happens if we linkify them?  :)

That is, what happens if we linkify their classifications to Misplaced Pages's outlines?  :)   :)   :)

They become alternate top ends to the OOK

Yep.

What can you find?

I challenge you to find some "hidden" outlines.

I dare you to take a look around Misplaced Pages for hidden outlines (that is, outlines not yet hooked into the OOK), and add your kills to WP:WPOOK#The hunt for hidden outlines.

My trophies are already there.

May the hunt begin!

The Transhumanist    20:13, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Firearm_(tool)

Did you read the talk page and all the delete and merge votes? None of the issues, such as the fact that the article is mostly just copy and pasted from elsewhere, or that it's a POV fork article with hardly any new content, which could easily be merged into the main Firearms article, were adequately countered by those who requested it be kept Theserialcomma (talk) 20:54, 17 April 2009 (UTC)