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I noticed your comments earlier on ]. With regard to your endorsement of the main article naming, I wondered if you were aware of the requirement in ] that things should be termed by "the common English language name as found in verifiable reliable sources"? "Republic of Macedonia" is neither the common English language name nor is it (by a very long way) the predominant term in reliable sources, the vast majority of which use simply "Macedonia" (per ). It would be helpful if you could consider this point, and if you continue to favour the option you supported, if you could explain why you believe NPOV should be set aside in this instance. -- ] (]) 15:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
I noticed your comments earlier on ]. With regard to your endorsement of the main article naming, I wondered if you were aware of the requirement in ] that things should be termed by "the common English language name as found in verifiable reliable sources"? "Republic of Macedonia" is neither the common English language name nor is it (by a very long way) the predominant term in reliable sources, the vast majority of which use simply "Macedonia" (per ). It would be helpful if you could consider this point, and if you continue to favour the option you supported, if you could explain why you believe NPOV should be set aside in this instance.I've posted some comments at ] which you might find helpful. -- ] (]) 16:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC) -- ] (]) 15:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
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In a welcome addition to a long under-represented area, this month saw the creation of the Pakistani military history task force, which hits the ground running with 11 participants.
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Hey, I saw you moved Chilean presidential election, 2009 to Chilean presidential election, 2009–2010. The elections will be held in 2009, and a possible second round in 2010, but to name the article Chilean presidential election, 2009–2010 is to presume that there will be second round and by doing so you are predicting the results in the article title. I want to ask you to move back the page. Dentren | 18:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
I think it's fairly obvious from opinion polls that we can expect the election to go to a second round, and I think it would be a better use of time to write up an article on the parliamentary election... But if it really matters to you that much, I can move it back. ::shrugs:: —Nightstallion18:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
We can wait with the move until the elections results are shown in december, until then there is not 2010 guaranted election. Was you not going to move back the article? Dentren | 10:37, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
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Storm of the month
Cyclone Aila was the second tropical cyclone to form within the Northern Indian Ocean during 2009. The disturbance that was to become Cyclone Aila formed on 21 May 2009 about 950 kilometres (590 mi) to the south of Kolkata, in India. Over the next couple of days the disturbance slowly developed before a Tropical Cyclone Formation Alert was issued by the Joint Typhoon Warning Center early on 23 May 2009 and being designated as a depression by RSMC New Delhi. As of 27 May 2009, 330 people have been killed by Aila and at least 8,208 more are missing, while about 1 million are homeless. Health officials in Bangladesh confirmed a deadly outbreak on diarrhea on 29 May, with more than 7,000 people being infected and four dying. In Bangladesh, an estimated 20 million people were at risk of post-disaster diseases due to Aila. Damage totaled $40.7 million (USD).
Tropical Depression One was the first tropical cyclone to develop during the 2009 Atlantic hurricane season. The depression formed on May 28, out of a disorganized area of low pressure off the coast of North Carolina. However after attaining its peak strength the depression began to weaken due to increasing wind shear and cooling sea surface temperatures with the final advisory being issued on May 29.
2009 Pacific typhoon season - In the two month period, there were four tropical cyclones, all within a short time period and small area. Tropical Depression Crising moved through the Philippines but didn't develop. Typhoon Kujira formed over the Philippines, causing 29 deaths and almost $30 million in damage, before becoming the equivalent of a Category 4 hurricane. While Kujira was active, a tropical depression formed and dissipated over the open ocean, while Typhoon Chan-hom developed and organized in the South China Sea, eventually crossing Luzon and causing 60 deaths and heavy damage.
North Indian - Aside from Aila, Cyclone Bijli formed in April, making landfall on Bangladesh and killing 7 people.
South Indian– Cyclone Jade was the final Cyclone to form. Jade formed on April 5th from a tropical disturbance it quickly intensifed and bcame a category one tropical cyclone on the SSHS before making its first of three landfalls on Madagascar. Jade then dissipated on April 11 after causing fifteen deaths.
Australian Region - Cyclone Kirrly formed on April 25 in the Arafura Sea to the north of Australia within 5 degrees of the equator which is an unusual area of formation. It quickly reached its peak before making landfall on eastern Indonesia.
South Pacific - As the last newsletter was published Tropical Cyclone Lin was just devloping as Tropical depression 14F. Lin eventually went on to affect Fiji and Tonga causing at least $1000 worth of damage. Tropical Disturbance 15F also formed this month within the Solomon Islands. It moved eventually moved into the Australian Region but was not monitored by TCWC Brisbane as anything higher than an area of low pressure.
Member of the month
The member of the month is Jason Rees, who joined Misplaced Pages in 2007, and has written nine tropical cyclone GA's. Jason primarily focuses on Southern Hemisphere storms, as well as the Western Pacific. He has plans for featured topics for several seasons, but for now, he is a regular member of the project who adds his input in discussions on the talk page. We thank Jason for his work, and we look forward to more articles!
Project News
There is debate as usual with regards to notability, as well as the status of the project in general, but nothing new is going on.
During the last week, some editors have organized a page — Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Viewed stats — that has a listing of monthly page views within the project. It is under construction, although it is complete for all Eastern Pacific tropical cyclones, as well as all Atlantic tropical cyclones from 1979 to the present. Interestingly, the top 6 viewed EPAC articles are all featured, and all of the top 16 in the basin are GA's. Unfortunately, the Atlantic, at least from 1979 to the present, is much worse, despite being viewed much, much more. The top eight-viewed Atlantic articles all are viewed more than 10,000 times per month, for a total of 363889 views per month, but only two of them are featured, and none of the others are GA. As always, any help in the retired storms would be greatly appreciated.
Somewhat tying into the bettering of project articles, the basin article challenge is still ongoing. Hurricanehink is currently in the lead with a GA in 2 basins. Cyclonebiskit is in 2nd, with one GA in the EPAC. The challenge is still open to anyone, and it is not so much a race, rather a challenge just to get a fairly important GA in each basin.
Errata
'stallion, hi!
There seems to be some inexplicable typos in earlier post...when I typed "Anyway, Libertas, for all its faults, is here to stay: I can't see it vanishing after the elections - it'll will probably get some MEPs", I of course meant to type "Anyway, Libertas, due to all its faults will vanish after the elections and will probably get no MEPs".
Similarly, when I wrote "Ganley will probably get personally elected", I meant to say "Ganley will not get personally elected and when he asks for a recount he'll end up with less votes".
Also, when I wrote "The French Libertas MEPs will get elected, he may get a smattering in the Baltics & Czechia, though he'll get none in UK, Spain & Portugal: the Brit Eurosceptics will eat him alive and the Iberians have really shot themselves in the foot. Poland may go big(ish) for Ganley", it should have read "Only one French Libertas MEP will get elected, he'll get nothing in the Baltics, Czechia, UK, Spain & Portugal, Poland will ignore him like a bad smell, and he'll end up with the same number of MEPs as the Pirate Party".
Obviously, I'll have to learn to type more carefully...:-)
On a more serious point, how the hell do I finish off an article about a party that vanishes overnight? There were formal pledges of allegiance from the affiliates so I can cite them becoming affiliates, but they won't put something on their websites saying "Er, actually, we didn't really mean it. Ganley who? Never heard of him <look sheepish>", so I can't cite them stopping being affiliates. So the article may literally end "On 8 June 2009 Ganley announced that he was retiring from politics(cite): the fate of the party was not specified."
Still, the good news is that we now have a solid structure for pan-European party articles and I can roll it out to the others. So from a wikiPOV, it wasn't a total waste of time.
Another good point: You can now concentrate on polishing up the election results pages for the 27 countries – and even more importantly, address the ongoing (FF from UEN to ALDE, Tories and ODS leaving EPP–ED) and upcoming group reshuffle... (BTW, you've read that DIKO in Cyprus wants to switch from ALDE to SOC?) —Nightstallion05:49, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm the translator of the article about the conmemorative 2€ coins in the Spanish wikipedia. I've made some edits, check them, but I think they are fine. Also, please be kind enough to let me know when you add additional information. As I don't come here so often I don't realise about the changes when some weeks have passed. Thank you! OboeCrack (talk) 03:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Dude! Next time something like Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats happens, please, please give me a heads up. I know I should have caught it, but I've been busy (Quick, think of a plausible excuse...my dog ate my homework...My jeep was attacked by wildebeest...My brain exploded.) Damn, I really should have caught that one....Regards, Anameofmyveryown (talk) 02:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Am busy: some freelance work came in with a short deadline and my laptop only works when I put it in the refrigerator. Oddly enough, this is true. Regards, Anameofmyveryown (talk) 12:50, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
This is probably one of the best European news pieces I've read over the past week. Hopefully, enough ODS senators will go against the grain to allow its passage. Therequiembellishere (talk) 03:47, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Nightstallion, since you've taken part in related discussions in the past, this is a notification that the Centralized discussion page set up to decide on a comprehensive naming convention about Macedonia-related naming practices is now inviting comments on a number of competing proposals from the community. Please register your opinions on the RfC subpages 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 if you wish. Cheers, BalkanFever10:06, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Macedonia article naming
I noticed your comments earlier on Misplaced Pages:Centralized discussion/Macedonia/main articles. With regard to your endorsement of the main article naming, I wondered if you were aware of the requirement in WP:NPOV#Article naming that things should be termed by "the common English language name as found in verifiable reliable sources"? "Republic of Macedonia" is neither the common English language name nor is it (by a very long way) the predominant term in reliable sources, the vast majority of which use simply "Macedonia" (per ). It would be helpful if you could consider this point, and if you continue to favour the option you supported, if you could explain why you believe NPOV should be set aside in this instance.I've posted some comments at Misplaced Pages:Centralized discussion/Macedonia/main articles#Users who endorse Proposal A which you might find helpful. -- ChrisO (talk) 16:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC) -- ChrisO (talk) 15:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
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