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Welcome, correspondents I occasionally do recent changes patrolling. If I reverted your edits, there's a large likelihood I did so for one or more of the following reasons:

1. No edit summary, especially for a removal. I can't read your mind. If you removed content that was a copyvio or an ad, you can either tell everyone by including an accurate edit summary, or not. If you don't, you stand a higher chance of getting reverted, because I have yet to meet any other recent changes patroller who can read minds, either.
2. No sourcing, especially for a controversial change. I don't normally revert non-outlandish changes unless I have personal knowledge that the original was more reasonable, but if you are going to make a change to a biography, the burden is on you to source it, especially if you want to assert that the existing article was radically incorrect with regard to any protected class.

If you include a good source and a good edit summary, odds of me reverting you are quite small indeed. If you still have questions about why I made a particular reversion, don't hesitate to start a new topic at the bottom of the page and ask why: I am always willing to explain my reasoning.

If you're here because I deleted an article you think should be undeleted, please read this first.
N.B. I don't respond well to either fawning or abuse. Talk to me like a peer, assume good faith, and you'll find I reciprocate in my helpfulness.

Position Essays may help you understand my point of view with regard to...

• Notability of Fictional Topics
• Articles for Deletion
• Blocks

Administrator Goals Doing my best to improve the tiny little wedge in the top center:

Jake Honig

{{tb|RadioFan|Jake Honig Speedy deletion tag removed with prejudice}}

Babylon 5 articles

Regarding your note here I can work with you on this. I have reviewed the B5-related articles previously and had similar thoughts. There is a lot of good content there, but susceptible to AfDs and the content is sometimes inappropriately split off into different articles. Is the B5 Wikiproject active? --maclean 19:55, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Other than you, I've received no response to my posts, either there or on the B5 project talk. Frankly, I work much better when I'm collaborating with at least one other person in trying to improve things. Are you up for such a Butch and Sundance take on it? :-) Jclemens (talk) 20:56, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Didn't Butch and Sundance die at the end of that movie? I'm much slower on action. Actually, I'm about to go on a week-long vacation. Let me know what you have in mind. I won't be accessing this account on vacation but I may check my email. maclean 15:31, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

How about we pick one category and make it into a list... List of locations in Babylon 5 is one I've already started, and it needs more stuff integrated into it, as well as a lot of cleanup work. Jclemens (talk) 15:57, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Looks like a good place to start. I'll look into it tonight but then I'm away for the week. maclean 20:47, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

It's a volunteer job, do what you can, be sure and enjoy your vacation! Thanks for the help! Jclemens (talk) 21:06, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Keeping redirects

When you move a page like Fortress Hill Station (MTR) to Fortress Hill Station, please keep the redirect. In this case, it even has incoming links; in general, you should only delete the redirect if you'd normally be able to delete it through the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --NE2 09:52, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

No idea why I didn't in that case, as I only consciously uncheck the box when there's a good reason to--that was six weeks ago, and I have no recollection of that article. Jclemens (talk) 15:50, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Nile Ranger

Hi. I see the Nile Ranger article has been deleted as "recreated", following an AfD !vote here. While at the time of the AfD the player didn't meet WP:ATHLETE he has since made his debut at senior level for Newcastle United, referenced on the Newcastle United website here (and elsewhere): "NEWCASTLE United hand senior debuts to Nile Ranger...", "Shola Ameobi (87) made it two after a mazy dribble inside the area before Nile Ranger got his first goal at senior level...". while admittedly this was in a friendly match the criterion at WP:ATHLETE doesn't appear to draw a distinction regarding the status of a match in which a participant has "... competed at the fully professional level of a sport". I see your protect log summary notes: "Any admin can unprotect per DRV or if there's a sourced assertion he now meets WP:ATHLETE", however since I've edited the article following the AfD but before it was deleted as a recreation I feel I'd be overstepping the mark if I were to unprotect it. Do you feel the source I've quoted is sufficient to unprotect and undelete, or would it be more appropriate for me to take it to DRV? Tonywalton  14:17, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

How about I userify it for you, you add the sourced information on his new appearance, and then we move it back to mainspace when you and I agree it's ready? It ought to be a lot faster than DRV, and I have no objection to it existing, just that it seemed to have kept being recreated without the circumstances changing. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 15:48, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm happy with that - I'd have done that myself but, as I say, as an involved admin I wouldn't like to! Cheers, Tonywalton  17:09, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Userfied and the blank page at Nile Ranger deleted. I'll work on it and give you a shout. Regards Tonywalton  18:25, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, didn't realize you were a fellow admin, else I would have suggested you do it directly. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 20:18, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

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Request for assistance

I am currently trying to help the editors in the Falun Gong (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) topic area move away from POV pushing and personal commentary. (Please note: Talk:Falun Gong#Topic area review.) You are an editor that I believe can help facilitate this change. I am looking for some uninvolved people with experience and savvy to become involved in the editorial process. A review of the article and associated discussion, in a style similar to a good article review or broad RfC response, would be a good first step and very helpful. However, some leadership in discussion and editing as a whole would be invaluable and sincerely appreciated. This can cover a very broad range including (but not limited to) identifying article flaws, keeping conversation focused on content, reporting disruptive editors, making proposed compromises, boldly correcting errors, and so forth. If you are willing to help out, please look things over and provide your feedback on the Falun Gong talk page. Essentially, we need some experienced editors to put things on track. Any assistance in this regard is gratefully welcomed. Thanks! Vassyana (talk) 09:01, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind invitation. However, I think I shall decline the invitation at this time. I have enough other things to consume my energies. Jclemens (talk) 02:14, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

You're a savvy editor and very helpful in religion and spirituality topic areas, so I thought to ask. Thank you for the response. If I can be of assistance to you, in the fashion I asked or otherwise, please do not hesitate to let me know. Be well! --Vassyana (talk) 06:38, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Elizabeth & The Catapult

I was going to create a page for Elizabeth & The Catapult and saw a note that the page used to exist and that you had deleted it on 22 Jun 2009. Since I'm a non-admin, I don't know what the page looked like before deletion; do you feel that the band (which has since reached #1 on the iTunes singer/songwriter chart) doesn't meet notability requirements, or that the previous page was just poorly done? I don't want to recreate it if it goes against a previous consensus. --Toby Rush ‹ ✆|✍ › 05:57, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Not sure that an iTunes ranking meets WP:BAND, but I can restore the past article for you to work on in your directory, so you can use it as a starting point and improve it from there. Interested? Jclemens (talk) 06:16, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah, looking at it, there was a section that was a copyright violation, it was removed, and after it was taken out, there really wasn't that much of an article left. I see no reason why you shouldn't be able to make a decent article about them, providing the sources exist. Jclemens (talk) 06:17, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for looking at it. If you don't mind restoring the old article to my directory when you have a moment, I think I have enough citations to flesh it out into something decent. I appreciate your help! --Toby Rush ‹ ✆|✍ › 14:59, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Moved to User:TobyRush/Elizabeth & The Catapult Jclemens (talk) 15:24, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll see what I can do with it. --Toby Rush ‹ ✆|✍ › 20:47, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your restraint

I want to express my appreciation for your recognizing when choosing NOT to edit is the right thing to do. Such demonstrated restraint, a simple good-faith thing to do, gives me strong reason to more closely appreciate your reasoning when you do choose to participate. Good for you. Good for pagespace. Thanks again for keeping your eyes on the ball, a long way down the field. BusterD (talk) 14:36, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome, but which restraint is this in regard to? Jclemens (talk) 15:22, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I requested you take a break on Rachel Corrie; today you edited the page for the first time in weeks. BusterD (talk) 20:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah. I've been on and off the page since. There simply wasn't any reason for me to have said or done anything in the interim. Jclemens (talk) 23:35, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Just saying. I called you out, then you did as I requested. I thank you for valuing my advice enough to act. BusterD (talk) 23:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

The truth is more mundane. I keep worrying away at the topic of Saint Pancake, because it really is a festering sore in the pillar of NPOV and NOTCENSORED. At the same time, there's no particular action on the table at the moment, so my participation in that thread is intentionally sparse--I wasn't planning on rapidly responding on that page no matter what you or anyone else might have said. Jclemens (talk) 23:46, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

If you're correct, better sourcing will appear eventually, so you'll have something to work with. I just noticed the Corrie talk space isn't as noisy recently. BusterD (talk) 00:03, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

WoW

What are we doing with Willy sightings these days? ANI? UAA? Ignoring? BusterD (talk) 00:54, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Dunno. I think the real WoW retired and apologized, but we've got a Pseudo-WoW doing the same schtick. Jclemens (talk) 00:57, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

It's a simple dance to learn. I was looking for the appropriate warning template. Level 4 improper humor? UW-sarcasm? BusterD (talk) 01:02, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Eh, if it's Jimbo's talk page or some other heavily watched page, I usually don't bother--let someone else handle it. On the admin bits, I tend to stick to the non-controversial things, like deleting PRODs, blocking obvious vandals, and closing clearcut AfD's. I think I've only blocked one editor with more than a few edits, and never had anything overturned at DRV. Only using the bit for the routine maintenance that needs doing lets me be more productive. Jclemens (talk) 01:05, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Viva64 - thanks

Hey, thanks for finally getting rid of Viva64. That article has been bugging me for ages. --R27182818 (talk) 15:05, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Friendly reminder

This is just a friendly reminder to make sure you check the history of an expired PROD before deleting it. Earlier today, you deleted Rivalries in the National Football League as an expired PROD, which I've now restored. Four other active articles were split off of it (improperly documented, but I'll fix that shortly) and thus it couldn't actually be deleted unless all those articles where deleted first.

Also, you are supposed to make an independent judgment about whether a deletion is truly uncontroversial. I just don't see how an article with 1600 edits over 4 year could possibly be uncontroversial, regardless of the fact no one removed the tag in 7 days.

Have a nice day, ThaddeusB (talk) 04:50, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

WQA

Please note that I have raised a WQA in order to get independent views on your accusations of my edits being Wikilawyering and Disruptive Editing at Talk:Michael Jenkins (religious leader).—Ash (talk) 07:34, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

You misunderstand, I think. I didn't accuse you of those actions, I informed you that your behavior constituted that, and advised you that if you persisted, you would face sanctions for that behavior. Jclemens (talk) 07:41, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Taitz

user:King of Hearts relisted Orly Taitz yesterday, after an extremely contentious DRV, and you've already closed it as a keep. What's that about? I thought the point of relisting was for it to be relisted. If the closing admin's decision was simply going to be overturned, do it honestly: call it overturned and be done with it instead of pretending to relist. - Simon Dodd { U·T·C·WP:LAW } 04:19, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, as the closer of the DRV, I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clearer, but the AfD is intended to run for 7 additional days. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:21, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

As somebody who believes the article should be kept, I also think the AFD should be allowed to run for a minimum of 7 days, and so far it's around 5 days, with a large gap in the middle. This is an unusual case, given the problems with the initial close, makinga WP:SNOW close (if that's what's going on) less appropriate. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 04:27, 9 August 2009 (UTC)