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Like I said, I'm starting to get pretty good at the category thing, seems like it's starting to be my niche. ;) Still not as good as some of my fellow categorizers, but I'm working on it. So, you're welcome! :)

Kleina

Since I know a bit of Icelandic, I created the article for you. I hope you don't mind. :) Theleftorium 20:12, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Not at all. Looks great. Thank you very much. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:09, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

chinese donuts?

Does that page qualify for your donut list? Or are you only including dessert-variety fried dough foods? Shymian (talk) 07:58, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I thought you were just compiling a list of all donut articles, not ones for creation or improvement. But if it's creation you're after, do the two redirects I created count?  ;-) As for the other ones you mentioned, sorry but I've never heard of them. I only knew of this one from some of the dimsum places I've been to. I'll ask around the next time I'm there, though, to see what the response is. Sorry again! Shymian (talk) 08:12, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

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Barnstar

	The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
	This has got to be the best page I found on NPP so far, unfortunately. I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 20:48, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Muchas gracias! New page patrol can be interesting, no doubt about it. Thanks for taknig the time to recognize a fellow editors work. Kudos. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:52, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Re:Quesitos

Man, that stub made me hungry. You know when I went to Puerto Rico two years ago, I took my whole family, including my two "BoriGringa" granddaughters. There they ate their first "Piraguas". When we returned to the states I decided to write an article about the Piragua, but I had no idea what to do. Anyway, I ended up with this: Piragua. Who knows, maybe with time "Quesito" will end up with a full article. Tony the Marine (talk) 23:55, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Atama RFA

Wait, we're agreeing on something? Weird. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:33, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

We probably agree on a lot of things Sarek. But I was surprised to see you again involved in a conflicted situation with Otter. It's like you still want to ignore the feedback you've gotten. I find it pretty distressing. Misplaced Pages is not just about who's "right" or "wrong" and choosing sides. It's about respecting your fellow editors and treating them all fairly whatever their perspective or opinions. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:42, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I agree totally. I've backed away from the Tubefilter and LG15 articles, because my perspective on their notability is too entwined with my interactions with Otter. However, that doesn't mean I can't recognize behavior that is not appropriate, like trying to edit-war unfavorable comments off a talk page. If there's a question in my mind about whether something's appropriate, I ask. If there isn't, I don't go looking for someone to do my dirty work for me; I do it myself and take whatever heat comes.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:07, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't understand the adamant interest in that article from either side of the dispute. I wonder if there's some COI and advertising interest at work? But I agree that there have been problems with the approach of those critical the article's content. There are lots of ways to get additional eyes on it and to get additional input and, if necessary, to get additional admins to have a look. When admins rigorously pursue a dispute with one editor it becomes disruptive and unhelpful, even if they're "right" on the underlying content issues. There needs to more of an effort to resolve and alleviate disputes instead of just policing and choosing winners and losers, but that's a problem far greater than any one admin. The tiered structure here is a big contributor to the friction and lack of collegiality we experience. I see there's an Arb election coming up. Should be interesting. That's another process that's pretty flawed although it's a bit better than it was I think. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:18, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Badushah

Badushah is a south indian sweet, available readily in the sweet shops in Kerala, Karnataka and Tamil Nadu (not sure abt Andhra Pradesh); not just in Bimbis. It is made from a stiff dough of all purpose flour, ghee and a pinch of baking soda. One inch diameter, half inch think discs are shaped with hands, fried in ghee or oil and dunked in thick sugar syrup. Removed after a while, so that it has a sugar coating. Not very sweet, but tasty, slightly flaky in texture. I think the Bimbis in Pazhavangadi has closed down. Paalappoo (talk) 03:21, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I thought you wanted me to do this? Anywasy, Bimbi's badushahs aren't as good as those from Grand Sweets and Snacks, Madras. cheers -SpacemanSpiff 03:47, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I did want you to do it. How long was I supposed to wait? :) The ones in the photo linked at the bottom look GOOOOD. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:50, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

As long as it took for a DYK for ArtReview. Btw, I added the origins info for the sweet. You might also want to do an article for Badusha's brother - Jehangir (Jangiri etc). -SpacemanSpiff 04:06, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I am a reliable source.. :) I am from Thiruvananthapuram... Paalappoo (talk) 05:04, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

But technically, badusha is no different in the Bimbis in Kochi or Ernakulam compared to that in Thiruvananthapuram. Child, I still think the addition of Bimbis is undue per taste buds. -SpacemanSpiff 05:11, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately I am not in a position to conduct the original research (OR) necessary to determine the truth. Could you add some ingredient information? Maybe a link to a recipe? ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:26, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

There's a recipe on gbooks, but the book has no preview. Do you have access to a "large" library? I can find something for you to look up then... -SpacemanSpiff 17:06, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

You expect me to get up from computer keyboard and monitor? I thought you were going to develop the article. I can't wait to see your DYK!!! :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:14, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

No DYK, it's already passed the 5 day threshold. I'm too lazy on the DYK front, I think lists have a better return on edits ratio, no shortage of cricketing stats to compile to lists either. I'll see what I can do about Badushah, I kept postponing it mainly because of the lack of sourcing.-SpacemanSpiff 17:25, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Wondering if Badushah is related to Balushahi. Maybe Spaceman will know better.Paalappoo (talk) 11:12, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Spinning

Thanks for letting me know about the absence of a financial definition for "spinning."

I will try to create a page for it no later than Friday.

BiographicalOmissionsCorrected (talk) 08:38, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Lavanga Latika

I had this today. Recipe is here. Was similar in taste to badushah, except that it was served warm, along with a little sugar syrup and that it had a coconut flavoured filling. Badushah is dry. No idea which part of the country lavanga lathika is from. Thought you will be interested. I can get pics for you. Paalappoo (talk) 18:19, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Lucky you. Did they look like this or this ? I'm having a hard time finding a good photo, but I'm interested! When can you upload some photos? ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:24, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

This is a better image. It can also be pure white in color or other shades of yellow/orange. It's a Bengali sweet. -SpacemanSpiff 23:34, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

The pic Spaceman refers to is of Kheer Kodom, which is a harder rasgulla with a coating and is dry from outside. It is of course a Bengali sweet. I can upload pictures of both, kheer kodom and laganga latika; but I have to go back to the place where I had it. Till yesterday, I didnt know that lavanga latika existed. Paalappoo (talk) 02:43, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Isn't lavang latika just a deep fried Maida ball with coloring, and a filling of coconut, sugar and cloves, soaked in syrup? At least that's how I remember it... if you're going to a sweet shop, can you get pictures of all the sweets they have? Might be helpful for other articles and also the list of Indian sweets. cheers. -SpacemanSpiff 04:26, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

In my experience Spacemen don't know much about dessert apart from freeze dried ice cream. So it's not surprising that Spliff doesn't know his laddu from Nollen Sandesh. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:51, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Posted pics of Kheer kodom, , and . Also, two types of sandesh, Nollen Gurer Sandesh and Jolbhara Sandesh. I had got lavanga latika from a street-side food stall, not from a proper sweet shop. Shall post pics during the week.Paalappoo (talk) 07:45, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Hmmmm... the doughnut article says "Balushahi, also called badushah, is made from flour, deep fried in clarified butter, and dipped in sugar syrup. " So perhaps Pala is correct that these are the same thing? ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:38, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Could be, "shahi" means something like royal, same with "shah"; "balu" in the Urdu/Hindi of the north could've been corrupted to "badu" in the south. There probably are some subtle differences, like adding powdered cardamom to Badushah and so on. -SpacemanSpiff 19:50, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

μ

I have problems too. Just did two articles on Jaji, and for balance it seems there should be two on Jija. But the Jerusalem Italian Jews Association doesn't see all that notable. Jijas has a picture waiting for an article but spiced minced pork, whether in a sausage, meatloaf or just fried, can't possibly be notable. Google books says a man may call his wife's mother or his wife's mother's sister jija. For all their relative clarity and generality, jija and bhabhi are encapsulated in a fundamentally consanguineal construction. Jija declared that the pig was the winner and even the tiger agreed. A predicative demonstrative may anticipate jija in a statement. None of this is helpful. Hard to think positively about the problem.

Back to the subject, "mu" is nothing to do with dogs. Cows, maybe. Aymatth2 (talk) 01:35, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Taqi Haider (talk) 06:01, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

November 2009

Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Misplaced Pages pages that have open discussion, such as on User talk:Drmies, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 06:19, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much for this extraordinarily helpful reminder. You probably deserve a barnstar, or something. ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:32, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Haven't had one of those in a long, long time. You know, I have yet to slap you with a vandalism warning, and the reports my socks keep filing for you at ANI keep getting turned down as having no merit...when did you become such a good boy? Drmies (talk) 06:47, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Doc, there is a very limited talent pool of writers who can work on the critically advanced subject matter I contribute. Obviously the overwhelming majority here appreciates this vitally important work. Many are probably hoping I'll run for Arbcom, but (as much as I hate to disappoint anyone) I'm just not sure I have time for that and The Bacon Mania 2010 Strip for the Future event. ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:09, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

But think of how you could use that power. One could mandate that all editors must contribute to a bacon article or be blocked. Wiki-legislating from the bench. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 07:59, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Only a God-king has that kind of power Scaps. But rest assured that I am carefully plotting how to usurp that role as soon as possible so I can impose a unifying vision of sweet and savory delights across all of Misplaced Pages with a glorious rise to absolute power atop the shoulders of adoring throngs while wearing a candy gilded bacon doughnut wikicrown. ;) ChildofMidnight (talk) 08:05, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Bacon? Phoenix and Winslow (talk) 16:07, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Are you not familiar with the glorious five-pointed bacon star? I'm pushing for a ring... but the armies of darkness are resisting progress... ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:25, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

<--Man, this is a difficult conversation for me to read--not just the fear of CoM as a god-king-president-arbcommer (ArbCoM?), but also this bacon talk: I haven't had bacon IN A WEEK! Drmies (talk) 18:15, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

I had bacon just this morning. Does that count? Geoff 21:49, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Please don't bait Drmies. He's weak willed. We must all pull for him to resist bacon melts, BLTs, bacon avocado burgers (like the one I had last night), bacon salads, and sides of bacon with breakfast. We're all pulling for you Doc! I know you can do it. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:53, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

I just now read something about the "BLTini" — vodka shaken with tomato water, vermouth and a basil leaf (posing as lettuce), garnished with a crispy bacon bite. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:31, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Dutchie (pastry)

My extremely weak contribution to Doughnut Days, inherently POV due to an ongoing debate by sadsacks like me as to whether it is even a doughnut or not. I'm buying doughnuts for the team in an hour and will see if I can scam a picture of one on my cellphone. -- Samir 10:04, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

I used to pick the raisins out of Dutchies, but I don't like raisins...the rest was good though. --kelapstick (talk) 16:13, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Very cool Samir! Thanks so much for making an important contribution to the effort! I am looking forward to the photo. Kelapstick, I'm pretty sure those were seeds you picked out of your duchy... before you passed it upon the left hand side. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:09, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Wait, I see there is a photo now. And it looks awesome. First square milk jugs and now this. Who would ever have imagined such a thing was even possible??? ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:11, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh, square milk jugs are horrible...you can't pour them without spilling and they barely fit into the little slot in the fridge door that keeps liquids. But nonetheless, great pic and article. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 22:55, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

They can be hard to pour, however you could always sign up for the clinic they were holding at Wal-Mart. I find they fit better than a regular gallon jug, but it depends on the size of your fridge I suppose. We saved about 2 dollars per gallon, so it was well worth any issues that came about. Unfortunately the plant that filled them near us closed down this week, something about not being able to provide enough volume for Costco/Wal-Mart or something like that. Quite a few people out of work as it were. --kelapstick (talk) 02:02, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

How did you find all that information ChildOfMidnight! Nice additions. Wow. Some of these new doughnut days articles should go up for DYK. Unfortunately the dutchie was the last of the doughnuts picked out this morning, and the kid who took it picked them raisins out also Kelapstick -- Samir 23:56, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Chipa and Chipas

I was looking at your To Do list. There's already a Chipa article, were you referring to the same thing -- cassava/corn-based cheese pastries? NinetyNineFennelSeeds (talk) 15:29, 21 November 2009 (UTC) I also just looked at your Goya photos. I first thought the title was "The Encyclopedia Anyone Can EAT" which has given me a possible idea for my user page. NinetyNineFennelSeeds (talk) 15:32, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Indeed. It looks like a redirect was all that was needed. Thanks for pointing that out. I suspect many of the redlinks just need to be redirected to the right place. I think a few of them are just translations of the word doughnut. But others look like they may be distinct or notable or other types of fried dough, so any help sorting through it is most welcome. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:53, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Booze and co

Hi com, sorry I am a bit confused as to which comments you are referring to? Off2riorob (talk) 18:17, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Invite

Thanks Will. I'm going to try to leave off presidential politics for a little while longer. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:05, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Adhirasam

Another one for the DDs. Pretty tasty stuff this is, writing the article made me yearn for it, decided to make some, so tomorrow morning I should be munching away on the rice flour variety. Looks like these, the hole is optional. Happy salivating. -SpacemanSpiff 03:02, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I give you an amazing sweet that's good for the gods, and you still haven't touched it? -SpacemanSpiff 17:18, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Patience young Jedi. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:05, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay, now then. I checked out the image and the article yesterday. Looks good. Did you notice that there is a miniature of the photo in the photo? What's going on with that? ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:48, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

No idea. I'll take a picture of the Adhirasams I made yesterday and post, but they don't look like they do in that picture. IMO, presentation is required only when it's not delicious! BTW, you might find some pictures you like on the foodista.com flickr account, they are all available by the CC---- license thingy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ] (] • ])

I look forward to seeing your version! ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:14, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I take it you don't know how to use the {{unsigned}} template? -SpacemanSpiff 01:51, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

You mean I can't just leave it there and hope someone fixes it? ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:21, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

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Messina Hof

Do you recall it? It was speedied as advertising, I remember doing work on it, and it being reasonable notable...but I can't remember when it was...looks like it was deleted in June/July, and just recently...I asked for it to be userfied so I can take a look at the history.--kelapstick (talk) 23:08, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Did you take a look at the deletion discussion ? It doesn't seem very promising to me. Your time would be far better spent working on the Doughnut Drive. Obviously. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:11, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I saw that, but I am thinking that if there is a valid version prior to oakinteractive editing, it should just be reverted to that, rather than speedy deleted. Besides, reverting back is easier than creating an article. I have to head out in 45 minutes, we are getting a new fridge, ours died on Friday, hard to prepare for Thanksgiving without a place to keep one's food.--kelapstick (talk) 23:13, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Make sure it has the ice and water dispenser in the front. I always thought those kind are cool (even though they seem to break). ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:15, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

HAHA funny you should say that, our ice maker broke a few months ago. This time it was the compressor, we like the ice and water. But since we rent it isn't our choice, but it is the same brand and style so hopefully it has one.--kelapstick (talk) 23:19, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Krafna

I have done some additions to this article, would you look to see if it can be left on due to inability to source.Turqoise127 (talk) 23:22, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Looks good to me. But I think it's shady that you have Berliner posing as a Krafna for the photo. How are the other Croatian doughnut articles coming? ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:29, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

A salute to a gracious comment

The kind and beautiful grace you displayed on Off2riorob‎'s talk at a time when so much weight was arrayed against them ... just before Thanksgiving ... brings a smile, and a tear to my eye. Bless you. (No response required.) Proofreader77 (talk) 08:22, 24 November 2009 (UTC)