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:I left him a note about templating experienced users on his talk, and a message on the article talk about the material. ] (]) 02:54, 3 February 2010 (UTC) | :I left him a note about templating experienced users on his talk, and a message on the article talk about the material. ] (]) 02:54, 3 February 2010 (UTC) | ||
::Gigs, thanks for contacting me about this matter. | |||
::What I found condescending about the situation is this. The above was discussed on the talk page of the article, but as Peter discussed, he also reverted. Poor form. | |||
::A third opinion was provided, that was completed ignored. It was suggested that drawing opinions from primary sources (as Peter did) was not the best way forward, and that removing material was done in cases where a user genuinely beleives it hurts the article to add it (as I do). | |||
::There was no consensus or compromise as Peter puts it above. Simply that unverified material was added to an article and it was challeneged. | |||
::If Peter wishes to work towards a solution here, we need to see that he wants more than just to put this material in and that other concerns are unimportant. I have quoted policy, explained my reasoning, offered discussion, read the third opinion and still Peter simply reverts. ] (]) 11:53, 3 February 2010 (UTC) |
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Whether you did it backwards or not depends on what you are trying to do. What are you trying to do?—Kww(talk) 22:01, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
- The history we need to preserve is on the Wikiproject version, I wanted to get it put back under the redirect to preserve merged material attribution for material that's been merged into the redirect's target. Gigs (talk) 22:02, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
- But why did you restore such a faulty article to article space? It was moved to project space by consensus, and there has been no noticeable improvement.—Kww(talk) 22:05, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
- I see the redirect has been restored. I'm still not sure why you think this was necessary: now we have a cloned history, and you've made it easier for people to restore the article against consensus.—Kww(talk) 22:07, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
- We are required to do this per WP:MAD... since material from it was merged, we must preserve the history. Our licenses require attribution. Gigs (talk) 22:09, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
- I see the redirect has been restored. I'm still not sure why you think this was necessary: now we have a cloned history, and you've made it easier for people to restore the article against consensus.—Kww(talk) 22:07, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
- But why did you restore such a faulty article to article space? It was moved to project space by consensus, and there has been no noticeable improvement.—Kww(talk) 22:05, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
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Butter's Bottom Bitch (again)
I tried to follow what I believe was agreed on as a compromise on Talk:Butters' Bottom Bitch, but merely get reverted and get these type of messages on my talkpage (which I find somewhat condescending). Could you have another look at the discussion?
Peter 00:30, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
- I left him a note about templating experienced users on his talk, and a message on the article talk about the material. Gigs (talk) 02:54, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
- Gigs, thanks for contacting me about this matter.
- What I found condescending about the situation is this. The above was discussed on the talk page of the article, but as Peter discussed, he also reverted. Poor form.
- A third opinion was provided, that was completed ignored. It was suggested that drawing opinions from primary sources (as Peter did) was not the best way forward, and that removing material was done in cases where a user genuinely beleives it hurts the article to add it (as I do).
- There was no consensus or compromise as Peter puts it above. Simply that unverified material was added to an article and it was challeneged.
- If Peter wishes to work towards a solution here, we need to see that he wants more than just to put this material in and that other concerns are unimportant. I have quoted policy, explained my reasoning, offered discussion, read the third opinion and still Peter simply reverts. Alastairward (talk) 11:53, 3 February 2010 (UTC)