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3RR violation

Please be aware you have violated 3RR on the Jericho page.

If you don't revert your changes, I may report you.

ReaverFlash (talk) 15:05, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Exodus discussion

Hello, thanks for your helpful comments on my talk page.

I think you may be misinterpreting Exodus 6. God says that ""I am the LORD. I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by my name the LORD I did not make myself known to them." The last part of that sentence clearly indicates that God is talking about revelaing His name to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob etc. in the Book of Genesis, and clearly does not mean that God has not previously told Moses His name (since this obviously happened just three chapters previously!) At no point does the Bible say that both Exodus 3 and Exodus 6 are the first time God has revealed His name.

The summary on the Exodus page I took issue with read as follows:

"Moses returns to Egypt, where Yahweh reveals his name to him. ^ There are two separate incidents where Yahweh reveals his name, both described as being for the first time, although characters in Genesis clearly know Yahweh by name"

The first sentence could be changed to read "Moses returns to Egypt, where God again says that His name is Yahweh." The reference is clearly misleading, since there are not two incidents described as being the first time God has revealed His name, and the mention that characters in Genesis knew 'Yahweh' by name is also misleading, since the characters in Genesis knew God but did not know the name 'Yahweh'.

Given all of this, and the lack of impact it adds to the story of Exodus, I suggest deleting the sentence and reference. They are misleading and make it sound like there is a clear contradiction, when there is none.

Please reply on the talk page you used previously, or on my account talk page: ajbrown141 (I have now signed in properly).

Thanks again, AJ Brown

ajbrown141 (talk) 16:48, 14 August 2009

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Response in Comma Johanneum Discussion

My explanation of why I think you are incorrect to remove the material that you removed from the article titled "Comma Johanneum" is on the | Discussion Page. 7Jim7 (talk) 10:30, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

A Reworked Paragraph in the Comma Johanneum Discussion

I rewrote a paragraph, as you suggested, and it's displayed on the | Discussion Page (click) for the Comma Johanneum article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 7Jim7 (talk • contribs) 09:36, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Requested Explanation

Here's (click) the explanation that you requested. It's larger than the original paragraph. 7Jim7 (talk) 14:54, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Suggestions

Here (click) I've expressed my suggestions regarding your rewrite in the "Grammar" section of the discussion page for the "Comma Johanneum" article. If during the last 20 minutes you were adding something to that section, I may have interfered with that; I don't know. If I did, sorry. 7Jim7 (talk) 12:46, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

A request for your assistance

PiCo, I know that you write very well and are a journalist. There's a huge "flap" over the article title, "Southern Baptist Convention Conservative Resurgence/Fundamentalist Takeover." An outside journalist whom I also respect has suggested these titles:

• The Historic Battle for the Southern Baptist Convention
• The Corporate Battle that Redefined the Southern Baptist Convention
• The Southern Baptist Convention Under New Ownership: How a Church Was Won and Lost.
• The 20-Years War For the Southern Baptist Convention

I would appreciate your eval of the above suggestions, and also other thoughts that you may have as to what is both descriptive and stands a chance of acceptance. Quite a few other suggestions have come in to "Southern Baptist Convention Conservative Resurgence/Fundamentalist Takeover" Talk Page. Thanks. I am AFAProf01@AOL.com and Afaprof01 (talk) 17:27, 19 August 2009 (UTC).

More Comprehensible

I changed my "four points" in the "Grammar" section on the discussion page for the "Comma Johanneum" article to the "five things" to make my comments less wordy and easier to understand. Sorry about those "four points." 7Jim7 (talk) 12:28, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Also, I changed my revision of your paragraph to make it more similar to your original words. 7Jim7 (talk) 19:01, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

The Second Refutation

I see that you've decided to keep the refutation (the fact that grammatical gender agreement with multiple nouns never occurs in the New Testament) of the first explanation (Nolan's and Dabney's and Dr. Hill's) in the "Grammar argument" in the "Comma Johanneum" article. If we're going to go down that road, then what about the refutation (the fact that John uses the neuter phrase "the thing bearing witness" with the neuter noun "Spirit" in verse 5:7, making no effort to acknowledge the personality of the "Spirit" in verse 5:7, which makes illogical the conclusion that John uses the masculine phrase "the ones bearing witness" with the neuter nouns "Spirit" and "water" and "Blood" in verse 5:8 to acknowledge the personality of the "Spirit" in verse 5:8) of the second explanation (Dr. Marshall's)? The "Grammar argument" paragraph already says that Dr. Hill's "irregularity" is not an irregularity at all, given that grammatical gender agreement with multiple nouns never occurs in the New Testament. Should this paragraph also mention that there is really no reason to think that John uses the masculine gender in verse 5:8 to acknowledge the personality of the Spirit, given that John does not use the masculine gender to acknowledget the personality of the Spirit in verse 5:7, leaving the third explanation (Dr. Wallace's) as the only reasonable explanation for the masculine gender in verse 5:8? 7Jim7 (talk) 13:18, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Noah's ark

Hi,

I changed the wording of the narrative in the article so it fits more with what the Bible says. I hope you don't mind.

ReaverFlash (talk) 16:56, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Syncretalism

Decidedly not a word. I think you mean "syncretism". Either way, not applicable to Messianic Judaism. JosiahHenderson (talk) 04:23, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry, no offense was taken at your comment. If you were looking for fun, I'll give you some: find a dictionary that accepts "syncretalism" as a word. JosiahHenderson (talk) 04:28, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Zanderbobander on David

Any clue as to what this editor is trying to do? Dougweller (talk) 07:52, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Uncle Monty

Way too young to die, I'm sorry about your friend, younger than my Mom. No, this guy would have been way older, writing the constitution back in the 1950s or late 1940s. I've started a stub on him, thanks to you. There is an article on Uncle Monty, it could use your expertise. Thanks, Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 15:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Takes two to tango (idiom)

I didn't know how to construe your talk page comment on the subject of idioms? Would you consider expanding your contribution somewhat? --Tenmei (talk) 20:01, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Large scale text and reference deletions: Edit war warning

Hello,

You deleted a large amount of text and references from Sanhedrin Trial of Jesus with no discussion and upon their restoration by me reverted me again. Based on Misplaced Pages policies huge text and reference deletions require prior discussion since the sudden deletions may amount to the loss of valuable content contributed by other editors. I have no choice but to restore the material you deleted.

Furthermore, please do not perform continued reverts, in order to avoid an edit war for that may result in your being blocked from Misplaced Pages. Thank you. History2007 (talk) 12:54, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Duplicate References

In the Grammar Argument section of the Comma Johanneum article, I added some references for Nolan and Dabney , but in the process, the references for Marshall and Wallace were duplicated in the reference section, so that the reference section now shows references 24 and 25 for Nolan and reference 26 for Dabney and reference 27 for Marshall and reference 28 for Wallace, but then also (duplicates) reference 29 for Marshall and reference 30 for Wallace. I don’t know how to delete the duplicate references (29 and 30) from the reference section. 7Jim7 (talk) 00:42, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Edit warring at Chronology of the Bible

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing.

This has been reported here.

September 2009

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your unorthodox ways of dealing with wiki-addiction

PiCo, I am happy to give you a week's block if that's what you are aiming for, but, as I said on Doug's talkpage, if you're really addicted, what's the point of getting your account banned? You'll just edit anonymously, or create a number of new accounts. If you really need to be banned from editing Misplaced Pages, you'll need to find a solution on your end: you will need to get a network administrator to either point wikipedia.org to 127.0.0.1, or if you still need to read the wiki, install a net-nanny software that blocks all of *wikipedia.org*action=edit* for you and then password-protect it so you cannot change it back. --dab (𒁳) 12:46, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Cherubini's modern reputation

These are just some thoughts, so I'm not sure the article talk page is the best place to put my comments. I hope you don't mind me placing them here.

"Beethoven regarded him as the greatest of his contemporaries, but today he's very obscure. What happened? Some explanation is needed"

First, and most obviously, many, many composers have had their music drop out of circulation after their deaths and have to have their reputations restored by later generations (even Bach is an example of this process). Cherubini is famous for writing operas in the French tradition and French audiences have been more fickle than most. The operas of major figures such as Lully and Rameau had disappeared from the stage by the late 18th century and were only revived in the 20th. In fact, the full revival only really got under way in the 1960s or 70s. Lully and Rameau were revived as part of the early music movement. Cherubini, being Classical rather than Baroque, didn't benefit much from this. Classical opera on the modern stage is almost wholly dominated by the works of Mozart (Gluck's Orfeo and Beethoven's Fidelio are really the only other Classical regulars in opera houses nowadays). So that's another disadvantage. Callas revived Medea but it takes someone of the stature of Callas to sing that role and they aren't ten a penny.

Cherubini stopped writing operas in the early 19th century and became a music professor. In this capacity, thanks to the Memoirs of Berlioz, he has acquired a reputation as a crusty pedant, the enemy of all musical progress, the guy who chased a young Berlioz round a music reading-room screaming at him in a crazy Italian accent because he had come in through the wrong door. What is forgotten is that Berlioz admired much of Cherubini's music.

Other factors: Cherubini's music isn't as immediately appealing as that of some other composers of the time. Much of it can seem quirky, jagged, even awkward on first acquaintance.

Well, those are just a few thoughts. --Folantin (talk) 11:29, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Your edit war at Chronology of the Bible

You've been reported here at WP:AN3. There could be longer block in your future. If you will accept a voluntary one-month ban from this article, you may be able to avoid consequences. EdJohnston (talk) 23:38, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Per your request on my Talk page, I am willing to block you for one month. If you change your mind, use {{unblock|Your reason here}} to get the attention of administrators. I'll wait for you to confirm here that this is what you want. If you choose to accept this plan, I will then close the 3RR case with no further action. EdJohnston (talk) 01:14, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

My reason for asking for a block is simply to help me control my Wiki-addiction problem - it's taking up too much time. So yes, please block me for a month. Thanks :) PiCo (talk) 02:09, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

OK, you have a semi-voluntary block for one month. I am closing the 3RR complaint. When you return, we should probably discuss a topic ban so that problems don't recur. You may use {{unblock|Your reason here}} to ask for unblock. I notice that User:Dbachmann also gave you a voluntary one-week block previously. EdJohnston (talk) 02:25, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Gordon Bennett (artist)

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'Creation account/story/myth'?

After reading previous comments of your on the issue of the use of 'myth' based terminologies I was wondering whether you might be interested in the current debate on http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Creation_myth#Neutral_point_of_view.3F .

I'd also appreciate thoughts on some facebook groups that I have created on the issue (as listed on my talk page) as I am looking for constructive ways forward.
cheers Gregkaye (talk) 11:14, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi PiCo, just thought it might be appropriate to pass my thanks to your son for his valued contribution to the discussion on the usage of "myth".
regards Gregkaye (talk) 12:40, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Don't just revert

I gave my reasons for the edits on Creation according to Genesis. Both in the edit summaries and on the talk page. The only response on the talk page so far has been positive. For you to revert and say "Discuss it on the talk page" when I did and you ignored it borders on dishonest. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't look at the talk page to see if I'd discussed it there, but I suggest you be more careful in the future. - Lisa (talk - contribs) 13:04, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

This is the second time you've reverted my edits without explaining why on the talk page. And the second time you've admonished me for doing so. I gave my reasons on the talk page, and they were accepted by other editors. If you have something to say about it, do it there. - Lisa (talk - contribs) 13:39, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Timeline_Classical_Composers_Classical

Hi PiCo, you asked why this timeline template wasn't in use at List of Classical era composers‎. Whilst I'm not exactly sure of the reason, I guess some editors may object because it's a partial list which could be seen as promoting a particular (non-neutral) point of view. Personally I like it too - and references can be added and other improvements could be made. One of the other composer timelines Template:Timeline Classical Composers Famous is being proposed for deletion at the moment as it has raised some objections. The discussion is at Misplaced Pages:Templates for discussion/Log/2009 December 15‎ if you're interested. Regards, --(RT) (talk) 01:28, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

NP Lemche

Yesterday, I noticed that you were the one who created the Niels Peter article. A while back, both Dr. Jim West and NPL had issues with the article and I was wondering if you were aware of NPL's issues with it. If not, would you like a copy of the email where NPL outlines his issues (he gives 10 points) to look over? It's fairly long to post here, though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Imeriki al-Shimoni (talk • contribs) 04:42, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Just read your reply on my talk page. No worries on your delay, understandable, and I myself, don't always get around to checking Wiki. I forwarded you 3 emails (via wikipedia's email user link) sent by JW and NPL discussing their views on the NPL article. The first two gives you an vague idea of their view of Misplaced Pages in general and the NPL article (their view of Wiki isn't very positive, so at least you know part of what you are dealing with — JW has gone much deeper in detail about his dislike of Misplaced Pages, I'm sure he has discussed this somewhere on his blog, too). In the third, NPL outlines several of his objections to the NPL article. Hope this is helpful. — al-Shimoni (talk) 12:32, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Olivia Manning

If you have the time or the inclination for a less religiously (and certainly less confrontational/frustrational) inclined than some you've been frequenting recently, I would like to lure you back to the crabby lady. I'm finally finishing up a section of her literature etc, and plan to request a peer review and if that goes well, try for FA. What do you think? Any help gratefully received? --Slp1 (talk) 20:33, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

I was going to say that Olivia wouldn't be too keen on what you suggest, but on second thoughts I'm not sure! I can totally relate on the "why do I edit it?" question. I have been sucked into men's, fathers', alimony rights etc in which I have zero (0) personal, family or professional interest. For me, I think it is part of a core need for fairness and for both sides of a story to be told. And of course some of the editors in these areas are more focussed on getting word of "The Truth" out there.

I'm feeling somewhat discouraged since last night I reread the further improvements at the Good Article review , and I see that the literary summing up section still needs a lot of work. If you have any suggestions about how best to organize things I would love it, since I am a bit stuck with this. I've asked User:Cailil too. There's a bit more material on this subpage, and I'm sure I can find some more info about the short stories, if that is the way we decide to go, though not sure there's much about the poetry, but I can look.--Slp1 (talk) 15:06, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Watchit Peekipoo!

I am being urged to put Little Len up for FA again. .... and what is this "housewife" bit? I have never been a housewife in my life..... it is something I am hopeless at. Amandajm (talk) 06:31, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Those indents you changed

You recently changed the indents toward the bottom of Talk:Creation according to Genesis‎, but I feel that your change was incorrect because it makes the comments look like they were replies to Ben's comment, which they were not. What are your thoughts?
-Garrett W. {☎ ✍} 23:29, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

You're probably right, but I just tried to change it and got caught in an edit conflict. No time for any more, have to work. You might like to change it? PiCo (talk) 23:34, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I will say that I know which comments I was responding to – so I will correct at least the indentation of my own comment.
-Garrett W. {☎ ✍} 23:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs

Hello PiCo! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 1 of the articles that you created is tagged as an Unreferenced Biography of a Living Person. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring this article up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current 19 article backlog. Once the article is adequately referenced, please remove the {{unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the article:

1. Azzan Yadin - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

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Abraham

Hello, PiCo.

Are you satisfied with the changes Johncoz made? Have the article's problems been corrected?

There's no right or wrong answer (though I somewhat hope for an affirmative one). I feel I gave you my word and would be perfectly happy to keep it. Cheers. SamEV (talk) 18:58, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

OK. I'm about to check my watchlist, and will read Goldingay's article later this evening. SamEV (talk) 19:43, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Had I known it was just four pages I'd have read it that afternoon (Google Books' table of contents for the book () mislead me into believing it was 26 pages). It's an interesting essay, indeed. Interesting conclusion. It led me to further hours of research, though unrelated to Abraham, which holds out promise. So thank you for that. I agree that there's no harm in discussing the story's stylistics or literary art. SamEV (talk) 13:39, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Yahweh

Yesterday's rewrite by Michael Courtney (talk · contribs) seems to have removed almost all of the useful historical perspective you had built up. Will you be contesting it? Jheald (talk) 12:25, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough. I've made a reasoned revert myself, because I hope the article will continue to build on input from all informed quarters, including I hope your continued very valuable contribution, in an ongoing properly collegiate editing process. Jheald (talk) 13:06, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

No-one Disputes These Two Things

PiCo, you clarified one of your recent edits as "So far as I know no-one disputes these two things." However, for many of those who dispute the "Yahweh" vocalization, the first item is frequently part of the heart of their dispute (they claim that the vowels are not from Adonay or Elohîm). Your edit removes the "it is believed that" out of the text saying " it is believed that Jewish scholars used the vowel signs of the Hebrew words Adonai or Elohim as the vowels for YHWH ". While the previous mainly supports the idea of the vowels indeed being substitutes (which is the current scholarly consensus), it leaves enough room not to totally miff the non-Yahweh groups (I think it is almost safe to say that Seeker is part of that group). :P

As for the second item, Theodoret reported in the 5th c AD that the Samaritans called their God Iαβε (Yabe), however some modern Samaritans dispute that "Yabe" is their pronunciation of YHWH, but rather (inline with Jews saying Adonai or haShem) the word they used to avoid pronouncing the name of God, its meaning being "Beautiful " (יפה — Samaritan pronunciation is a bit different from Hebrew). I think that, the DSS scholar, Nehemia Gordon also advocates this stance.

It is partly on these two things that I made the qualifications to the text that you undid (to allow minor acknowledgment for those who do dispute this issue). — al-Shimoni (talk) 09:32, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Slightly confused. :) Looking at the history diff you have commented as 'reverting self' (adding back the "As a result " bit) looked ok to me before-hand (either direction on that one is fine). The part I was pointing at was the edits with the 'So far as I know' edit-comment where you removed the phrase "it is believed" and the word "reported" from the text. Hopefully I'm not being too much of a pain. :P — al-Shimoni (talk) 11:58, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Table

Similar ones on various other articles. I haven't followed up, have you deal with the verification issue I asked about after I deleted the subscription only blog references? Dougweller (talk) 10:46, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Replied on my talk page about the verification, too lazy to copy over, sorry. Dougweller (talk) 16:54, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Bible and history

Hi there! Don't know if you've looked but I'm about half-way through a complete rewrite of this article. I'm having to take a break for a week or so (work, moving house, etc) but intend to return to it then. But there is still plenty to do, and if some other people had some time .... Regards, John —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johncoz (talk • contribs) 00:47, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Your PROctol citation...

How'd you come up with this stuff!!!? Please post P. R. Octol, "Normative Sexual Customs of the Arabs", Journal of British and Imperial Medical Practise, Vol.12/1, pp.174-186, on Talk:Anal_sex or your edit will be removed and you may be blocked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.204.252.219 (talk) 02:22, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Solomon's temple

If you are still around, could you see my comment on the talk page about the claim that secular historians date it to (whatever). Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 06:55, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Khirbet Qeiyafa

Being edits by almost certain socks, Reargun's sock account has been confirmed and blocked, I think these IPs are also socks but the Check user declined to comment on the IP first editing, the two IPs are both from the Israeli Embassy in Ottawa and I'll take this to ANI. Dougweller (talk) 06:25, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Myth

Pico, thanks for being WP:BOLD with the definition. I know it's being challenged, but what else is new? Hope things are going well for you over "there." ─AFA Prof01 (talk) 05:55, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism Warning

Source and Text Deletion Please stop. If you continue to blank out or delete portions of page content, templates or other materials from Misplaced Pages, as you did to Genesis creation myth, you will be blocked from editing. Deadtotruth (talk) 21:38, 27 February 2010 (UTC)