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Re: Awaiting a verdict on the 3rd U.S. Infantry Regiment article

Actually, it means that I'm the project's most glorified paper-pusher; but we'll just ignore that point. ;-)

I have no problems with moving it to the official name of the unit; you may want to insert a footnote into the article after the name to indicate that it is, in fact, the correct order, so that future editors don't feel compelled to fix it. Personally, I think we should expand out the abbreviation (3rd United States Infantry Regiment), but I'll leave that up to your discretion. In the long term, I think we're going to have to try and come up with some actually usable guideline for how to name these articles, reconciling the use of official names with a sensible placement of "United States" when it's inserted for disambiguation purposes; but that's a rather broader issue. Kirill Lokshin 02:47, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Congrats on winning the war against inaccuracy! I'd been following the ongoing battle over the 3d U.S. Infantry Regiment for months, but it always raised my blood pressure too much and I figured I'd wind up saying something that would get me banned, so I tried to stay away from it. Props to you for sticking with it until a correct consensus was reached. --ScreaminEagle 16:25, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, hopefully this title will prevail... it is Misplaced Pages, so it's not set in stone. I just wish that people could understand how important this stuff is to those of us who served, you know? Some people get so caught up in standards and formats that they don't want to look at things on a case-by-case basis. And then, these same people don't even bother to read explanations as to why things are this way, no matter how detailed those explanations may be. Thanks for the vote of confidence though, and thanks for your support on the discussion page too. Ryecatcher773 17:36, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Given new developments, I certainly hope you contribute to the latest argument over this at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history#The_Old_Guard. --ScreaminEagle 22:33, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Battle of Fallen Timbers

I have a question about this article and I was wondering if you had the answer. I've been going through and correcting the redirects/dabs for the 3d US Infantry to reflect the correct name and new correct article title. I came across this article and I'm afraid I don't know enough about that time period to make an accurate decision about the name inside the unit box. I'm assuming that 3d Infantry Regiment is the 3d U.S. Infantry Regiment (if not, then we have to find which regiment they're talking about and redirect it there) since it was in existence back then of course, but I'm not sure if it's appropriate to change the name to reflect the U.S. portion of the name. When did the 3d add the U.S. to its name? Was it during the Civil War or was it there from the beginning? If it didn't change until later, I'm tempted to leave the name in that article as is to reflect the name of the unit at that time. What are your thoughts? --ScreaminEagle 17:37, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

So far as I know, The Old Guard was still the 1st Regiment in 1794... which is to say that it wasn't the 3rd US Infantry yet... or even the 3rd Infantry. I know that the battle was fought in what is now part of Ohio, and that it seems likely that it was a militia regiment from somewhere near or garrisoned in the Northwest Territories would have supplied this particular occurrence of '3rd Regt.'. Sorry I can't be of more help, but I will look further and see if I can come back with a more substantial answer. Ryecatcher773 00:09, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Ohio State Buckeyes football

Recently this article received a "peer review script" examination and mention was made of GA and FA status (Talk: Ohio State Buckeyes football). I invite you to help complete the article and with a little luck and hard work maybe someone will take notice and nominate it for FA (I am not into self-nom for reasons your own "statement of purpose" makes clear). Even if that doesn't happen, the quality of the article itself will improve and make it a showcase for Buckeye football. The history from 1975 to the present is lacking, and in particular we need enthusiastic but encyclopedic writers for the Cooper and Tressl eras. Ultimately I think the History of Ohio State Football will become a main article in its own right. My goal is to get the article "completed" (but far from "finished") by January 8. If you can help, please do, and GO BUCKS. --Buckboard 06:57, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

A Christmas Story

I just want to say, nice job on your edits of the section on A Christmas Story House. Well done! Karen | Talk | contribs 02:30, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Sorry, I've been really bad at getting in here and replying to my messages. I had actually been hoping to keep that section in the main article, but as it went, a separate article ended up being needed. Happy New Year! Ryecatcher773 04:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

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Flags on Palin

If you can take that much trouble to construct a response you deserve the flag be kept! I did quote the essay as a guideline, not wikipolicy, but, yes, it is just an essay. Take care. --Steve (Slf67) 05:21, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Steve. Ryecatcher773 06:04, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

ICF

Cheers for the message, no problem! And I fully agree with the reasoning for your initial edit with the article as it was full of weasel words and clear POV. I had tried adding citation tags to no avail, and it did need a big clean up. Have fun! ♦Tangerines BFC ♦·Talk 23:33, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Angband and disambiguation

I understand what Stemonitis is getting at with regards to his questioning what should be disambiguated. However, I whole heartedly dispute his claim that the game Angband is more relevant in current usage than the place named in Tolkien's work. Although no one else from the game article camp seems to be weighing in on the debate, it would seem that a poll may be needed to reach an agreement. Yes, I realize that in the scope of things, that this is completely a matter of minutiae, but to those of us who have spent the majority of their life (which is, in my case, about 28 of 35 years) reading, researching and studying Tolkien's work as well as the analysis and criticism thereof, I find the issue quite irritating and borderline offensive. The game in question isn't even a game licensed for sale from what I can tell. It's a low-fi game done by someone with a basic knowledge of how to code, on par with what someone might create for a 100-level college computer programming class final project. I'd be surprised to find that any permission was even asked for (or granted) by Tolkien's estate to use the name Angband for the game. And there is a debate on its importance/relevance on Misplaced Pages? Not to mention versus one of the greatest writers of the 20th century? Ryecatcher773 18:12, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

In case I wasn't clear, I do agree that Angband should be what's currently at Angband (Middle-earth). Honestly I wouldn't mind the status quo either (using a dab page with both listed). The point of contention is "What are people more likely to be looking for?", and there is no easy answer to that in this case.
Being a Tolkien scholar, would you help expand the article? I have read The Silmarillion but I am sure it appears in the Histories also. It's probably in The Children of Hurin also (which I own but have not read yet!). --Fang Aili 19:17, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Contact

Hey RC773,

Email me via my userpage, will ya? I have email options enabled. --ScreaminEagle 20:54, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

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If you agree to mediation, I only ask that you demand my mandatory joinder as a party, as I see the caller's (1) failure to include me and (2) failure to include my talk page CMH citation showing the 19th century use/approval of 3rd United States Infantry Regiment by the general in command of the Army at the time as forming the basis of any allegation against you of NPOV violation. If you agree to mediation but cannot effect my inclusion, then feel free to look up and use the CMH source I cited on the article talk page. Hotfeba 23:55, 30

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UPDATE: I have put the shortest form of my position regarding the first point of mediation (the official name of the unit in question) at the end of my talk page, including related citations of Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Military history/Style guide#Military units and formations. It's fairly short, it adheres to current MILHIST style, and it does not require changes to that style for agreement. Unless I am mistaken, this in combination with the citations from AR 600-82, AR 220-1, AR 220-5, and The Army of the United States (1896) are persuasive. Hotfeba 06:37, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

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You forgot to say if you oppose the page move or not--just a friendly reminder.--ScreaminEagle 00:17, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Cleveland

I thought that "Jew" could signify ethnicity or religious affiliation while "Judaism" specifically referred to the religion? Robert K S (talk) 23:28, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I just added a bit on that to the discussion page on the Cleveland article. Ethnic Jewry has mixed contexts, and is debatable accordingly. In any case, the Jewish community in the Cleveland area is overwhelmingly located in the suburbs, not in the city (the article mentions 'substantial' ethnic populations. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 23:38, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, I can't disagree with that. I've never known any inner-city Jews here. Robert K S (talk) 03:11, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for supporting my argument. The irony is, when there was one, the Jewish community in Cleveland (particularly in Glenville) was quite distinguished. Another sign of the times, however: even the Jews in Cleveland Heights particularly along S.Taylor Road, has started to move further out -- Lax & Mandel's, a cornerstone of local Jewish bakeries for years (and of national fame to boot), has relocated a few miles to the northeast, to South Euclid just in the past year. I don't think User:LooDog will care much though -- he's not even a Clevelander from what I can see from his user page.

FYI, you're seeing addresses on the Heights pop up as being in Cleveland due to an old ZIP Code format that included some of the border suburbs as being part of the city for some reason -- South Euclid, where I grew up, is 44121, which shares a splinter of a border with the city and also comes up as Cleveland. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 06:20, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Chicago Park District

I'll try to pep the article up a bit when I get the chance, but do you have any ideas?--Orestek (talk) 06:28, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Tolkein

My feelings on the matter are, I would say, identical to your own. I deleted "traditional" because it is, quite simply, repetitive. And, yes, conciseness is, I would agree, a virtue in almost all writing, certainly writing of an encyclopædic nature. I would be more than happy to argue the point with this other editor. Thanks for your message. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 23:31, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

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OH FOR THE LOVE

Should we be holding an annual picnic for this event or something?!

I am glad to see it hasn't moved back yet. Perhaps your implied warning did the trick. --ScreaminEagle (talk) 20:59, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah a picnic for sure, but if Tiki shows up, I wouldn't eat the potato salad he brings. ;-)
I'm not sure if the current move has gone unnoticed or not.. so I'm taking a wait and see approach. I'm not sure why it's really so hard for people to understand that not everything can be forced into a standard format (or,why it's so hard to read the history documented on the talk page first, before making moves). We'll just have to wait and see I reckon.Ryecatcher773 (talk) 00:19, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Wait, you're suggesting people should read before doing? I think that's asking just a bit much, don't you?
If Tiki shows up to our picnic I'm going to drive the entire thing, picnic blanket, grill, and all, straight into the river. No picnic for you, Tiki!! --ScreaminEagle (talk) 18:45, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

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Thomas Paine

Hi Ryecatcher773 – Thanks for your response re Thomas. Having looked at the recent history, I do wonder if we may indeed be taking on too much!

Articles like this do tend to attract those with an axe (or ax) to grind! The only way of dealing with them is, in my experience, to wait and hope that they go away. Doesn't always work, though! We'll see – I'd like to get a few other friendly and experienced editors on board first, I think. Cheers – Agendum (talk) 17:06, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Plagiarism

Hi, you might want to look over WP:PLAG with respect to the Statue of Freedom‎ article. I think the point is that if there is no copyright violation, then you should leave the text in place, add an attribution, and that is good. If I misunderstood and you think there is a copyright violation, please undo my readding of the material ASAP. PDBailey (talk) 18:31, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello. Having glanced at your user page, I see that you are a mathematician, which is something I am in awe of -- the extent of my math education is limited to basic algebra and geometry. However, I do hold a degree in English, so I've spent quite a bit of time writing papers and reading style manuals -- more than many editors you'll come across on WP. I can assure you, at UIC, the first class meeting to begin every semester (in English and Social Studies classes anyway) begins with a required disclosure on the definitions and resulting penalties for plagiarism. 'Cutting and pasting' text, so far as its usage here, is absolutely plagiarism -- whether or not it is cited. Using pieces of other writings (e.g. lines of verse, paragraphs from historical documents) appropriately in quotes are acceptable. But this case is a completely different matter completely. The body of the text in the Statue of Freedom article was lifted in large chunks. You can look at the MLA or Chicago Manual of Style, or just ask anyone employed by a college English department. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 01:27, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Why don't you take a peek at section 7, how to respond. PDBailey (talk) 14:31, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I realize that you think you are on the side of justice, and I can even understand where you are coming from, and why this affronts you so much. However, I implore you to take some time to familiarize yourself with the Misplaced Pages policy on plagiarism WP:PLAG before you edit the page again. Please do this as a kindness to me, your fellow editor, if for no other reason. I guess the basic point is that I think the policy is on my side here (and if you disagree, that is great, please do!) but if you do not disagree with the policy then I think you should take that up on the policy's page, not on this article's page--because the policy is applied across Misplaced Pages, not just on this one article. Finally, as a lecturer at a university, I understand why this type of writing would be grossly inappropriate and (one hopes) severely punished were a student to turn it in. However, the world is not a university, and Misplaced Pages articles are not assignments. PDBailey (talk) 18:14, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Don't fix links to redirects that aren't broken

Re: this edit, right after your previous edit of the same link had been undone with a edit summary pointing out WP:NOTBROKEN. Please do not "fix" links to redirects that are not broken. -- JHunterJ (talk) 18:56, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: 3rd US Infantry naming convention problems... again

Hello, Ryecatcher773. You have new messages at Kirill Lokshin's talk page.
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Chicago Meetup and update

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Opinion needed!

As a frequent editor of American politics, I would appreciate if you put your two cents into the debate over the conservative support for President Obama in Talk:Public image of Barack Obama. Thanks.--Jerzeykydd (talk) 22:57, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

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