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DocuSign

I went ahead and moved the article to the mainspace after making some fixes. I hope the issues you felt existed have now been dealt with. J Milburn (talk) 19:35, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Reverted images on Maui Mallard

I'm sorry about changing the boxart, but there was a very simple reason I did it. Originally, that page was headed up by an image of the European box art for the game, under the filename 'maui europe.jpg'. Since the standard on Misplaced Pages seems to be to use the American box art, even if the game was made somewhere else, I uploaded the American box art as 'mauimallard.jpg' and made that the head of the page. The next editor wanted to change it back, but instead of switching the files, he actually re-uploaded the European boxart to mauimallard.jpg, my file, and left the page as it was. So, not wanting to start an edit war on the page, I switched my file back to its original state and placed maui europe.jpg on the page in a thumbnail, as a compromise. Instead, the user removed maui europe.jpg from the page and changed my file again. So, I finally gave up, changed my file back to the American cover art, and made maui europe.jpg the top picture on the page. I didn't mean to cause any trouble, I just didn't appreciate having my image changed for no reason. Master Deusoma (talk) 08:24, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Goodness, I'm sorry I must have misread the image page history. Yeah that should be OK, but I would definitely advise placing a notice on that user's page, and placing notification on the administrator's noticeboard if the issue continues. There are always two sides to a story but yours sounds OK now. Magog the Ogre (talk) 08:40, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Dear Magog

Regarding images, I sent you a few messages within the template I received. You have not seen them probably. Please visit this page to resolve the issue (and also my talk page) http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Airplaneman Maybe you can clarify it with Airplaneman. Some of these photographs are already licensed under CCO 1.0 Universal at the Internet Archives. I don’t know how to add the tag now since photographs are already downloaded but I think the appropriate tag would be CCO 1.0 Universal for those already licensed and –Release into public domain. Best regards, Mountlovcen8 (talk) 23:04, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

I've responded at User talk:Airplaneman. Magog the Ogre (talk) 00:52, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my user page. --Footwarrior (talk) 21:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

copyright for File:John_Y._Barlow.jpg

I indicated that I do not know how to find the copyright information. I included a link to the source where I found the photo. Hopefully you or someone else can get the correct copywrite information. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pacohaas (talk • contribs) 21:44, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

I've added what I could on this instance; if you have any further questions let me know, or drop by the help desk for more immediate assistance. Magog the Ogre (talk) 21:56, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

RE: File copyright problem with File:AWhite Ramshackled.jpg

Hi Magog.

I forgot to add a copyright tag. I just did. If you still see a problem, (http://en.wikipedia.org/File:AWhite_Ramshackled.jpg) just tell me or add that tag again and I'll try to fix it. thanks.

--Andy (talk) 21:47, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

It looks good to me at first glance. Magog the Ogre (talk) 21:56, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Financial Institution footprint data

Hey Magog. I saw all these bank footprint maps you made, and am just wondering where the data from these came from, how the png's were compiled, etc.

(sorry if this is not the correct way to message, I couldn't figure out another way) Rufuswu (talk) 21:45, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

This is the correct way to message! I think I'm going to have to create a FAQ or something, I've had a good number of questions about it: see User_talk:Magog_the_Ogre/Archive_2#Hey_Magog--I.27m_a_big_fan. First off, I created a list of every zip code in the country and its corresponding latitude/longitude. Then I get the branch information off the FDIC, and compare the zip code and create circles on an svg location map. I convert the map to png by hand by use of GIMP. Magog the Ogre (talk) 22:52, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Ah - thanks. In this case, much thanks/respect for coding this (even though you it "didn't take much time"). I've worked with zip/lat/lon databases before, wouldn't know the first thing about being able to plot those onto an SVG though. The thing I'm working on right now is a comparison of footprints for major retail banks (pretty much the top 10-ish by FDIC deposits). I'm guessing that if you could send me the original SVGs for the maps you've already made, I could load them into illustrator, merge the dots for each institution onto the same background, color code them, and then have a pretty cool idea of how they overlap. Do you think you'd have time to help out with this (it's for a work presentation and would be nice to have in the next day or so). Feel free to email me, I think I enabled that option but not sure where the link is, haha. Rufuswu (talk) 15:54, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't keep the maps, I generated them on the fly. Which banks were you looking for? I can create a) a rough map of the entire US (minus AK/HI/territories) with state borders, b) a high detail map of the US (minus AK/HI/territories) with county lines, or c) individual states (including AK/HI/territories). I just need a rough idea of what you would like. Magog the Ogre (talk) 19:31, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

If you have time, a rough map of the 48 contiguous states with state lines would be perfect. The main banks I'm looking at are: Bank of America, US Bank, Wells Fargo, TCF, Chase, Citi, Fifth/Third, PNC. If possible, it would also be nice to have these regional ones, since they might actually overlap more: Regions Bank, Key Bank, Union Bank, Bank of the West, Harris Bank. Thanks a ton! Rufuswu (talk) 21:28, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Here you are: . I made the dot size universal for all the maps, you might want to tinker with it (I do whenever I do uploads) - you can do that in Inkscape or a find/replace of the raw text. Also, I'm not buying a Rapidshare account, so you only have 10 downloads. Magog the Ogre (talk) 11:10, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Words cannot describe how awesome this is! Thank you again. 70.13.118.44 (talk) 17:10, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

SoFixIt :)

Now it is :) He's moved on to more substantial disruption), and doesn't appear to have learned anything from his recent block ... one can always hope! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 06:03, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, ValenShephard has been a single purpose editor since s/he arrived, the purpose being to push a left-wing POV (left-wing from the standpoint of Latin America). I find it jaw-droppingly ironic that s/he "cannot take your opinion too much to heart because you have revealed your partisan stance and desire to 'balance'". To be honest, I haven't held much hope for her/him from the beginning: if one's desire is to push a point of view, Misplaced Pages is most definitely not the place for such an editor. An RFC is probably the place to go at this point, and you would be as good as I at creating one. Magog the Ogre (talk) 15:26, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to be mostly offline for at least two weeks, and will see if anything has changed when I have more free time after that. Unfortunately, as a new editor, he hasn't gotten a very clear message at Talk:Chavez from other editors about what is acceptable on Wiki; for some, it's convenient to look the other way when disruptive editors appear with the "right" POV. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:05, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

ha ha okay

Haha okay I thought just fact that I changed the vandalism count makes it in fact vandalism. lol --Ak169808 (talk) 05:45, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

It does! I was just picking on you ;) Magog the Ogre (talk) 07:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

RE: Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Sapphire 2010-06-02.jpg

The article this copyrighted image is used needs an image to illustrate its subject, I know you say a free equivalent could be created but there is none here and somebody can't just go to Greece and take a picture of the ship. Please tell me how I can edit the rationale so that it could stay on Misplaced Pages. 1Matt20 (talk) 23:50, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Our policies on Misplaced Pages are such that we don't accept fair use images of living subjects or buildings/objects which are still standing. I realize I've gone through your uploads and I really do apologize for having to do that, and I'm sorry about any frustration I've caused on the issue. However, the policy is such because such an image could in the future be snapped by someone in Greece, whether a Flickr user with an appropriate license, or the US military, or a Grecian Misplaced Pages user. As much as it's an inconvenience, it's done on Misplaced Pages's part in order to maximize free usage as much as possible. As such, we probably can't accept any image of these objects right now. I would actually encourage you to post at help desk if you want a second opinion on this, but I'm fairly familiar with this distinction of Misplaced Pages image policy. If you have any other questions or comments, please do respond to me. Magog the Ogre (talk) 23:54, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

So is there basically no way to keep it here? 1Matt20 (talk) 00:04 , 20 August 2010 (UTC)

As a non-free image, that's right. We have a lot of articles that don't have images as a result. One thing you can do is under the "external links" section link to any sites that have non-free images, hopefully created by the very sites you're linking to. Magog the Ogre (talk) 00:07, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

I thought there would be a possibility of keeping it due to another image, a picture of a ship which doesn't even HAVE a fair use rationale that's gone un noticed for five years... *sighs* 1Matt20 (talk) 00:18, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Where is it? Does the ship still exist? Magog the Ogre (talk) 00:38, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

One thing you can consider doing is writing to the original authors by email and asking them to release the images under {{cc-by-2.0}} or {{cc-by-sa-2.0}}. Magog the Ogre (talk) 00:39, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

No the ship in the picture File:JVO sea.JPG in the article TSMS Lakonia I talked about on my last postdoes not exist, meaning I guess it could be allowed... and the MS Sapphire does exist. I have emailed ship parade.com asking for their permission on File:Sapphire 2010-06-02.jpg. I have also emailed the owners of the other two pictures of mine you nominated for deletion (yay) who gave me permission. 1Matt20 (talk) 01:00, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

OK great, hopefully you'll get permission. There's a whole week before it will be deleted, and once you get the email to OTRS, they'll tag it properly. As for the one that does not have the ship exist, feel free to remove the fair use disputed tag, and make a note of that under the "irreplaceability" section. BTW, the image you just showed me is legitimate, but it lacks a fair use rationale; I've tagged it for deletion, although someone will probably fix it soon (I'm still learning about our tools to add such a rationale quickly). Magog the Ogre (talk) 01:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Do I just forward the email proving permission to that wiki email, or what do I say along with it? 1Matt20 (talk) 01:20, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes: when you get the email back from the responder, forward it to the OTRS address. Hopefully the responder left your question under the quotation part of the email: if not, you might want to include a copy of the message you sent as well. Thanks! Magog the Ogre (talk) 01:23, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

The article RMS Georgic (1932) had a non free use image on it until one could be found, and the non free image was subsequently deleted. Could we keep it until a free image can be found? 1Matt20 (talk) 01:20, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

The only image on that article is free use. It was uploaded by commons:User:Rx 100e and claimed to be his own work, however dubious that may be (I'm not sure how he managed to go back to 1930 and snap the photo). Magog the Ogre (talk) 01:39, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

In fact, every one of that user's uploads is suspicious, and I may take a look into them at a later point. Magog the Ogre (talk) 01:41, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

I just mean it should keep on the article until a free image can be found, I've seen this concept, and I've seen non free images, many, many times. The people who gave me permission for the two pictures have emailed that permissions email. I doubt ship parade will respond. There is another website, once/if File:Sapphire 2010-06-02.jpg is done for, I could ask to use their picture. 1Matt20 (talk) 13:41, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

I can understand your frustration; in fact many disagree with it. Misplaced Pages's fair use policy is stricter than US fair use policy (so far as I can tell): but it comes straight from founder of the project himself, so it's pretty non-negotiable. And by messaging the website authors, you're doing a great service for the project, by the way. And if you ever catch a non-free image up and it looks to be replaceable, let me know, and I will tag it. I don't see it as often as you do on existing articles; perhaps I'm reading the wrong articles. Magog the Ogre (talk) 19:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

When could the deletion tags for the Kyle images be removed now that the people who gave me permission e-mailed wiki? 1Matt20 (talk) 15:12, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't handle that earlier, I'd forgotten about our {{OTRS pending}} tag. Go ahead and mark any of the images that you've forwarded the email for with {{OTRS pending}} and remove the deletion tags. I'd do it for you, but I'm still unclear on which emails you sent to OTRS. If you don't see the images tagged by an OTRS user within a few weeks, then let me know, because something is up - either you sent the email to the wrong address, or they're really backed up and I didn't know it. Magog the Ogre (talk) 22:28, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Mort Walker

This template has been altered to expand the rationale. Pepso2 (talk) 00:32, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

The lack of notations on the rationale itself wasn't the problem; it was using a non-free image to demonstrate the appearance of a living person, which is against our fair use guidelines. Magog the Ogre (talk) 00:41, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Actually, it's not the appearance of a living person. It's the perception of that person by himself, as is the case with all self-portraits. I view this as quite different from "the appearance of a living person", although I'm sure many would disagree. Pepso2 (talk) 01:04, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Under the infobox, where we usually put a photo of the person on the article, I'm fairly certain it will not do. You might be able to get away with the photo somewhere else as demonstrating "the perception of that person by himself" - but that's iffy too. If done properly, you could use the photo if you are using it to demonstrate the appearanace of his artwork, as no one can create a free equivalent of his work. Magog the Ogre (talk) 01:09, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Moved image from infobox to main copy area. Pepso2 (talk) 01:24, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

I've updated the rationale as well. If you have any other questions, let me know, or for a more timely response, you can try the help desk. Magog the Ogre (talk) 01:27, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

National Cartoon Museum

Re: museumofcartoonart.jpg: The Museum of Cartoon Art building was described as being "dilapidated" 34 years ago. Looking at Comly Avenue on Google Maps, it's evident that this building has since been destroyed. Since it no longer exists, no "free use image" can be created. Pepso2 (talk) 01:04, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

OK, I've removed the deletion tag; in the future, you might want to make sure you include that information under the "replaceability" section. Apologies for any inconvenience. Magog the Ogre (talk) 01:06, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Photos

Hello Magog, thanks for promptly removing the deletion tag you put on File:Dejan Stojanović and Prince Nicholas Petrović Njegoš of Montenegro.jpg once the source was added :). I am currently fixing up the others, referring to the information given here. Could you please take a look at the following, to which I have added the {{Information}} template?

• File:Dejan Stojanovic, Chicago.jpg
• File:Dejan Stojanovic, 1981.jpg
• File:Dejan Stojanovic 21.jpg

I'm not the most experienced with files, so if I missed anything, can you please post at the thread above so the user I'm collaborating with can provide any other information that may be needed? Thank you, Airplaneman ✈ 17:49, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

OK, I've done it! For the first image, we had to change the license to comply with the webpage where it came from. As fo the other two images, do you personally know Marko Rakočević or Vuko Rakočević? And do they approve of the license you've put up? This information would be helpful under the "author" section. Magog the Ogre (talk) 19:01, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Mountlovcen8 says he does know them personally, and they approve. Is there any specific template to use for that, or do I just put "approved by (name)" next to the author's name? Thanks for your help, Airplaneman ✈ 02:52, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

For professional photographs and photographs online, we use {{subst:npd}}. However, if it's a family or friend, there's really no way for the Wikimedia foundation to verify the identity of the original uploader and contact that person (we'd have the contact the uploader, ask for the alternate email of that friend, which could just as easily be forged by the original uploader). As such, our practice is to just let it be, with a notation that these people specified this license exactly (not "this person allowed me to upload it to Misplaced Pages") under the permission or authorship section of the information tag. Magog the Ogre (talk) 03:07, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

And done for File:Dejan Stojanovic, 1981.jpg and File:Dejan Stojanović and Prince Nicholas Petrović Njegoš of Montenegro.jpg. Thanks again, Airplaneman ✈ 03:26, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Dear Magog, I wanted to thank you personally for cooperating and helping us resolve the issue with images. My apologies for making you work more than needed and for any inconvenience this may have produced. Best regards, Mountlovcen8 (talk) 03:22, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Dear Magog,

I told Airplanman that there are still those words – candidate for speedy deletion – under the second and the third photograph in the article. He said they will be removed after the article is published. I still thought it would be good to remind you and kindly ask if they can be removed. This is the link to the article – http://en.wikipedia.org/Dejan_Stojanovi%C4%87 The problem is fixed and I am just trying to make sure that this will not be overlooked; these words, under the photographs, would produce confusion when readers read the article. Best regards, Mountlovcen8 (talk) 20:59, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I've removed that; the only reason those captions even exist is as a warning to the users who read that article; they don't actually serve to tag the image for the deletion process, like the actual tags do on the images themselves. Once an issue like this is fixed in the future, you can always go ahead and just remove that yourself. Magog the Ogre (talk) 22:23, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I understand. Thank you. Best regards, Mountlovcen8 (talk) 01:58, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

The Amazing Adventures of Eco Boy, Volume 2.jpg

I used the book cover tag and linked it to the source (publishing house). Is that enough? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakkan (talk • contribs) 08:43, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, you're right, it's there; most often the license is placed in a different section from the rationale, so it threw me for a loop. I'll remove the tag, my bad. Magog the Ogre (talk) 08:46, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

User:Musicboy22

I blocked this guy for a month. For future reference, please be aware that if you make a report to ANI, you're supposed to inform any users involved (I mentioned it to Musicboy in my block message). If you find that he still doesn't get the message, I'd be happy to block indef. Blood Red Sandman 19:29, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

I didn't know that. Is it written somewhere or just an unwritten rule? Magog the Ogre (talk) 21:02, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's written in the big box at the top of ANI. I wouldn't worry; lots of people miss it. Part of the problem is that the box is too damn big... Blood Red Sandman 22:12, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

I read over the whole thing and couldn't find it. After you typed something, I found "You must notify any user who is the subject of a discussion. You may use {{subst:ANI-notice}} to do so.". Apparently, I just needed to ask a stupid question before I could find the obvious answer. C'est la vie. ;) Magog the Ogre (talk) 22:37, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

File:TheModernReview 1935Jan DP.jpg

This image is from 1934 - as per Indian copyright rules - 60 yrs is the protection period - so it is PD —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pramanick (talk • contribs) 05:48, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I've reread the text of the law - I originally assumed it was 60 years after death, but it looks like that is only for artistic works, not photographs. I'm also going to tag it as free in the US. Thanks for notifying me. Magog the Ogre (talk) 06:18, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

RE: File source and copyright licensing problem with File:Snagfilmslogo.jpg

I don't know where to find the copyright information for File:Snagfilmslogo.jpg. Can you or someone else help me find it or add the necessary info for the file? The URL is provided. Ultimately, all I am looking for is the Snagfilms logo so if it is easier to find copyright info on a different file/website that is fine, as long as it is the same image. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aekenned (talk • contribs) 15:02, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

This process will be considerably easier once you've moved the article into the main space, as then we can claim fair use on the article. Are you going to do this in the next few days? If so, please let me know when, and I'll make sure to fix up the images. Magog the Ogre (talk) 00:53, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

False allegation of non-neutrality

Do not anymore make any allegations of non-neutrality, unless you can point out what is incorrect.