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A fact from Horst Mahler appeared on Misplaced Pages's Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 November 2007. The text of the entry was as follows: Did you know... that German lawyer Horst Mahler had for his own lawyer the future Chancellor of Germany Gerhard Schröder? A record of the entry may be seen at Misplaced Pages:Recent additions/2007/November.

What is microeconomic law?

The text mentions microeconomic law. What is that? Geo8rge (talk) 22:04, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Inclusion in WikiProject Judaism?

I do not think he should be in WikiProject Judaism. Geo8rge (talk) 22:07, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

sds

I always thought all members of the sds were expelled from the spd automatically. "You cannot have it both ways" and that was it.--Radh (talk) 06:56, 1 August 2009 (UTC) It seems the SPD had established a new student organization (for anticommunist socialist students) before membership in the SDS was declared un-SPD-ig. So the more "right-wing" SPD students still had a place to go and all the others could safely be thrown out.--Radh (talk) 17:10, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

kpd/ao

I have inserted a sentence or two, to show there was some time and development of ideas between his raf activities and the npd. There also seems to have been some cooperation between the Berlin founded, then Ruhrgebiet based kpd (kpd/ao) and grassroots nationalrevolutionary groups. I do not know if Mahler was already involved in these "Querfront" activities, but militant anti-russian maoism surely was an ideological bridge towards the future for H. M.--Radh (talk) 17:25, 1 August 2009 (UTC).

reasons for incarceration

The reasons for incarceration should be stipulated more clearly. Is it true that he's in prison just for expressing his beliefs? --41.19.24.65 (talk) 09:04, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

No, it is not true. He is in prison under the criminal offence of Volksverhetzung. --Insert coins (talk) 11:04, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Which in fact is nothing else but expressing certain beliefs that some minority does not like. So yes, he is in prison just for expressing his beliefs. As are many others by the way.62.226.23.179 (talk) 20:16, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Not, it is not. Volksverhetzung is defined, inter allia, as calling for violence to be committed against a group of people. This is not an opinion, but a crime. Of course, by the way you argument I assume you would be very comfortable with violence being committed against a certain group of people, that is to say, the Jews. Would you like violence to be committed againt the group *you* belong to? --Insert coins (talk) 20:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Quote

The quote

The destruction of Jews is an act of reason... Billions of people would be ready to forgive Hitler if only he had committed the murder of the Jews" ("In der Vernichtung der Juden waltet Vernunft...Milliarden Menschen wären bereit, Hitler zu verzeihen, wenn er nur den Judenmord begangen hätte")

gives the impression that it comes from the same sentence or paragraph while in fact it is an incorrectly quoted construction of parts of sentences that are eleven pages (!) apart. Here is what Mahler actually wrote:

Damit war ich von der elenden moralischen Geschichtsbetrachtung erlöst und fähig geworden, den Gedanken zu denken, daß in der Vernichtung der Juden Vernunft waltet ebenso wie in der Vernichtung der Ureinwohner Amerikas oder der Entvölkerung Afrikas durch die Jüdischen Sklavenhändler mit schätzungsweise 100 bis 150 Millonen gewaltsam beendeter Menschenleben.

— Horst Mahler, Das Ende der moralischen Geschichtsbetrachtung führt zur Antwort auf die Judenfrage, p.7

Milliarden von Menschen wären bereit, Hitler und dem Deutschen Volk den Völkermord an den Juden zu verzeihen, wenn er ihn denn begangen hätte, nur weil sie sich keine andere Lösung der Judenfrage vorstellen können, als die Ermordung der Juden.

— Horst Mahler, Das Ende der moralischen Geschichtsbetrachtung führt zur Antwort auf die Judenfrage, p.19

This roughly translates to:

And with that I was released from the wretched moral view of history and put into the position to think the thought that reason is at work in the destruction of the Jews, just as in the destruction of the aborigines of America or the depopulation of Africa through jewish slave traders with estimated 100 to 150 million forcefully ended human lifes.

— p.7

Billions of people would be ready to forgive Hitler and the German peoples the genocide of the Jews, if only he had committed it, just because they can't imagine another solution to the jewish question than to murder the Jews.

— p.19

This is an example of why newspapers are not reliable sources and I suggest that the quote be changed or removed lest Misplaced Pages becomes a mere black/grey propaganda tool. 62.226.14.154 (talk) 07:50, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

And isn't his afrocentrism funny - jewish slavers, 100, 000, 000 dead, the canard about the eradication of Native Americans is a German commonplace.--Radh (talk) 15:01, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

And the fact remains: The quote is false. Apparently you rather delete comments and make comments about texts you probably haven't read instead of assuring that Misplaced Pages does not use wrong information. 62.226.27.132 (talk) 22:31, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

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