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Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.

DYK criteria

How to list a new nomination

Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

1. Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
2. Nom with image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= | image= | caption= }}

   To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook: |article2= |article3= |article4= | (etc)

   To include more than one author: |author2= |author3= | (etc)

   To include alternate hooks: |ALT1= |ALT2= | (etc)

   To add a comment: |comment=

   To add the article you reviewed: |reviewed=

Do not wikilink the article title, or the author username field; the template will wikilink them automatically. Do wikilink the article title in the hook field, however.
Do not add a section heading if you are using the template; the template will add one for you.
Do not include a signature (~~~~) after the template.
Do not use non-free images in your hook suggestion.

An example of how to use the template is given below. Don't forget to fill out the rollover text, so people know what the image is of! Full details are at {{NewDYKnom}}:

{{subst:NewDYKnom
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 | hook       = ... that this ] is an  ''']''' ''(pictured)''?
 | author     = User
 | nominator  =
 | image      = Example.png
 | rollover   = An example image
 | alttext    = Description of the image
 | comment    =
}}

• Note that you should only use one of the above templates for the original hook. If you want to suggest a second, alternative hook for the same article submission, just type it in manually. The above templates output useful code for each submission and if you employ them for alternative hooks, you will mess up the page formatting.
• When saving your suggestion, please add the name of the suggested article to your edit summary.
• Please check back for comments on your nomination. Responding to reasonable objections will help ensure that your article is listed.
• If you nominate someone else's article, you can use {{subst:DYKNom}} to notify them. Usage: {{subst:DYKNom|Article name}}

How to review a nomination

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, or may suggest new hooks. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the additional rules.

If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, please use the following symbols to point the issues out:

Symbol	Code	DYK Ready?	Description
	{{subst:DYKtick}}	Yes	No problems, ready for DYK
	{{subst:DYKtickAGF}}	Yes	Article is ready for DYK, with a foreign-language or offline hook reference accepted in good faith
	{{subst:DYK?}}	Query	DYK eligibility requires that an issue be addressed. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYK?no}}	Maybe	DYK eligibility requires additional work. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYKno}}	No	Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible

Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page, in case they do not notice that there is an issue.

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Nominations

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on October 28

Moss Eccles Tarn

• ... that the "strange, flat-bottomed boat" in which Beatrix Potter rowed on Moss Eccles Tarn (pictured) is now housed in the Windermere Steamboat Museum?

Created by J Milburn (talk). Self nom at 11:20, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Prince Friedrich Christian of Schaumburg-Lippe

• ... that Prince Friedrich Christian of Schaumburg-Lippe served as an adjutant to Joseph Goebbels in the Nazi Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda?

Created by Ruby2010 (talk) 17:40, 28 October 2010 (UTC) (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that in 1939, three Icelandic Nazi-sympathizers approached Prince Friedrich Christian of Schaumburg-Lippe with the hope of making him king of Iceland?

• Adjutant says that it is a military rank, would aide be more appropriate? Also the article uses 'privy councillor', but our Geheimrat article says that this title disappeared after 1919. Mikenorton (talk) 14:28, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• The source Royals and the Reich (p. 137) says the prince was adjutant to Goebbels, with no mention of military rank. That same source also says he was a 'privy councillor'. If you have the appropriate source, feel free to add mention that adjutant would have been a military rank, but I think further verification would be needed if you were to mention anymore about the title disappearing in 1919. Thanks, Ruby2010 (talk) 04:25, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Mikenorton - the confusion is that in some armies it's a rank, but in others it's an appointment, a job title if you like, which is performed by someone with the rank of say captain or major. Germany is one of the latter, so the use of adjutant in this case is accurate and appropriate. I think I prefer the idea of a Nazi king of Iceland, how about :
• ALT2 ... that Joseph Goebbels wanted to make his adjutant Prince Friedrich Christian of Schaumburg-Lippe the king of Iceland in the event of a Nazi invasion? Le Deluge (talk) 11:33, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 is a very interesting hook, and it checks out in the online source cited. However, I find that the relevant paragraph in the article is a WP:Close paraphrasing of the first source, which is not acceptable practice at Misplaced Pages. Here's the comparison:

Source: In 1939, three pro-Nazi Icelanders visited a German prince, Friedrich Christian zu Schaumburg-Lippe, and asked him to become the King of Iceland in case their hoped-for German takeover of Iceland materialized. The prince, a member of the Nazi Party since 1929 and an official of the Third Reich, took this request seriously and brought it to Joseph Goebbels. According to the prince's autobiography published in 1952, Goebbels liked the idea but Foreign Minister von Ribbentrop dismissed it.

Article: Three Icelandic Nazi sympathizers visited Friedrich Christian in 1939 and asked him to become king of Iceland, as they hoped that Germany would take over the small island. As the prince earnestly believed that he was on the verge of becoming king, Friedrich Christian took this request quite seriously, and brought the matter to the attention of Joseph Goebbels; the prince would later write in his autobiography Zwischen Krone und Kerker that Goebbels liked the idea but Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop was against it.

If the close paraphrasing in the article is resolved, this fact should make a very nice DYK hook. I didn't find support for ALT2, since it's not clear that "wanted" to make him king; only that he "liked the idea."

Additionally, the rest of the article needs to be checked for close paraphrasing. Also, sourcing for the Holocaust denial section of the article seems weak. Additional inline citations are needed, IMO. --Orlady (talk) 20:37, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• I think you're being unnecessarily pedantic, given that we're talking about a hypothetical situation "liked the idea" and "want" are sufficiently synonymous that the more concise version is appropriate for the purposes of making the hook tighter and more effective. People can always click through to the article if they want to look up the exact wording.Le Deluge (talk) 10:23, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• I hope you don't think I'm being "unnecessarily pedantic" regarding the issues of close paraphrasing and sourcing. BTW, I checked the other source cited in the Iceland paragraph and I find that it contains the phrasing "earnestly believed that he was on the verge of being made king." This is looking like plagiarism. --Orlady (talk) 04:35, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Plagiarism is a serious accusation, and it was never my intent to use the same sentences as the articles cited. If you or another reviewer feels I have paraphrased too closely to the cited sources, I will naturally review them and make sure I follow(ed) the proper guidelines. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Ruby2010 (talk) 02:39, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• @Orlady - read it again, did I say you were being unnecessarily pedantic on paraphrasing and sourcing? No. I was talking about your quibble of "liked the idea" versus "want", sigh.Le Deluge (talk) 16:05, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

That is a distortion of the meaning. "Liked the idea" connotes a favorable opinion of someone else's idea. "Wanted" is far stronger, suggesting it was his idea, and at least connoting advocacy. --Orlady (talk) 04:24, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

• Speaking of the paraphrasing concern, it looks like this has not yet been addressed in the article, which was last modified November 5. Unless it can get resolved today I think we need to decline this one. 28bytes (talk) 16:45, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• Made minor changes to article. Should be ready to go now. Ruby2010 (talk) 19:17, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 29

Laura Ross (politician)

• ... that Saskatchewan politician Laura Ross was, at various times, a caterer, real estate agent and farmer before her entrance into politics?

5x expanded by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 16:01, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

• Lengths and dates are OK, and I found the hook facts in the source. I have some concerns, however, about the article. The lead section contains some substantial factual information that is not in the body of the article (see WP:Lead section for guidelines on the lead) and is not supported by citations. The first two paragraphs under "Biography" are essentially a creative rewording of her bio on the Saskatchewan legislature website -- the sequence of presentation of information closely tracks the source, but with some details embellished (example: where is it stated in the source that she left the catering business when she went into real estate? -- the article says that she did catering before "her success as a realtor") or omitted (the article mentions fundraising for the Salvation Army, but not for Transition House, the Regina Therapeutic Riding Association, and the Terry Fox Fun , and it does not discuss what she has done in office in the provincial government, which IMO is more significant than catering or the Salvation Army). I'd like to see a more solid article before this goes to the main page. --Orlady (talk) 19:52, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 30

Ashleigh Grimshaw, Robbie Olivier

• ... that Robbie "The Flame" Olivier and Ashleigh "The Thunderball Kid" Grimshaw faced off at Cage Rage 27 - Step Up for the Cage Rage British Featherweight Championship?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 23:31, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

• The event refs are done, I think, but the nicknames are sourced in the infobox on the right of the article. If the nicknames need to be in the prose, please send me a talk message and I'll sort that out. Thanks. Paralympiakos (talk) 23:34, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

• The hook and the source check out, but I'm not 100% sure on this one. I'm not usually the one saying this, but how 'hooky' is this source, really? If you look through my DYK noms, I'm sure to be the last person you'd expect to say this (although mine are interesting, they're not as interesting as some that I have seen are!). Could you explain what's interesting about this one for me so I can tick it? Arctic Night 12:22, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Didn't realise we had rules about the level of interest hooks have... Anyway, any fans of MMA will know these two and the organisation, so it'll draw them to these new articles. They also have interesting nicknames that may garner some small interest. Paralympiakos (talk) 13:01, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Comment: Things put on MainPage are meant for a general audience, not just fans of any particular sports. If there is a hook that would appeal to a wider readership, it would be great. This is not an absolute requirement for DYK, but those hooks that DYK clerks find more "interesting" usually get picked earlier. --PFHLai (talk) 04:45, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Which is fair enough, but I say this has just as much hook appeal as some suggestions on dyk. Paralympiakos (talk) 16:45, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

William Donald Albright

• ... that in 1941, William Donald Albright became director of the Beaverlodge Research Station, the northernmost such station in Canada?

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 13:49, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

• I'm underwhelmed by that hook. Not only is it boring, but it fails to capture the significance of what this man did. He had started the research station on his own homestead farm circa 1913 or 1914, starting getting paid by the government for doing research there as of 1917, was named research superintendent in 1919, and finally became "director" in 1941 after the government designated his farm as a full-scale research station. When I read this article and the cited sources, I concluded that the article was basically a creative paraphrasing of one source. I found another good reference and expanded/revised the article a bit. Having done all that, I have an alternative hook to offer up for review:

• ALT1... that William Donald Albright homesteaded in Alberta's Peace River region in 1913 and conducted studies there that led to his farm becoming Canada's northernmost agricultural experiment station? --Orlady (talk) 05:41, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Arctic Night 11:10, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Someone else will need to review that hook, since its partly based on my research. --Orlady (talk) 20:40, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Debye-Hückel theory

• ... that Debye–Hückel theory provides a theoretical explanation for departures from ideality in dilute solutions of electrolytes?

Created by Petergans (talk). Self nom at 13:16, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

• It's a redirect. - PM800 (talk) 02:27, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

No it isn't. There was a redirect. I had tagged the old redirect for deletion, but it appears that it is still around, so it seems that there are two files with the same name. Please, admin, sort this out. Petergans (talk) 08:29, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Please explain. The Debye–Hückel theory redirect is valid and needs no deletion. The Debye–Hückel equation article is neither new nor has been 5x expanded recently. So what is being nominated for DYK? Materialscientist (talk) 08:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

The article is at Debye-H%C3%BCckel_theory: Debye-Hückel_theory
The redirect is at Debye%E2%80%93H%C3%BCckel_theory: Debye–Hückel_theory
The difference is the former has a hyphen in the title, the latter a dash. EdChem (talk) 09:57, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you User:EdChem for finding the problem. I have put a delete request in for the redundant redirect. Debye-Hückel theory is a new article which I have written because Debye-Hückel equation made no mention of where the equation comes from. Petergans (talk) 20:21, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Ok. I'd love to see this topic on the main page, but these two articles overlap too much. A merger tag may appear any hour. The problem is this nom. might be viewed as futile creation of a new article (for DYK) instead of fixing an old one. Materialscientist (talk) 07:00, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

What's the status here? It looks to me like the two articles might have been harmonized with the intent of allowing them to remain as separate articles. (I must say that I was surprised to see that the topic of Debye-Hückel showed up as a new article this many years into Misplaced Pages's history, but maybe these are two independent articles.) Are they going to remain separate, or hasn't this been discussed? --Orlady (talk) 01:43, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

In my view the article Debye-Hückel equation is wholly inadequate. Reading it, a chemistry student would get no idea of the theory behind the equation. Two articles should remain separate. I could not justify spending more of my time on this topic area. Petergans (talk) 11:39, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

SimplySiti

• ... that all lipsticks from the SimplySiti cosmetic range have names based on the founder's (pictured) hit singles?

Created/expanded by Syfuel (talk). Self nom at 15:52, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Added a picture. SyFuel_Burned 18:39, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

The hook should probably be reworded for clarity. Also, is a picture really necessary for this one? Arctic Night 12:55, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• How about: ... that all lipsticks from SimplySiti founded by Siti Nurhaliza (pictured) is named based on her hits singles? or ... that Siti Nurhaliza (pictured) has designated all lipsticks from her brand, SimplySiti to be named based on her famous singles? SyFuel_Burned 16:54, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. Hook ref AGF. I suggest this rewording of the hook:
• ALT1: ... that lipsticks in the SimplySiti cosmetic line are named after hit singles and albums produced by the company's founder and Malaysian singer, Siti Nurhaliza (pictured)? Yoninah (talk) 20:24, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Returned from preps per thread at WT:DYK: promotion of a commercial product on the main page. Materialscientist (talk) 23:54, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Ken Nicholas

• ... that Ken Nicholas represented England at schoolboy level in both football and rugby?

Created by WFCforLife (talk). Self nom at 06:26, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

• I'm sitting on the fence with this one. 1,571 characters is technically long enough from DYK, but if we cut out the lead (which basically restates what the rest of the article already says), that brings us to below that level. For now, I'm going to put a question mark on this one, as allowed by the discretionary provision of the rules, and wait to see if this is expanded. Arctic Night 12:44, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• I think the lead is a fair summary of the article, and therefore should remain. But for the purposes of DYK you make a valid point. I'll have access to the source(s) that might allow me to expand the article this evening, and hope to do so this weekend. If I fail to expand it by 00:01 on 8 November (UTC), I'm happy for this to be removed. —WFC— 12:57, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

The Female Quixote

• ... that The Female Quixote was used as a model by Jane Austen for her first novel, Northanger Abbey?

Created by Clementina (talk). Self nom at 02:27, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

• Amazon.com is not a reliable source. This link is a student essay, and also not a reliable source. Enotes.com is a tertiary source, and is of dubious reliability.--hkr Laozi speak 00:44, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• I did a thorough search for alternatives and none of them quite say what is in the hook, agreed that the two sources you mention are not really reliable. It is certainly clear that 'Female Quixote' influenced Austen in writing her book e.g. , so perhaps that sort of wording could be used instead. Mikenorton (talk) 02:52, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• The whole article is in need of more reliable sources. Here are some links to academic journal articles that could be used (although not necessarily for this hook): --Orlady (talk) 16:24, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 31

Kaplaneios School

• ... that the 19th-century Kaplaneios School (pictured) in Ioannina, Greece, evolved into the most significant intellectual center of the city through the work of Athanasios Psalidas?

Created/expanded by Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 16:32, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook ref verified. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:12, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Danny van Bergen

• ... that in the 2009 M-1 Challenge Season in the sport of MMA, Team Benelux's Danny van Bergen was one of only two team members to finish with a positive record?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 01:27, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• Is sherdog.com a reliable source? I'm not saying it isn't, but I've never heard of it and it looks like all 9 references point there. Also, I had no idea what sport this was until clicking through; do you think you could re-word the hook for those of us unfamiliar with terms such as "2009 M-1 Challenge Season"? 28bytes (talk) 06:58, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Sherdog.com is the top source for the sport. Paralympiakos (talk) 07:32, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

The hook works for me (although I'd prefer "Mixed martial arts" to its abbreviation) and the date and length are fine. After looking at the references in Sherdog I'm not as worried about the sourcing issue but I'm going to ask for a second opinion here before approving. Thanks, 28bytes (talk) 14:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Looks like there are no objections on that basis, so I'd say it's good to go. 28bytes (talk) 02:48, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Monika Frimmer, Christa Bonhoff, Dantes Diwiak

• ... that the vocal quartet Monika Frimmer, Christa Bonhoff, Dantes Diwiak and Peter Kooy recorded Valentin Rathgeber's Augsburger Tafel-Confect?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 20:40, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• Unfortunately there is no room for the full title, Michael Bednarek just helped to a translation: Augsburger Tafel-Confect, short for Ohren-vergnügendes und Gemüth-ergötzendes Tafel-Confect (Augsburg Table Confectionery, short for Table Confectionery, Pleasuring the Ears and Delightful to the Soul. Augsburg Table Confectionery or even Augsburg Table Candy might replace the German title in the hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• I suggest to honour the second composer Johann Caspar Seyfert of the song collection (new short article thanks to lilHelpa), hoping that for three articles the hook may be a little longer:

ALT1: ... that Monika Frimmer, Christa Bonhoff, Dantes Diwiak and Peter Kooy sang Augsburg Confectionary of Valentin Rathgeber and Johann Caspar Seyfert?

Harold King (author)

• ... that the American novelist Harold "Hal" King gained the sobriquet "the crown prince of suspense" with publication of his 1979 anti-Nazi thriller, Closing Ceremonies?

ALT... that the 1979 suspense novel Closing Ceremonies by Harold King has a picture of Adolf Hitler's urn of ashes on the cover?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 19:56, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. However, there are a few referencing problems, which I noted in the article. Also, if you can find a source that says the cover depicts an urn containing the ashes of Hitler, I think that would make a better hook. Yoninah (talk) 22:22, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

List of number-one EPs (UK), Hits (The Beach Boys EP)

• ... that extended play Hits by The Beach Boys (songwriter Brian Wilson pictured) spent 34 weeks at number-one in the EP chart?

Created by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 17:34, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• The hook (32 weeks) contradicts the articles (34 weeks). 28bytes (talk) 07:02, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, sorry I must have made a typo in the hook. Both articles were already correct, hook ammended. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 10:53, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• In that case, it's good to go. 28bytes (talk) 14:04, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Anti-Fascist Youth Union of the Free Territory of Trieste

• ... that the Anti-Fascist Youth Union did, apart from political activism, organize sports and cultural activities in the Free Territory of Trieste?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 16:58, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. Foreign-language hook ref AGF. I would like to suggest this rewording of the hook:
• ALT1: ... that, in addition to mobilizing labor brigades for the post-war reconstruction of Yugoslavia, the Anti-Fascist Youth Union of the Free Territory of Trieste planned sporting and cultural events? Yoninah (talk) 10:58, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Article is tagged as an orphan. 28bytes (talk) 19:39, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

No longer orphaned. --Soman (talk) 21:55, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I've added the two most relevant links to the article (PCTLT and UAIS articles). However, neither WP:DYK and WP:DYKAR mentions anything about orphan articles. If DYK is to encourage article creation in areas underdeveloped in Misplaced Pages, having non-orphanage as a requirement would not be very helpfull. --Soman (talk) 00:12, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Correct, orphan tags are not explicitly mentioned, but if nothing in Misplaced Pages (outside DYK itself) is seen fit to link to an article, that concerns me. Regardless, it's no longer orphaned. 28bytes (talk) 00:35, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

BSA Empire Star

• ... that in 1937 a BSA Empire Star motorcycle ridden by Walter Handley won a race at Brooklands race track with a fastest lap at 107.57mph using alcohol as fuel?

Created/expanded by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 14:34, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• The cited reference points to a suspended domain. Please find another source, but kindly ensure that it is reliable. Mspraveen (talk) 10:01, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Meyer Foshaug

• ... that Meyer Foshaug held one of the first four seats won by the Labour Party in the Parliament of Norway?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 10:57, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• Kind of boring. - PM800 (talk) 11:29, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• I don't think it's that bad - sure, it could be a little more exciting, but I don't know if it should be rejected on those grounds. Arctic Night 15:30, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• Meets the criteria (date, length, ref) and personally I think it is an interesting hook. He was one of the few people who was early in a small opposition party that later has dominated Norwegian politics since the 1930s. Arsenikk 11:14, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Looks like a significant election victory. Please consider beefing up Norwegian parliamentary election, 1903 (which says Labour had 5 instead of 4 seats??? Please check & fix as needed.) and including a link in a hook, which says something like:

• ALT:... that the Labour Party never had a seat in the Parliament of Norway until Meyer Foshaug and 4 (/5???) others won in the 1903 elections?

--PFHLai (talk) 18:28, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Henry Scott

• ... that executioner Thomas Henry Scott was fired for being with a prostitute on the night before a hanging job?

Created by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 07:44, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• A bit negative, perhaps?

• The hook is fine because the person is long dead. However, I don't think this should run unless it's expanded significantly. Christopher Connor (talk) 12:00, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• Just for the record, the article was long enough when I nominated it; but then Christopher Connor cut it down by a lot. - PM800 (talk) 12:23, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• 916 characters now, is anything going to be done to change this? SmartSE (talk) 21:55, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• I'm going to try to do some work on it soon. - PM800 (talk) 17:02, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• A great hook (could be further improved by mentioning that he self-reported!); hopefully this article can be brought up to 1500 characters. cmadler (talk) 20:59, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 1

Robert Olmstead

• ... that Robert Olmstead's novel Far Bright Star is set in "the place of the sun shriveled and the dried up", and has been named by booklist as one of the Top Ten Westerns of the Decade?

• ALT1:... that Robert Olmstead's novel Coal Black Horse won the 2007 Chicago Tribune Heartland Prize for Fiction and has been described as evoking what Henry David Thoreau described in Walden as "the indescribable innocence and beneficence of Nature"?

Created by EdChem (talk). Self nom at 06:15, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Following on from the discussion at WT:DYK#DYK as a possible part the sourcing of BLP drive, I am posting this nomination as a test of that idea. The pre-expansion unreferenced version had less than 1000 characters and was unsourced since March 2008. My cumulative changes have added 8 references and more than doubled the character count. Are these changes considered sufficient to make the nomination DYK / main page worthy? Multiple perspectives welcome. EdChem (talk) 06:22, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Operation Almenrausch, Peder Furubotn, Roald Halvorsen, Ørnulf Egge

• ... that most leading communists hit by the Nazi Operation Almenrausch in 1944, including Peder Furubotn, Ørnulf Egge and Roald Halvorsen, survived?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 23:23, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: Please hold this for some days, as more articles will be added. Geschichte (talk) 23:26, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Bolded Operation Almenrausch, after expansion. Oceanh (talk) 22:50, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

National Federation of Discharged and Demobilized Sailors and Soldiers

• ... that the National Federation of Discharged and Demobilized Sailors and Soldiers, a forerunner of the Royal British Legion, was founded in opposition to the re-conscription of men injured during World War I?

Created by Warofdreams (talk). Self nom at 10:22, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Might be good for 11 November (Remembrance Day). Warofdreams talk 10:24, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:47, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Little Fluffy Gigolo Pelu

• ... that the alien hero of Little Fluffy Gigolo Pelu was inspired by the lovelorn wanderer Tora-san?

• Comment: Please note that the article was initially created with copyright violation problems, but was rewritten to remove them. --Malkinann (talk) 02:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

5x expanded by KrebMarkt (talk). Nominated by Malkinann (talk) at 02:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Tønsberg FIK

• ... that Norwegian skier Anders Aukland has also won Norwegian championship medals in athletics, for the club Tønsberg FIK?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 23:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. Foreign-language hook refs AGF. The hook is a little localized, though. How about:
• ALT1: ... that athletes from the Tønsberg FIK Norwegian track and field club have won national championships in distance running, throwing and sprints? Yoninah (talk) 14:14, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Abingdon Boys School discography

• ... that Abingdon Boys School, a band that shares a name with a school formerly attended by members of Radiohead, has contributed music to anime such as Darker than Black and Soul Eater?

Created by NocturneNoir (talk). Self nom at 17:55, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• It doesn't have enough characters of prose, and it's not a new article. - PM800 (talk) 05:31, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• Would have appreciated a notification; I feel quite lucky I checked this page out of paranoia considering I would not have found out otherwise. I've eked out a bit more prose to round it out at 1,500 characters, which should be sufficient. Further: the rules state, and I quote, "Articles that have been worked on exclusively in a user or user talk subpage and then moved (or in some cases pasted) to the article mainspace are considered new as of the date they reach the mainspace." I see no reason this should fail DYK criteria. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR 23:16, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

PageMove out of userspace confirmed for Nov. 1st. PM800 probably just missed that one line in the edit history. Pls re-review. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 20:34, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length verified. Foreign-language hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 15:28, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Bert Perrigo

• ... that Bert Perrigo was a British engineer and designer for BSA motorcycles where he developed the BSA Blue Star range in the 1930's and was paid one half penny royalty for every motorcycle sold?

Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 16:29, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• (alt.hook)... that British engineer Bert Perrigo helped develop the BSA Blue Star motorcycles (example pictured) in the 1930's and was paid one half penny royalty for every motorcycle sold? --PFHLai (talk) 20:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Wednesbury unreasonableness in Singapore

• ... that a classic hypothetical example of the Wednesbury unreasonableness doctrine in administrative law, which applies in Singapore, is a public authority dismissing a teacher because of her red hair?

Created by Bbilltang (talk), Doreenchia (talk), Fazlina.2008 (talk), Liruwong (talk), Pinkturtlehair (talk) and Smuconlaw (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 08:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• I think the picture is inappropriate to use in both the hook and the article unless she has anything to do with the actual dismissal case. Geschichte (talk) 23:25, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

No, the person in the photograph doesn't have anything to do with the dismissal case because it is not a real dismissal case. It is a hypothetical case given as an example in a well-known English case (Associated Provincial Picture Houses v Wednesbury Corporation). If it would make things clearer, I am happy to change the hook to read "... classic hypothetical example ..." — SMUconlaw (talk) 09:24, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

I.G.Y. (What a Beautiful World)

• ... that Steely Dan singer Donald Fagen's only Billboard Top 40 hit as a solo artist was "I.G.Y. (What a Beautiful World)", a song inspired by the International Geophysical Year of July 1957–December 1958?

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 02:32, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. Online hook ref verified; offline hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 15:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Wallkill Valley Rail Trail

• ... that in 2009 the Wallkill Valley Rail Trail, a public walkway in upstate New York, nearly doubled in length?

5x expanded by User:Gyrobo (talk). Self nom at 01:09, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Hasn't been expanded 5x, no evidence of moving. - PM800 (talk) 04:28, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
  • It has been expanded 5x. When I started the expansion on November 1, it was 5,428 bytes. It surpassed 27,140 bytes on November 7, shortly before I submitted it here. Admittedly, I was a day late, but this is the first time I've submitted a DYK and hadn't realized there was a time component. It hasn't moved because it's only been here a day.
    --Gyrobo (talk) 04:36, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
    • The article has to be expanded 5x based on characters of prose, not bytes. There were about 2,300 characters in October and about 10,000 now. - PM800 (talk) 04:49, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
      • By my count, there are closer to 11,000 characters in the prose. I'd intended to increase the lead by adding a paragraph about the bridges along the trail, please allow me to do that now.
        --Gyrobo (talk) 04:56, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
        • Done. I believe the addition of the second lead paragraph puts it at 5x prose characters.
          --Gyrobo (talk) 05:40, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• Not quite. There were 2,357 characters before November 1, when you started editing. Right now, there are 11,008. So there hasn't been a 5x expansion in any five-day period. There hasn't even been a 5x expansion in the past eight days. - PM800 (talk) 07:36, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• I'm seeing almost 12,000 characters in the prose, after removing the TOC and section headers, but I'll add the balance. How did you calculate the prose characters?
  --Gyrobo (talk) 14:24, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• Done. I've added to the Recreation and activities section to include information about parking, and about the Binnewater Historic District. I'm pretty sure it now reaches the character requirement. Again, please excuse the slight lateness. In the future I'll work on such articles in my sandbox, but after seeing DYKs on so many good and featured articles, I thought that I first needed to get it through GAN.
  --Gyrobo (talk) 16:04, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• I'd also like to point out Additional rule D9: "'Five days old' really means about eight days in Swahili :)" Reviewers have a good deal of discretion over when they consider an expansion to have occurred, and I feel this article has increased markedly (and adequately) in both size, quality and accuracy within a reasonable time frame.
  --Gyrobo (talk) 22:43, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, it has been expanded 5x now. However, could you point out where it says the walkway length doubled in the article? I can't find it. - PM800 (talk) 22:58, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• Thank you. The addition of the 11.5-mile (18.5 km) Rosendale section in 2009 nearly doubled the length of the trail, currently 12.2 miles (19.6 km). The titles of ref 48 and 49 are "Wallkill Rail Trail could double in size" and "Wallkill Valley Rail Trail Length Doubles", respectively. I'll add a sentence explicitly about how the addition effectively doubles the size of the trail.
  --Gyrobo (talk) 23:06, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 2

Jacques Bellange

• ... that the "secretive character" of the Beggar Looking through his Hat (pictured) attributed to the 17th century artist Jacques Bellange may have appealed to a former owner, American KGB spy Michael Straight?

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 03:03, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• An opinion of course, but one stated by the Walters Art Museum in Baltimore who now own it. Johnbod (talk) 03:03, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Monte Titano

• ... that Monte Titano (pictured), the highest peak of San Marino, is part of a UNESCO World Heritage Site?

5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 20:58, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char . 11:14, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• The image is great. 5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. The hook given is also verified, but how about something more eye-catching, like:
• ALT1: ... that, according to legend, Monte Titano (pictured) in San Marino was given as a gift to Saint Marinus, a Croatian stonemason fleeing anti-Christian persecution, who established a hermitage there? Yoninah (talk) 19:19, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Any, I don't mind.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:45, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• Offline hook ref AGF. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:57, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Charles B. Carter

• ... that Maine Senator Charles "Babe" Carter (pictured) was known for his agility, nerve, and "wonderful handling of his massive frame" as a football player in the early 1900s?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:20, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• All checks out. 97198 (talk) 13:52, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Slavic-Italian Anti-Fascist Union, Free Territory of Trieste municipal election, 1949

• ... that in the 1949 municipal election in the Free Territory of Trieste, the communist-led Slavic-Italian Anti-Fascist Union won 97% of the votes in Monrupino?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 22:31, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Pratt-Yorke opinion

• ... that mis-transcribed versions of the Pratt-Yorke opinion (Pratt pictured) of 1757 were circulated in British North America by opponents of the Royal Proclamation of 1763?

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 21:21, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:24, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Religion in San Marino

• ... that religion in San Marino is predominantly Catholic?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk), and Hongkongresident (talk). Self nom at 21:45, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• This proposed pic looks more like a well-staffed medieval daycare centre. The inside of Catholic churches in San Marino today doesn't resemble that at all, I'm afraid. --PFHLai (talk) 05:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Img removed from the hook.-- N.V.V. Char . 01:57, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Just wondering if you'd like a hookier hook, like:
• ALT1: ... that a 1993 parliamentary rule passed in the predominantly Catholic country of San Marino changed the loyalty oath from "Holy Gospel" to "on my honor"? Yoninah (talk) 15:43, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• Excellent. If you could also include a suitable img from the article it would be nice. Thanks.-- N.V.V. Char . 23:08, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• Added image. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 10:04, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks.-- N.V.V. Char . 10:49, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Candide ou l'optimisme du XXe siècle

• ... that Candide ou l'optimisme au XXe siècle is a French comedy drama film from 1960, based on Voltaire's satiric novel Candide, ou l'Optimisme, and set in the World War II era?

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 19:22, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• I read the Plot section to find a better hook, and found that the page needs copy editing for clarity (e.g. "Candide's experience includes service in German army, inspecting concentration camp") and to avoid copyvios (e.g. "accidentally precipitates a missile conflict" or "neither surprising nor disillusioning" — both terms lifted verbatim from the sources). Yoninah (talk) 18:53, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

The Listeners (novel)

• ... that James Gunn's 1972 science fiction novel The Listeners was proposed as an unrecognized classic in the field by New Scientist magazine in November 2010?

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 16:42, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• Everything checks out. 28bytes (talk) 02:32, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• The plot summary seems very long for the overall size of the article. It should be trimmed before the hook is promoted. –Grondemar 04:07, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• I don't see that criteria in the DYK guidelines... - Tim1965 (talk) 14:24, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• I agree that the plot synopsis is disproporionately lengthy if we were doing a featured article review, but I think it's fine for DYK purposes. It's not as though this is a stub with a long plot summary bringing it up to 1500 characters; it would be 4357 characters even if the entire plot summary were removed. cmadler (talk) 21:17, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Duke Henderson

• ... that American blues shouter and jazz singer Duke Henderson later broadcast as a minister and gospel DJ?

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 15:50, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook ref verified. What do you think about this expanded hook:
• ALT1: ... that in the late 1940s, American blues shouter and jazz singer Duke Henderson renounced his past and began broadcasting as Brother Henderson, a minister and gospel DJ? Yoninah (talk) 21:24, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Splendid ! - go for it - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 21:30, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:59, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Joseph Miranda

• ... that Joseph Miranda once had his life saved by Sam DeCavalcante after robbing another mobster?

Created by 72.74.200.136 (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 01:29, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 01:58, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

English grammar - "...after he had robbed..." Philg88 (talk) 06:46, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• BLP issues have been raised about this hook. It appears that he is generally believed to be a mobster, but since he's apparently never been convicted statements should be couched in more cautious language. --Orlady (talk) 20:19, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Sourcing of the article is a bit weak, IMO. However, the hook sourcing is OK. How about this (it's very different, but it's the same fact, I think it's solid, and it doesn't say he's a mobster):

• ALT1... that according to the FBI, purported mobster Joseph Miranda once owed his life to family boss Sam DeCavalcante? --Orlady (talk) 21:47, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 is better. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 23:00, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• I agree. Thanks for checking this out, Orlady. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:10, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Dan River (China)

• ... that China's Dan River is the longest tributary of the Han River, itself the longest tributary of the Yangtze River, the longest river in Asia? and third longest in the world?

Created by Philg88 (talk). Self nom at 02:06, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• Better without "and third longest in the world". Save this for a hook about the third longest tributary of the Yangtze River.... --174.89.163.171 (talk) 04:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• Just to clarify, the Yangtze is the third longest river in the world - that fact has nothing to do with tributaries. Philg88 (talk) 22:22, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

I know. Your hook has "the longest ___" three times, and following up with "(Ooops) but it's not the longest ___ here" makes the hook look clumsy. Save "the third longest ___" part for another hook (perhaps about another tributary which may be third longest ___ of....) --174.89.163.171 (talk) 13:32, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

OK, I have no problem dropping "and third longest in the world" Philg88 (talk) 00:34, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• I only see the claim that the Dan is the longest tributary of the Han, but nothing about the lengths of the Hand or the Yangtze in the article. Those statements need to be added, with citations. Also, the article is undercited; the "Geography", "Reasons for the decline in trade", and "Major floods and natural disasters" sections lack any citations whatsoever, and the "History" section really needs more citations to support what's said. cmadler (talk) 21:25, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure that the lengths of the Han and the Yangzte are relevant in an article about the Dan River. As for references, the hook fact itself is referenced whilst the other sections are unconnected to the hook. Philg88 (talk) 22:03, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

The article states (with citation) that the Dan is the longest tributary of the Han. I do not see that the article states, much less provides a citation, that the Han is the longest tributary of the Yangtze or that the Yangtze is the longest river in Asia. If you're going to put it in the hook, it needs to be in the article. (If it's there and I'm missing it, please let me know where!) As for references elsewhere, DYK has a rule of thumb of about 1 in-line citation per paragraph (D2), which this article lacks in the sections I mentioned. cmadler (talk) 13:53, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Menara Kudus Mosque

• ... that Menara Kudus Mosque (pictured) is the only mosque in Java known to have a Majapahit-style Hindu drum tower?

5x expanded by Merbabu (talk). Self nom at 13:24, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• 5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:04, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 3

Aimerico Manrique de Lara

• ... that the troubadour Peire Rogier addressed a poem to Aimerico Manrique de Lara, Duke of Narbonne (c. 1152–1177), encouraging him to live up to his illustrious Spanish lineage?

Created by Srnec (talk). Self nom at 06:25, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:10, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Marv Rackley

• ... that, in 1946, Marv Rackley was hired by his teammate Jackie Robinson to play for the "Jackie Robinson All-Stars"?

5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 05:20, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Bzyb River

• ... that Soviet President Nikita Khrushchev once proposed a major dam on the Bzyb River (pictured) but dropped the idea in favor of Inguri instead when he learned it would affect the beach of his favorite resort of Pitsunda?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 10:58, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char . 11:40, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Abrskil Cave, Otap, Abrskil

• ... that a cave near Otap is named for and linked to a legend involving the Abkhazian hero Abrskil?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 13:17, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length of all 3 articles verified. Hook ref verified. Nice jobs! Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:24, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Bias in Singapore

• ... that Singapore law on whether a decision-maker is affected by apparent bias is based on the premise that "justice should not only be done, but should manifestly and undoubtedly be seen to be done"?

Created by Siauderman (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 08:38, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Hangar One (Los Angeles, California)

• ... that Hangar No. 1 (pictured) was constructed as Los Angeles International Airport's first building in 1929?

5x expanded by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 23:36, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• alt 1 ... that Hangar No. 1 (pictured), once used by Charles Lindbergh, was built at Los Angeles International Airport when it consisted of a dirt landing strip in the middle of bean and barley fields? Cbl62 (talk) 05:18, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• The credits were messed up, crediting User:User. It looks like this was a self nom by Bobak, and I've so reflected in the credit template. If that is in error, please adjust. Cbl62 (talk) 05:52, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• Whoops! I was in a hurry at the end, thanks for the correction --and the Alt 1 looks a lot better. --Bobak (talk) 18:10, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• 5x expansion verified. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:28, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Lynching of Ell Persons

• ... that Ell Persons, an African American man, was lynched and burned alive in 1917, "putting this Negro out of the way in up-to-date fashion"?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 22:30, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: A nice alternative hook might be to mention the initial investigation relying upon an image of Persons supposedly being visible in a murder victim's pupils after her death, but I can't quite manage to turn it into a coherent hook. (Maybe mention the year as well.) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 06:52, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• Is there anything particularly wrong with this hook? I added the date; it only increased the character count slightly. Christopher Connor (talk) 00:17, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1. This one may be more interesting. Christopher Connor (talk) 11:36, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
• ... that after Ell Persons, an African American man, was lynched in 1917, his decapitated head was thrown at a group of African Americans?

Arne Wam

• ... that Arne Wam was responsible for stopping the Norwegian State Railways from turning all seats to the trains forward direction?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 21:55, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• The hook is somewhat difficult to understand. ALT: ... that Arne Wam, as director of the Norwegian State Railways, ended the practice of turning all seats in whatever direction a train was facing? Geschichte (talk) 23:53, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, that sounds a lot better. Arsenikk 23:09, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Machias (1777)

• ... that Maliseet, Passamaquoddy, and Penobscot Indians participated in the Battle of Machias on August 13–14, 1777?

Created by Magicpiano (talk). Self nom at 21:26, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that in the 1777 Battle of Machias a British amphibious assault seized stores of flour, rice, corn, shoes, and ammunition but was driven off by United States forces assisted by Maliseet, Passamaquoddy, and Penobscot Indians?
• ALT2 ... that it was said of the 1777 Battle of Machias by John Allan that "not an Action during the War Except Bunker Hill there was such a slaughter" even though the British claimed they suffered only 3 dead and 18 wounded?

--Demiurge1000 (talk) 07:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Fixed links in the ALTs, and qualified action by year; otherwise ALTs look good to me too. Editors wishing to verify should note that most of the source pages for this article are accessible through Google Book preview. Magic♪piano 16:33, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

St Michael's Church, Stretton en le Field

• ... that the chancel arch in St Michael's Church, Stretton en le Field, Leicestershire, appears to be made of stone, but it is made of wood covered with stucco, giving it the appearance of stone?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:25, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Breiðamerkurjökull and Höfn

• ... that Breiðamerkurjökull (pictured), an outlet glacier of the larger glacier of Vatnajökull, can approached from the fishing town of Höfn?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:21, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char . 08:45, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• I don't think this hook would be interesting to enough people for the English Misplaced Pages front page, but that's just my opinion. - PM800 (talk) 05:13, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• This should please the masses: ALT1: ... that Breiðamerkurjökull (pictured), an outlet glacier of the larger glacier of Vatnajökull, was used as a stand-in for Siberia in the film Lara Croft: Tomb Raider?--hkr Laozi speak 04:21, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• It is a double article hook and the name of Höfn should also be part of any alternate hook. Hence, original hook is fine though not interesting enough. -- N.V.V. Char . 14:54, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Canfield-Wright House

• ... that the Canfield-Wright House (pictured) was built for an oil tycoon who developed Beverly Hills and Del Mar, California?

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 06:52, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Faya (band)

• ... that R&B group FYA were discovered singing at a youth centre in Slough and went on to be signed to a six-album deal with Def Jam Recordings?

Created by A Thousand Doors (talk). Self nom at 03:21, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

United Trade Unions of the Free Territory of Trieste

• ... that the communist-led United Trade Unions led a series of political strikes against the Allied Military Government in the Free Territory of Trieste?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 01:42, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Sex, Slander, and Salvation

• ... that Sex, Slander, and Salvation was published just before David Berg's death and the Love Charter's reorganization of the Family International?

Created by ResidentAnthropologist (talk). Self nom at 17:57, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• This article had not been created or expanded five times in the previous five days. - PM800 (talk) 05:06, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

its been moved to the mainspace in the last five days So it is considered created as of when it is moved out of user space

• OK, sorry about that. - PM800 (talk) 07:35, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

No worries :-)The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 15:16, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 4

The King Is Dead (album)

• ... that The Decemberists' single off of their new album has been compared to R.E.M., Neil Young, Steely Dan and Bruce Springsteen?

Created by Theornamentalist (talk). Self nom at 22:52, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Length and creation date verified. Four hook citations check out. The Interior(Talk) 23:19, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Le Diable et les Dix Commandements

• ... that according to Bosley Crowther in film Le Diable et les Dix Commandements (pictured)

the best episode is that one where play Louis de Funes and Jean-Claude Brialy? Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 13:01, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Very poor English in this hook ("the best is episode in which play"). You should probably also have someone go over the article, as well. - PM800 (talk) 04:43, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
• "the best episode is that one where". Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 08:49, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• No, that doesn't make sense, either. I should probably write the hook correctly for you, but I just don't think it would be interesting enough. Maybe you could pick another fact from the article? - PM800 (talk) 09:37, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Pancartes

• ... that historian Marjorie Chibnall states that the medieval historian Orderic Vitalis used now lost pancartes of various Norman monastic houses as sources for Orderic's historical writings?

Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 17:09, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

North Bothnia Line

• ... that the proposed North Bothnia Line will allow high-speed trains to travel from Stockholm to Luleå Central Station?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 22:52, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Coast-to-Coast Line

• ... that the Coast-to-Coast Line was created in 1941 when the Swedish State Railways nationalized five railways that connected Gothenburg to the East Coast?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 22:46, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 60

• ... that Bach composed in his cantata O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 60 four dialogues, three of Fear and Hope, one of Fear and the Voice of Christ?

• Comment: This is meant to appear on 14 November, the 24th Sunday after Trinity for which it was written.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 16:21, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Venues of the 1968 Summer Olympics

• ... that all four football venues at the 1968 Summer Olympics would be used as FIFA World Cup stadia when Mexico hosted the Cup in 1970 and 1986?

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 15:11, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Kasteholm Castle

• ... that before becoming king, Gustav I of Sweden enchanced the structure of Kastelholm Castle (pictured) as he used the location as a hunting ground?

5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:43, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char . 11:32, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Åland Museum, Åland Maritime Museum

• ... that in Mariehamn, the Åland Museum contains a boat made of seal skin dated to the Stone Age whilst Åland Maritime Museum contains a ship named the Pommern (pictured), dated to 1903?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 10:32, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char . 11:29, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Andhra Pradesh Housing Board

A portrait of a middle-aged man with a yellow turban, a white sash from his right shoulder running across his chest and medals adorning his black Nehru jacket

• ... that Hyderabad-based Andhra Pradesh Housing Board, which was formerly known as City Improvement Board, was conceived by Nizam Osman Ali Khan, Asaf Jah VII (pictured) in 1911?

Created by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 08:56, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Creation date and length verified. Hook citation is good. Hook might need a tweak for interest factor though. The Interior(Talk) 21:28, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Andreas Pruys

• ... that in Bach's St John Passion in the Philharmonie Luxembourg, Christoph Prégardien was the Evangelist and Andreas Pruys sang the words of Christ?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 07:02, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Babe Borton

• ... that first baseman Babe Borton bribed opponents so that his team could win the 1919 Pacific Coast League championship?

5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 02:44, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Length, date and hook reference check out. I've removed the stub tags from the article's talk page. 28bytes (talk) 03:06, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

List of first overall NBA Development League draft picks

• ... that Nick Fazekas, the number one overall selection in the 2010 NBA Development League Draft, was a D-League All-Star before he was even picked?

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 00:34, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Confederazione dei Sindacati Unici Classisti del Territorio libero di Trieste

• ... that it took the Titoist trade unionists in the Free Territory of Trieste over two years to form their own confederation, after the Soviet-Yugoslav split of 1948?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• If you disregard the various translations in the article, there are less than 1,500 characters. - PM800 (talk) 04:58, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Since when are translations not counted as part of the prose? It is not mentioned neither in WP:DYK nor Misplaced Pages:Did_you_know/Additional_rules#Additional_article_length_rules. --Soman (talk) 05:07, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• The rules state: "In practice, articles longer than 1,500 characters may still be rejected as too short, at the discretion of the selecting reviewers and administrators." - PM800 (talk) 05:49, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• On the other hand, this is probably the sole Titoist union in the world ever to exist outside of Yugoslavia (which, if it could be sourced, would have made a great DYK hook) and thus a quite unique political phenomenon. --Soman (talk) 20:34, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Cockfield F.C.

• ... that Cockfield Football Club, from the tiny "two-street pit village" of Cockfield, County Durham, was dubbed the "Village Wonder Team" after reaching the semi-finals of the FA Amateur Cup in 1923?

5x expanded by ChrisTheDude (talk). Self nom at 22:26, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Americanization School

• ... that the Americanization School (pictured) in Oceanside, California was built as part of historic assimilation programs aimed at Spanish-speaking immigrants?

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 22:13, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Vic Tandy

• ... that Vic Tandy was the first researcher to link infrasound and ghosts together?

Created by Panyd (talk). Self nom at 21:18, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

BredoLab botnet

• ... that Dutch law enforcement officials used the BredoLab botnet against itself, by forcing it to send a warning to the 30 million computers it infected?

Created by Excirial (talk). Self nom at 21:12, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

ALT 1: ... that the BredoLab botnet infected over 30 million computers with a Trojan Horse, which makes it the largest botnet in history?

• The first suggestion is mainly an attempt to evade another "Largest botnet" focusing DYK hook, since i already submitted a few article's before using that "did you know" structure. Also, if anyone has a spare minute to proof-read the article, i would appreciate it. Seeing i have been multitasking writing and researching the subject, i just know there must be some more grammar issues here and there. Excirial 21:12, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

The first hook is good, but can we be sure the message was sent to all 30 million computers? There are some bare urls as references, which need to be fixed as well. SmartSE (talk) 00:45, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Well, the answer to that is no. According to one of the sources, the message has been displayed on around 100.000 machines so far, and about 55 people decided to file a complaint based upon it. Keep in mind that the nature of a botnet is secrecy and distributed computing against ones will, which means that most information relies on estimates - even when command over a botnet is taken over (Bots are added and removed all the time after all).

The 30 million part in the hook was mainly intended to incorporate the botnets size in the hook, in a non-intrusive and compact way. My intention was to mention that the botnet has been instructed to forward the message to all its zombies - Of that we can be certain, and there is reliable sourcing for that. The hook could probably be altered to reflect that this was an instruction, and not an accomplishment. Perhaps "by redirecting the 30 million zombie computers it controls to a webpage, in an attempt to warn the owners of the machines that it was infected"? Excirial 18:41, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

What about changing "forcing it to" to "ordering it to" in the original hook? 28bytes (talk) 17:40, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I think that's a good idea, as well as removing the 30 million as it's too speculative, I assume that using the botnet to send messages to infected is something that isn't always done, making it worthy of a hook. That gives:

ALT2 ... that Dutch law enforcement officials used the BredoLab botnet against itself, by ordering it to send a warning to the computers it infected? SmartSE (talk) 20:24, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

That looks fine to me, thanks. Still, if possible, i would kind of like the 30 million part to be in, mostly because it is currently the largest recorded botnet that we have. While sizes are estimates, the estimates are most times within a fairly small error margin of each other (estimates from other sources). Equally these sizes are based on network analysis and honeypots (And some basic math) so they are not entirely random (And to go wax: The previous botnet DYK's were mostly based on the size and spam count)

Still, i can see your concern over speculation, and since i didn't find any error margin brackets (all reported 30 million), i cannot be sure if the reports are just parroting each other. Either way, i'm entirely fine with the current hook, size or not. Excirial 22:49, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

The Calling (Yes song)

• ... that the lyrics of Yes's last top-ten rock hit "The Calling" were inspired by singer Jon Anderson's concept of "local history"?

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 18:58, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• Length and date verified, offline hook ref (Google Book with no preview) accepted in good faith. —Bruce1ee 06:07, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Fowey Lifeboat Station

• ... that Fowey Lifeboat Station was opened in the nearby village of Polkerris in 1859, and was not moved into the town of Fowey itself until 1922?

Created by Geof Sheppard (talk). Self nom at 17:02, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

St Mary Magdalene's Church, Battlefield

• ... that St Mary Magdalene's Church, Battlefield, Shropshire, (pictured) is built on the site of the Battle of Shrewsbury that took place in 1403?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Hamersley & Robe River railway

• ... that, with 1,300 kilometres (810 mi) of track, Rio Tinto's Hamersley & Robe River railway is the largest privately owned heavy freight rail network in Australia?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 14:35, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• Absolutely not. The hook is copied verbatim from . This article also contains multiple copyvios. The "Trains" section, which I marked, is copied from . In the "History" section, "would increase competition, stop infrastructure double-ups and reduce damage to sensitive native title and environmental regions" is copied from . I ask that you cease encroaching upon the core policy of WP:COPYVIO. Whwya (talk) 08:01, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

See Talk:Hammersley & Robe River railway for more. Calistemon (talk) 08:48, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Alterations to the text of the article have been made to address any perceived copyright problems. Calistemon (talk) 12:20, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Yuri Alcantara

• ... that after beating the highly touted prospect Francisco "Massaranduba" Drinaldo via armbar, Yuri Alcantara was signed by World Extreme Cagefighting to appear on their last ever event?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 13:04, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Polavaram Project

• ... that though the Polavaram Project was conceptualized in 1941 by the erstwhile Madras Presidency, it obtained environmental clearance for construction only in 2005?

Created by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 12:52, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

ALT 1 ... that the intention of the Polavaram Project was not only to benefit a cultivated command area of 175,000 hectares (430,000 acres), but also to supply water to coastal city of Visakhapatnam?

ALT 2 ... that because the Polavaram Project would submerge 246 villages, it attracted roadblocks from human rights and environmental activists, political parties and neighboring governments? Mspraveen (talk) 12:58, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Kapuas River twins

• ... that two major rivers of Borneo originate in the same area, flow in different directions, but have the same name?

• Comment: There are dozens of way to put it, and mine is likely far from the best. DYK check tool fails on one of the articles (for unknown reason) - if so, check size of pre/post expansion versions. Materialscientist (talk) 07:16, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 07:16, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• 5x expansion/new articles verified (recent vandalism in the first article, just pushed it below a 5x, but now my c/e has pushed it over even with that). I suggest:

ALT1 ... that two major rivers of Borneo originate in the same mountain range, discharge into different seas, but have the same name?

Can someone check/comment on this hook? SmartSE (talk) 00:24, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Sounds fine with me, thanks (but I am the nominator here).Materialscientist (talk) 09:32, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on November 5

Michael Willian Costa

• ... that Michael Willian Costa is a mixed martial arts fighter who competes in the strawweight (115lbs) division?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 10:40, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

No Mercy (2000)

• ... that a match at the World Wrestling Federation's No Mercy (2000) event resulted from one wrestler hitting another with a car to protest racism?

5x expanded by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 05:57, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Newhouse Research Site

• ... that the Newhouse Research Site (pictured) is currently the largest private drug discovery centre in Scotland?

• ALT1:... that the Newhouse Research Site (pictured) was responsible for the identification of rocuronium and selective relaxant binding agent?

Created by Rb401 (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 23:00, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Rio Tinto mines

• ... that in 2009, Rio Tinto's Pilbara operations, consisting of the Brockman 2, Channar, Eastern Range, Hope Downs, Marandoo, Mesa A, Mesa J, Mount Tom Price, Nammuldi, Paraburdoo, West Angelas and Yandicoogina mines, produced 202 million tonnes of iron ore, accounting for almost 13% of the world production?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 07:37, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Fisherton Delamere

• ... that the civil parish of Fisherton Delamere (church pictured) was extinguished in 1934?

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 07:02, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Lucan portrait of Leonardo da Vinci

• ... that The Lucan portrait of Leonardo da Vinci (pictured) is a recently discovered painting believed by some experts to be a self-portrait of Leonardo da Vinci?

Created by Amandajm (talk). Nominated by JNW (talk) at 18:31, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Charles A. Miller House

• ... that the Charles A. Miller House (pictured) was built for the oldest funeral director in Cincinnati, Ohio?

5x expanded by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 13:58, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Erick Silva

• ... that Erick Silva competed in "one of the wettest events in MMA history" when the outdoor event was subjected to torrential rain?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 16:35, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• Alt1: that martial artist Erick Silva competed in "one of the wettest events in MMA history" when the outdoor event was subjected to torrential rain? (Bit of background for the unfamiliar.) 97198 (talk) 14:13, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Alderney Society Museum

• ... that the artefacts on display at the Alderney Society Museum are as diverse as 1940 census papers, cinery urns, dulcie cups, and curry powder bottles?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 10:16, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Mignot Memorial Hospital, Alderney

• ... that the Mignot Memorial Hospital in Alderney is not covered by the National Health Service?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 10:12, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Spencer's Pilots

• ... that the short-lived 1976 CBS adventure series Spencer's Pilots starred character actor Gene Evans as the owner of a small aviation company?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 06:35, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Abraham Curry, Eagle Valley (Nevada)

• ... that Abraham Curry (pictured) and his business partners purchased a large portion of Eagle Valley for a $300 down payment and set aside 10 of its acres to build the Nevada State Capitol?

Created by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 05:17, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

West Shore (magazine)

• ... that the magazine West Shore (example cover pictured) was published in Portland, Oregon and was well known for its excellent illustrations of Pacific Northwest scenery, architecture, and commerce?

Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 02:46, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Kanimozhi (film)

• ... that the forthcoming Tamil film Kanimozhi starring Jai and Shazahn Padamsee, was named after politician M. K. Kanimozhi and had its soundtrack released by her father, M. Karunanidhi?

5x expanded by Universal Hero (talk). Self nom at 23:01, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Johnny Hope

• ... that burglar Johnny Hope's father Jimmy, also a burglar, died a year before his son did??

Created by 71.184.56.180 (talk). Nominated by Alpha Quadrant (talk) at 18:27, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

George Cumberland

• ... that the last engraving by William Blake was a visiting card for his friend George Cumberland, which Blake decorated with children hoop rolling and flying kites?

Created by Aegoceras (talk). Self nom at 18:22, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Summit cross

• ... that in April 2010 the world's first glass summit cross was erected on the Schartwand (2,339 m) in Salzburg's Tennengebirge mountains?

Created by Bermicourt (talk). Self nom at 17:25, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Ducoudray Holstein Expedition

• ... that the Ducoudray Holstein Expedition was an attempted plot to invade Puerto Rico and declare it a republic in 1822?

Created by El Johnson (talk). Self nom at 16:50, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Alt1:... that the Ducoudray Holstein Expedition intended to declare Puerto Rico a republic and estabish its capital in the western city of Mayagüez?

Mount Newman railway

• ... that on 21 June 2001, on the Mount Newman railway, a BHP Billiton iron ore train consisting of 682 cars broke the world record for the heaviest train, weighing 99,734 tons and being 7.3 kilometres long?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 15:42, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

St Leonard's Church, Bridgnorth

• ... that the aisles of St Leonard's Church, Bridgnorth, Shropshire, (tower pictured) were destroyed when stored ammunition was ignited by cannon fire in the Civil War in 1646?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:35, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Promised Land (CBC Radio One)

• ... that during the recording of the CBC Radio One program Promised Land, presenter Natasha Fatah reportedly broke down in tears in response to her interviewees' stories about being a refugee?

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 15:29, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Li Gang incident

• ... that my dad is Li Gang! was yelled by the son of a Chinese police officer, convinced he would avoid facing criminal consequences?

Created by Comte0 (talk). Self nom at 15:23, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Perhaps clarify a bit with "...was yelled by the son of a Chinese police officer after hitting and killing a pedestrian whilst drunk, convinced..." - readers might want to know why he was yelling. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 04:45, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• I think it's good: the link on criminal refers to the hitting and killing, and the second part of the hook is the reason why he yelled. I then feel your version to be somewhat too long. Some words might be added about the driver being drunk, but he is actually charged for criminal negligence. Regards, Comte0 (talk) 08:44, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that a Chinese police officer's son, convinced that he would avoid facing criminal consequences after hitting a pedestrian, yelled "My dad is Li Gang!"? - PM800 (talk) 08:57, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Support this alt. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 09:05, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Why not. I added the missing question mark ;) Comte0 (talk) 12:26, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• This article seems to contain some close paraphrasing or borderline plagiarism. For example:

• Source: "the other, 19, suffered a fractured left leg and is in stable condition"

Article: "The other, Zhang Jingjing, 19, suffered a fractured left leg and was left in stable condition"

• Source: "Li Gang wept in an apology during an interview with China Central Television on Oct. 21. Li Qiming also apologized in a video released on Oct. 22."

Article: "Li Gang wept in an apology during an interview with China Central Television on 21 October. Li Qiming also apologized in a video released on 22 October"

• Source: "The director asked lawyer Zhang Kai to terminate his representation in this case because the law firm has been cautioned by Beijing Bureau of Justice"

Article: "On November 1, Zhang Kai . . . was asked to terminate his representation in this case because the law firm has been cautioned by Beijing Bureau of Justice"

• These (and possibly others) must be rewritten in your own words before the article can appear on DYK. Intelligentsium 00:19, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• I can do that tonight. However, I'm french, and I think that what you've pointed out clearly falls outside of the copyright laws. Regards, Comte0 (talk) 07:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Regardless of copyright laws, the DYK rules don't really allow it, and I recall seeing something similar on a WP policy page somewhere. Also, the Misplaced Pages servers are located in Florida, and not France; hence French laws don't apply to Misplaced Pages. I could paraphrase them if you like. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 08:52, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Paraphrasing done. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 08:59, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Thank you! Comte0 (talk) 20:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Okomu National Park

• ... that the Okomu National Park in Nigeria, home to many rare species, is severely threatened by illegal forestry?

5x expanded by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 14:28, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that the Okomu and Cross River national parks in Nigeria, both home to many rare species including Chimpanzees, are both increasingly threatened by illegal forestry?

This would combine two articles in one hook. Aymatth2 (talk) 17:05, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Teslim Balogun

• ... that Teslim Balogun became the first Nigerian footballer to play in the Football League, before later qualifying as the first African professional coach?

Created by GiantSnowman (talk). Self nom at 14:26, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 6

William Dennison Clark

• ... that William Dennison Clark (pictured), whose "wretched blunder" in 1905 ended Michigan's 56-game unbeaten streak in football, killed himself 27 years later, expressing the hope to atone for his error?

Created/expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:58, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Latin Recording Academy Person of the Year

• ... that Cuban American singer Gloria Estefan became the first female recipient of the Latin Recording Academy Person of the Year award in 2008?

5x expanded by Another Believer (talk). Self nom at 21:58, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Crissal Thrasher

• ... that even when the Crissal Thrasher is disturbed by a person or a predator, the bird is likely to run away for cover?

5x expanded by Joe Chill (talk). Self nom at 21:32, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Norwich Market

• ... that in the 16th century people convicted of sedition had their ears nailed to the pillory in Norwich Market, and when their pillory time was completed their ears were cut off?

5x expanded by Iridescent (talk). Self nom at 18:19, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Salt industry in Syracuse, New York

• ... that until the end of the 19th century, the bulk of the salt used in the United States came from salt producers in Syracuse, New York?

Created by Nconwaymicelli (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 12:18, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• I have left a note on the author's usertalkpage to remind him/her to avoid close paraphrasing. If there's no improvements in the article within the next week or so, please disregard this nomination. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 14:18, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I hope this is good enough improvement in the eyes of those who really want to avoid close paraphrasing. --PFHLai (talk) 04:56, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

List of incidents of grave disorder in the British House of Commons

• ... that grave disorder has broken out 27 times in the House of Commons since 1902, including mass brawls, organised disruption, and things being thrown from the gallery?

Created by User:Sam Blacketer (talk). Self nom at 10:24, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Lists need 1500 characters of prose to meet DYK requirements. Would it be possible to manage this? SmartSE (talk) 20:35, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Jule Sugarman

• ... that Jule Sugarman helped design and administer the Head Start Program, which and has served 27 million American children from low-income families since its inception its inception in 1965?

Created by Bongomatic (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:29, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

The Shadows (EP), The Shadows to the Fore, Spotlight on The Shadows, The Boys (The Shadows EP)

• ... that the eponymous extended play by The Shadows, The Shadows to the Fore, Spotlight on The Shadows and The Boys all were number-one EPs in the UK?

Created by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 00:52, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Venues of the 1972 Winter Olympics

• ... that a malfunctioning starting gate at the luge venue during the men's doubles event at the 1972 Winter Olympics in Sapporo would lead to the only tie in Olympic luge history?

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 20:48, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1... that a reserve luge venue was constructed for the 1972 Winter Olympics in Sapporo, but was never used in actual competition? Chris (talk) 20:50, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Belvedere, United States Virgin Islands and Sugar production in the United States Virgin Islands

• ... that Belvedere, one of the historical centres of Sugar production in the United States Virgin Islands, contains a villa hotel which has been converted from an old sugar mill?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 14:14, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Allan J. Kuethe

• ... that Allan J. Kuethe, an historian of Latin American studies, worked to establish the Texas Tech University Center in Seville, Spain?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:46, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• This current version of the article looks like it includes the biographies of two different people. That can't be good. - PM800 (talk) 11:30, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Dogdyke_Engine

• ... that Dogdyke Engine is the one Fenland Steam Drainage engine regularly run under steam?

Created by Robert EA Harvey (talk). Self nom at 22:38, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• You might want to review the DYK instructions for formatting your hook because the main article is not linked to or even mentioned in it. As it is, the actual article (Dogdyke Engine) does not have enough characters of prose to be eligible. - PM800 (talk) 22:48, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• I've made it longer. I preferred the concise version, it made people look around more.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 00:08, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Frida Svensson

• ... that Frida Svensson won Swedens first gold medal in the women's single sculls since 1995 at the 2010 World Rowing Championships in Lake Karapiro?

--BabbaQ (talk) 21:42, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

I can't say "no" outright, but if it's going to make the DYK cut, it'll need significant expansion. It only has 462 out of the 1500 characters of prose required. You have four more days before the article becomes completely ineligible. --Dil 00:30, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

St Swithun's Church, Worcester

• ... that St Swithun's Church, Worcester (pictured), is described as "one of the best preserved examples of an early Georgian church in England"?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 18:42, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• (checked using DYKcheck) Meets all of the requirements. --Dylan620 01:52, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Jim Landtroop

• ... that newly-elected Republican State Representative Jim Landtroop of Plainview, Texas, vows to "tell Washington, D.C., that Texans can govern themselves"?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 17:23, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

ALT1... that newly-elected Republican State Representative Jim Landtroop is also a winning varsity basketball coach at a Christian academy in Plainview, Texas?

ALT2... that newly-elected Republican State Representative Jim Landtroop of Texas ran his campaign in part on opposition to U.S. President Barack Obama's health-care plan?

• All fine. I prefer ALT2. Diego Grez (talk) 03:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Comment - I'm less keen on ALT2 as it seems overtly political, verging on WP:POINTy. I prefer ALT1 for the contrast between the different parts of his life.Le Deluge (talk) 17:04, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Hinomoto Oniko

• ... that Hinomoto Oniko is a moe anthropomorphism of an ethnic slur against Japanese created by 2channel users, themselves being Japanese?

Created by Dayfish (talk). 5x expanded by Benlisquare (talk). Nominated by Benlisquare (talk) at 15:51, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1: "... that Hinomoto Oniko is a moe anthropomorphism of an ethnic slur created by 2channel users?" - use this one if it seems less confusing to the reader. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 15:55, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
• Also a brief comment that I may not be able to participate in discussions in the next few days due to examinations; I'll try my best though. Others are certainly welcome to make decisions if I am unable to. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 15:57, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Nasrani Hagbah

• ... that the Nasrani Hagbah of the Syrian Malabar Nasrani people in Kerala South India consists of the unveiling of red curtain separating the holy of holies in the tradition of the ancient temple of Jerusalem?

Created by Robin klein (talk). Self nom at 11:25, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

James Greenway

• ... that American ornithologist James Greenway was so averse to large gatherings that he probably never attended a single professional meeting or congress in his life?

Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 11:11, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• I'm a bit unsure of the "probably" in the hook, as it makes it sound a bit stupid, although this is what the source states... How about something based on "he avoided large gatherings like the plague"? The article has also been tagged with {{obituary}}, which needs to be resolved before it reaches the main page and if you can find any other sources that would be good too. SmartSE (talk) 20:54, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for the constructive suggestion. However, maybe I should just withdraw the nomination or let it lapse. I would happily leave out the 'probably' if possible, or go with your alternate. I found it very difficult to obtain other sources that give any useful extra details about his life; he seems to have been a very reclusive person who kept his private life very private, and lived his professional life in the shadows. As for the 'obituary' tag, I think it misplaced in the circumstances, but it is not up to me to remove it. Maias (talk) 00:21, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Stark's Knob

• ... that although it is thought that Stark's Knob originated in the Connecticut River Valley, it lies next to the Hudson River, over sixty miles away?

5x expanded by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 04:30, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that the upthrust of Stark's Knob has been studied using snails in pillows? Le Deluge (talk) 11:52, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• I've been looking into the sources cited in the article and also scientific papers about this site, and I'm not convinced that the first hook is exactly true. Additionally, the article doesn't mention the 60 mile distance from the Connecticut River Valley. As for ALT1, I scrossed out the upthrust part because Stark's Knob is not an upthrust; the rest of the hook is sort of supported by sources (if you consider gastropod fossils to be "snails" and pillow lava to be "pillows") but I think it's excessively cute and deceptive. I think there's an interesting and non-deceptive hook to be extracted from this article, but I don't yet know what it is going to be. --Orlady (talk) 01:29, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree with you that the second one sounds weird because it sounds like something that would be appropriate on an April Fools Day run. If nothing else appears boosting my statement anytime soon, I can whip up another hook. I will though ax the mile thing as it is a bit of unintentional original research on my part. Kevin Rutherford (talk)

:Lay is transitive: that means it requires an object. Corrected to lies--Wetman (talk) 05:42, 7 November 2010 (UTC)`

• An upthrust is not a structure, it's a process, in this case the process that has moved these rocks from below sea level to high on land, so I've removed the strikeout. And individual structures within a marine lava are called "pillows", there's no "consider" about it. Just IMO Orlady, I think you need to relax a bit on the hooks - these are the equivalent of newspaper headlines to pique people's interest and get them to click through and read a shiny new article on a subject they would normally not look at. A "dry" hook like the original might showcase the article to 2000 people, something more eyecatching might get 10,000 or 20,000. I think Ktr101's hard work deserves to be showcased to as many people as possible, and that means using common names like "snails" in the hook, if people care about the detail as much as you do, the article will clarify that the term is referring to Ordovician fossils. However I note that the reference talks about snails rather than gastropods, Orlady you really shouldn't make things up that aren't in the references.... <g> Ktr101 - quirky hooks aren't just for April Fools, WP:DYK/A J7 positively encourages a quirky in every DYK run but now you mention it, ALT1 might well be suitable for the kudos of a April Fool DYK. This is a good thing. Le Deluge (talk) 10:16, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• You will note that I said that I have been reading scientific publications about Stark's knob, with the intent of adding additional sources to the article. The "geology" fact sheet that is cited in the article appears to have been written by someone (probably a professional PR person) who didn't fully understand the topic; I say that because it doesn't make sense from a technical perspective. As for "upthrust," you will not find the term "upthrust" in the Misplaced Pages articles thrust fault and thrust tectonics because it's not a valid term, nor a technically correct description of the nature of thrust faulting. The sense of movement in thrust faulting is primarily lateral, not upward. --Orlady (talk) 18:30, 7 November 2010 (UTC) As for relaxing my standards on hooks, please note that I have been reviewing hooks here (on-again, off-again) for nearly 3 years, and I happen to believe that it is important to try to maintain quality here. You might note that DYK has been under attack recently due to the perception that reviewers have not been maintaining standards. --Orlady (talk) 18:39, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• I said "relax", as opposed to "relax your standards" - there's a difference... You may have been reading around the subject, but you would be the first to complain about stuff in a hook that wasn't mentioned and reffed in an article. I think you've just made the point that "snail" is the WP:COMMONNAME for "shelly gastropod", and it's certainly a common shorthand used by the pros (eg Niles Eldredge of a Silurian species), and hooks should use common language where possible. Since you regard presence in Wikimedia projects as some kind of benchmark, I would draw your attention to wikt:upthrust; alternatively the geological sense is the only meaning of the word in my OED, first recorded in 1846. It's more of a field geology term than something to be used when talking about regional processes, it's certainly in common use in the field, because vertical movement of something that was below sea level is much more evident than a lateral movement that is potentially much greater in size. Given that we're talking about the history of a specific rock in the field, "upthrust" seems appropriate in this context.Le Deluge (talk) 16:01, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• Upthrust could be linked to thrust tectonics and snail should probably be linked to gastropod and pillow needs to be linked to pillow lava, I think. However, the snails are only used for dating the rocks, it's the shape of the pillows that has been used to understand the geometry of the upthrust block. If you want to keep the snails, how about

• ALT2 ... that the history of the upthrust Stark's Knob has been studied using pillows and the snails found inside them? Mikenorton (talk) 11:09, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• The study of the upthrust process includes both its geometry and its timing, and the snails put a fundamental boundary on the latter - it could not have happened in the Cambrian for instance. So there's no need to include "history". To be honest, I think it's a mistake to overlink a hook like ALT1/2 that relies on its ambiguity to pique readers' curiosity. Linking to gastropod won't give much away, but linking to pillow lava and thrust tectonics will reduce the number of clickthroughs to the new article - which is the whole aim of DYK. Too many wikilinks reduce the hookiness of this style of hook.Le Deluge (talk) 19:13, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• You're right Le Deluge, the age of the lavas is a key piece of evidence telling us that this a thrust sheet, I thought about that the moment I woke up this morning, so yes we can lose history. I'm not sure that I agree about linking in the hook, I probably tend to link anything that I think that the average reader won't understand, but I see your point as well. Mikenorton (talk) 00:35, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Actually Le Deluge, I find that being ambiguous causes more people to go to the article because they try to figure out what the hook is all about, but that is just my opinion. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 20:33, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• @Kevin, you're agreeing with me, I'm saying that ambiguity is good for clickthroughs, but wikilinking terms other than the target article can reduce the ambiguity and hence reduce clickthroughs. @Mike - if you're dreaming about DYK hooks, it's probably time to take a wikibreak! <g> The average reader can always use wikilinks within the article even if they're not in the hook.Le Deluge (talk) 16:01, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Okay, so now that the debate is over, what hook should be used? One is scientific, and two has good humor and intrigue. Number three just sounds a bit off in my opinion. I'm all for the first two though since one is intriguing while the other is intriguing and funny at the same time. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 01:40, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Royal Lichtenstein Quarter-Ring Sidewalk Circus

• ... that the Royal Lichtenstein Quarter-Ring Sidewalk Circus was a street theatre troupe that toured the United States between 1971 and 1993 that was also a ministry of the California Jesuits?

Created by Dgabbard (talk). Self nom at 03:06, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that the Royal Lichtenstein Quarter-Ring Sidewalk Circus was a street theatre troupe and also a ministry of the California Jesuits? Comte0 (talk) 06:39, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Youcef Nadarkhani

• ... that Youcef Nadarkhani, on death row, could become the first Christian executed in Iran for religious reasons in over 20 years?

Created by NorthernFalcon (talk). Self nom at , 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• Well, he "could become" the first, but he hasn't yet. The hook should be a fact that isn't likely to change. Also, I don't think those sources are very reliable. - PM800 (talk) 05:35, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Pediatric trauma

• ... that pediatric trauma (pictured) accounted for 59.5% of all mortality in the United States for children in 2004?

• ALT1:... that since children's organs are closer in proximity they are at a higher risk for some form of pediatric trauma (pictured)?

Created by Peter.C (talk), DiverDave (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 7

Hub Hart

• ... that James "Hub" Hart was the best catcher in college baseball at the same time that he was an All-American for football?

Created by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 00:34, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Geoffrey Crawley

• ... that Arthur Conan Doyle used photos of the Cottingley Fairies (pictured) to prove the existence of supernatural entities, though an analysis of the images by Geoffrey Crawley showed that they were a hoax?

Created by Bongomatic (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Two-Timing Touch and Broken Bones

• ... that it was suggested for The Hives' to rename their 2004 hit to "too dumb, and Dutch and broken bones"?

• Comment: article in AfD now, but the nominator has changed to "weak keep", I believe it will not be deleted, but wanted to list this as the AfD process can take some time. If it passes, I will update here, if it is deleted, I will remove this nomination

5x expanded by Theornamentalist (talk). Self nom at 16:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Mad in America

• ... that Mad in America was a 2002 critique of psychiatry written by American journalist Robert Whitaker?

5x expanded by Casliber (talk), SusanLesch (talk), Tijfo098 (talk). Self nom at 13:29, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that a Medscape review of Mad in America said that the book looks as if it were "commissioned by Scientologists"?

Secunderabad Clock Tower

• ... that the Secunderabad Clock Tower (pictured), which was inaugurated in 1897, was erected in the honor of the progress made by the British officers posted at the Secunderabad Cantonment?

Created by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 13:18, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Victor Stolan

• ... that Victor Stolan after reading articles by Julian Huxley on the disappearance of Africa's wildlife wrote to him with "the germ of the idea" that led to the World Wildlife Fund?

Created by LittleHow (talk). Self nom at 04:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• I've removed the non-free image which is not allowed on any other page (especially the main page) due to non-free content criteria. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 12:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Great Migrations

• ... that Great Migrations, the largest programming event of the National Geographic Channel, is part of the largest cross-platform initiative since the founding of the National Geographic Society in 1888?

Created by AngChenrui (talk). Self nom at 04:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• A bit short at ~1,200 characters of prose. 97198 (talk) 13:37, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
  • I've expanded it. It definitely passes the 1,500-characters criterion now. ANGCHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 15:11, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
• I added "in 1888" to the hook even though its not present in the article, just to spice things up. By logical extension, the clause fits since NGS was founded in 1888. Thanks. ANGCHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 07:36, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Everything looks good; I also moved the reference to immediately after the hook fact per DYK rules. 97198 (talk) 10:31, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

First and Second Battle of Wonju

• ... that French Battalion's bayonet charges at the Battle of Wonju impressed General Ridgway to encouraged all American units to conduct bayonet fighting during the Korean War?

Created by Jim101 (talk). Self nom at 03:55, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Adriatic Croatia International Club

• ... that with 21 marinas along the Croatian coast ACI Club is the single largest marina chain in the Mediterranean?

Created by Timbouctou (talk). Self nom at 03:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Monadnock Building

• ... that the staircases in the 1891 Monadnock Building in Chicago (pictured) were the first use of aluminum in a building?

5x expanded by Nasty Housecat (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Second use in architecture in America, according to this - possibly a reference to the tip of the 1884 Washington Monument? I guess it depends on your definition of a "building", it's still interesting though. Le Deluge (talk) 17:06, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• That's correct. The source refers it as the second architectural use of aluminum, the first being the tip of the Washington Monument (see p. 84). The Monadnock is significant in its use of that then exotic metal in the actual construction of a building, hence the wording. If more clarity is called for, perhaps "first interior use of aluminum in a building" would do it. --Nasty Housecat (talk) 03:08, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I've Got Nothing

• ... that the 2009 single "I've Got Nothing" was written entirely through crowdsourcing in 10 weeks?

Created by Vobedd731 (talk). Self nom at 23:41, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Comment If it makes any difference, the single was released on the 9 November last year, so it'd be pretty cool if this fact could appear on the front page on its one year anniversary (i.e. two days' time). If not, don't worry about it, it's just a suggestion. Vobedd731 (talk) 23:41, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Jo-Jo Morrisey

• ... that prior to the 1933 Cincinnati Reds season, a newspaper reported that Jo-Jo Morrissey "developed amazingly" yet he was fifth in the league in errors and batted .230

Created by Secret (talk). Self nom at 20:45, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Deorbit of Mir

• ... that during deorbit of Mir space station the New Zealand authorities issued international warnings to ships and aircraft travelling in the South Pacific?

Created by Twilight Chill (talk). Self nom at 20:39, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• The lead was copied from Mir#Final days and deorbit and the article is not 5x expanded from that, so I'm not sure if this is eligible for DYK. SmartSE (talk) 20:44, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Those are major details, it's not possible to write something different. But even without lead the article is long enough (about 2,200 prose characters) and the hook doesn't come from the lead. Twilightchill t 21:53, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
    • I don't think that counts as "new" per WP:DYK/A A5. If the text was copied and then 5x expanded it would be eligible, but it hasn't been. Can someone else check me on this? SmartSE (talk) 14:53, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Crumblin' Down

• ... that John Cougar Mellencamp's top-ten hit "Crumblin' Down" was partially inspired by his cousin losing his job as an electrical engineer?

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 17:44, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1:... that "Crumblin' Down" was John Cougar Mellencamp's first single released with his real last name?

William Austin Burt, typographer, solar compass, equatorial sextant

• ... that William Austin Burt was the first to invent a workable typewriter in America, as well as a workable solar compass (pictured), a non-magnetic dependant surveying instrument, and an equatorial sextant, a precision navigational aid to determine with one observation the location of a ship at sea?

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 17:36, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Comment: Note that this is a Four-in-One hook.

ALT1: ... that William Austin Burt was the first to invent a workable typewriter in America, as well as a workable solar compass (pictured), an astronomical dependant surveying instrument, and an equatorial sextant, a precision navigational aid to determine with one observation the location of a ship at sea?

ALT2: ... that William Austin Burt was the first to invent a workable typewriter in America, as well as a workable solar compass (pictured), a solar use surveying instrument, and an equatorial sextant, a precision navigational aid to determine with one observation the location of a ship at sea?

Luis Daoiz de Torres

Man in blue tunic and white breeches of the Spanish artillery officers uniform of the Napoleonic era

• ... that Luis Daoiz de Torres (pictured), one of the leaders of the Dos de Mayo Uprising in 1808 has ancestors who fought for Spain since the 13th century?

• ALT1:... that on 2 May 1808 Luis Daoiz de Torres (pictured) held off 2,000 French troops for three hours with just 120 Spanish soldiers and civilians?
• ALT2:... that Captain Luis Daoiz de Torres (pictured) refused orders to hand over his barracks to French troops during the Dos de Mayo Uprising and was killed in the ensuing attack?

Created by Dumelow (talk). Self nom at 15:50, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Alan Huggins

• ... that Sir Alan Huggins was one of the first non-permanent Hong Kong judges of the Hong Kong Court of Final Appeal appointed in 1997?

Created by Clithering (talk). Self nom at 15:37, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Length and date OK, AGF on offline hook reference. 28bytes (talk) 21:06, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Kjeld Rimberg

• ... that when Kjeld Rimberg resigned after thirteen months as CEO of the Norwegian State Railways, he cited political regulations as the reason?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 15:28, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

List of UNESCO World Heritage Sites in India

• ... that UNESCO recognizes 28 World Heritage Sites in India , as of 2010 with the Jantar Mantar, Jaipur (pictured), a collection of architectural astronomical instruments as the latest?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 13:03, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Made slight additions to the hook to fit an img.-- N.V.V. Char . 13:49, 7 November 2010 (UTC)*

TV pickup

• ... that the British National Grid saw a record 2800MW increase in demand due to the boiling of kettles and the opening of fridge doors after the 1990 FIFA World Cup Semi-Final between England and West Germany?

Created by Dumelow (talk). Self nom at 10:13, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Creation date and length verified. Hook sentence in article does not have reference. Please make inline citation. Interesting concept. The Interior(Talk) 06:51, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Wadjemup Lighthouse

• ... that Wadjemup Lighthouse (pictured) was Australia's first rotating beam lighthouse?

Created/expanded by Moondyne (talk). Self nom at 06:53, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length and hook reference verified. 28bytes (talk) 03:36, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

2001 NBDL Draft, 2006 NBA Development League Expansion Draft, 2001 NBDL Supplemental Draft

• ... that four players selected in both the 2001 NBDL Draft and 2006 NBA Development League Expansion Draft had also previously been picked in NBA Drafts, while Kaniel Dickens was the only All-Star to come out of the 2001 NBDL Supplemental Draft?

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 04:17, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

My Idiot Brother

• ... that the upcoming film My Idiot Brother went into production unusually quickly for an independent film, with a first cut to be completed less than a year after the script was written?

5x expanded by 97198 (talk). Self nom at 07:16, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Ayame Koike

• ... that Ayame Koike was one of three receivers of the Judges' Special Acting Award from the Japan Movie Critics Awards in recognition of their performance in Always Zoku Sanchōme no Yūhi?

Created by Ike-bana (talk). Self nom at 11:20, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• "receivers"? How about "winners" or "recipients"? --PFHLai (talk) 04:02, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Mm, yes, I think recipients would be better. Thank you. --生け花 10:42, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that Ayame Koike was one of three recipients of the Judges' Special Acting Award from the Japan Movie Critics Awards in recognition of their performance in Always Zoku Sanchōme no Yūhi?

1950–51 Ashes series

• ... ... that the rainstorm that caused 20 wickets to fall on the third day of the First Test in the 1950–51 Ashes series was blamed on the atomic bomb experiment carried out by the Americans on Bikini Atoll (pictured)?

Created by Philip Jelley (talk). Self nom at 21:05, 7 November 2010 (GMT)

• This article was started by Philipjelley (talk · contribs) on October 11, 2010, so this is not a brand new article. And, there's no evidence of page-moving out of a personal sandbox. Article continued to grow but there was no 5-fold expansion in the last 5 days. Shall we cut this DYK-rookie some slack? Philip, please see the rules at WP:DYK. Good luck. --PFHLai (talk) 03:49, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• It's a fantastically bonkers hook, so it's got me on side from the start, even if it was just an old wives' tale. 20 wickets falling in a day is fairly unusual, and at that time the Ashes series was unquestionably the premier event in cricket, so 20 wickets in an Ashes match is a pretty big deal. It looks like the fact was added at 18:44 on 18 Oct, so just under a week after the article was created, so probably would have just about squeezed in if it had been nominated at the time - and there would have been no problems with length if it had been nominated then, it's obviously been a labour of love. And encouraging newbies is A Good Thing. Set against that, I'd understand arguments about slippery slopes, and how long do you give people. It's also a bit "chatty" in tone, it could do with some copyediting to a more encyclopaedic style. So it's not a no-brainer, but I'd tend to support cutting him some slack, given that it's less than a month since creation and it's still under active growth, but mostly because it's such an arresting hook. Le Deluge (talk) 17:30, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Liam Walsh (boxer)

• ... that the new Commonwealth boxing champion Liam Walsh is one of three brothers, all of whom made their pro boxing debuts on the same night?

Created/expanded by Notjamesbond (talk). Self nom at 17:44, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Please wikify the hook and the article and clarify which "Commonwealth boxing championship" this is about. I did a text-search on Boxing at the 2010 Commonwealth Games and List of Commonwealth Boxing Council Champions, but couldn't find the word "Walsh". Please update as needed. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 03:59, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Length, creation, refs all check out. Misplaced Pages is not a WP:RS, PFHLai, List of Commonwealth Boxing Council Champions just hasn't been updated yet. Le Deluge (talk) 13:41, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder, Le Deluge. I was just asking how I should wikify the word "Commonwealth".... :-) --PFHLai (talk) 04:48, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Shake It Up (TV series)

• ... that Disney Channel veteran Selena Gomez (pictured) sings the theme song for the new Disney series, Shake It Up'?

5x expanded by Candyo32 (talk). Nominated by Candyo32 (talk) at 02:27, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Thyrotoxic periodic paralysis

• ... that an overactive thyroid gland can cause attacks of paralysis, particularly in young men of Chinese and Japanese origin?

Created by Jfdwolff (talk). Self nom at 16:34, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 8

George J. Geis and Kutkai

• ... that American Baptist missionary George J. Geis was working at the Kachin Bible Training School he had established in Kutkai at the time of his death in 1936?

Created by Aymatth2 (talk) and Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:49, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

World War II Allied names for Japanese aircraft

• ... that during World War II, when a new model of the Mitsubishi 'Zero' (pictured) received its American code name, the prominent general it was named after wasn't very amused?

Created by Cla68 (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 01:02, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Venues of the 1972 Summer Olympics

• ... that a 25 km (16 mi) stretch of the German Autobahn near Munich served as the venue for the cycling road team time trial event at the 1972 Summer Olympics?

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 15:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

St Matthew's Church, Langford

• ... that St Matthew's Church, Langford, Oxfordshire, England has two Saxon carved stone reliefs of the crucifixion of Christ), and that in one of them Christ's left and right arms have been swapped over?

Created by Motacilla (talk). Self nom at 12:18, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Lloyd Morain

• ... that philanthropist Lloyd Morain read palms in Hollywood before a career as a utilities executive, and, uniquely, served two terms as president of the American Humanist Association?

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 08:56, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Było sobie miasteczko...

• ... that the murder of worshipers in Kysylyn during the massacres of Poles in Volhynia became the subject of a 2009 historical documentary film for Telewizja Polska?

Created by FoliesTrévise (talk). Self nom at 01:51, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Paul H. Carlson

• ... that Paul H. Carlson, historian of the American West, once likened the cowboy to a "symbolic yardstick against which modern men might measure their own manhood"?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:26, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

ALT1:... that the historian Paul H. Carlson wrote the revisionist biography of the Spanish-American War General William Rufus Shafter?

ALT2:... that historian Paul H. Carlson co-authored a revisionist study of the 1860 capture of Cynthia Ann Parker, seized by the Comanche in 1836, when she was a young girl?

Appianoporites, Margaretbarromyces, Quatsinoporites

• ... that Appianoporites, Margaretbarromyces, and Quatsinoporites are all fossil fungi from Vancouver Island, British Columbia?

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 00:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Leavenworth Nutcracker Museum

• ... that the curator of the Leavenworth Nutcracker Museum in Washington studied ballet under Russian prima ballerina Alexandra Danilova?

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 23:01, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Fernando Osorio

• ... that singer-songwriter Fernando Osorio wrote the last song recorded by Cuban performer Celia Cruz?

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 22:08, 8 November 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 22:07, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

NU 107

• ... that the Metro Manila radio station NU 107's program In the Raw was created as response to President Corazon Aquino's executive order of at least three Original Pilipino Music tracks per hour?

• Comment: Plenty of people (not just me) expanded the article since November 4.

5x expanded by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 19:35, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Masa Takayama

• ... that Michelin-starred chef Masa Takayama (pictured) would deliver food only to Marlon Brando?

• Comment: Now how's that for a fun hook? Thank you, People magazine!

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 18:42, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• A very interesting hook, but I can't find a citation confirming that he has -- as a chef -- received a Michelin star rating. cmadler (talk) 19:31, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• The description "Michelin starred chef" is for those chefs with restaurant(s) have earned Michelin stars. Since Michelin stars are only awarded for food (not ambiance/luxury which is a separate category), the stars are associated with the head chef. The other major rating scales, like those by AAA and Mobile/Forbes rate the whole restaurant together, so the ratings are not traditionally used as a description of the chefs themselves. By way of example, some chefs, like Joël Robuchon, are noted in reliable sources for being "the most Michelin-starred chef on the planet" (due to combined restaurants). Hence the category Category:Michelin Guide starred restaurants and chefs. Does that make sense? --Bobak (talk) 19:54, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Here are a few other useful/credible examples of the term "Michelin-Starred chef(s)": The Times of London --this one is actually quite a good example because, once the Michelin-starred chef left, the restaurant closed (note they call it "his first Michelin star"); they also talk about how the restaurant had been starred before with certain chefs --this similar article in The Independent hits the point home: when chefs "have walked out in a dispute over the direction of the business, taking the award with them". Also see The Telegraph, Financial Times, Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, Four Seasons hotel magazine, Air France, Chicago Sun-Times, Reuters, The Huntsville Times (lolwut?) --Bobak (talk) 20:12, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Which source supports the Michelin star claim for his restaurant? cmadler (talk) 20:31, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• D'oh... While it's mentioned in some of the more minor sources, I found several more to be on point; see edit. --Bobak (talk) 20:58, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Length, newness, hook, photo approved. cmadler (talk) 14:58, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Yin Yin Nwe

• ... that Yin Yin Nwe, a Burmese geologist, was appointed UNICEF Representative to China on December 1, 2006?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 18:32, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

All Saints Church, Billesley

• ... that in All Saints Church, Billesley, Warwickshire, (pictured) is a 12th-century carved stone probably depicting a Harrowing of Hell?

• ALT1:... that there is a tradition that William Shakespeare married Anne Hathaway in All Saints Church, Billesley, Warwickshire, (pictured), but this cannot be confirmed?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 17:53, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

St Peter's Church, Adderley

• ... that St Peter's Church, Adderley, Shropshire, (pictured) is divided into two parts, the nave being used as a parish church, and the rest preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust?

• ALT1:... that the font in St Peter's Church, Adderley, Shropshire, (pictured) has an inscription in Latin which translates as "Here wickedly the first man enjoyed the apple with his wife"?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:55, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Cuauhtémoc, D.F.

• ... that as many as 5 million people per day come into the Cuauhtémoc borough of Mexico City to work, shop or visit its cultural and historic sites?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 13:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Warlugulong

• ... that after hanging for nineteen years in a staff cafeteria, and eleven in a living room, Clifford Possum Tjapaltjarri's painting Warlugulong sold at auction in 2007 for a record-breaking A$2.4 million?

Created by Hamiltonstone (talk). Self nom at 11:56, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

2009 NBA Development League Expansion Draft

• ... that the entire 2009 NBA Development League Expansion Draft took place via teleconference?

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 04:39, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 9

Du Friedefürst, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 116

• ... that Bach's chorale cantata Du Friedefürst, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 116 contains a vocal trio, rare in his cantatas?

• Comment: This is meant to appear on 21 November, the 25th Sunday after Trinity for which it was written in 1724, which was the last Sunday after Trinity in 1724 and will be in 2010 - another hook possibility, but I don't know how to word it.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 10:53, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Isla Blair

• ... that when Paul McCartney offered Isla Blair a ride home, his fans attacked her?

5x expanded by Cryptic C62 (talk). Self nom at 02:00, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Andriza Mircovich

• ... that Andriza Mircovich (pictured) became the only prisoner in Nevada to be executed by a shooting machine after the state prison warden was unable to find five men willing to form a firing squad?

Created by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 00:21, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Tommy Brown (GM)

• ... that Tommy Brown was the only survivor from HMS Petard who boarded U-559 in order to retrieve documents which would later help break the Enigma code?

• ALT1:... that World War II canteen assistant Tommy Brown and two sailors boarded U-559 in order to retrieve documents which would later help break the Enigma code?
• ALT2:... that George Medal recipient Tommy Brown lied about his age in order to join the NAAFI during World War II?
• Comment: Not sure why the formatting is odd at the start of Alt2 - if someone could fix, I'd appreciate it. Miyagawa (talk) 00:05, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 00:05, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

When You Reach Me

• ... that Rebecca Stead came up to the idea for When You Reach Me after reading a newspaper article on a man who woke up in Denver with no memory of himself?

5x expanded by Derild4921 (talk). Self nom at 23:39, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Glee: The Music, Volume 4

• ... that an upcoming soundtrack album will feature actress Gwyneth Paltrow's censored version of Cee Lo Green's "Fuck You!" to be performed on Glee?

Created by Yvesnimmo (talk). Self nom at 23:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Consecration and entrustment to Mary

• ... that Saint Maximilian Kolbe was called the Apostle of Consecration to Mary?

Created by History2007 (talk). Self nom at 22:52, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: Here is the link to: verify the hook. History2007 (talk) 23:03, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Elizabeth Bisland

• ... that Elizabeth Bisland (pictured) lost a celebrated race around the world to Nellie Bly in 1889-90?

Created by Milowent (talk). Self nom at 21:52, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• Length, date, and sources checked. Nice article. - PM800 (talk) 22:11, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks! It was a pleasure to stumble upon this fascinating person, who history has short-shrifted in favor of Nellie Bly.--Milowent • 02:42, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Homeland Security Grant Program

• ... that during the 2010 fiscal year, the Department of Homeland Security will spend $1,786,359,956 on the Homeland Security Grant Program?

Created by Kcahlber (talk). Self nom at 19:23, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Action for Rural Rejuvenation

• ... that the city of Columbus, Ohio felicitated Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev, for the social programs and activities conducted by Action for Rural Rejuvenation?

Created by Regstuff (talk). Self nom at 09:02, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Strez

• ... that Saint Sava likely had a hand in the murder of 13th-century Bulgarian noble Strez, a largely independent ruler in Macedonia?

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 08:00, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Teffont Evias

• ... that Sir Walter Raleigh (pictured) mentions the church of Tevont Evias in his Discoverie of Guiana (1596)?

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 05:36, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Christopher Connor

• ... that Christopher Connor received total compensation of US$7,495,810 in 2009 in his role as CEO of the Sherwin-Williams Company?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 03:24, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• Pretty unintriguing hook to be sure. And do I sense a certain COI the nominator may want to clear up? Grsz 03:30, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• I find this highly fascinating. Few people earn this much money. Christopher Connor (talk) 05:53, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• I agree with Grsz that this hook is not interesting. "One of the 200 highest-paid CEOs in the United States" is not interesting in and of itself. The highest-paid could be interesting, as could a juxtaposition between exceptionally high pay and poor performance (as in the case of Carly Fiorina at HP). cmadler (talk) 14:49, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1. Christopher Connor (talk) 08:42, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

... that Christopher Connor, CEO of the Sherwin-Williams Company, donated US$1 million to his old high school when they held a campaign to celebrate its 40th anniversary?

• Can we have confirmation that there's no COI here? SlimVirgin 08:49, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Adenanthos dobagii

• ... that the rare Fitzgerald Woollybush is only known from three populations within the Fitzgerald River National Park?

Created by Hesperian (talk), Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 02:43, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Denver Symphony Orchestra

• ... that the Denver Symphony Orchestra filed for bankruptcy in 1989?

Created by Muserjc (talk). Nominated by Seb az86556 (talk) at 09:32, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• Article qualifies for DYK, but I don't think this is an interesting hook. Can you suggest a better hook? cmadler (talk) 18:50, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

As the creator of the article, I think these are the most interesting simple points in the article:

• ... that Sergei Prokofiev disappointed reviewers and himself when he performed with and conducted the Denver Symphony Orchestra in 1938?

or

• ... that Saul Caston, Music Director of the Denver Symphony Orchestra from 1945 to 1964, had been Associate Conductor of the Philadelphia Orchestra under both Leopold Stokowski and Eugene Ormandy?

Thanks! Muserjc (talk) 22:46, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Actually I think a symphony orchestra going bankrupt is pretty quirky in its own right. Circéus (talk) 00:37, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Mehmed's first Albanian campaign

• ... that a series of diplomatic struggles between the major Mediterranean powers of the 15th century culminated in newly-crowned Mehmed II ordering his first invasion of Albania?

Created by User:Gaius Claudius Nero (talk). Self-nom at 02:21, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 10

James Charles Fahey

• ... that James Charles Fahey started publishing The Ships and Aircraft of the United States Fleet due to his disappointment at editors butchering his manuscripts?

Created by Thewellman (talk). Nominated by MC10 (talk) at 06:42, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

• Maybe instead of "publishing," it should be "self-publishing"? - PM800 (talk) 09:24, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
• Length, date, and sources check out. - PM800 (talk) 09:50, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Socialist Workers Movement (Bolivia)

• ... that the Bolivian ambassador to the United Nations Pablo Solón was the main leader of the Trotskyist Socialist Workers Party in the 1980s?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:49, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

French frigate Psyché (1804)

• ... that on 9 April 1804 Commander Henry Lambert of the 21-gun HMS Wilhelmina held off the 36-gun French privateer Psyche and that on 14 February 1805 now Captain Lambert of the 44-gun frigate HMS San Fiorenzo captured her.

5x expanded by Acad Ronin (talk). Self nom at 02:07, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

HMS Pactolus (1813)

• ... that 200 years ago today (11 August 2014) HMS Pactolus and HMS Ramillies bombarded Stonington, Connecticut during the War of 1812 and then sailed off?

5x expanded by Acad Ronin (talk). Self nom at 02:17, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if we hold DYKs for almost four years, but this item would have the greatest impact then.Acad Ronin (talk) 02:17, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

You could move it to the special holding area below. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 06:50, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Larson Brothers Airport

• ... that the sod-surfaced Larson Brothers Airport (hangar pictured) was described as the "finest airport in the state" of Wisconsin in 1932?

Created by Royalbroil (talk). Self nom at 06:45, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

For 14 November, 24th Sunday after Trinity

O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 60 nominated 4 November

For 16 November

Eleonora Šomková

• ... that Czech poet Karel Hynek Mácha's funeral took place on the day of the intended wedding with his fiancée and mother of his newborn child Eleonora Šomková known as Lori?

Created by Aloysius (talk). Self nom at 05:57, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• I humbly ask to move this suggestion to Special Occasion area for 16 November to celebrate the 200th birth anniversary of Karel Hynek Mácha, Czech National poet - I have added four other articles relevant to this important day in the Czech Republic. Three were created on 29 October, one more on 30 October.Aloysius (talk) 06:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• Multi-nom ALT added to 29 October Cikáni suggestion. Aloysius (talk) 08:17, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• Article is too short. Articles should be at least 1,500 characters for inclusion at Did You Know. Arctic Night 11:45, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• I have added some facts to make it long enough. Thanks for caution! Aloysius (talk) 16:16, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek

• ... that Czech poet Karel Hynek Mácha first appeared as an actor in Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek's play Czech and German in July 1832 in Benešov?

Created by Aloysius (talk). Self nom at 05:48, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• I humbly ask to move this suggestion to Special Occasion area for 16 November to celebrate the 200th birth anniversary of Karel Hynek Mácha, Czech National poet - I have added four other articles relevant to this important day in the Czech Republic.Aloysius (talk) 05:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• Multi-nom ALT added below to Cikáni suggestion. Aloysius (talk) 08:09, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Travel to Italy (Mácha)

• ... that in his 1834 Diary of Travel to Italy Czech national poet Karel Hynek Mácha describes his meeting with Slovenian national poet France Prešeren in Ljubljana?

Created by Aloysius (talk). Self nom at 05:36, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• I humbly ask to move this suggestion to Special Occasion area for 16 November to celebrate the 200th birth anniversary of Karel Hynek Mácha, Czech National poet - I have added four other articles relevant to this important day in the Czech Republic.Aloysius (talk) 05:37, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• Multi-nom ALT added below to Cikáni suggestion. Aloysius (talk) 08:10, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Cikáni

• ... that Karel Hynek Mácha's 1835 novel Cikáni celebrates the free lifestyle of gypsies?

Created by Aloysius (talk). Self nom at 05:20, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• I humbly ask to move this suggestion to Special Occasion area for 16 November to celebrate the 200th birth anniversary of Karel Hynek Mácha, Czech National poet - I have added four other articles relevant to this important day in the Czech Republic. Aloysius (talk) 05:27, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• Let's have a multi-nom for Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek, Travel to Italy (Mácha) and Cikáni? — Toдor Boжinov — 12:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• I have done two others that are under 30 October nominations. Does multi-nom mean they all be in one question? I haven't heard of multi-nom. Thanks. Aloysius (talk) 06:56, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, it's short for a "multiple nomination" - having more than one DYK-eligible article mentioned in a single hook. They're good if you can get them, and the 200-character limit doesn't apply (within reason!). Be nice to have a picture of Mácha to go with the hook? Le Deluge (talk) 22:31, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• something like this (plus the image above)? (please check my English) multi-nom ALT1... that Czech national poet Karel Hynek Mácha (1810 - 1836) wrote two diaries? In 1832 Mácha started to act Czech theatre with a role in Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek's play Czech and German. He met Eleonora Šomková next year when she was asked to join the group of actors by Josef Kajetán Tyl. She became his mistress and fiancée. The Diary of 1835 concerns daily experiences and its cipher parts deal with relationship and sexual experiences with Lori as he called her. He died shortly after their son was born and the funeral took place in Litoměřice on the day of their intended wedding. The Diary of the Travel to Italy describes his hike to Venice, Trieste and Ljubljana where he met Slovenian national poet France Prešeren in 1834. The diaries are good source of psychological background for Mácha's masterpieces, dramtic poem Máj and novel Cikáni in which he celebrates the free lifestyle of gypsies. Aloysius (talk) 08:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• While allowances are made for hooks with multiple nomination being longer than 200 characters (see rule C3), this is much too long. Also hooks are generally a single sentence, although I can't find where it states that in the rules apart from the requirement for the first sentence to end with a question mark. Mikenorton (talk) 13:06, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• Then I would stick to the original versions. They are all about a bit different aspects of Mácha's life. And I don't know who is competent to move them to the Special Occasion section but I hope that they could be published on 16 November when it is 200 years from the poet's birth. Aloysius (talk) 18:37, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• I've had a go at combining them myself, see what you think. Mikenorton (talk) 19:35, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that Karel Hynek Mácha, author of the 1834 travel book Diary of the Travel to Italy and the 1835 novel Cikáni, got his first acting job, in Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek's drama Czech and German, in Benešov, where he later met his fiancée Eleonora Šomková?

• Thanks for effort, really not bad! Let me try to comb it according to accuracy and importance. Aloysius (talk) 06:23, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT2 ... that Czech national poet Karel Hynek Mácha, author of most notable poem Máj and novel Cikáni as well as the Diary of the Travel to Italy and the Diary of 1835 (the cipher parts of which deal with relationship and sexual experiences with his fiancée Lori), got his first acting job in Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek's drama Czech and German? Aloysius (talk) 06:23, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

  Two comments - you don't need to disambiguate titles with (Mácha) on the end unless there's already an article called simply "Travel to Italy" - which there isn't, and it's best to have articles at the simpler title. Also - is "Travel to Italy" really the common name in English? It implies it's a discussion of the Italian tourist industry as "travel" is a general word, a person would make a "journey to Italy" or "trip" or something, but never "a travel". Sorry for not explaining that the hook can be >200 characters but still as short as possible, here's my effort which is 272 - but it might be nice to insert ", born 200 years ago today," :

  • ALT3 ... that Czech national poet Karel Hynek Mácha got his first acting job in Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek's drama Czech and German and his writings include the poem Máj, novel Cikáni, diary of Travel to Italy and the Diary of 1835 which deals with his relationship with his fiancée Lori? Le Deluge (talk) 11:04, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

  • Then, I would suggest dividing into two noms for 16 November, one multi-nom and one single nomination:
  • ALT4/1 ... that the writings of Czech national poet Karel Hynek Mácha, born 200 years ago today, include poem Máj, novel Cikáni, diary of Journey to Italy and the Diary of 1835 which deals with his relationship with his fiancée Lori? Aloysius (talk) 19:15, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
  • ALT4/2 ... that Karel Hynek Mácha got his first acting job in Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek's drama Czech and German? Aloysius (talk) 19:15, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Diary of 1835 (Mácha)

• ... that Czech poet Karel Hynek Mácha wrote parts of his Diary of 1835 in code to conceal details of his erotic relationship with Eleonora Šomková?

Created by Aloysius (talk). Self nom at 06:08, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• I humbly ask to move this suggestion to Special Occasion area for 16 November to celebrate the 200th birth anniversary of Karel Hynek Mácha, Czech National poet - I have added four other articles relevant to this important day in the Czech Republic. Three were created on 29 October, one more on 30 October. Aloysius (talk) 06:09, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• Multi-nom ALT added to 29 October Cikáni suggestion. Aloysius (talk) 08:17, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• This version approved with the offline source accepted, AGF. Arctic Night 11:43, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

For 21 November, 25th Sunday after Trinity

Du Friedefürst, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 116 nominated 9 November

For November 24

Bihar legislative assembly election, 2010 ‎

• ... that the Bihar legislative assembly election, 2010 takes place across 6 phases and over a month?

5x expanded by Lihaas (talk). Self nom at 10:40, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

• special nomination for November 24 First expansion on date set, and further addition when results are out on Nov. 24.Lihaas (talk) 12:29, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• This nomination is a little late, but not unreasonably so, so I don't think it should be rejected on that grounds. However, the article is currently significantly undersourced (in the Background and Schedule sections -- we generally seek a minimum of 1 in-line citation per paragraph), the Parties section is marked as needing expansion, and most of the references are bare URLs. Keep in mind also that if this article appears on In The News (for which it seems a good candidate), it will become ineligible for DYK. cmadler (talk) 14:02, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Also, an in-line citation to the appropriate reference is needed immediately following the statement used for the hook. cmadler (talk) 14:04, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• The nomination seems way too old for me. Its already more than two weeks old, and it might not represent "Misplaced Pages's newest articles". We should move on to the other nominations. ANGCHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 07:12, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I didn't get much of a chance to respond to this before it was taken off.

The article was originally put in the "quarantine" for a special date, (and had no replies before i moved it here) where it was nominated within days of its creation in the first place. I wrote the same thing above but for some reason that doesnt seem to have been read. As for the "party" section that will duly be updated on Nov 24 when the results are announced (hence the "special date" not just regular nomination) at which point the electoral commission lists every party that does take part in the election.

The schedule section is wholly sourced, its there in the table. The background section is not sourced here but it is on the respectively linked page. I can move it here if need be. On section that have other pages in the past we have not called for repetitive cites, so i didnt think it necessary.

Its also not ITN as a sub-national election. But a 6-phase election is DYK-able.

I've now answered these queries with cites, etc. (see the page) Lihaas (talk) 16:40, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

When I removed this, I noted in my edit summary that it had maintenance tags on it. That needs to be resolved ASAP if you wish to resurrect this one. I won't remove it from the queue again but if the issues behind the maintenance tags aren't cleared up in a reasonable amount of time, I expect someone else will. 28bytes (talk) 16:53, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Ive already explained the expand tag for the parties, which will be gone before it goes up (nominated for Nov 24 when results are out). Theres only 1 other tag, i can take it off now as it was pending a bot addition. No hindrance to the page.

Not really requiring "considerable" work, per the first responder some more work (for obviosu reason), its a maybe right now.

everything is done, except for the part pending results in about 2 weeks.Lihaas (talk) 17:00, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

OK, in that case we can keep it open. I'll move it to the Special Occasion holding area. 28bytes (talk) 17:18, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Should i report back when its done, or will the respective review check?Lihaas (talk) 18:52, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

It wouldn't hurt to put an update here when it's done. Feel free to ping my talk page if it's not noticed here, and I'll approve it. Thanks, 28bytes (talk) 02:52, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

For December 10

This nomination has an unusual history, having been nominated originally for a date-specific spot on October 28. The discussion WT:DYK#Hook with Oct 28 request date explains the situation. Pursuant to that discussion, Paralympiakos and I request that the two articles Magomed Sultanakhmedov and Rafał Moks that were moved to article space on 24 October, now be held for a December 10 hook. These two mixed martial arts fighters were due to face each other in a championship bout on October 28; their bout was postponed at the last moment. On December 10, there will be three bouts for inaugural global championship (different weight divisions) and our intention is for a 6-article hook for that date. EdChem (talk) 02:59, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

The goal 6-article hook would be something like:

* ... that M-1 Global's welterweight (Tom Gallicchio vs. Shamil Zavurov) middleweight (Magomed Sultanakhmedov vs. Rafał Moks), and light heavyweight (Tomasz Narkun vs. Vyacheslav Vasilevsky) MMA Champions will be determined at M-1 Challenge XXII today?

Magomed Sultanakhmedov and Rafał Moks Jointly Created by Paralympiakos (talk) and EdChem (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC). Tom Gallicchio, Shamil Zavurov, Tomasz Narkun and Vyacheslav Vasilevsky Jointly Created by Paralympiakos (talk) and EdChem (talk). Self nom at TIME and DATE to follow.

Updating work on these articles will be completed over the next few weeks in user space; the four new articles will be moved into article space in early December. EdChem (talk) 02:59, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Late December 2010

Cincinnati Riot of 1853

• … that the Cincinnati Riot of 1853 involved Germans objecting to the presence of an Italian preaching in French in the United States on Christmas Day?

  This one is entirely Aymatth2's fault, as well. Uncle G (talk) 14:00, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
• ALT:... that the Cincinnati Riot of 1853 involved Germans objecting to the presence of an Italian preaching in French in the United States on Christmas Day? {Let's save this hook for use on X'mas.} --174.89.163.171 (talk) 05:18, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Andrew McKinley

• ... that Andrew McKinley, David Aiken, and Leon Lishner created the parts of the three kings in the world premiere of Menotti's Christmas opera Amahl and the Night Visitors which was broadcast live by NBC to an audience of millions on Christmas Eve 1951?

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self nom at 01:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

• My plan is to make this a tripple nom with Aiken and Lishner. If reviewers could please hold off until those articles are also created, I would appriciate it. Also I would like this to be up at 7:00 PM New York City Time on Christmas Eve if possible, which is the place and time the original production was performed at its premiere.4meter4 (talk) 01:36, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Mark Miodownik

• ... that Mark Miodownik will deliver the first part of the Royal Institution Christmas Lectures tonight?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 23:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

He will give the lectures, spanning a few days, in "late December". I think they usually start a few days before Christmas. 2009 event was 21–25 December. There'll be more info as the event approaches of course. Christopher Connor (talk) 23:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation

• ALT1 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation represents the courage, valour, strength, cleanliness, truth, high moral standards and high level of motivation expected of FBI agents?

• ALT2 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation was first used on January 1, 1941 and represents the values, standards and history of the FBI and its agents?

Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

• Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification: Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
  --K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
• Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:

Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

• - Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
  Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
  --K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
• No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

• Support ALT2 for use on 1 January, 2011. EdChem (talk) 10:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

• Suggest scrapping this troublesome controversial DYK, the user that instigated the issue has also since retired, suggest retiring this idea as well. Off2riorob (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Would you please stop with your blatant pushing of the issue? Putting this off until January removes all controversy related to it. Silverseren 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Your comment is just a simple personal attack, I have bigger fish to relentlessly pursue than this worthless disruptive DYK. Off2riorob (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? Silverseren 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• I support ALT2 for the 1 January date. The anniversary makes this a very good choice for that day. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. Geschichte (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. Arsenikk 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

• per IAR. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. NW (Talk) 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
• Support as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose per Arsenikk. The Utahraptor/_{Contributions} 22:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support per NuclearWarfare and Dravecky—Chris!_c/t 20:05, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support, per Chrishomingtang (talk · contribs). -- Cirt (talk) 06:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support - This was initially nominated in a timely manner, with an image of the seal, but due to political considerations (public dispute between Wikimedia Foundation and the FBI over the use of the image of the seal) it was agreed that the image should not be used on the main page, and that the hook should be held and run at a later date, when the dispute was not so much in the news. The 60th anniversary of the first use of the seal makes a perfect tie-in, and while it is longer than DYK hooks are normally held for special occassions, Dravecky is correct that it would be egregious to reject it now on the basis of timing. cmadler (talk) 19:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support - cmadler really sums up the issue for me. The circumstances of the original nomination and the fact of the 60th anniversary are significant enough that we ought to make an exception to the requirement that DYK items be from recently-created articles. -- Black Falcon 19:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support I agree with NW, but don't think we need to IAR, considering that hooks are regularly kept back for months for the April fools and Halloween main pages. I don't think we should treat this any differently. Smartse (talk) 10:28, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support - The Bushranger _{Return fire} 17:12, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
• Conditional support if, and only if, the squabble with the feds is over. ScottyBerg (talk) 17:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose I'm worried that this is too obviously a matter of giving the FBI the proverbial finger than promoting something encyclopedic. I'm all for criticizing the FBI, but we shouldn't invoke exceptions to basic guidelines just to promote our own POV. It seems far more prudent to pull up your sleeves and make this a quickie FA or get it on "On this day". Peter 10:43, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
• Weak oppose. ALT2 is a better hook than ALT1, but it would be better still on OTD than DYK (it would get more readers that way, as well). Physchim62 (talk) 17:29, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

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