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The Old Grey Hare This ID monster first hopped into Misplaced Pages 17 years, 7 months & 29 days ago. Click here to LOG OUT: Special:Userlogout NOTE: You will then be editing with your IP address exposed to the world. So USE WITH CAUTION. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 07:19, 4 April 2010 (UTC) Next thing you know, someone using the Roadrunner ISP is gonna say something like this: "Meep, meep!". --ACME contributor: → Dave 09:03, 4 April 2010 (UTC) ← Always make sure that that you are visiting Misplaced Pages through the Official Acme© Trac-me® Web portal using a Genuine Acme© Bowser Browser® with the propietary Acme© Hac-me® Operating System, protected by Acme© Attac-me® Super-secure AntiVirus, on an Acme© Hijac-me® Laptop over the Acme© Sidetrac-me® Hyper-Speedy Gonzales® off-road wireless network. —— Shakescene (talk) 21:44, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

This-a-way...

...to the world-famous Kangaroo Court!!! ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 16:54, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

de bait

"Train leaving on Track Five for Anaheim, Azusa, and Cuc..."

"...amonga!"

I've got my fare, ... and a little to spare. —— Shakescene (talk) 07:39, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

LPC

See this edit. But you have to see this in context of the history of the page User talk:LouisPhilippeCharles. PLC has in the past deleted the reasons for a block created and edited a new article on the talk page and then requested an unblock forcing unblocking administrators to waste their time trawling through the history of the talk page for information on the reasons for the block (and previous blocks) and the reasons given by other administrators for turning down previous unblock requests. -- PBS (talk) 20:50, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, if his/her motives are to develop a new article and not lay a smoke screen then that is a simple solution. -- PBS (talk) 07:27, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Question

The user Tony1, who hid his identity in making that statement, has a huge poster on his userpage supporting Wikileaks. Doesnt that violate NPOV and COI? Have fun! Wolfstorm000 (talk) 04:13, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to turn him in to the CIA, the FBI, or the nearest convenient parallel dimension. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 18:55, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Can you help?

I've been thinking about multiple universes on the basis of some statements made in accordance with hindu mythology...And to me, it appears that these postulates must be true....of course, my intention is to provide a link between Philosophy and science...

I hope that you know about myths...about the position of planets influencing the nature and fate of human...

I have tried to provide scientific explanation for this...and my theory is....

Each body exerts a gravitational force on the other...Now, for example, Jupiter and the earth are rotating around the sun.... Jupiter exerts a gravitational force on u..At the same time, sun also exerts a force on u....these forces now disturb your energy field (possibly, the energy fields created by the matter waves u emit)....Thus, your energy gets changed due to the interference of these energies....Thus, your energy changes unknowingly (without your conscience)...Thus, Ur thoughts...which also are a resultant of ur energy variations...(My hypothesis is that..Thoughts arise when our energy levels are changed due to the influence of another body)..will also change...so, correspondingly, ur deeds will change...

Coming to fate or luck...Ur energy will have an influence on others too...Some others energy fields get disturbed...accordingly, that person might begin to like or dislike u..(I believe this is the scientific reason for love, affection or what ever it may be)..

Now, when u go to perform an act, (Every work u do is just a modification of energy field)...your changing energy will also influence the work or ur task's energy field....thus, creating a negative or positive effect...means, suppose ur energy (it might be silly reasoning but dont laugh ok, coz i'm just trying my best) is in some sort of destructive interfernce with ur task's energy; then, that wud create a negative effect type of b thing...thus barricading ur effort to break the energy..or acheive that energy or emit that energy....(If u r going to do any task, it is nothing but breaking into the regions of the energy)....

Please help me in refining my thoughts. Ofcourse, I'm just a beginner. I have just started to read about cosmology, So I dont know much. Kindly answer me and dont mock me because I'm just an amateur. — 194.80.246.1 (talk) 08:35, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

You lost me at the bakery. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 18:54, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Actually, all of the above is entirely reasonable - it is obvious that the gravity field of Jupiter and electromagnetic radiation emitted by the Sun both do affect my task to visit the bakery. It's just that one affects me a significant amount (by warming me up sufficiently that I can feel it), and the other affects me an insigificant amount.

Two suggestions occur to me, though. First, try to use ellipsis ("...") less. If there is something that goes in that "..." space, then each time, try to state what it is, rather than just using the ellipsis to suggest that there's something missing and you want the reader to try to guess what it is.

Second, any theory or discussion becomes much more credible if it is phrased in terms of named scientific phenomena for which there are already ample scientific observations and data. For example, "Jupiter exerts a gravitational force on u" is good - we know this to be true and we have a wealth of data suggesting that Jupiter has a gravitational field. "ur task's energy field" is not so good - there are no scientific data, or even theories, to suggest that a "task" (an abstract concept) has an "energy field".

Alternatively, you could embark on scientific enquiry yourself. Produce a theory as to how and why a task has an energy field, including an explanation of how such an energy field relates to different sorts of forces we already know about (gravity, for example). Then, describe an experiment which would prove this theory correct, including what observational results you would expect if a task does have an energy field, and if it does not. Then, perform the experiment!

--Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:20, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I'll make a note of that. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 02:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm

Maybe I should have asked this less than heard u this question - but here goes. I just watched this movie with Hugh Grant and others playing the parts of young undergraduates at Oxford University in England during the British Edwardian era. I thought the film and story somewhat typical of the portrayed upper class of the time and period and that it was well acted and produced. What puzzles me about this kind of film is how young men (the actors), clearly in their sexual prime, can kiss, cuddle, be affectionate to each other, even get into bed with each other, simulate gay sex, and not become aroused, even if they are not actually gay or curious. By the way, I couldn't care less either way - it's their business, not mine. The biographies of the principals suggest that they are mostly happily married with kids, so how do they control their natural urges doing those erotic scenes? Or do they genuinely not have any natural urges towards other men and can act those scenes totally devoid of any arousal? And I suppose the same goes for women/women scenarios too? Tigerdewdz (talk) 16:18, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

What might make you think Bugs has anything especially useful to say about this? He's quite knowledgeable about baseball, and perhaps about hot dishes, but this matter seems outside his expertise. PhGustaf (talk) 16:39, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Well it could be about baseball and hot dishes (strictly in an erotic sense) and he also seems really intelligant, unless u can answer the question for me? Tigerdewdz (talk) 17:35, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

I'll have to give the matter a little thought. I'll get back after I take a walk around the block. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 18:53, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

And I'll strike up the band. –MuZemike 02:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

There was a film about that: Boyz 'n the Banned. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 03:04, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

RE: Spiders

There might be a new psychiatric disorder here: arachnoapnea. Cresix (talk) 01:49, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

You should propose that at a scientific forum and see if it's got legs: Eight legs to be precise. And speaking of Bacon (true story), Kevin Bacon said someone once asked him if he knew his name was also a food. Cresix (talk) 03:13, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

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HELLO COULD YOU PLEASE HELP ME WITH THE IDENITY OF A BASEBALL LOGO I HAVE A "THUNDER" BASEBALL JACKET AND THE LOGO THEY NOW SHOW IS DEFERENT THAN MINE MINE IS LIKE AN "EAGEL OR VOULTGER ( SOMEKIND OF BIRD WITH OUTREACHED CLAWS AND LIGHTNING BOLTS COMING OUT BOTH SIDES OF IT'S HEAD ( WITH ANOTHER HEAD INBACK OF THE MAIN ONE)??? HOPE YOU CAN HELP ME OUT THANK YOU.....MIKE ALBANO — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterchamor (talk • contribs) 19:40, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Already covered in the misc. ref desk. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 19:43, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Today, on "International Evil Twin Day" (It's new. Honest.)

I give you... Bustin Jieber. HalfShadow 20:34, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Wow. And I thought it was too late in the day to learn something new. I wonder if there's also a Busan Soyle out there somewhere. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 21:11, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Question

What have I done to you that you act like I was a vandal on Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Refstyle changes proposal? I mean, do you think I am stupid, suggesting an "edit war trap" for me? I've been contributing to Misplaced Pages for more than 6 years. I accumulated almost 100,000 edits on the English Misplaced Pages, mostly typofixing with AWB. But also, I'm a long time member of Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Citation cleanup. The whole purpose of that project is fixing incomplete citations. For instance, I did , , , , , , , and . In each of these examples, I edited the particular article for the first time. In each of these articles, I changed the citation style (how can you cleanup citations w/out changing the style, anyway).

For the past 6 years, I considered those kinds of edits very helpful to Misplaced Pages. A lot of people appreciated what I've been doing , . But it seems like I'm no longer allowed to do that. I love Misplaced Pages, and I always loved doing that gnomic work, fixing minor errors without further ado, and without having to request anyone's a priori permission to implement them. So, could you please tell me what I'm supposed to do? Am I supposed to start a discussion on each articles talk page first, where ever I just want to add an ISBN number, implement a citation template, or add columns to the reflist for usability? Is this how improving Misplaced Pages is supposed to be done? —bender235 (talk) 21:53, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Don't take it personally. I have been known to challenge what I consider to be "busy work" edits that have no apparent real value to the reader. I did so just a few days ago, in fact, in regard to someone who was taking spaces out of infoboxes on the theory that it would improve performance. Given that, I invite you to post 2 blocks of text below - one of them your way, one of them the other way, so that I can judge whether it matters or not. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 22:00, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you want me to do. This is not about two versions of texts. This is about users having the right to edit every Misplaced Pages article, w/out asking anyone for permission first. I mean, I always followed WP:BRD. I made that citation cleanup, and waited. Most of the time people liked it, and it stuck. In some case they reverted it, but I'm fine with that, too. In fact, when I was making one of those minor edits to one of User:CBM's articles Feynman point, he reverted it, and I started a discussion on the articles talk page. The dispute was settled per WP:CITEHOW (keeping the old style rather than using the new one). I'm totally fine with that.

But now, even editing the article in the first place is considered a policy violation by CBM. And an astonishing amount of people agree with him (including you). I still don't realize how this has happened. —bender235 (talk) 22:10, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

It's because you're making mass changes without discussion or consensus, basically abusing the BRD principle. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 22:14, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm not really sure where to draw the line between normal and "mass changes". I mean, of course I edit a lot of articles per day, mostly fixing typo, but on some of them I also change the reference list style. Looking into my contributions log, I see that I've made this kind of edit eight times within my last 500 edits (past four days). I don't know if that is a "mass change". Is it? —bender235 (talk) 22:20, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

When consensus is against what you're doing, then stop doing it and find something else to do. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 22:27, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Sure, I understand edits should always follow accepted guidelines. But where and when was the consensus established that reference lists are not allowed to be displayed with columns? I never found such a prohibition on WP:MOS or anywhere else. If a majority of Misplaced Pages users actually decided not to use {{Reflist|colwidth=...}}, then why is this feature available in the first place? —bender235 (talk) 22:34, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Explain to me, in one reasonably-lengthed sentence, how the changes you're advocating improve wikipedia for the readers. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 22:35, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Using "colwidth" allows the browser to automatically choose the number of columns based on the width of the web browser. Which means, someone who's visiting Misplaced Pages on a large monitor sees more columns (likely 3-4) than someone who's visiting on a netbook, tablet or even smaller device. The latter only see 1-2 columns. To implement this feature was part of Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Usability, simply to improve accessibility. I never thought this would put me in that much trouble. —bender235 (talk) 22:42, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Post some before-and-after examples below, please. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 22:46, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Please see Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Usability#Ideal column width for references. —bender235 (talk) 22:48, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

So, what gnomic work can I do from now on w/out risking a block? Obviously ref style changes are a no-no, and so are citation cleanups. How can I do those minor improvement from now on? —bender235 (talk) 23:31, 14 December 2010 (UTC)