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	:*] Well, that's nice, I requested that people stop trying to impose their opinion here and resolve the outstanding issues at the article talk page, and come back to find an "icon war"! Disputes should be resolved by discussion, not by weight of numbers, that applies to to the project as a whole and it's a process which has particular relevance to this page in my opinion. There is still time I think to resolve the outstanding disputes amicably, which would be a far more desirable outcome, so once again, can we please return to the article talk page? ] (]) 07:59, 4 May 2011 (UTC)		:*] Well, that's nice, I requested that people stop trying to impose their opinion here and resolve the outstanding issues at the article talk page, and come back to find an "icon war"! Disputes should be resolved by discussion, not by weight of numbers, that applies to to the project as a whole and it's a process which has particular relevance to this page in my opinion. There is still time I think to resolve the outstanding disputes amicably, which would be a far more desirable outcome, so once again, can we please return to the article talk page? ] (]) 07:59, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
	::I don't really see it that way Gatoclass. What I see is a neutral article which is being unfairly attacked by other editors who are trying to push a particular POV, thereby upsetting the already neutral balance of the article. Just because someone is griping about POV issues doesn't mean that a POV problem exsists. Further, I can't review this nom if I were to participate in the discussion at the article talk page because then my review would be considered biased. Since you are now an involved editor in the POV discussion you should recuse yourself from reviewing this DYK. However, I do see the wisdom in waiting to promote the article until the conflict is resolved.] (]) 09:14, 4 May 2011 (UTC)		::I don't really see it that way Gatoclass. What I see is a neutral article which is being unfairly attacked by other editors who are trying to push a particular POV, thereby upsetting the already neutral balance of the article. Just because someone is griping about POV issues doesn't mean that a POV problem exsists. Further, I can't review this nom if I were to participate in the discussion at the article talk page because then my review would be considered biased. Since you are now an involved editor in the POV discussion you should recuse yourself from reviewing this DYK. However, I do see the wisdom in waiting to promote the article until the conflict is resolved.] (]) 09:14, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

	::: Anyone can take part in a DYK discussion, "involved" or not. Regardless, I have added some more content to the article from new sources to provide some additional balance. Assuming there are no objections to it over the next 24 hours, I think it will probably be safe to promote. ] (]) 10:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)		::: Anyone can take part in a DYK discussion, "involved" or not. Regardless, I have added some more content to the article from new sources to provide some additional balance. Assuming there are no objections to it over the next 24 hours, I think it will probably be safe to promote. ] (]) 10:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
			::::Per above, "Any editor who was '''''not involved''''' in writing/expanding" can review. ] (]) 20:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

	*'''Comment''' - I find it amusing that the editors are opposed are involved the conflict in some form or another. The uninvolved editors all seem to be green-lighting this DYK. ] (]) 20:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)		*'''Comment''' - I find it amusing that the editors are opposed are involved the conflict in some form or another. The uninvolved editors all seem to be green-lighting this DYK. ] (]) 20:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

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Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.

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For a step-by-step guide to filling out the {{NewDYKnom}} template, see Template:NewDYKnomination/guide.

Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

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{{subst:NewDYKnom
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 | hook         = ... that this ] is an  ''']''' ''(pictured)''?
 | author       = User1
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Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the additional rules.

If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, please use the following symbols to point the issues out:

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Nominations

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on April 19

Megalithic Yard, Euan Mackie

... that the Megalithic Yard is a suggested measure, linked by Euan Mackie to the Sumerian šu-du3-a, an Indus measuring rod from Mohenjo-daro and the diagonal of a 2 x 1 Egyptian remen rectangle?

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 21:45, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

And that probably most archaeologists and statisticians who have looked at this say it doesn't exist? If the article said '... that 3 million people have been abducted by aliens' it would be obvious that it was WP:Fringe, but this is a subject that not many know about.This should not be asserted as fact. A few of the sources used were very fringe, a couple also unverifiable apparently because they came from the fringe sources, not the original texts. Dougweller (talk) 00:02, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed William Jones (Welsh radical). Paul Bedson (talk) 21:45, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Hook is 235 characters, well over the 200-character limit. Perhaps some of the analogous examples can be removed. OCNative (talk) 17:07, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Well spotted, I've deleted the long analogous shell. Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 17:14, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

At the moment both the article's lead (because it doesn't " any prominent controversies" and the DYK fail WP:NPOV. This is an alleged measure. Recently we had news stories about an archaeologist who thought we'd found Atlantis. Would we have a DYK presenting this as fact? Dougweller (talk) 04:50, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
- Uh what Doug said and Read the well referenced Reception section of the Article its rather enlightening on the issues here The Resident Anthropologist (talk)•(contribs) 23:01, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
  - I've changed the hook to make it less so controversial, more consistent and more neutral by showing it's Euan Mackie's point of view. If the validity of a maths calculation is something you can have a point of view about? Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 02:14, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
    - The change is basically saying 'look, this authority says it's true' without letting readers know other authorities dispute the existence of the Megalithic Yard. The hook is still an attempt to promote a hypothesis which is basically a fringe one (see Talk:Megalithic Yard. I see a related discussion on using DYK to push a particular pov at WT:DYK.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dougweller (talk • contribs) 05:13, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 21

Lisa Head

... that Lisa Head was the second British servicewoman killed on active service in Afghanistan since 2001?

Reviewed: Hal Stalmaster ()

Created by S Marshall (talk). Self nom at 12:06, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Date, length, and hook are all fine. Qrsdogg (talk) 18:51, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Article at AFD. Materialscientist (talk) 09:30, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Don't know where this one is going the AFD is 7/4 in favour of keeping. BUT the hook is not consistent with the article which says she was flown back to Queen Elizabeth hospital in Birmingham. She died there the next day - So she died of wounds in Birmingham England, not on active service in Afghanistan. Jim Sweeney (talk) 16:52, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

She was mortally injured on active service in Afghanistan and died quickly thereafter, so I don't think it's all that much of a stretch. But alternative suggestions are welcome!—S Marshall T/C 17:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 22

Władysław Raginis

... that Captain Władysław Raginis is considered a modern Leonidas due to his heroic actions in the face of being outnumbered 40:1 by German forces at the Battle of Wizna (bunker ruins pictured), referred to as the Polish Thermopylae, during the invasion of Poland in World War II?

5x expanded by User:Ajh1492 (talk). Self nom at 18:36, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Insufficient expansion: 1768 prose characters to 5830 is only 3.3x. Also, the hook, at 253 characters , is over the limit of 200. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:41, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
As the user appears to be new to DYK and could potentially be confused since the file size is almost five times expanded, I'll point out that the five times expansion must be of prose (see here and here). Use of a tool such as User:Shubinator/DYKcheck.js (the most accurate) or User:Dr pda/prosesize.js is recommended for determining prose size. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:23, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Its a newbie to DYK - I'm willing to say this is in the spirit of what we require and let 3.3 = 5 this time Victuallers (talk) 18:57, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm also ok with WP:IAR approving this one in order to encourage a newbie. However, we still need a usable hook.4meter4 (talk) 16:35, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

alt1... that Captain Władysław Raginis is referred to as a modern Leonidas due to his heroism in facing German forces which outnumbered the Poles 40:1 at the Battle of Wizna (bunker ruins pictured) in World War II?

Articles created/expanded on April 23

Sofi Fahrman

... that Swedish Princess Victoria was rumoured to be sharing an apartment in New York with her close friend Swedish journalist Sofi Fahrman (pictured)?

Created by, --BabbaQ (talk) 21:10, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed E. W. Bastard.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:22, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Hook and prose checks out. Great entertainment hook.--HelloKitta (talk) 23:16, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
- Just one issue. The article (and its source) rumour a relationship between the subject and Princess Madeleine, not Princess Victoria. I assume the hook should read:

... that Swedish Princess Madeleine was rumoured to be sharing an apartment in New York with her close friend Swedish journalist Sofi Fahrman (pictured)?

— AjaxSmack 01:48, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes sounds better. Hope the picture will be included.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:56, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Picture is great, but the article is a stub (thus not sure it is a good lead). The problem is wikipedia is not meant to be a gossip column. Further, there is no evidence this gossip is notable and close to reality. Materialscientist (talk) 05:05, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

First of all its not a stub in my opinion. Second of all a entertainment stub at times doesnt hurt Misplaced Pages. And third the story of the proposed hook has been well covered by Swedish media.--BabbaQ (talk) 12:53, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm with Materialscientist. It's preferable to choose an article closer to a GA in length, depth, quality... to be the lead. And it's better to have a hook based on facts rather than on rumours.

(alt.hook)... that Swedish journalist Sofi Fahrman (pictured) was the subject of a recent story in Swedish tabloids for allegedly sharing an apartment in New York City with a member of the Swedish royal house?

BTW, please take care of the {{orphan}} tag. --PFHLai (talk) 17:47, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

If we go with this hook, we need evidence that this was featured in at least several major newspapers (not a one-source story). Materialscientist (talk) 23:44, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

The image is a candidate for deletion Jim Sweeney (talk) 14:06, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 24

List of bordering countries with greatest differences in GDP (PPP) per person

... in relative terms, the greatest disparity of per capita wealth between two neighbouring countries is between Botswana and Zimbabwe?

Created by User:Kransky. Self nom at 07:38, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Date and length are fine. I think the article needs more citations though per per D2. Also, is there a way that you could make the citation for the hook more clear? The link goes to a database rather than to the article about Botswana. Fascinating article, BTW. Qrsdogg (talk) 18:01, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Added/changed a few links. But I am not sure what you are referring to in the hook (I have rewritten the hook to focus more on the measurement, not the border.Kransky (talk) 08:08, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
(fixed typo in hook) Sorry, I really wasn't very clear there at all. My thinking was that the fact in the hook wasn't explicitly stated in the prose (though it is obvious in the table). Qrsdogg (talk) 13:21, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

This fact is a little debatable. Assuming the data in the list are correct, Zimbabwe and Botswana are the pair with the greatest relative difference in wealth (Botswana's GDP per capita is 33 times that of Zimbabwe), but it is not the greatest absolute difference (which appears to be Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which differ by $121,000). Ucucha 18:25, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

True - but given a choice between making a relative comparison or an absolute comparison, would you not agree that a relative comparison is more useful? Income per capita appears to have a longer tail amongst the wealthiest country (if the mean is around $20,000, DR Congo's $300 is much closer to the middle than Qatar's $121,000). The Zimbabwe-Botswana difference highlights two totally different economies. The Saudi Arabia-Qatar differences separates the very rich from the ridiculously super rich. Kransky (talk) 08:08, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
I agree it's probably the more useful comparison. However, my concern is that a reader of the hook may well think that the absolute difference is meant (at the very least, that's what I thought). A hook shouldn't be ambiguous or misleading in that way. Ucucha 14:37, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Added "In relative terms" for hook. Is this sufficient? Kransky (talk) 05:16, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes, thanks. Ucucha 12:57, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

~~Do you mean to say~~
... that the greatest ratio of per capita wealth between two neighbouring countries is between Botswana and Zimbabwe? How can we evaluate that you diligently considered all bordering countries in the world? Materialscientist (talk) 14:03, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
"Greatest ratio of per capita wealth" sounds ambiguous. Greatest ratio of assets to income? The reference to "differences" makes it clear we are talking about measures of disparity. FYI I tracked down a spreadsheet with all the 309 pairs of countries with a border. I then cross-linked each listed country to its respective figure of GDP(PPP) per capita as listed in the CIA Factbook. I divided the difference between each pair of neighbouring countries, and turned the figure into a proportion. It was then an easy procedure to identify the pairs with the greatest differences. Kransky (talk) 13:34, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Difference is a wrong term: you divided (took ratio) values in the table, not subtracted (difference). How about countries with disputed status? Materialscientist (talk) 13:45, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
I see where you are getting at - strictly speaking difference is a measure of absolute contrast. What term then describes a measure of relative contrast, or can I say "relative difference"? Thanks for changing 'difference' to 'ratio' in the chart BTW. What do you mean by "disputed status"? Kransky (talk) 11:13, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
"Relative difference" might be Ok if you took a difference and divided it by one of the values, but you just divided, thus ratio. "Difference" might be Ok in the article title though because it means to say "disparity, dissimilarity". "Disputed" meant Kosovo-like entities (Abkhazia, etc.). Materialscientist (talk) 03:00, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Just a thought, but I bet there's a huge difference between Morocco and the (disputed) Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic. ~~But you already included Western Saraha, my bad. Qrsdogg (talk) 16:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Nude Nuns with Big Guns~~
~~... that Nude Nuns with Big Guns is a nunsploitation thriller film that is the subject of a copyright lawsuit against torrent users involving 5,865 IP addresses?~~
Reviewed: Sixth Congress of the Communist Party of Cuba ()
~~Created by Smallman12q (talk). Self nom at 01:54, 24 April 2011 (UTC)~~

Date, length, refs all check out, plus amusing topic. Good to go. -- Khazar (talk) 15:19, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

The article is a coatrack for discussion of the lawsuit but contains hardly any text about the movie itself. There's no production info, no cast listing, nor even the most basic facts about the film itself. - Dravecky (talk) 09:42, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
I've added an infobox and cast. I believe the article is sufficient enough that it meets DYK criteria...Smallman12q (talk) 12:12, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
~~Articles created/expanded on April 25~~
~~Russian battleship Borodino~~
~~... that the only survivor of the Russian battleship Borodino had to survive for twelve hours in the water before rescue?~~
Reviewed: St Lawrence's Church, Broughton
~~5x expanded by Buggie111 (talk). Self nom at 17:32, 25 April 2011 (UTC)~~
I'd suggest '... that the only survivor of the Russian battleship Borodino spent twelve hours in the water before being rescued?' to avoid repeating survive/survivor. Benea (talk) 19:46, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Looking at this at first it seems to have been expanded sufficiently, but most of the expansion is a copy-and-paste of the design section from Russian battleship Knyaz Suvorov, and only the 'Service' section is original. Is the use of boilerplate text considered acceptable when assessing expansion? Benea (talk) 19:51, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Further to a brief discussion here and the guideline WP:DYKAR#A5, 'Copied text must go through a five-fold expansion as though pre-existing in the DYK article', so this article is ineligible unless expanded further. Benea (talk) 19:37, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
~~Start-up Nation: The Story of Israel's Economic Miracle~~
... that Start-up Nation: The Story of Israel's Economic Miracle was called both "biased" and "a rich and insightful read" that demonstrates how the rest of the world could learn from Israeli case?
Reviewed: The Sliced-Crosswise Only-On-Tuesday World ()
~~Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 02:37, 25 April 2011 (UTC)~~
I believe this article is a violation of Mbz's WP:ARBPIA topic ban. One cannot adequately discuss Israel's "economic miracle" without reference to the conflict in which it took place. Mbz herself tacitly admits as much in this post to my talk page where she notes she had to leave out negative information because including it would violate her ban.
While I'm not going to report Mbz for a violation at WP:AE given that this article was probably written in good faith, I see no reason to reward her here for such a violation, especially given that the article by her own admission in one-sided due to the omission of negative information that would overtly violate it. Gatoclass (talk) 06:18, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
- Other circumstances notwithstanding, wikipedia isn't about "rewarding" anyone for anything but to make information more available. This nomination is interesting, within the guidelines of the Did You Know section, and submitted in good faith. Let's leave the ARBPIA conflict there and focus on Did You Know? here, this nomination has no outstanding problems that I can see. BelloWello (talk) 08:11, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
That is a totally inappropriate verification when a user in good standing has already challenged this article as one-sided, a fact virtually conceded by the nominator herself. I trust that updaters will ignore it. Gatoclass (talk) 11:09, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
That's nice, apparently that "user in good standing" doesn't even know how to start an article talk page. I actually don't see the article as very one-sided at all. Also, the article as it stands now has no mention that jumps out at me regarding Israel/Palestine. Are you saying because he's banned from writing about the conflict he can't write about anything pertaining to Israel? I take offense to that, Israel as a nation is much more broad than just a little conflict with some rowdy neighbors. BelloWello (talk) 16:06, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
Bello, with respect, you don't seem to have much understanding of how the DYK process works. Articles are generally not promoted here until disputes have been resolved. Also, as a general rule it's discourteous to try and approve an article over the objections of another user who has substantial concerns about content. If you have an issue with my opinion, fine, let's discuss that, but please don't act as if you are entitled to simply ignore the views of others and approve articles regardless of their objections, that is contrary to our conventions and only likely to alienate other reviewers. Gatoclass (talk) 17:50, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
Comment: no ban violation--Mbz1 (talk) 10:42, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
User:2.0 has very little experience as an AE admin, but regardless, I very much doubt he would approve of you nominating the article here at DYK. It's quite clear from both the thread at my user page and at User:2.0's that you have created an article which deliberately omitted a substantial amount of information regarding the I-P conflict so you could skirt your ban, adding this article here with the expectation that I am somehow going to include that information for you, without even inquiring beforehand as to my willingness to do so, is presumptuous in the extreme. I have no intention of being coerced into fixing your articles by adding I-P conflict-related content so you can circumvent your ban. If this article is promoted, I will be taking this matter up at AE, or possibly even at Arbcom as I am growing very tired of the gamesmanship going on at this page. Gatoclass (talk) 11:03, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
Since Mbz wants to proceed with this nomination, I will ask for a ruling on this at AE tomorrow to try and resolve the matter. Gatoclass (talk) 13:20, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
So, any resolution? - Dravecky (talk) 09:45, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Comment Leaving the question about topic ban violation alone, I do not believe that a topic ban of an article's creator is listed as one of DYK criterion. Either it should be added to the list or the article should get promoted. Broccolo (talk) 21:00, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
I've agreed with Mbz not to go ahead with my AE challenge to the promotion of this article on the basis that Mbz has agreed to consult with me on any future nominations which may impinge upon her ARBPIA ban. In regards to this particular article, I have also agreed in line with Mbz's original request to add some missing content for the sake of balance. I will leave a message here in a day or two when hopefully we have reached an agreement on the content. Gatoclass (talk) 15:20, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
The attempt to add to the article one single (quoted) sentence critical of the book and of Israel has attracted multiple people demanding to remove the quote and even to remove the article's link to that negative book review, a link that was put into the article by its creator Mbz1 although with a different quote. In the light of the ongoing dispute, I have tagged the article WP:POV. According to Ed Johnston, the article should also be tagged with the ARBPIA banner. This article is unsuitable for DYK as per "Articles and hooks that tend to promote one side of any ongoing conflict." The FT says that "The authors are so keen to trumpet the country’s successes that some passages read a bit like an “Invest in Israel” brochure." The WaPo, noting that author Senor is "a professional investor in Israel" says the book sounds "like part of a publicity campaign. " Haaretz says the book is "tarnished by a jarring, tub-thumping patriotism." DYK should not be gamed to publicize works of propaganda on Misplaced Pages's front page, nor is it likely that WP:BATTLEGROUND activity at this article is going to result in a neutral, high-quality article.betsythedevine (talk) 03:23, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
There is no single valid reason to decline DYK for this article. POV tag was added by a single user User:Betsythedevine against the consensus of at least 3 other editors excluding myself. It is a bad faith attempt to decline promotion of an absolutely valid article written in a natural language with a neutral hook.--Mbz1 (talk) 03:38, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- A topical article and good DYK nomination. No objections to negative reviews (or negative comments in balanced reviews). However it is obvious from any search that the book is a hit and reviews overwhelmingly positive. The article reflects this, as it should. - BorisG (talk) 04:20, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
' If my policy-based concerns about this article are to be overridden, I would like to see it done by someone who is an experienced editor here at DYK but not a partisan either way in P/I disputes. This article now has 4 lines describing criticism to "balance" 8 paragraphs devoted to praise of the book. Is there really no POV problem with that? betsythedevine (talk) 07:36, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
This book got 4.5 stars out of 108 reviews on Amazons. The same proportion applies to the professional reviews. The article represent this proportion perfectly. Please stop using DYK to push your own POV. Broccolo (talk) 21:11, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
As I said earlier, attempts to pass any article when there are obviously unresolved disputes are inappropriate and should be ignored. While a dispute over content has obviously broken out over this article, there is still time to resolve the issues so rejection may also be premature. Please can everyone get back to trying to resolve those issues on the article's talk page rather than bringing those disputes here. Gatoclass (talk) 10:23, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Note Please note that both users who object the promotion are involved, both users, who support the promotion are not involved.User:Betsythedevine should not be allowed to use DYK nomination as a tool to push her POV. --Mbz1 (talk) 13:10, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
DYK shouldn't be used either to wave one's own preferred flag, as is occurring here, nor to disparage anyone else's, which this very one-sided paean to Israel also does. By "one-sided paean" I mean both the book, and to a lesser extent, the proposed hook with its single word of criticism compared to 18 words of praise for the book and for Israel itself. Re the previous notes saying another user shouldn't be allowed to use DYK to push her POV, this is all I can say to such breathtaking statements. – OhioStandard (talk) 21:34, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Minor structural problems and I would prefer more specificity in the hook, but overall this is a thorough and neutral article on a bestselling, arguably partisan book. The objections, which absolutely reek of gamesmanship, ownership mentality and battleground tactics, basically amount to "I object because I object, and nothing should be on DYK if anyone objects". Jalapenos do exist (talk) 22:12, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Just to reinforce Jalapenos with another neutral DYK reviewer's perspective, I too think this article is a neutral article about a controvercial book. The hook is also neutral. Everything is good to go.4meter4 (talk) 23:47, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Well, that's nice, I requested that people stop trying to impose their opinion here and resolve the outstanding issues at the article talk page, and come back to find an "icon war"! Disputes should be resolved by discussion, not by weight of numbers, that applies to to the project as a whole and it's a process which has particular relevance to this page in my opinion. There is still time I think to resolve the outstanding disputes amicably, which would be a far more desirable outcome, so once again, can we please return to the article talk page? Gatoclass (talk) 07:59, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't really see it that way Gatoclass. What I see is a neutral article which is being unfairly attacked by other editors who are trying to push a particular POV, thereby upsetting the already neutral balance of the article. Just because someone is griping about POV issues doesn't mean that a POV problem exsists. Further, I can't review this nom if I were to participate in the discussion at the article talk page because then my review would be considered biased. Since you are now an involved editor in the POV discussion you should recuse yourself from reviewing this DYK. However, I do see the wisdom in waiting to promote the article until the conflict is resolved.4meter4 (talk) 09:14, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Anyone can take part in a DYK discussion, "involved" or not. Regardless, I have added some more content to the article from new sources to provide some additional balance. Assuming there are no objections to it over the next 24 hours, I think it will probably be safe to promote. Gatoclass (talk) 10:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Per above, "Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding" can review. BelloWello (talk) 20:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Comment - I find it amusing that the editors are opposed are involved the conflict in some form or another. The uninvolved editors all seem to be green-lighting this DYK. BelloWello (talk) 20:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Articles created/expanded on April 26~~
~~White House Press Secretary~~

~~... that the precursors to the White House Press Secretary and White House press corps both formed during the presidency of Grover Cleveland (pictured)?~~
Comment: This expansion occurred seven days ago, but I hope the Swahili rule (Rule D9 of Misplaced Pages:Did you know/Additional rules) will apply, as this is an excellent and massive expansion by a brand new user. This article started at 2,882 characters and is now up to 22,276 characters, a 7.7x expansion. Thomashoare's expansion definitely began (and ended) on April 26 (UTC), as his edits of April 15–16 were only to edit a heading title.
~~5x expanded by Thomashoare (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 02:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed. Cannot speak toward the Swahili rule. Schmidt, 07:34, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Given that this is a new user, and the fact that the article has been both greatly expanded and drastically improved in terms of sourcing, I am willing to apply rule D9 for the date in this case. Expansion, hook, and hook reference are good to go. Great work!4meter4 (talk) 13:32, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Pitkin County Courthouse~~

... that local miners in Aspen, Colorado, insisted that the statue of Lady Justice on the Pitkin County Courthouse (pictured) not be blindfolded because they believed they could render impartial justice among themselves?
ALT1:... that serial killer Ted Bundy escaped from the Pitkin County Courthouse (pictured) in Aspen, Colorado, by jumping out the window of the law library on the second story?

ALT2:... that due to the age of the Pitkin County Courthouse (pictured), in Aspen, Colorado, outside media coverage of Charlie Sheen's trial was limited to 16 seats allocated by lottery?

Reviewed: Diesel Emissions Reduction Act ()
~~Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 16:01, 28 April 2011 (UTC)~~
I see a couple of areas where additional work appears to be required, both related to reliable sourcing. First, it doesn't seem appropriate to use a mystery novel (Baxter, 2007) as a reliable source in the lede even for the statement that someone "claims" that it's the oldest CO courthouse still used for its original purpose (lots of things claimed in fictional stories are not meant as real claims). Second, the article gives a great deal of architectural description of the building that does not seem to be attributable to any reliable source (i.e., refs 1 and 3 seem only to support a little of what is said). This strikes me as perhaps original research by the nominator, which should also be cut (unless architectural original research is somehow allowed). To be squeaky clean, some of the claims that are cited to elsewhere in WP (e.g., about Hunter Thompson) should also perhaps have references resident in the current article, but that strikes me as much less important, and perhaps (?) ignorable for DYK purposes. Otherwise looks good (adequate length, date, hooks supported, image free, etc.). Thanks/congrats to creator/nominator for all his hard work. Health Researcher (talk) 19:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Well, neither of those issues are related to the hook per se, but, if you insist ...
*Well, DYK Rule #4 is that the article must be "Within Policy", and one aspect is "reliable sources". And these are not trivial parts of your article. Health Researcher (talk) 22:53, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

I find that claim plausible enough to include. Colorado had only become a state 20 years earlier; not all of its present counties were established at that time and not all the counties then established had built their own courthouses. When creating the relevant Commons category, I kept an eye out for the age of most of the buildings depicted, and none of them in active use as a courthouse were as old as 1890.

Mystery novels or "plausibility" based on your own original research just don't seem like how WP mandates that its articles to be reliably sourced. I think you should eliminate the "oldest" claim from the article unless you can find a reliable source. Health Researcher (talk) 22:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Again, see WP:NOTOR. I should perhaps put in a note elaborating on the extent to which this might be true, since we have articles on some of the other county courthouses since they've been listed on the Register as well (The Ouray County Courthouse is also listed, and two years older, but contrary to the uncited article text it doesn't appear in the photo to be in active governmental use. None of other three we have articles on are of that same vintage. Here the Hinsdale County courthouse in Lake City is claimed as the oldest courthouse in the state, but without any distinction as to whether it's still operating. But this says it is (on page 12), then doesn't give a date. This book cites the Park County courthouse in Fairplay as the oldest, giving an 1874 construction date ... but notes it's now used as a library. So I still find it plausible not necessarily that this is a fact but that people in Aspen might believe it to be so. Daniel Case (talk) 05:48, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
OK, the county website says 1877. So this is not actually true. I will write the appropriate footnote. Daniel Case (talk) 05:52, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

My description is based on what's visible in the photo, which is a permissible exception to OR. See WP:OI. Daniel Case (talk) 22:18, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, the WP:OI link does not seem to justify the claim that descriptions based on what's visible in the photo are OK, although your statement seems plausible (perhaps it appears elsewhere in WP?). But from my reading of WP:OI, it appears that all your facts must be substantiated by the fotos that you have cited to external sources, rather than to your own original image. Perhaps you could add a few clarifications in the notes to the article, explaining how the features are visible in the external photos? That will help ensure this article is a good example for others (wouldn't we want that for an article linked from the main page?). BTW, I'm not sure where my responsibilities as reviewer precisely end... I'm not sure if I'll be able to offer additional responses. Good luck. Health Researcher (talk) 22:42, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

OI says, specifically, that "Original images created by a Wikipedian are not considered original research, so long as they do not illustrate or introduce unpublished ideas or arguments". Since I'm not making any interpretive statements regarding the architecture, no ideas or arguments, merely describing it using standard architectural terminology, I think I'm OK.
Also, consider that WP:NOTOR says, regarding fictional works, " book, short story, film, or other work of fiction is a primary source for any article or topic regarding that work," I would argue analogously that a publicly visible work of art, fashion or architecture is a source for its own appearance. I also can't seem to find it at the moment but I distinctly recall that textual claims illustrated by an accompanying image need not be cited since the image makes it verifiable. Daniel Case (talk) 05:48, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~California On-Road Heavy-Duty Diesel Vehicles Regulation~~
~~... that the California On-Road Heavy-Duty Diesel Vehicles Regulation is expected to save 9,400 lives and billions of dollars in health care costs?~~
~~Created by Elyane Stefanick (talk) |Sonam Gill (talk). Self nom at 17:15, 27 April 2011 (UTC)~~

~~. Not 5x expansion in .~~
27 April 2011 6787 chars

20 April 2011 1633 chars. --Philcha (talk) 12:09, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Actually, it was in a userspace sandbox until the 26th of April, so it can be counted as a new article. Qrsdogg (talk) 20:18, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Date and length check out. However, the references are not properly formatted.4meter4 (talk) 23:51, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Kunming–Singapore Railway~~
~~... that the Kunming–Singapore Railway will be 3,900 km (2,400 mi) long when completed?~~
~~Created by Eraserhead1 (talk). Self nom at 17:54, 27 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Size, date and references all check out. A monstrous project! Good job of brining together the ideas of previous suggestions within the current project. Can you add the km → miles conversions into the main article as well? Also, any chance finding which body has started the construction (e.g. Chinese state, China Railways, something else)? – "the Chinese started construction" is a little bit vague. Good work though! SFB 21:38, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Comment. The topic is certainly worth a DYK. But perhaps a hook like this may be more appropriate: "... over the last X years, the region's governments have announced no fewer than Y plans for creating a continuous rail line from South China to Singapore?". (What the right X and Y should be, I am not sure, but with a couple days of library and news archive research one probably can bring Y into the double digits.) I am pretty sure that the Chinese will build a railway from Kunming to the Laotian border within the next 5-10 years no matter what; but when the other 4 governments involved will really get their act together to bring a continuous rail line (let alone one on the standard gauge) into existence, is, alas, another matter. -- Vmenkov (talk) 03:07, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
I'm content to change the hook if a better one can be found. I'm inclined to agree with Vmenkov that his is better - I've added the conversions as well. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 07:09, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
~~Jihadi tourism~~
~~... ~~that popular destinations for Jihadi tourism have included the Tourist Landmark of the Resistance and the Al-Quds Mosque Hamburg?~~~~
~~Created by Anna Frodesiak (talk). Nominated by Qrsdogg (talk) at 17:00, 27 April 2011 (UTC)~~

Reviewed Llangadfan and Dyfnant Forest Qrsdogg (talk) 17:00, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

ALT1: ~~... that popular destinations for Jihadi tourism have included the Tourist Landmark of the Resistance and Somali terrorist training sites? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:51, 28 April 2011 (UTC)~~

Per our discussion on Anna's talk page, ALT2:... that destinations for Jihadi tourism have included a war museum and Somali terrorist training sites? Qrsdogg (talk) 04:58, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Tweaked hook again. Qrsdogg (talk) 18:01, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Using DYK "to promote one side of an ongoing dispute" violates DYK policy. Here's still another article that would lead one to believe that Muslims in general, and Israel's opponents in particular, are despicable people who even devote their vacations to indulge their preoccupation with homicide. What percentage of Muslims worldwide participate in this so-called "tourism"? One in 10,000? In 100,000? Based on recent DYK appearances, one could be forgiven for gathering the impression that Misplaced Pages is extremely anti-Arab and extremely anti-Muslim. We've had more than enough appropriation of DYK for Misplaced Pages's Israel-Palestine battleground already, thank you very much. – OhioStandard (talk) 23:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
I disagree that this article is being used to "promote one side of an ongoing dispute" or characterizes "Israel's opponents" as "despicable people". Are there any specific instances of bias in this article that you could point out? Is it mis-representing the sources in some way? Are there other sources you could recommend that would add balance to the article? Qrsdogg (talk) 23:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
This is interesting subject, something I never knew about. It is well sourced. It is sufficiently neutral and tells also about US and British citizens. Ohiostandard, what "sides" are you talking about? Muslims? Are they really a "side" in any ongoing conflict? And what is another "side"? Christians? Hodja Nasreddin (talk) 00:45, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
While the topic is controversial, Anna Frodesiak has done a good job on the article and the hook. I do not see in the article or the hook any implication that all Muslims are terrorists or that many Muslims take part in such tourism. My own objection to controversial topics is really that it is hard to create an NPOV article that is stable. But I think the concern raised by OhioStandard should be dealt with thoughtfully; it seems wrong to slap an OK on top of a NO, especially when it is done with an insulting edit summary. Are there sources giving some indication of the numbers of people involved in Jihadi tourism? Most likely the actual numbers are quite small. betsythedevine (talk) 03:58, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Qrsdogg asked me to comment on this nom. Regarding Ohio's objections, I don't believe we can oppose articles merely based on the fact that they might portray some group or another in a negative light by virtue of the subject matter. That would be akin to censorship. I do have some concerns about this article however, mainly that the article seems to be a WP:SYNTH collection of events based on a WP:NEOLOGISM that doesn't even appear to have an established meaning at this point. Probably the best way to deal with those issues would be to open an AFD. Gatoclass (talk) 07:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Article is now at AFD.4meter4 (talk) 09:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Back to the original comment by Ohiostandrd. What Israel? This article tells nothing about Israel. What POV? There is no any discussion at article talk page. Hodja Nasreddin (talk) 11:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Minneapolis wireless internet network~~
~~... that it's possible to receive a wireless internet signal almost anywhere in Minneapolis, except on the city's numerous lakes?~~
Reviewed: RideShare Delaware
~~Created by Bobamnertiopsis (talk). Self nom at 00:55, 27 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed. Provides adequate information. Good citations. The lead could be more concise. No need for details on the bidding process, construction schedules, etc. in the lead. Or it's not clear to me why those details should be in the lead. Hybernator (talk) 22:21, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

I was just trying to summarize the contents of the article per WP:LEAD, but I do agree that it's a little daunting. I split it into two paragraphs and shortened the references to the bidding process and network setup. Better? BobAmnertiopsis ∴_ChatMe! 01:49, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Self-nominator still needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 02:09, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh, is that a thing we're doing now? Okay, will do. BobAmnertiopsis ∴_ChatMe! 03:24, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Articles created/expanded on April 27~~
~~Nava System~~

~~Nava System binding and boot.~~

~~... that the Nava System ski binding used a plastic arm to control the ski, instead of a stiff ski boot?~~
~~Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 18:17, 28 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 11:43, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Self-nominator still needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 02:11, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: Mitch Henderson
~~Mitch Henderson~~
~~... that new Princeton Tigers men's basketball head coach Mitch Henderson was co-captain of the 1997–98 Princeton Tigers who were the first Princeton basketball team to win 20 consecutive games?~~
Reviewed: Brand Building, Collins Block, Harley Baldwin
~~Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 05:24, 28 April 2011 (UTC)~~
The article looks fine, but I cannot find the claim of the hook refed in the article body. The only mentions of winning streaks that I see are both for 19 games. I'd also like to have this streak in perspective, is a 20 game streak uncommon in BB? Maury Markowitz (talk) 11:20, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

During his junior year the team ended the regular season with a 19-game winning streak (reffed) and lost their first game in the NCAA tournament. The ref noted that 19 tied the school record. The following season, they again ended the season with a 19-game winning streak but then won their first NCAA game. In both cases the 19th win was reffed. Is there any doubt the team won 20 in a row and broke the record in his senior year?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:05, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Actually, note that this one confirms 20 in a row. The question is whether it was a school record.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:17, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Swapped in better ref confirming school record.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:26, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Rereading the NYTImes article. The record was already covered, but with an incorrect fact saying it was a 63-year-old record when it was a 73-year-old one.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:32, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Tom Kitchin, The Kitchin~~
~~... that whilst at his restaurant The Kitchin, chef Tom Kitchin became the youngest ever recipient of a Michelin star?~~
~~Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 22:31, 27 April 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Have reviewed Pyramid of Skulls, Lake Qaraoun and Qaraoun. Tom Kitchin is a new article expanded from a redirect, while The Kitchin is a 5x expansion. Miyagawa (talk) 22:33, 27 April 2011 (UTC)~~
although I'd look for an alt wording, perhaps ~~"... that chef Tom Kitchin became the youngest ever recipient of a Michelin star while working at his restaurant The Kitchin?"~~ The Rambling Man (talk) 16:31, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
5x expansion verified for The Kitchin; date, length of both articles OK. Hook ref OK. How about:

ALT2: ... that within six months of opening The Kitchin restaurant in Edinburgh, chef Tom Kitchin became the youngest-ever recipient of a Michelin star? Yoninah (talk) 21:59, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Happy with the new wording, flows better than my original. Miyagawa (talk) 22:04, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. ALT2 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 23:08, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
~~Barney Gibson~~
~~... that Barney Gibson became the youngest ever English first-class cricketer when he played for Yorkshire aged 15 years and 27 days?~~
~~Reviewed Tom Kitchin/The Kitchin. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:34, 28 April 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Created by Nick mallory (talk). Nominated by The Rambling Man (talk) at 16:25, 28 April 2011 (UTC)~~
~~All DYK criteria met. Nice one! --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:56, 29 April 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Dhammapada (Radhakrishnan translation)~~

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~~... that Radhakrishnan's Dhammapada was recommended reading for victims of the "annihilation-extinction" theory of nirvana?~~
Reviewed (by nominator): Pitkin County Courthouse (DIFF) --Health Researcher (talk) 19:54, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Comment: The 1997 edition has a much more interesting cover, which would be a better image. If we can get that 1997 cover on WP (see HERE - would using this internet image be fair use?) then maybe we could use it with the hook. Otherwise, I don't care if an image is included with the hook. If you like it, include it, otherwise leave it out. -- Health Researcher (talk) 21:55, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Created by Health Researcher (talk). Self nom at 21:55, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Comment#2: This is 3rd DYK nomination by User:Health Researcher

Comment#3: I withdraw the image suggestion, it is non-free. Please consider only the text hook. --Health Researcher (talk) 00:34, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Dates and lengths look good. AGF of sourcing located behind a paywall. --Allen3 17:17, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Articles created/expanded on April 28~~
~~Charles Bemies~~
~~... that Charles Bemies (pictured) organized the first college basketball team in the 1890s and later became a Presbyterian minister and evangelist?~~
~~5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 03:57, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Reviewed: Jonathan and Darlene Edwards in Paris. Cbl62 (talk) 04:28, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Langlois Bridge at Arles~~

~~... that Vincent van Gogh called his 1888 Langlois Bridge at Arles painting (pictured) "something funny ... I will not create every day"?~~
~~5x expanded by CaroleHenson (talk). Created and nominated by History2007 (talk) at 08:55, 30April 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed: 156th Parachute Battalion (United Kingdom) History2007 (talk) 20:43, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Comment: May make a good DYK for July 29, the day of the death of van Gogh, specially if it can be tied to "what happened today" type of item too for that day. History2007 (talk) 20:33, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Length, history and reference verified. If you'd like it to be held for that day, two months from now, copy this down to the special occasion holding area below with a new subsection for the date. It might be a little too long, but if there's consensus we can overlook that. Daniel Case (talk) 16:15, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
You know, if it takes discussion to do it 2 months from now, let us just pop it up before then, given that July 29 is not a national holiday even in Holland. So let us just use it "as is" whevever the time gets allocated. Cheers. History2007 (talk) 19:06, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Armstrong’s Point~~
~~... that the gates of Armstrong’s Point in Winnipeg, Manitoba are the only surviving set that identify a subdivision built by individual property owners rather than a real estate developer?~~
~~Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 03:55, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed: Silent Way

Almost everything checks out, but this hook is entirely copied from the source material. I think this constitutes some form of WP:COPYVIO, and it should be rewritten in both the article and the given hook. --Starstriker7 23:47, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

The hook should be rephrased. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 11:59, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Banksia canei~~

~~... that the seed of the Australian plant Banksia canei require stratification (keeping at 5 °C for 60 days) before germination?~~
~~5x expanded by Casliber (talk), Hesperian (talk). Self nom at 13:47, 29 April 2011 (UTC)~~
NB: reviewed Paracoccus denitrificans Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:54, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

All good. --Elekhh (talk) 02:23, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

~~St Michael and All Angels' Church, Thornton~~
~~... that the tomb of Robert Ingylton in St Michael and All Angels' Church in Thornton, Buckinghamshire, was re-assembled from a grotto?~~
Reviewed: Barney Gibson
~~Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 09:01, 29 April 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Fully checked out; couple of minor corrections done. Good to go. --Bermicourt (talk) 12:48, 29 April 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Spademan binding~~

~~... that Dr. Richard Spademan invented the Spademan binding after seeing 150 fractures in a single long weekend at Squaw Valley?~~
~~Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 20:44, 28 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Ready for the queue.—S Marshall T/C 23:29, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Self-nominator still needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 02:13, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Unadilla class gunboat
~~Alt-text still needed for the image. rʨanaɢ (talk) 19:50, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~DoneMaury Markowitz (talk) 20:21, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Cedric Holland~~
~~... that Captain Cedric Holland was sent with the British terms for the surrender of the French fleet prior to the attack on Mers-el-Kébir?~~
Reviewed: Russian battleship Borodino ()
~~Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 20:10, 28 April 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 22:27, 28 April 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Roberto Marson, 1968 Summer Paralympics medal table~~
~~... that Italian athlete Roberto Marson was proclaimed the outstanding athlete of the Games after winning ten gold medals at the 1968 Paralympics?~~
Comment: reviewed Carabinieri Art Squad (diff) and Schulze method (diff)
~~Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 13:07, 28 April 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Date, length, hook, refs fully checked out; couple of minor corrections done. Good to go. --Bermicourt (talk) 12:48, 29 April 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Carabinieri Art Squad~~
~~... that Italy's Carabinieri maintain a unit dedicated to fighting art and antiquities crimes?~~
Comment: While that phrase isn't sourced in the intro, it's sufficiently sourced in the "Organization" section.
~~Created by Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 02:20, 28 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Date and length are fine, I'll AGF for foreign language ref, but the rules say the hook's fact must be cited straight after its use not at the end of the paragraph as is currently the case. Fix that and it'll be good to go - Basement12 (T.C) 12:59, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

I hope to have fixed this by providing a citation for the first paragraph, Thanks, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 13:54, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Issue fixed so good to go now - Basement12 (T.C) 14:20, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
~~The Bear Smart Initiative~~
~~... that the black bear of western North Carolina is becoming such a problem that there are developing initiatives to address the problem?~~
~~Created by Tdtallent1 (talk). Self nom at 18:40, 28 April 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Needs proper formatting. Nominator notified. PhantomPlugger (talk) 19:04, 28 April 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Villa Giulia (Palermo)~~
~~... that the Villa Giulia is home to the Genius of Palermo, a city symbol and laic patron of Palermo?~~
~~Created by User:CycloneGU (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 28 April 2011 (UTC)~~
This article was first created as a ten word stub, speedily deleted, restored and moved to userspace. I have since helped put together a new page for it in userspace and it moved out on the 28th when I moved it to its permanent home. I have thus tagged it as a new article instead of an expansion.
The article is a bit short but barely makes the 1500 character requirement. I also have concerns over the referencing; all except one are to travel industry sites which are not really reliable. The final one is the site of the City of Palermo. All of those, and especially the travel sites can be expected to not be independant and to puff up their destinations, although to be fair I cannot actually read any of the text (it is in Italian). The article would benefit from some book sources to bolster the refs. SpinningSpark 12:05, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
That is one issue I am having, finding other sites that can give more information to the article. Most of the information I can glean is in fact Italian; some of the text is a rough translation of the Italian Misplaced Pages version (noted on the talk page), in fact. I'm not the best at source-hunting; are there other sources you can help me with that might assist me and also the IP editor with adding content to the article? There's no doubt it's a notable garden in Palermo, there's just not a lot of information on it that I can find for an article. Kinda bugs me. CycloneGU (talk) 12:22, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

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~~Articles created/expanded on April 29~~
~~Lolita (opera)~~

~~... that Rodion Shchedrin's opera Lolita on his own libretto based on Nabokov's novel was performed in German in the presence of the composer and his wife (pictured)?~~
~~Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 11:30, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Lolita is currently in Prep 2. —Bruce1ee 11:44, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

It's no longer a DYK article in Prep 2. —Bruce1ee 12:10, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

reviewed: #Pierre Koffmann, La Tante Claire, Pig's trotters
~~Sarah Burton~~
~~... that Kate Middleton's wedding dress for her wedding to Prince William was designed by Sarah Burton?~~
~~Created by Trident13 (talk). Nominated by January (talk) at 21:27, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Comment I added a link to Wedding dress of Kate Middleton. Feel free to remove it if you don't think it necessary. Ruby2010 comment! 21:52, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

How about this shorter alt that emphasizes the article in question and avoids passive language: ALT1... that Sarah Burton designed Kate Middleton's wedding dress for her wedding to Prince William? OCNative (talk) 01:31, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Spelling of Shakespeare's name~~
~~... that Samuel Taylor Coleridge spelled William Shakespeare's last name as "Shakspere"?~~
~~Created by Paul Barlow (talk). Nominated by Roscelese (talk) at 20:54, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewing: --Philcha (talk) 13:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Hook length OK. --Philcha (talk) 14:16, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

No citation specifically for "most importantly Samuel Taylor Coleridge" in the article. --Philcha (talk) 13:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Many uncited paras. --Philcha (talk) 13:57, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Article length fine: created 11:50, 29 April 2011; at last edit before nom, 20:40, 2 May 2011 w/o lead 13,005 chars and w lead 14,483. --Philcha (talk) 14:12, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Much of the stuff is easy to cite, I just don't like overburdening paragraphs with citations to what is not in dispute (anyone can click on links to see the spellings). As for Coleridge, the issue is slightly complicated by the fact that a lot of his works were published after his death, but his own 1807 book Shakespere uses the spelling. I'll add a cite now. Paul B (talk) 14:33, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
I've added a few notes and made some corrections. The Coleridge issue is very complicated because so much was transcribed and edited by other people into published form. There's no doubt that the fact that his books used the spelling was influential in the 19th century, but it is less clear that he personally had a preference fro it. It may be better to change the hook. It could become "there have been heated arguments over whether the correct Spelling of Shakespeare's name should be "Shakspere". or maybe "that the most common spelling of William Shakespeare's name changed to "Shakespear", "Shakspeare" and then "Shakspere", before becoming Shakepeare again". Paul B (talk) 18:43, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Still no cites for paras "If unhyphenated the name is most commonly spelled "Shakespeare" ...", "The choice of spelling for the Stratford man varied. Because he is known to have signed ..." --Philcha (talk) 09:57, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Even though the first paragraph you mention is already covered by existing citations I have put one in. There are five citations in the second paragraph. You seem to have confused an inset quotation with a paragraph break. Is there some rule that just because there is a paragraph break there must be a new footnote? Paul B (talk) 11:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Native American Languages Act of 1990~~
~~... that the Native American Languages Act of 1990 was the first time Congress gave official status to Native American languages for the purpose of conducting tribal business.~~
Reviewed: Gene Schoor
~~Created by Kuluppis (talk). Nominated by Mike Cline (talk) at 13:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Comment: FYI, this is a student produced article from the Wikimedia US Public Policy Program. --Mike Cline (talk) 13:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

The killer is article length. --Philcha (talk) 12:27, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
hook length OK

hook in article and cited OK

no cites for paras "The Act's provisions came from the International Native American Language conference ...", "United Nations Draft Declaration of the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, 1993", The concern for indigenous language survival has incited movements across the globe ..."

The killer is article length - an existing article must be expanded 5x in 5 days. Nom'd at 13:28, 2 May 2011, last edit before that 01:05, 2 May 2011 w length 11435. Last edited before 5 days earlier (i.e. start of DYK limit) as 02:05, 24 April 2011 10,568. I'm sorry. --Philcha (talk) 12:27, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
* Comment This is a New article - created on April 29 from a move from an editor's sandbox. Prior to Apr 29, this article did not exist in the main space. I don't think the 5X rule applies. --Mike Cline (talk) 12:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
A new article is one created from zero. This article was 10,568 chars at 02:05, 24 April 2011 10,568. When some one copied it into a sandox is irrelevant. --Philcha (talk) 13:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Incorrect Philcha. DYK policy (see rule D8 in Misplaced Pages:Did you know/Additional rules) is to count from the day that the article enters mainspace. Any DYK old timer will tell you this. Indeed the JavaScript tool DYKcheck will actually check for user space moves to help determine the correct date of creation. Editors can edit work in user space for as long as they want without being penalized. Date of creation is counted from the day the article first appeared in mainspace.4meter4 (talk) 13:09, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
D8 says ""Five days old" means five days old in article space. You may write your article on a user subpage and perfect it for months. The five days start when you move it into article space." But the history of this article shows it was created in article space on 7 February 2011 and at 02:05, 24 April 2011 was already 10,568 chars in article space. So for a DYK nom on 13:28, 2 May 2011 it would need 5x of 10,568 chars, i.e. almost 51,300 chars - but at nom it had 11,435 chars. --Philcha (talk) 14:23, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
No, the article was clearly moved from a user subpage to the article space on 12:02, 29 April 2011 (UTC), as can be seen from this diff. The 7 February 2011 date is when it was created in the user subpage. When the page was moved from the user subpage to the article space, the history also moved from the user subpage to the article space. 4meter4 is absolutely correct. OCNative (talk) 15:28, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Date, length, hook fact, and hook are all good. However, more inline citations are needed as mentioned above.4meter4 (talk) 13:17, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Unadilla class gunboat~~

~~... that during the American Civil War, the U.S. Navy's Unadilla-class gunboats (example pictured) played a leading role in the capture of New Orleans?~~
~~Created by Gatoclass (talk). Self nom at 13:03, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Good article. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 13:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Still needs a review. OCNative (talk) 01:36, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I know, I deliberately didn't do the review because I wanted some time to do some cleanup work on the related ship articles first. I'm not sure I will get time to do that now, but I'll complete the review when I've done what I can, thanks for noticing :) Gatoclass (talk) 07:22, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Good to go, tag is usefully refed. Maury Markowitz (talk) 11:26, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Tell Ezou~~
~~... that the owner of the prehistoric Tell Ezou in Syria has expressed an interest to turn it into an olive plantation?~~
~~Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 03:44, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed Frog battery.

Date, length OK. Foreign-language hook ref AGF. Added "prehistoric". Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Women in Vietnam~~

~~... that failed marriages between Taiwanese men and Vietnamese women (pictured) resulted to Vietnamese-born stateless persons?~~
~~Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 22:44, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~
ALT 1: ... that one of the consequences of failed marriages between Taiwanese men and Vietnamese women is Vietnamese-born stateless persons? - AnakngAraw (talk) 23:45, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
This is a nice start-up article. Date, length, hook ref all verified. Tweaked ALT1 and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:05, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Self-nominator still needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 01:39, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

What "other article" should be reviewed by me? I don't understand? Which "other article" are you referrring to?-AnakngAraw (talk) 02:11, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Per #5 of Misplaced Pages:Did you know#Selection criteria, you need to review someone else's DYK nomination since you have more than 5 DYK credits. This also applies to your other self-nominations. OCNative (talk) 02:17, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Teresa de Jesús (film) article. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:30, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Review verified. Since Yoninah has already verified date, length, and ALT1, this is good to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 05:19, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Cath Kidston~~
~~... that Cath Kidston started her shopping chain after surviving breast cancer?~~
~~Created by Pigsonthewing (talk). Self nom at 21:58, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 23:40, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~AD 62 Pompeii earthquake~~
~~... that the Roman philosopher Seneca the younger attributed the deaths of 600 sheep in the AD 62 Pompeii earthquake to the effects of poisonous gases?~~
Comment: Hook ref in Section XXVII, paragraph 4 of the source
Reviewed Maevia inclemens
~~Created by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 11:15, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~

~~all ok, Johnbod (talk) 15:04, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~James Beeching~~
~~... that English shipwright James Beeching invented a self-righting lifeboat in 1851, which became the standard model for the Royal National Lifeboat Institution's new fleet?~~
~~Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 09:43, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~

Reviewed Pulvermacher's chain. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:43, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Date, size, hook, and ref check out. Looks good. --jjron (talk) 05:12, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Florida Council of 100~~
... that after 30+ years as an advisory body, the now Republican-dominated Florida Council of 100 began taking an activist role during terms of Governor Jeb Bush, funding studies and proposing solutions?
ALT1:... that during the terms of Governor Jeb Bush, the Republican-dominated Florida Council of 100 began taking an activist role, funding studies and proposing solutions to critical issues?

Reviewed: TBA
~~Created by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 07:43, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Good to go for ALT1. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 11:56, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Ristiḱ Palace~~
~~... that the government of Skopje passed a law to preserve the Ristiḱ Palace (pictured) as a "Cultural Heritage" when it was threatened of destruction for illegal infringement?~~
~~Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 03:06, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Link to vecer.com.mk source does not seem to work either in Internet Explorer or Opera browsers. —Ynhockey 20:25, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Link works fine for me. It's just written in Cyrillic. OCNative (talk) 07:11, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

One of the self-nominators still need to do a review of another article. OCNative (talk) 01:43, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the lapse. It escaped my attention. I have now reviewed Jack Moline.--Nvvchar. 08:01, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Samuel Paull Andrews~~

~~... that Samuel Paull Andrews (pictured) was the first working class man to be elected to the New Zealand Parliament?~~
Reviewed: 2012 United States federal budget (diff)

Comment: The hook fact is from his obituary. He has a bio in the Dictionary of New Zealand Biography, and there it mentions that he was the first worker elected to the Canterbury Provincial Council. The bio does not mention, however, that he was the first worker elected as an MP. I'm surprised about it, but DNZB may well be incomplete with its information.
~~5x expanded by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 23:08, 29 April 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Ok for hook, length, date and source. Jim Sweeney (talk) 12:23, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Matador Ranch~~

~~... that at its peak in the early 20th century, the Matador Ranch (pictured) had 90,000 head of cattle on nearly 900,000 acres in parts of four West Texas counties?~~
~~Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:43, 29 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed: Brooklyn Ice Cream Factory
Length, date verified. Hook's offline ref accepted AGF. --Rosiestep (talk) 05:30, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
~~Land Yeo~~

~~... that the small Land Yeo river in Somerset, England has powered at least ten watermills in the last 1,000 years?~~
Reviewed: Scutelleridae ()
~~Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 17:50, 29 April 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Ok for hook, length, date and source. But why "at least ten", both the article and the source list 11? SpinningSpark 20:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)~~
There are some others in this ref and some speculation about the site of some mills, or whether there were one or two (or more) mills in some villages hundreds of years ago. Therefore we can be sure there were more than ten, but can't be sure of any more exact figure.— Rod 07:33, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
~~Brooklyn Ice Cream Factory~~

~~... that the Brooklyn Ice Cream Factory (pictured) has been cited as having the best ice cream in New York City?~~
~~Created by Epeefleche (talk). Self nom at --Epeefleche (talk) 17:44, 29 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed: Richard Phipson
~~Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:52, 29 April 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Richard Phipson~~

~~... that English architect Richard Phipson (1827–1884) is responsible for the restoration of almost 100 East Anglia churches, and built a church tower (pictured) nicknamed "Thunderbird One"?~~
~~Created/expanded by User:Drmies (talk), User:Malleus Fatuorum (talk), User:Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 17:36, 29 April 2011 (UTC)~~
OK, I still can't work this syntax. Can some smarter person please add User:Malleus Fatuorum and User:Johnbod? Thanks! I reviewed St John the Evangelist's Church, Chichester, just below. Drmies (talk) 17:41, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

The hook, length, etc. are all good.--Epeefleche (talk) 17:48, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

I've added the extra credits and "DYKmake" credit templates. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 18:33, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
ALT 1; I didn't see this & did my own version of the inevitable hook above: "... that Richard Phipson's Victorian church spire at Great Finborough in Suffolk (illustrated) has been nicknamed "Thunderbird One" after the Supermarionation space rescue vehicle?" Same difference! Johnbod (talk) 15:22, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
~~St John the Evangelist's Church, Chichester~~

~~... that the former St John the Evangelist's Church in Chichester was designed according to such extreme Low church principles that the altar (pictured) resembles "a kind of kitchen table"?~~
ALT1:... that the roof of St John the Evangelist's Church in Chichester has a miniature version of the Choragic Monument of Lysicrates, described as "excellent" and "preposterous"?

Reviewed: Alexander Rankine (diff)

Comment: Picture possibilities are this for the main hook (needs cropping?...) and this for the ALT.
~~Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 16:53, 29 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Fantastic. Look up at Richard Phipson: I feel embarrassed for nominating what is in comparison a little stub. I like the kitchen table hook best. I hope you don't mind: I changed preterite to present ("resembles"). I don't know how to crop images on Commons, but I did add it to the DYK entry. Drmies (talk) 17:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I've cropped the pic and added it. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 18:42, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
~~Baron Carrickfergus~~

~~... that the title Baron Carrickfergus was given to Prince William (pictured) as a gift from Queen Elizabeth II for his wedding?~~
~~Created by The C of E (talk). Self nom at 12:01, 29 April 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Ready to go. Harrison49 (talk) 12:07, 29 April 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Pulvermacher's chain~~
~~... that Pulvermacher's chain battery was used in experiments by dentists in an attempt to anaesthetise patients with electric shocks?~~
~~Created by Spinningspark (talk). Self nom at 11:47, 29 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed: Villa Giulia (Palermo) SpinningSpark 12:28, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Good for length, style and refs confirm hook. A few more footnotes would help on some of the longer passages but a very good article. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:30, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Everything in this article is 100% referenced already. SpinningSpark 13:09, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Teufelsturm~~

~~... that the Teufelsturm, a prominent rock tower and climbing rock about 40 metres (130 ft) high in Saxon Switzerland, is referred to as the "Symbol of Saxon Climbing"?~~
Reviewed: St Michael and All Angels' Church, Thornton
~~Created by Bermicourt (talk). Self nom at 06:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)~~

Good to go. ~~Please give link to the article you reviewed.~~ Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 07:45, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Done - see above. --Bermicourt (talk) 13:04, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
~~Maevia inclemens~~

~~... that males of jumping spider Maevia inclemens were once considered different species, but the females knew better?~~
ALT1:... that males of jumping spider Maevia inclemens have two distinct forms and courting behaviors, but are equally successful with females?
~~5x expanded by Philcha (talk). Self nom at 20:06, 29 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Date, length, image and supporting refs for both hooks OK - two odd facts and a great picture, but no QPQ review yet performed. Mikenorton (talk) 12:38, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

If QPQ means quid pro quo, DYK should show a link to the policy. So far I've reviewed Ashot Nadanian,, California On-Road Heavy-Duty Diesel Vehicles Regulation, Russell and Sigurd Varian, and Spelling of Shakespeare's name (last waiting response from nom) - see User:Philcha#DYKs_I.27ve_reviewed, can you can verify at my contribs. --Philcha (talk) 16:28, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

After doing my own reconciliation of my noms and reviews, QPQ review for this is Spelling of Shakespeare's name --Philcha (talk) 10:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

~~Articles created/expanded on April 30~~
~~Maria di Gerlando~~
~~... that opera singer Maria di Gerlando created the role of Carmela in the 1954 world premiere of Gian Carlo Menotti's The Saint of Bleecker Street?~~
~~Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self nom at 07:07, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
I reviewed Karl Girardet ().4meter4 (talk) 07:22, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Nice job. --Philcha (talk) 10:49, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
hook length fine

hook in article and cited OK

cites in all paras OK

Article created 13:49, 30 April 2011, last edit before nom was 06:57, 4 May 2011 at over 2100 chars plain text. --Philcha (talk) 10:49, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~RideShare Delaware~~

~~... that RideShare Delaware (logo pictured) forms carpools from a database that grew to include 15,000 commuters in 2009?~~
Reviewed: Women in Armenia
~~Created by Racepacket (talk). Self nom at 01:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Works for me. Date, length, refs, et al. check out. Hook verified with two sources. BobAmnertiopsis ∴_ChatMe! 04:29, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Wedding dress of Jacqueline Bouvier, Pink Chanel suit of Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy~~

~~Pink Chanel suit of Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis~~
... that Jackie Kennedy disliked her own wedding dress, but her pink Chanel suit (pictured) was a particular favorite of husband John F. Kennedy and she refused to take it off even when bloodied after his assassination?
~~Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Ericoides (talk) Gyrobo (talk). Self nom at 16:13, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Date, length OK. Hook ref verified for first article; AGF for second. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:37, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

One of the self-nominators needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 01:50, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed The Pride of the Family.--Nvvchar. 08:15, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Review checks out. Since Yoninah says the date, length, and hook check out, this is ready for DYK. OCNative (talk) 15:35, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Wedding dress of Grace Kelly~~
~~... that the wedding dress of Grace Kelly has been cited as one of the most famous since the mid 20th century?~~
~~Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Jenks24 (talk). Self nom at 10:08, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~

Reviewed Frontera Corozal, Chiapas
Good to go Dr. B. Date, hook, length and general quality all of the highest quality. Great page and beautiful dress (nicer than Catherine Middleton's imho. Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 18:16, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

~~This could be said more concisely:~~

ALT1: ... that the Wedding dress of Grace Kelly has been cited as one of the most famous of the past 50 years? Yoninah (talk) 20:41, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

On second thought, I think you could say something more interesting than that the dress is "famous". How about:

ALT2: ~~... that the elegant, lace and pearl wedding dress of Grace Kelly was complemented by a lace and pearl-encrusted prayer book which she carried down the aisle?~~

ALT3: ~~that the elegant, lace and pearl wedding dress of Grace Kelly was designed by a seamstress in the wardrobe department of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM)?~~ Yoninah (talk) 21:41, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

ALT4: that the wedding dress of Grace Kelly (characterized as "one of the most-beloved of all time") was designed by Helen Rose, a leading costume designer of the era for Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM)?

ALT3 could possibly be taken somewhat wrongly. Miss Rose was not just the person who sewed-up Grace Kelly's wedding dress. She was also the designer of Elizabeth Taylor's wedding dresses in the movies ("Father of the Bride") and in real life (for her wedding to Nicky Hilton) as well as designer of Miss Taylor's outfits for "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof". Rose was a top designer of the 1950s-mid '70s and was never known as just a 'seamstress', not even during her tenure at MGM. Shearonink (talk) 22:25, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
I prefer ALT3. Thanks for the various suggestions.--Nvvchar. 03:38, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
~~I like ALT4, as I want the hook to mention one of the most beloved or popular.♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:52, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~I think ALT4 meets everyone's requirements. Hook ref verified. ALT4 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 10:17, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Gianna Galli~~
~~... that after soprano Gianna Galli's opera career ended at the age of 40 due to problems with her vocal cords, she had a second successful career as a talent manager of singers in Italy?~~
~~Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self nom at 07:40, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
I reviewed Dragan Velić (see here).4meter4 (talk) 07:53, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Date, length, hook check out. Good to go. Jrcla2 (talk) 20:38, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

According to the obituary, it wasn't a failed surgery, but rather a problem that surgery at the time simply wasn't advanced enough to correct. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:44, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

To clarify, I read "her opera career ended due to failed surgery" as "the surgery ruined her" (like Julie Andrews) rather than "there was a problem which would have ended her career, and surgery didn't fix it." Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:50, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for catching that, I am only moderately proficient at translating Italian and misread it. I fixed the article and hook accordingly.4meter4 (talk) 05:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Looks good! I've tweaked the hook a bit. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 06:31, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~IceMole~~
... that IceMole, an autonomous ice research probe, developed for exploring polar regions, glaciers and extra-terrestrial regions, is a student project in the Fachhochschule of Aachen University, Germany?
Comment: Fourth DYK for User:AshLin, three in line from before.
~~Created by AshLin (talk). Self nom at 04:05, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Reviewed Latin Grammy Award for Best Pop Vocal Album. AshLin (talk) 04:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Jonathan and Darlene Edwards in Paris~~
~~... that the 1960 Grammy Award winning comedy album Jonathan and Darlene Edwards in Paris garnered U.S. singer Jo Stafford her only major award for her work?~~
~~Created by TheRetroGuy (talk) and We hope (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 22:21, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Length, date and hook reference (ref7&11) are all in order. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 01:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed: Rocky Mountain Bank v. Google Inc. We hope (talk) 01:42, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Length and date check out. However, the sources don't say that the 1961 Grammy was "the only major award" she ever received. The source simply supports a claim that it is the only Grammy she ever received. To pass, I think the hook would need to be modified accordingly. After all, she has been awarded three stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. And according to this source, she won the Downbeat magazine award for Top Singer of the Year in 1945. And according to this source, her 1953 hit "You Belong To me" was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame in 1998. Cbl62 (talk) 04:08, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
~~... that the 1960 Grammy Award winning comedy album Jonathan and Darlene Edwards in Paris garnered U.S. singer Jo Stafford her only Grammy Award for her work?~~
~~Changed to "her only Grammy Award" An alternative could be:~~
~~... that the 1960 Grammy Award winning comedy album Jonathan and Darlene Edwards in Paris garnered U.S. singer Jo Stafford a Grammy Award for Best Comedy Album?~~
Just a couple of more ideas. TheRetroGuy (talk) 17:00, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Interestingly both sources in the query seem to be from self-published books so may not be accurate. TheRetroGuy (talk) 17:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

See this discussion. Stafford actually won the Downbeat award as a member of the Pied Pipers, while the song was inducted into the Hall of Fame rather than actually winning a Grammy as such. TheRetroGuy (talk) 16:03, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Wedding dress of Princess Alexandra of Denmark~~
~~... that the wedding dress of Princess Alexandra of Denmark (pictured) was the first to be filmed of any royal family member?~~
~~Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 15:19, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Added an img.--Nvvchar. 15:36, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Please review another hook. Yoninah (talk) 20:02, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
~~I entrusted that to Nvv,♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:05, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed Jonathan and Darlene Edwards in Paris.--Nvvchar. 01:33, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 09:13, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Wedding dress of Queen Victoria~~
~~... that Queen Victoria has been credited with starting the western tradition of white bridal gowns by wearing one at her 1840 wedding (pictured)?~~
~~Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 11:03, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Image of white wedding dress worn by Queen Victoria added.--Nvvchar. 12:08, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Lucky Partners.--Nvvchar. 15:50, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Date, length, hook ref all verified. Moved "(pictured)" to end. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:04, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
~~St Mary's Church, Hartwell~~

~~... that the octagonal Church of St Mary (pictured) in Hartwell, Buckinghamshire, has no roof?~~
Reviewed: Gatcombe, Somerset
~~Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:02, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Date and hook are fine, but the prose length is under the minimum 1500 characters (1370 according to DYK Check). January (talk) 11:38, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Whoops, sorry. Small expansion made which I think now takes it above 1500 characters. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 12:13, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Verified, now ready. January (talk) 12:56, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Plaza Resort Bonaire~~
~~... that Plaza Resort Bonaire (pictured) is the largest diving resort in the southern Caribbean island of Bonaire?~~
~~Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 10:32, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~

Reviewed Palenque, Chiapas.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:35, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
^ Added an img,--Nvvchar. 12:02, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:08, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Gatcombe, Somerset~~
~~... that the Roman settlement at Gatcombe, in the modern English county of Somerset, may be the site of Iscalis described by Ptolemy?~~
Reviewed: Motley County Historical Museum ()
~~Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 08:18, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~All DYK criteria met. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 10:54, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Karl Girardet~~
~~... that one of King Louis Philippe I's confidants and court painters was the Swiss artist Karl Girardet?~~
~~Created by Sandstein (talk). Self nom at 08:09, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Reviewed T:TDYK#DDR4 SDRAM. Sandstein 08:14, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
This article relies too heavily on a single source. Outside of the lead, the entire body of the article is cited to a single reference. It's a foriegn language reference being cited, and I'm a little worried now that close paraphrasing may be an issue. I'd like some other opinions on this from seasoned DYK reviewers. Best.4meter4 (talk) 07:17, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Rabboni (steam tug)~~
~~... that the Rabboni was the first regular tugboat to work the bar at the mouth of the Columbia River?~~
~~Created by Mtsmallwood (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 06:58, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed Wildlife of Burkina Faso and Shea nut and butter production in Burkina Faso
~~Good to go. Length and hook verified. (Page 138 of the reference.) Horologium (talk) 11:12, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Millingtonia~~

~~... that Millingtonia Avenue in Lucknow is named after Millingtonia hortensis, (pictured) which is the sole species of genus Millingtonia?~~
Reviewed: Ivy Benson
~~5x expanded by Regstuff (talk). Self nom at 04:08, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Please check your etymology; it contains several errors ("hortens" is not Latin for "garden", for one, and the name of a family derives from its type genus, not vice versa). Remember to italicize scientific names. Ucucha 04:40, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Have italicized scientific names. The derivation of the name is as per the reference cited. Regstuff (talk) 08:03, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

~~Palenque, Chiapas~~
~~... that deforestation in the surrounding rainforest have led to howler monkeys being seen on the streets of modern Palenque, Chiapas, Mexico?~~
~~5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:45, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
REVIEWED Widest path problem Thelmadatter (talk) 01:54, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Three guesses in which Mexican state I spent my vacation last week!Thelmadatter (talk) 01:56, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Guerrero? Good to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:34, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Rocky Mountain Bank v. Google Inc.~~
~~... that in Rocky Mountain Bank v. Google Inc., if a Gmail user had viewed a particular email, Google was ordered to disclose to a bank the user's real name?~~
Reviewed: At World's Edge ()
~~Created by Cunard (talk). Self nom at 00:09, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~

~~All looks ready to go. We hope (talk) 01:42, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Greg Legg~~
~~... that since being drafted by the Philadelphia Phillies in 1982, Greg Legg has worked continually for the franchise as a minor leaguer, a major leaguer, a manager, and a coach?~~
~~Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 23:23, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~

Reviewed #GJ 3634 b. — KV5 • Talk • 23:23, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Date, length, reference checked, good to go. — MT (talk) 11:42, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
~~GJ 3634 b~~
~~... that GJ 3634 b, a recently discovered Super-Earth, is estimated to be over eight times more massive than Earth?~~
~~Created by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 23:13, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed: Armstrong's Point --Starstriker7 23:50, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

The hook length, size, expansion/new all confirmed. However: hook should probably be edited a bit to more closely reflect the article. Hook says "nearly eight times more"; article says "estimated to be 8.4 times". Hook should reflect "estimated" and should say "over eight times more massive" instead of nearly, which implies that it's less than eight. — KV5 • Talk • 23:20, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

How does it look now? --Starstriker7 23:50, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
I made a minor change and I think it's good to go now. — KV5 • Talk • 01:45, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Could I propose an alternate? I just wrote the star article as a counterpart.

ALT1: ... that GJ 3634 b, a recently discovered Super-Earth in orbit around a red dwarf star, is estimated to be over eight times more massive than Earth?

--Starstriker7 15:23, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Bang on target. — KV5 • Talk • 16:13, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Friedrich Wilhelm Mengelberg~~
~~... that Friedrich Wilhelm Mengelberg was a nineteenth century German - Dutch sculptor who built church interiors in the Gothic Revival style?~~
Reviewed Ruža Tomašić (diff) --Doug Coldwell 22:26, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
~~Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 21:58, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Size and date ok. I will AGF since source for the hook is not available online.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:38, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Ruža Tomašić~~
~~... that former Croatian Member of Parliament Ruža Tomašić appeared in television series The X-Files and Millennium as a stuntwoman?~~
Reviewed: Manuel Martínez Gutiérrez ()
~~Created by GregorB (talk). Self nom at 21:51, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Article length, citation in Croatian, date checked. Good to go.--Doug Coldwell 22:12, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Motley County Historical Museum~~

~~... that the Motley County Historical Museum (pictured) in Matador, Texas, was formerly a hospital equipped with an iron lung, once used to treat polio?~~
~~Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 19:37, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Reviewed: Prince Amukamara~~
~~New article, hook checks out. Offline ref accepted on good faith.— Rod 08:16, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Prince Amukamara~~
~~... that New York Giants cornerback Prince Amukamara has five sisters named Passionate, Peace, Precious, Princess, and Promise?~~
ALT1:... that New York Giants cornerback Prince Amukamara is the Prince of a small Nigerian village?

Reviewed: Milton Olander
~~2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 19:36, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~

The college major field, pol. sc. or sociology, is unclear. Aslo, I didn't see the name of the Nigerian village of which he is an honorary prince. Has he visited that village? Billy Hathorn (talk) 19:44, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Political science was his major and sociology was where he got his degree in. I didn't find the name of it, but he did visit it.--Giants27(T|C) 20:05, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

It's confusing to say that he got a degree in a field other than his major. Do you have the name of the village? Billy Hathorn (talk) 18:48, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
I just found it and included it in the article.--Giants27(T|C) 23:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
The part about his college said that he completed a degree in sociology in seven semesters. It does not seem to mention any study of political science. I find it unclear in the article about his being prince of the Nigerian village. I don't think I would use the hook about the names of his sisters. Billy Hathorn (talk) 14:51, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
In the personal section (towards the bottom of the page), it says that he is a political science major.--Giants27(T|C) 20:10, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Also, I just improved the reference to the names of his sisters, if that changes your feelings about that one at all. I clarified the article, and also added how he is the next in line to be the chief.--Giants27(T|C) 20:19, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Wedding dress of Princess Elizabeth and Coronation gown of Elizabeth II~~

~~... that Norman Hartnell designed both the wedding dress and the coronation gown (pictured) of Elizabeth II?~~
~~Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 19:06, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Date, length, hook ref all verified. Excellent job! Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:59, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

One of the self-nominators still needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 01:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed KOI-428b.--Nvvchar. 07:40, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Review checks out. Since the date, length, and hook were all verified by Yoninah, this is ready to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 15:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~At World's Edge~~
~~... that Philippe Saisse's Grammy nominated album At World's Edge was dedicated to his father Maurice?~~
Reviewed: William Stones Ltd
~~Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 18:45, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Length and date verified. What makes this reference, which is used to verify the hook, a reliable source? Cunard (talk) 00:06, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Utilizing a press release for a basic fact, I believe is acceptable, in this case who the album was dedicated to. There are bold claims in the release that wouldn't be acceptable such as "represents one of Saisse’s most ambitious and adventurous solo projects to date", "keyboard wiz", and "distinguished career over the past 30 years" but basic facts like the fact that the album is dedicated to his father or that the album is his ninth solo release should be acceptable. I found this conversation Misplaced Pages talk:Identifying reliable sources/Archive 15#Press Releases - RS? that supports my opinion. J04n(talk page) 12:08, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

I just checked the liner notes and the dedication is there, I attributed the fact to the liner notes. J04n(talk page) 12:17, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Verified. While press releases can be used to verify basic facts, such basic facts are likely also covered by secondary reliable sources. Cunard (talk) 20:45, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Frog battery~~

~~... that a frog battery can decompose potassium iodide?~~
~~Created by Spinningspark (talk). Self-nom at 17:17, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Date, size and hook check out fine. Free license on the images due to age. One of the more grizzly articles I've reviewed, but should make a good DYK? Perhaps a picture would help. Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 02:48, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

There are images in the article such as the one pasted here, but I did not consider them good enough quality for the front page. But go ahead and use it if you like it. There is not enough time to self-create a work, even assuming I have the necessary skill. SpinningSpark 07:43, 1 May 2011 (UTC) and 13:15, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: Land Yeo SpinningSpark 07:31, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Catterick, North Yorkshire~~
... that during a period of less than 25 years, the village of Catterick educated the inventor of the Mackintosh, a Second Sea Lord (later made Baronet), a governor of Jersey, a founder of the bank Brown, Shipley & Co. and one of the founders of South Australia?
~~5x expanded by Farrtj (talk). Self nom at 15:30, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Insufficient expansion: from 1701 to 2612 characters is only about 1.5x. Also, if further expansion is completed, the hook is 258 characters, which is over the limit of 200. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 16:47, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
~~Manuel Martínez Gutiérrez~~

~~... that shot putter Manuel Martínez Gutiérrez (pictured) has the record for most national athletics selections for Spain, but is now a film actor?~~
~~5x expanded by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 14:20, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Date, size and hook check out fine. Free license on the image, also fine for the main page. GregorB (talk) 21:43, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Self-nominator still needs to review another DYK nomination. OCNative (talk) 01:53, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, forgot to mention that I reviewed Haus Vaterland. Thanks! SFB 16:53, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~156th Parachute Battalion~~
~~... that after the Battle of Arnhem the 156th Parachute Battalion had been reduced to only 68 men?~~

~~Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 12:10, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Reviewed Samuel Paull Andrews 29 Aprils list~~

~~Good to go. History2007 (talk) 20:42, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~
~~11th Parachute Battalion~~
~~... that during the Battle of Kos a British Parachute Company captured the airfield, despite there being 4,000 defenders?~~

~~Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 10:59, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed Wedding dress of Lady Diana Spencer below.

length date and ref okay. - filelake shoe 15:21, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
~~Henry Norlande Ruttan~~
~~... that Henry Norlande Ruttan, an Empire Loyalist, was the project engineer for a Winnipeg pumping station considered in 1906 to be the most modern such institution in the world?~~
~~Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 05:27, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed: Matador Ranch

Length, date, hook, everything is OK. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 09:11, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
~~Latin Grammy Award for Best Pop Vocal Album~~
~~... that the Latin Grammy Award for Best Pop Vocal Album was presented in 2000 to an album named "unremarkable"?~~
~~5x expanded by Jaespinoza (talk) 02:27, 30 April 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 02:26, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed: United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 2011. Jaespinoza (talk) 01:59, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Under review. Expansion is 5x within last three days - okay. Referencing okay. The fact in the DYK hook appears to be incorrectly portrayed - the name of the album is "Amarte Es Un Placer" which translates to "Loving pleasure" (using Google Translate), the word "unremarkable" was an epithet given by a critic vide the reference for that fact in the article (reference 7). Please reword the hook for reconsideration. AshLin (talk) 04:25, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

My point is to show that the album recorded by Miguel was named "unremarkable". Maybe I need to rewrite it. Jaespinoza (talk) 17:10, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

How about...

ALT1: ... that the Latin Grammy Award for Best Pop Vocal Album was presented in 2000 to an album deemed "unremarkable" by a critic? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:38, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

I think the rewriting is very good, thank you. Jaespinoza (talk) 01:42, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Good to go! AshLin (talk) 02:07, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Saudi Arabia)~~
~~... that King Faisal of Saudi Arabia also served as foreign minister during his reign?~~
~~Created by Yk Yk Yk (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 30 April 2011 (UTC)~~
ALT1:... that the Saudi Ministry of Foreign Affairs predates the founding of Saudi Arabia? - Yk (talk | contrib) 23:34, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

All checks out with good ref. Thank you. Both hooks are good but maybe the 2nd one is more catchy. Victuallers (talk) 07:34, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Phaeacius~~
~~... that Phaeacius, the laziest jumping spider, waits motionless until prey walks into its jaws?~~
~~5x expanded by Philcha (talk). Self nom at 08:07, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~

Date length and references are all good. I don't know about the term "laziest" in the hook though. What do you think of changing it to "unusually lazy" as this follows the reference much better. Also per the sources the prey just has to walk between the outstretched front legs and not into its jaws.--Kev min § 02:43, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
How about "... that Phaeacius, a very lazy jumping spider, waits motionless until prey walks almost into its jaws?" as the ref says what happens next? --Philcha (talk) 08:25, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

That should work.--Kev min § 17:16, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Philcha, I'm pretty sure I've seen a bunch of reviews from you, so could you list one of them here (and in your future nominations) to make it clear on each nomination that you have reviewed an article? OCNative (talk) 01:57, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Articles created/expanded on May 1~~
~~Wiki-Watch~~

~~... that Wiki-Watch (pictured) is a free software tool to automatically assess the reliability of Misplaced Pages articles?~~
~~Created by History2007 (talk) on May 1 2001. Self nom at 18:46, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed HMY Alexandra, just below. History2007 (talk) 23:38, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Hook, length, and age check out. Looks good. Interesting article, too. I think I'll check this one out. :D --Starstriker7 04:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~HMY Alexandra~~

~~... that the former British royal yacht Alexandra (pictured), sold to Norway in 1925, was sunk by Luftwaffe bombers when she tried to escape to the United Kingdom in 1940?~~
~~5x expanded by Manxruler (talk). Self nom at 22:46, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Reviewed Allegiance Council Manxruler (talk) 22:59, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Looks good. History2007 (talk) 23:38, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Thanks. Btw, I added a picture, and (pictured) to the hook. Manxruler (talk) 23:58, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 2011~~

~~... that Blue (pictured), who will represent the United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 2011, appeared naked in British gay magazine Attitude in May 2011?~~
~~5x expanded by Sims2aholic8 (talk). Self nom at 23:36, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Good to go. Jaespinoza (talk) 01:57, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Ashot Nadanian~~
~~... that at the 37th Chess Olympiad two of Ashot Nadanian's students won team gold and bronze medals playing for two different countries.~~
~~2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by MrsHudson (talk). Self nom at 17:38, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~

The relevant rule is a 2x expansion in 5 days for a BLP article. The history of Ashot Nadanian shows that the article was created on 12 July 2008 and there has not been a 2x expansion in any 5 days period after that. And the creation did not mention Nadanian's student's success. I'm sorry, but the article is not eligible for DYK. --Philcha (talk) 10:59, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
~~The Alchemist Discovering Phosphorus~~

~~... that Joseph Wright of Derby's painting, The Alchemist Discovering Phosphorus (detail pictured) was only sold after his death, when all of his possessions were auctioned at Christie's?~~
~~Created by Mum's taxi (talk). Nominated by Rock drum (talk) at 08:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Appears good to go. Schmidt, 20:31, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Women in Thailand~~
~~... that Orapin Chaiyakan became the first Thai woman to be elected to the House of Representatives of the National Assembly of Thailand?~~
~~Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 03:37, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Comment: the hook is about Orapin Chaiyakan, thus a random image of a Thai woman doesn't fit here. Materialscientist (talk) 09:53, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Removed (pictured) and image from DYK hook as requested. - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Self-nominator still needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 01:59, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Table tennis at the 2012 Summer Olympics. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:56, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~The Pride of the Family~~
~~... that Fay Wray played the mother of Natalie Wood in a forgotten sitcom, The Pride of the Family, which aired on ABC from 1953 to 1954?~~
~~Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:04, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Length just makes it. Date and references also verified. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 08:12, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Reviewed: George Gibb~~
~~Frontera Corozal, Chiapas~~
~~... that the community of Frontera Corozal, Chiapas, Mexico, is the main access to the Maya site of Yaxchilan?~~
~~5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 23:28, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
REVIEWED Don't Scare the HareThelmadatter (talk) 23:33, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

An a partial review of Battle for the Río San Juan de Nicaragua, Fortress of the Immaculate Conception, El Castillo (village), El Castillo (municipality), Rafaela HerreraThelmadatter (talk) 23:40, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Good to go, nice job!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:15, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~"," added after Mexico --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:50, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~German destroyer Z11 Bernd von Arnim~~
... that during the invasion of Narvik on 9 April 1940, the Norwegian coast defense ship Norge fired 13 shells at the German destroyer Z11 Bernd von Arnim at 600–800 meters (660–870 yd) range and missed?
~~5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 22:17, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~

Reviewed: Coaxial speakers--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:17, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Expansion cheks out, offline sources AGF, good to go. Constantine ✍ 17:21, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Coaxial speakers~~
~~... that the Altec Lansing 604 coaxial speaker became the standard U.S. studio monitor after 1945?~~
Reviewed: Gymnogaster ()
~~5x expanded by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 21:57, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~outside source verified.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:17, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Yohanan Danino~~
~~... that newly-appointed Commissioner of the Israel Police, Yohanan Danino, was involved in investigations against the Prime Minister, Finance Minister and Foreign Minister of Israel?~~
~~Created by Ynhockey (talk). Self nom at 20:31, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~

Reviewed John Wesley Snyder (Texas).

Hook length and article length OK. Article is new. Hook fact sourced in article.--DavidCane (talk) 23:46, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Black Versace dress of Elizabeth Hurley~~
... that "That Dress", worn by Elizabeth Hurley at the premiere of Four Weddings and a Funeral in 1994, has been voted the greatest dress of all time and is perhaps Gianni Versace's best-known creation?
~~Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 20:10, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~

Reviewed Billingshurst Unitarian Chapel.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:21, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Pierre Koffmann, La Tante Claire, Pig's trotters~~

~~... that Pierre Koffmann served a signature dish of pig's trotter (pictured) with chicken mousseline, sweetbreads and morels at his three Michelin star restaurant La Tante Claire?~~
~~Created/expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 19:53, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Pierre Koffmann and La Tante Claire are both new, while Pig's trotters is a 5x expansion. Will review three hooks now and list them below. Miyagawa (talk) 19:56, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Ok, reviewed Policies promoting wireless broadband, Dinochelus and Jesse H. Ausubel. Miyagawa (talk) 20:10, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
~~delicious, expansion of Koffmann and trotters verified, dates and refs fine, pic seems no problem, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~2011 New Patriotic Party Primaries~~
~~... that during the 2011 New Patriotic Party Primaries Musa Superior canvassed for votes through twitter and facebook~~
~~whiles living in the U.K. to win an election without ever meeting the electorates physically? Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 18:12, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Some problems with verifiability as mentioned at User talk:Crosstemplejay#2011 New Patriotic Party Primaries at DYK. --Beloved Freak 15:06, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Problems with verifiability corrected.--CrossTempleJay (talk) 15:27, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Gymnogaster~~

~~... that the fruit bodies of the Australian secotioid fungus Gymnogaster boletoides (pictured) will turn bright blue when injured or bruised?~~
Reviewed: House at 36 Forest Street (diff)
~~5x expanded by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 17:23, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Image is public domain, article length and date are good for 5x, and the hook is sourced to an offline text assumed to be worthy as it is a scientific study. Good to go! Binksternet (talk) 21:49, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

~~Billingshurst Unitarian Chapel~~

~~... that more than 120 family members of a founder of Billingshurst Unitarian Chapel (pictured) are buried in its graveyard?~~
~~Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 14:42, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed: Gustav Elfving (diff)

~~Good to go, nice job.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:20, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Arteriovenous oxygen difference~~
~~... that you can improve your maximum arteriovenous oxygen difference through aerobic exercise?~~
~~Created by Jjron (talk). Self nom at 05:21, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
ALT1:... that you can improve your maximum a-vO₂ diff through aerobic exercise?

Re ALT1: the hook's the same, but wondering whether using the abbreviation rather than the full term is more catchy? --jjron (talk) 06:16, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: James Beeching (diff)

Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. ALT1 is definitely catchy. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 10:38, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Women in Singapore~~

~~... that there are three paradoxes confronting career women in Singapore (pictured)?~~
~~Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:04, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~
DYK checks out but could certainly be expanded. Schmidt, 04:56, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

It is a new article and has 1849 characters in prose. Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:41, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Provided 2 more paragraphs with references anyway as per earlier request. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:18, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Self-nominator still needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 02:01, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Jean Perrot. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:19, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Review checks out. Since Leszek Jańczuk has confirmed that this article checks out, this nomination is ready to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 06:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~George Gibb~~
~~... that Sir George Gibb, head of the British government's former Road Board, was accused of having delayed the construction of new roads because he had been a railwayman?~~
~~Created by User:DavidCane (talk). Self nom at 16:26, 1 May 2011 (UTC)~~

Reviewed: Yohanan Danino (diff)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Billy Hathorn (talk • contribs) 00:20, 2 May 2011 (UTC) (diff)

~~Teresa de Jesús (film)~~
~~... that Teresa de Jesús, an 8 hour television/DVD mini-series about St. Teresa of Ávila, won the 1985 Spanish TP de Oro for Best National Series?~~
~~Created by Health Researcher (talk). Self nom at 17:51, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~

This is the 4th DYK nomination by the nominator.

- Article has sections that are mainly bulleted list instead of prose. I need a second opinion on this. Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
I think this is acceptable. It is a valid and relevant information and the bullets serve to better orientation in the article.--Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 10:45, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I just got the message, and came to look at the concern. It seems that according to the 2nd opinion (Vejvančický), the current format is OK. That's what my common sense says too (without having reviewed policy/guidelines). If necessary it would be easy to reformat as paragraphs, but in my own preference as a reader I think bullet points is actually slightly better - it makes the structure clear. -- Health Researcher (talk) 14:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Articles created/expanded on May 2~~
~~Battle of the Echinades (1427)~~
~~... that the Battle of the Echinades in 1427 was the last naval victory in the history of the Byzantine Empire?~~
~~Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 17:19, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed German destroyer Z11 Bernd von Arnim. Constantine ✍ 17:23, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 18:54, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Elegy on the Death of Daughter Olga~~

~~... that Leoš Janáček dedicated his opera Jenůfa and the cantata Elegy on the Death of Daughter Olga to the memory of his daughter (pictured)?~~
~~Created by Vejvančický (talk). Self nom at 15:04, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~I reviewed the article Jerry Shipp. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 15:13, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Big Neighborhood~~
~~... that Steve Vai plays the sitar on "Moroccan Roll", a track from Mike Stern's Grammy nominated album Big Neighborhood?~~
Reviewed: No Minor Vices
~~Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 02:11, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~

~~References are ok. Text at 1,887 characters long. Ready to be DYK'd. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Women in Armenia~~

~~... that the low presence of female participants in the politics of Armenia makes Armenia's women (pictured) among the most underrepresented in the world?~~
~~Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 23:50, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Hook, length and ref check out. Racepacket (talk) 01:30, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Self-nominator still needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 02:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: İnan Süver -AnakngAraw (talk) 03:07, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Review checks out. Since Racepacket confirms the hook, length, and ref, this is good to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 06:27, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~İnan Süver~~
~~... that Bono personally lobbied Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to investigate the treatment of imprisoned conscientious objector İnan Süver?~~
Reviewed Lolowah bint Faisal Al Saud.
~~Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 22:17, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Reference for hook is written by Bono himself, is that acceptable? -AnakngAraw (talk) 03:06, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
You raise a good point. I guess I'd argue that a primary source works in this case, as the existence of the source itself demonstrates the lobbying--in other words, if Bono writes that he's advocating on Suver's behalf, he's demonstrated that he's advocating for Erdogan to do this by the act of writing the post itself, even if he (improbably) never did anything else. Does that make sense? In any case, though, Bono's claim that he asked Erdogan about Suver is a modest one that I think he's unlikely to fabricate. Thanks for reviewing.-- Khazar (talk) 04:05, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Palace Lodge~~

~~... that the Odd Fellows and the Knights of Pythias worked together to build the Palace Lodge (pictured) in Winslow, Indiana?~~
~~Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 22:02, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~

Comment Nothing reviewed yet; I'll do that in a few hours. Nyttend (talk) 22:02, 2 May 2011 (UTC) Reviewed Vere Bird, Jr. Nyttend (talk) 03:24, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Length, date and ref checked, good to go - Basement12 (T.C) 11:10, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Charm Tong~~
~~... that in 2005, lobbyists attributed George W. Bush's increased "outspokenness" on Burmese human rights to a 50-minute meeting with Shan activist Charm Tong?~~
ALT1: ... that at the age of 17, activist Charm Tong addressed the United Nations Commission on Human Rights on the issue of systematic rape in her home of Shan State, Burma?
~~Reviewed Wadsworth Jarrell.~~
~~Created by Spc2011 (talk) and Khazar (talk). Nominated by Khazar (talk) at 20:47, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~

~~No Minor Vices~~
~~... that the 1948 comedy No Minor Vices was one of the only four films made by Dana Andrews for director Lewis Milestone?~~
Comment: for hook, see ref #3, page 49
Reviewed #The Alchemist Discovering Phosphorus
~~Created by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 20:39, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~good to go, interesting article J04n(talk page) 02:06, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Jean Perrot~~
~~... that Jean Perrot, co-founder of the journal Paléorient, excavated at Susa, Munhata and Beersheba?~~
Reviewed: Wedding dress of Grace Kelly
~~Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 19:18, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~

- Article at 1,969 characters. However, online reference is linked to a "book cover". Unverifiable. Unless reference is an offline source? - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:16, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

The Paleorient Journal website mentions Perrot founding it but I've strenghtened the sourcing with a direct mention here Société préhistorique française, p.3 (1982). Bulletin de la Société préhistorique française. Société préhistorique française. Retrieved 4 May 2011.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link) that says about co-founder Bernard Vandermeersch "En 1974, il collabore avec J. Perrot à la création de l'« Association Paléo-rient » dont le but était de lancer la revue Paléorient ... En 1977, Paléorient est devenue une revue du CNRS" on page 3. I'm taking it that was the verification problem, not the famous excavations. Thanks! Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 04:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Wadsworth Jarrell~~
~~... that Black Arts Movement artist Wadsworth Jarrell utilizes a bricklayer's trowel to create a 3-D look in his Afrocentric paintings?~~
Reviewed: Albert Roux
~~Created by SarahStierch (talk). Self nom at 16:32, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Length, date good to go. Hook ref offline, accepted IGF. Very nice article. -- Khazar (talk) 20:51, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Gain before feedback~~
~~... that gain before feedback is reduced when using multiple microphones for live sound?~~
Reviewed: Women's National Emergency Legion ()
~~Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 11:52, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Good to go. --Eisfbnore 17:52, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Albert Roux~~
~~... that Michel and Albert Roux were the first chefs in the UK to gain three Michelin stars?~~
Reviewed: Todo a su Tiempo (Marc Anthony album)
~~5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 11:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Checks out! SarahStierch (talk) 16:32, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Gene Schoor~~
... that Gene Schoor, the author of more than forty "juvenile" sports biographies, was awarded $5000 damages in a suit against boxing champion Rocky Marciano for being punched by him? 63.17.84.226 (talk) 07:32, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: ]
~~Created/expanded by 63.17.49.31 (talk). Self nom at 07:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Hook, length, creation date checkout fine. Lead needs work to bring in line with MOS and the article needs categories. --Mike Cline (talk) 13:15, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~The article has categories, e.g., "Litigation."63.17.32.233 (talk) 07:52, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Can someone who knows what "MOS" means -- make the lead more MOSy?63.17.32.233 (talk) 08:03, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
MOS stands for Manual Of Style. gz (talk) 08:22, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Issues resolved, article is good to go. Still could be improved with an Infobox, and there are a large number of other articles that cite Schoor's books that could be authorlinked to this article. --Mike Cline (talk) 12:44, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Thanks Mike Cline. I've added an infobox.63.17.74.194 (talk) 00:13, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Vere Bird, Jr.~~
... that Antiguan politician Vere Bird, Jr. became Minister of Science, Technology and Communications in 1996, despite an earlier report recommending that he never be allowed to hold public office again?
~~Created by Ironholds (talk) Self-nom at 20:04, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Reviewed Econfina Creek. Ironholds (talk) 20:07, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Well-written article without any problems: it's obviously ready to go. Nyttend (talk) 03:23, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Lolowah bint Faisal Al Saud~~
~~... that Princess Lolowah supports overturning the prohibition of women from driving in Saudi Arabia?~~
~~5x expanded by Yk Yk Yk (talk). Self nom at 20:41, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~

* According DYK Check, article has not been expanded x5. Probably needs just a little more--remember that only visible article text counts. -- Khazar (talk) 22:23, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
I've expanded the article further. Thanks for reviewing. - Yk (talk | contrib) 23:27, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Date, length, hook all confirmed. Good to go. -- Khazar (talk) 23:36, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Note: always confirm manually when DYKcheck claims insufficient expansion. DYKcheck was wrong here. Expansion was fine before that additional expansion: 366 to 2134 characters is 5.8x. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:46, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, Mandarax, will keep that in mind. Sorry for the false negative, Yk. -- Khazar (talk) 03:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Oneida Street Station~~

~~... that the use of pulverized coal in boilers was pioneered at Oneida Street Station in Milwaukee, Wisconsin?~~
~~Created by Freekee (talk). Self nom at 01:47, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Alternatively ... that the use of pulverized coal in boilers, which was pioneered at Oneida Street Station in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, was vigorously opposed by some engineers?

The article is currently about 1,000 characters and does not mean the length requirement. It also lacks the required in-line citations to comply with DYK rules. Cbl62 (talk) 03:46, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

~~George Edmund Butler‎~~
~~... that George Edmund Butler‎ was an official war artist for New Zealand during World War I eventhough he lived in the United Kingdom?~~
ALT1:... that George Edmund Butler‎ was an official war artist for New Zealand during World War I?
~~Created by Labattblueboy (talk). Self nom at 18:54, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Articles created/expanded on May 3~~
~~W. D. Twichell~~
~~... that W. D. Twichell surveyed more than 40 towns and 165 of the 254 counties in Texas and even launched the concert band in Amarillo?~~
~~Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 14:19, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Reviewed Maryland Bridge~~
~~Women in Oman~~

~~... that the women in Oman (pictured) belong to a country that is considered to be one of the most advanced in the Persian Gulf in terms of women's rights?~~
~~Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 23:56, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 01:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Self-nominator still needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 02:03, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Big Neighborhood - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:39, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Review checks out. Since Leszek Jańczuk confirms the rest of this nomination, this is good to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 06:28, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Dick Davies~~
~~... that Dick Davies holds the rare distinction of having played for four coaches who are now in the Basketball Hall of Fame?~~
Reviewed: John Sanford (author)
~~Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 20:51, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~

~~John Sanford (author)~~
~~... that John Sanford was called "perhaps the most outstanding neglected novelist"?~~
~~5x expanded by Comte0 (talk). Self nom at 20:26, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed Balai Pustaka. Comte0 (talk) 20:41, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

5× expansion and date check out. I have to AGF that the source is correct since it is a book not linked to an internet copy. Jrcla2 (talk) 20:50, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Google books yields . "Perhaps" was added to the hook as a result. Regards, Comte0 (talk) 21:03, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
~~William Hamilton (cartoonist)~~
~~... that New Yorker cartoonist William Hamilton was married to the granddaughter of Brazilian dictator Getúlio Vargas?~~
~~Created by Gamaliel (talk). Self nom at 19:01, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed Florida (Where the Sawgrass Meets the Sky)

Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:39, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~J. Paul Getty Trust~~
~~... that the J. Paul Getty Trust is the world's wealthiest art institution with an estimated endowment in April 2009 of $4.2 billion?~~
~~5x expanded by Racepacket (talk). Self nom at 18:50, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Reviewed: O'Donnell Heritage Museum ()~~
~~Date and length Hook reference 1 is accepted in good faith (AGF} sourced to The New York Times.--Nvvchar. 07:29, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Bernard Trottier~~
~~... that Conservative Party candidate Bernard Trottier won a seat in the 41st Canadian Parliament by defeating the incumbent Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada in the 2011 federal election?~~
Reviewed: Prometheus Radio Project v. FCC ()
~~Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 15:01, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~

~~O'Donnell Heritage Museum~~

~~... that the O'Donnell Heritage Museum (pictured) contains a Dan Blocker display dedicated to the Bonanza star who was reared in rural O'Donnell in West Texas?~~
~~Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 14:32, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Reviewed: Osama bin Laden's Hideout Compound~~
No reference for "a Dan Blocker room" - which appears in the photo caption. Ref 1 supports the name Dan Blocker Museum. Not clear if Ref 1 is a reliable source. Length and age are ok. Racepacket (talk) 18:57, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
The Blocker material is in a separate room on the top floor. Source 1 says "there is simply a Dan Blocker area to the museum of artifacts." It uses area, rather than room. Whether room or area, it shouldn't matter. The musuem is not named the "Dan Blocker Museum" as I explained. Billy Hathorn (talk) 19:10, 3 May 2011 (UTC) no "C
What makes ref 1 a reliable source? How about changing the hook to "Dan Blocker display"? Racepacket (talk) 19:33, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Change made. Billy Hathorn (talk) 23:50, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Good to go. Racepacket (talk) 02:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Balai Pustaka~~
~~... that although Balai Pustaka published some of the most famous examples of Indonesian literature, it may soon be liquidated?~~
~~Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 13:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Hook, length, creation date checkout fine. Assume good faith on external sources. Comte0 (talk) 20:39, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Gunner (dog) Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:43, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Osama bin Laden's Hideout Compound~~

~~... that Osama bin Laden's hideout compound (pictured) is known locally as Waziristan Haveli mansion?~~
~~Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 12:38, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Billy Hathorn (talk) 14:38, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

One of the self-nominators still needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 02:05, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed J. Paul Getty Trust.--Nvvchar. 07:31, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Review checks out. Since Billy Hathorn signed off on everything else related to this hook, this is ready for DYK. OCNative (talk) 15:39, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Table tennis at the 2012 Summer Olympics~~
~~... that 172 athletes will compete for four gold medals in table tennis at the 2012 Summer Olympics?~~
Reviewed: Palace Lodge ()
~~Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 11:15, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~

- Article has 1,781 characters. However the article has redlinks, including See also portion. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:53, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm not aware of any rules against having redlinks in a DYK article (only in the hook). In any case the article that the redlink led to has now been created - Basement12 (T.C) 07:40, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Banksia candolleana~~

~~... that Banksia candolleana shrubs have been estimated at 1000 years old?~~
~~5x expanded by Casliber (talk), Hesperian (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 08:42, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~reviewing Neviusia dunthornei~~
~~reviewed by Til Eulenspiegel - was expanded and is about 50% new. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 14:51, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
"50% new" sounded a bit ominous, as that would imply a 2x expansion only. It's a 6.5x expansion and it just scrapes in at above 1500B of readable prose. Regarding the hook fact reference, what is online is an abstract, but that doesn't confirm the fact. Hence, AGF for the fact being in the book proper. Schwede66 23:46, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Florida (Where the Sawgrass Meets the Sky)~~
~~... that "Florida (Where the Sawgrass Meets the Sky)" was intended to replace a purportedly racist song as the Florida State Song?~~
~~5x expanded by Horologium (talk). Self nom at 03:54, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~

Reviewed: Rabboni (steam tug)
ALT1: ... that the Florida State Anthem, "Florida (Where the Sawgrass Meets the Sky)", was written by a Briton who had lived in Florida for only a dozen years? Horologium (talk) 03:54, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
reviewed by Gamaliel, who has lived in Florida longer than the author of the new song. (talk) 19:15, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Which hook? I personally prefer ALT1, especially since the original does not link to the purportedly racist song. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:59, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Or perhaps ALT2: "... that "Florida (Where the Sawgrass Meets the Sky)" was intended to replace a purportedly racist song as the Florida State Song?" Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:35, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Neviusia dunthornei~~
~~... that the extinct rose family member Neviusia dunthornei is one of only three known Neviusia species?~~
~~Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 03:29, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~the links to abstracts for the first two refs appear not to be working. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:49, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed: Phaeacius
Odd the links for the abstracts seem to be working fine for me. The only one that appears to not be working (and I cant seem to get it to work) is the pubmed ID for DeVore et all (2004). Can you try again.--Kev min § 17:14, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
PMID still not working but it has a direct link now so can let it slide WRT DYK. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:36, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

good to go. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Allegiance Council~~
~~... that the formation of the Allegiance Council changed the laws of succession in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia?~~
~~Created by Yk Yk Yk (talk). Self nom at 20:01, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Length, hook and date checks out. Manxruler (talk) 22:56, 3 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Articles created/expanded on May 4~~
~~Saints Peter and Paul Church, Kraków~~

~~... that the longest Foucault pendulum in Poland (46,5 m), is suspended inside the Church of Saints Peter and Paul (pictured) in the Old Town district of Kraków?~~
~~Created by Krakowski (talk). Self nom at 18:57, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Operation Mallard~~

~~... that on 6 June 1944 during Operation Mallard, the Tetrarch (pictured) became the first tanks to be flown into battle?~~

~~Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 17:33, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~

Reviewed Noriaki Tsuchimoto below Jim Sweeney (talk) 17:45, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Can this be kept for the anniversary of the operation on the 6 June's page.Jim Sweeney (talk) 17:33, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Noriaki Tsuchimoto~~
~~... that Japanese filmmaker Noriaki Tsuchimoto documented both the ravages of Minamata disease and Afghanistan before the Taliban?~~
Reviewed: Melba (film) ()
~~5x expanded by Michitaro (talk). Self nom at 17:22, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~

~~date length and hook cited good to go Jim Sweeney (talk) 17:42, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Gunner (dog)~~

~~Add rollover text!~~
... that during the bombing of Darwin in World War II, Gunner's hearing was so acute he was able to warn air force personnel of approaching Japanese aircraft up to 20 minutes before they arrived and before they showed up on radar?
~~Created by Spy007au (talk). Self nom at 11:46, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Date of creation and length seem to check out, as do the online sources. Offline source accepted in good faith. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
But perhaps ALT1 : "... that during the bombing of Darwin in World War II, Gunner's hearing was so acute that he detected approaching Japanese aircraft before they showed up on radar?"
The original is a little long. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:40, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

~~Knut Tvedt~~
~~... that Knut Tvedt had various positions in the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation for almost twenty-five years?~~
ALT1:... that despite Knut Tvedt's support in the board of the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation, Hans Jacob Ustvedt was appointed the corporation's director-general in 1962?
~~Created by Eisfbnore (talk). Self nom at 11:22, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Reviewed. Appears okay. Nominator needs to review one himself. Schmidt, 15:59, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Oh, sorry, forgot about that, now done at Gain before feedback --Eisfbnore 17:54, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Melba (film)~~
~~... that Lewis Milestone's 1953 musical biographical drama Melba, about the life of soprano Nellie Melba, was the feature film debut of Metropolitan Opera star Patrice Munsel?~~
Comment: Reviewed #White House Press Secretary Schmidt, 07:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Created by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 07:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Date, length and hook reference verified. However, of the four citations offered to prove the hook reference, only the last two specifically state this is her screen debut. The first two should be removed as citations for that. Michitaro (talk) 17:12, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
As those cites contain other non-related but pertinant information for our readers, I have simply moved them to another spot eithin the lede. Thanks. Schmidt, 19:42, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

~~Met Ball~~
~~... that the Met Ball is considered to be the fashion industry's premier annual red carpet event?~~
Reviewed: Brand Building, Collins Block, Harley Baldwin
~~Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 05:23, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
N.B. I had reviewed this triple article hook and only nominated two articles (Mitch Henderson on 4/27 and Reasons (Earth, Wind & Fire song) on 4/25).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:26, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~KOI-428b~~
~~... that extrasolar planet KOI-428b was confirmed as a planet after astronomers compiled the equivalent to one night of observations on the planet using a 1.93m telescope?~~
~~Created by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed: Wiki-Watch --Starstriker7 04:52, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Length, date and hook reference 1 and all verified. Nice article. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 07:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~Maryland Bridge~~
~~... that a corner post shaped as a cairn has been preserved in the third construction of the so-named Maryland Bridge in Winnipeg, Canada?~~
~~Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 04:36, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~
Reviewed: William Hamilton (cartoonist)
I believe the title is misleading. It may imply the MD near Washington, D.C. Shouldn't you put Winnipeg or Canada after "Maryland Bridge". There could be more on the significance of this bridge? Billy Hathorn (talk) 14:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
~~I tried to rewrite the hook. Billy Hathorn (talk) 14:29, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Special occasion holding area~~
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~~8 May, second Sunday after Easter~~
~~Du Hirte Israel, höre, BWV 104~~

... that Bach set the theme of the Good Shepherd in his cantata for the second Sunday after Easter, Du Hirte Israel, höre, BWV 104, as a Pastorale, a trio of oboes playing triplets to pedal points?
~~Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 22:06, 2 May 2011 (UTC)~~
reviewed: #GeoCenter Møns Klint - nom for 8 May, second Sunday after Easter --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:15, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:15, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
~~May 14 (FA Cup Final)~~
~~1926 FA Cup Final~~
~~... that after the 1926 FA Cup Final, Manchester City F.C. became the first team to reach the final and suffer relegation in the same season?~~
~~5x expanded by Oldelpaso (talk). Self nom at 16:03, 24 April 2011 (UTC)~~

Reviewed Ron Hextall ()
Looks ready to go. History2007 (talk) 20:47, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Keep for this year's FA Cup Final on May 14th? Miyagawa (talk) 18:08, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Agreed and moved. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 18:36, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
~~June 2 (Feast of the Ascension)~~
~~Ascension of Jesus in Christian art~~

~~... that the depictions of the Ascension of Jesus in Christian art (pictured) are often divided into an upper (heavenly) and lower (earthly) part?~~
Reviewed: 1926 FA Cup Final
~~Created by History2007 (talk). Self nom at 21:50, 24 April 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Comment: Here is the G-book link for the hook (is also in the article). History2007 (talk) 21:03, 24 April 2011 (UTC)~~

~~Comment: will be appropriate for Feast of the Ascension, June 2, 2011. History2007 (talk) 21:03, 24 April 2011 (UTC)~~
the hook, date, length, references all check out so I'll pass this for DYK. Now, as for some feedback on the article, you don't "usually" need sources for the info in the lead. The idea is that the info in the lead should be an overview of information in the article. Also consolidate some of your sources when you get a chance, I see some repeats in there (see citation pages on Wiki for the html templates). But theses are all suggestions for GA status or B-class rating. I also moved you up to a C-class rating for you because it is a good article and well written. look forward to seeing it on the front page, Cheers! Kayz911 (talk) 05:34, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
~~June 6 (Queensland Day)~~
~~Anzac Avenue~~
~~... that Anzac Avenue is the longest World War I memorial road in Queensland?~~
~~Reviewed: Amie mac Ruari ()~~
~~5x expanded by Lankiveil (talk). Self nom at 01:45, 25 April 2011 (UTC)~~
All checks out - ready to go. Harrison49 (talk) 16:14, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Looks good indeed. I just think it's a shame you couldn't use it on the main page today as it's ANZAC day. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 21:16, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. That was the intention, but you know, procrastination ;). Lankiveil 22:44, 25 April 2011 (UTC).
Queensland "was named in honour of Queen Victoria, who on 6 June 1859 signed Letters Patent separating the colony from New South Wales." (Copied from Queensland#Etymology.) So 6 June 2011, which is only a few weeks ahead, may be a good day to put a photo of this street in Queensland on MainPage. --PFHLai (talk) 18:27, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
I hadn't thought of doing it as a Queensland Day one, but I quite like the idea, and have no objections at all! 110.174.224.43 (talk) 08:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC).
~~June 12 (Pentecost)~~
~~Ipomopsis sancti-spiritus~~
~~... that the Holy Ghost ipomopsis found in the Sangre de Cristo Mountains in New Mexico is predicted to become extinct in 50 years?~~
~~Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:48, 20 April 2011 (UTC)~~
~~Length, date, and hook reference (3) all check out. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 08:41, 20 April 2011 (UTC)~~
Shall we wait for Pentecost? Probably a little too far ahead in future.... --PFHLai (talk) 17:29, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Good idea. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 11:20, 28 April 2011 (UTC)