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	:: Better, but I think serious ] concerns remain here. Author of a single book that appears to be self-published, and republished by some non-notable publisher. The mention of her book should go in a bibliography section. But then the biography itself is again without independant references, and falls back almost completely on self-published sources. Is a single book showing up in google book search, and a few trivial mentions in other non-notable publications enough to support notability?		:: Better, but I think serious ] concerns remain here. Author of a single book that appears to be self-published, and republished by some non-notable publisher. The mention of her book should go in a bibliography section. But then the biography itself is again without independant references, and falls back almost completely on self-published sources. Is a single book showing up in google book search, and a few trivial mentions in other non-notable publications enough to support notability?
	::The last paragraph "''In 2002, Houlding launched an Internet astrological website entitled Skyscript. She studies the history of astrology, runs her own school of horary (STA), and writes regularly for the Mountain Astrologer magazine. Her book The Houses: Temples of the Sky was expanded and published by Wessex Astrologer in 2006.''" seems to be largely redundant, but if I merge it in the rest of the article what will be left that can be sourced indepedantly ? ] (]) 07:00, 31 May 2011 (UTC)		::The last paragraph "''In 2002, Houlding launched an Internet astrological website entitled Skyscript. She studies the history of astrology, runs her own school of horary (STA), and writes regularly for the Mountain Astrologer magazine. Her book The Houses: Temples of the Sky was expanded and published by Wessex Astrologer in 2006.''" seems to be largely redundant, but if I merge it in the rest of the article what will be left that can be sourced indepedantly ? ] (]) 07:00, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

			:: I am also finding that according to ] a book is not notable just because it has ISBN number and appears in google book search. -- If the book is not notable then we will need other references to establish that this author is notable. ] (]) 07:32, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

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This article seems to have been a stub forever. It contains no sources (have added a tag for it). Looks like self promotion WP:SOAP And has too many links that go to same site WP:ELNO MakeSense64 (talk) 12:25, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Agree. Serious notability concerns. I checked selected online media sources in Britain, Ireland, US, worldwide, casting a wide net -- no mention of her from reporters or valid secondary sources. Looks like this article is self-promotion.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 12:47, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

However she's a published author, with results on Google Books. My sense is: the article needs cleanup.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 12:53, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Better, but I think serious notability concerns remain here. Author of a single book that appears to be self-published, and republished by some non-notable publisher. The mention of her book should go in a bibliography section. But then the biography itself is again without independant references, and falls back almost completely on self-published sources. Is a single book showing up in google book search, and a few trivial mentions in other non-notable publications enough to support notability?

The last paragraph "In 2002, Houlding launched an Internet astrological website entitled Skyscript. She studies the history of astrology, runs her own school of horary (STA), and writes regularly for the Mountain Astrologer magazine. Her book The Houses: Temples of the Sky was expanded and published by Wessex Astrologer in 2006." seems to be largely redundant, but if I merge it in the rest of the article what will be left that can be sourced indepedantly ? MakeSense64 (talk) 07:00, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

I am also finding that according to notability(books) a book is not notable just because it has ISBN number and appears in google book search. -- If the book is not notable then we will need other references to establish that this author is notable. MakeSense64 (talk) 07:32, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

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