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I saw your note

Jehocman, I saw your note on my page, and yes, I absolutely agree that there are some editors causing problems on that page. Why not simply delete the page per the policy on attack pages ? (and yes, I'll do as you ask and not re-nominate it) :) KoshVorlon' _{Nal Aeria} 11:31, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

MY first thought was "just delete this", but looking over the CSD reason codes I didn't feel comfortable with any of them. As it now stands, the article has been retitled and refocused, which mitigates some but not all of the problems. If you stay out of the line of fire, that will make it easier for me to remove any tendentious editors who try to use the article as an attack page. Thank you for your understanding and calm responses to all of this. Jehochman 13:00, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Jehocman, the article itself is an attack page. The term was coined to disparge Rick Santorum, so any use of the term, even if it's references is automatically an attack o Rick Santorum. This, therefore, is an attack page.

I understand you want the page to calm down, and I'll do my part (no posting on the page, no nom'ing for deleteion or anything else) as I said, but under that circumstance, policy is clear, the page needs to be deleted. Does that sound like a fair reading of policy ? KoshVorlon' _{Nal Aeria} 14:14, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

WP:BOMB

Hi Jonathan, I wanted to add my name to your many admirers here for how you've brought some measure of sanity and organization to the Santorum/santorum mess. Jayen, I, and others have been collaborating on an essay on real or perceived Wikibombing at WP:BOMB (though Jayen's been doing all the heavy lifting so far). As the primary author of Misplaced Pages:Search engine optimization, would you be able to stop by and give a few thoughts? Thanks for all you do. -- Khazar (talk) 14:40, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Just FYI

You can probably effect real change to the state terrorism article at this point, without encountering the previous conditions. Best luck. V7-sport (talk) 23:47, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

OK, I'll bite

So... I understand the words separately, but what does the phrase "victimized by social engineering" mean? What are you talking about? Are you lapsing into Dino Ursprache? Bishonen | talk 21:04, 1 July 2011 (UTC).

See Social engineering (security). "Tricked" would be a concise but less nuanced synonym. Jehochman 23:02, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Insanity

I must apologise for demurring at your "insanity" — I hadn't read your latest link when I did. It's the only word for it, I agree. Even the tolerant Bishzilla is weirded out. Bishonen | talk 13:23, 3 July 2011 (UTC).

Please leave the Cirt RFC to neutral admins for closure

Jehochman you are not a neutral party in that matter. You have a track record of running interference for Cirt. You are heavily involved in several of the incidents linked to by people participating in the RFC. Also, you wrote a highly non-neutral summary in your closure. Had an uninvolved admin done so I would have been OK with it. Had you closed with a neutral comment like, "Without prejudice closing because of pending arbitration" I might also been OK with it. But what you did is not OK. Please do not do it again. Cheers.Griswaldo (talk) 15:41, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Have a nice day, Griswaldo. Jehochman 16:07, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

FWIW, RfC/Us are usually only closed after an arbitration is finally accepted - that is, after either the case pages are opened or the motion is enacted; until then, the RfC/U generally stays open. This allows RfCs to continue (without unnecessary delay/disruption) in the event that an arbitration request has been declined. Ncmvocalist (talk) 16:16, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Interesting. In this case we have all the usual people repeating the same arguments. The outcome is already clear enough. On balance I think the value of keeping this feud page running is less than the resulting damage. If you'd like to help with management and closure of the RFC, that's fine with me. I will not be taking further steps, because I don't edit war. Jehochman 16:18, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Request for Arbitration Notification

Hello, due to recent events a request for arbitration has been filed by ResidentAnthropologist (talk · contribs) regarding long standing issues in the "Cult" topic area. The request can be found at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Cults - I have added you to the case , after your closure of User:Cirt's RFCUser you are clearly involved now. Off2riorob (talk) 17:33, 5 July 2011 (UTC)