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I did say who the source was. I clearly put ''Rebel propaganda image''. The image was made by opposition/rebel activists and uploaded for dissemination for propaganda purposes. I don't understand what the problem is. If you still think that's not enough than I'll just get an image grab from one of their low-resolution videos from youtube which I think will be more in line with Wiki policy, but again I think that all the bases have been covered here. ] (]) 18:48, 20 April 2012 (UTC) | I did say who the source was. I clearly put ''Rebel propaganda image''. The image was made by opposition/rebel activists and uploaded for dissemination for propaganda purposes. I don't understand what the problem is. If you still think that's not enough than I'll just get an image grab from one of their low-resolution videos from youtube which I think will be more in line with Wiki policy, but again I think that all the bases have been covered here. ] (]) 18:48, 20 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
==Samofi== | |||
Hello Future Perfect at Sunrise, | |||
I do not want to badger you, but there is an ongoing problem with Samofi. As you might be aware of it, he does not adhere to his topic-ban you are placed under. If you do not want to enforce it, then it is an advice and not an ArbCom resolution that has no compulsory power. However, I do not think that Samofi is apt to be taken to AE, I might report him for a topic-ban violation, but, it won't solve anything. Perhaps, he could get a block for a duration of one week, and then he will refrain from editing the moot articles, he is topic-banned from until 2-3 days at best. It is true that Sammofi has a POV, however, my main problem with this user is that the way in which he conducts himself permanently does not indicate any consistency or logic. I do not know how to call his behaviour so that it lest fall under ], therefore; I would call it confused. | |||
It is just a thing that this user does not want to adhere to his topic-ban, but that he made two attempts at block-shopping aimed at two Hungarian users including me, yesterday, it just goes beyond all reason that I should yet tolerate. Not to mention that his reports abundantly cover his topic-ban in any possible sense... | |||
:Given that once already Samofi was blocked for a duration of indefinite from which he got a second chance to return . Well, actually, indef seems reasonable again. I do not know what your opinion is about it. Please let me know: | |||
#you are willing to consider conducting an indef-block | |||
#you do not want to conduct it ,but have no objection to the motion being proposed at ] | |||
#you oppose it. | |||
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The building picture I submitted will not be used after all
I already removed it from the KCPT page, realizing that taking a photo of the building myself would be better than using someone else's photos whether it is considered fair use or not. Plus, that photo was of the backside of the building and not the front (a view of the front would be better). Therefore, feel free to remove that photo from this site. It will not be used. --CastleBuff
File:Teletype Corporation advertisement for the Model 28 Line of Equipment.jpg
On 9 April, you wrote:
Claimed to be public domain with a reasoning based on the fact that the trademark representing the company is no longer trademark-protected. However, since copyright and trademark are entirely different things, this is hardly a valid argument for PD. Might conceivably be PD for some other reason (non-renewal etc.). Fut.Perf. ☼ 22:17, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
As noted by me on 9 April, the document does carry a trademark but does not carry a corpright. As I've also noted, The US Patent and Trademark Office records state "This registration was not renewed and therefore expired." This status change happened on December 15, 2000. Serial Number: 73157988, Registration Number: 1119161. The last renewal was on May 29, 1979. The trademark was transferred to AT&T on July 12, 1985 and they never renewed it.
Yet, I do not see the discussion closed. How do I escalate this issue within Wikepedia to get resolution? Wa3frp (talk) 14:42, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
- There's no need to do anything else right now. The discussion on WP:PUF will be closed in due time by another admin. With your statement there about the lack of a copyright notice on the publication itself you've provided a serious argument that may well mean we can keep the file. I think it's a lot more compelling than what you previously said about the trademarks. I'll have to check again about the rules (these copyright renewal and registration rules for US publications are notoriously messy), but if I find it all adds up, I may well retract the deletion proposal – Give me a day or two, okay? Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:05, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
- multiple days given, no action seen...00:44, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
The One Where Rachel Smokes.jpg
Thank you for the notification. I believe I have addressed NFCC#8, do I have to wait for someone to double check this or should I remove the template? -- Lemonade51 (talk) 13:33, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Fair use rationale format
Hey... the image File:Sanjeev kumar-3-650x700-2008-12-12.jpg that you tagged for deletion is of a deceased Bollywood actor. Where can i find the format for the fair-use rationale of deceased people? §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 17:58, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
- Hello, thanks for asking. There isn't any fixed prescribed format. You just need to explain in a bit more detail, in your own words, why you think this image fits our criteria. Please consider especially if there might not be free alternatives – old movies where the movie itself has fallen into the public domain; photographs published in the US without copyright notices, that sort of thing. Just explain how you have explored such alternatives and why you feel there are no such alternatives to be found. You should also give a bit more information about the original source. This pic doesn't actually look like a "portrait", more like a screenshot from a movie, so where is it from? Some particularly well-known role of his? Incidentally, I'd also recommend exchanging {{Non-free historic image}} with {{Non-free biog-pic}}, which fits this situation better. It's not really a "unique historic photograph", is it? Fut.Perf. ☼ 18:15, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Undid Wanga tribe (Luhya)
Ok, firstly I would like to query when you visited Kenya and/or how you are such an expert on the Wanga Kingdom? Misplaced Pages is an online encyclopaedia for the purposes of generating information for public knowledge. As a Wanga I take great exception to your high-handedness in unilaterlally deleting information that I compiled from openly available public material and for purposes of public knowledge especially for the thousands of young Wanga children who do not have a simple, compiled and generally accurate knowledge of their history. If you dont have a history or culture then don't disrespect the history and culture of others.
- Your attitude is unacceptable for a collaborative project; you'll need to change it or you'll soon find yourself blocked from editing. To determine whether material is suitable for Misplaced Pages, it is entirely irrelevant whether I know Kenya, or whether you are a Wanga yourself, and making snide insinuations about me "not having a history or culture" is rather uncalled-for too. You are very welcome to continue contributing to your favourite topic, but your contributions need to stick to this project's content standards. Information needs to be properly sourced to reliable sources; text must be neutral and encyclopedic in tone; text must not be copy-pasted verbatim from other sources so as to not violate copyrights; images must be properly sourced and freely licensed. Your work so far unfortunately failed on all these counts. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:11, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
WP:PEACOCK language
But Choky Ice is an award-winning performer. How is that "puffery" or considered bias? It's not like I said he was legendary or something along those lines.--LowKey08 (talk) 08:42, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
- The word "award-winning" in the lead sentence of a bio is almost always problematic. It is of very little substance – anybody could have won some award for something at some point in their lives; the word gives no information about how significant the award was and to what degree it is representative of the sum total of that person's work. Yet, at the same time, it suggests some special quality of that person's work as a whole. I know this adjective is unfortunately (ab)used very often in this fashion, but it shouldn't be. If a particular award he won is particularly important and truly representative of this person's work, "due weight" considered, then just say that he won it, perhaps at the end of the lead section. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:48, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Mercedes-Benz M-Class (W163)
I disagree with your consensus and feel you did not really study any differences between both the prototype design and the actual manufactured production vehicle. There are clearly visual differences between the clay model from 3 years prior to production and the 1998-2001 models. Obviously there are all-red taillights, much shorter lower body cladding in black plastic on the sides of the mock W163. A design element which never showed up on the 1998-1999 ML320 that had the two-tone design in lower grey plastic cladding nor the full body-coloring of the 1999-2001 ML430 and 2000-2001 ML320. The grille is also different as there are 5 bars in it versus the 3 bars on the production models in 1997 and the 1998 ML430. Most importantly, it's a clay model. Not an actual motor vehicle, but the source of its design which is pivotal to its existence as to why I included it.Carmaker1 (talk) 08:31, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
- You might have a case for including the images if there were reliable sources discussing these differences and the further development of the design between these prototypes and the final release, and if there was some discussion based on these sources in the article. Without discussion in the article, the images are worthless, and without sources, the discussion would be WP:OR. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:35, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Files for deletion/2012 April 15#File:Pilot (The Cosby Show) monopoly lesson.png
You never commented at Misplaced Pages:Files_for_deletion/2012_April_15#File:Pilot_.28The_Cosby_Show.29_monopoly_lesson.png on whether you would consider evaluating images like all the other Image reviewers do.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:32, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
- Also, you don't seem to have tagged the image correctly, as I noted there.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:33, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
First, I do not have the time to engage in a sustained debate over several days for each, highly repetitive, case of a random non-free image that an uploader chooses to dig in his heels over. I made my point, and you made yours. Second, I simply do not accept that whatever people do at FA reviews has any bearing on the correct application of NFC policy. In my experience, people at FA are no more competent and only marginally more careful than the average user when it comes to judging NFC issues. NFC policy is shaped at WT:NFC and at FFD, and I know what the consensus is there. Your suggestion that we should submit to a "majority decision" of FA reviews of some kind makes no sense to me at all. If a majority of FAs have some non-free image, then every article can have some random one? That's absurd.
As for tagging, I use Twinkle for nominating images for deletion, as do most other people who do this job with some regularity, and Twinkle is supposed to do whatever tagging is necessary. Given the high volume of bad images that have to be nominated every day, and the tedious and mechanical nature of manual notifications, I personally refuse to do any tagging beyond what is automated. If you want more notifications in other places, please ask some bot programmer to help. What I do has been the common practice at FFD for years, and if there are still some normative texts anywhere around that suggest there is an obligation to do more, those texts have been out of touch with reality for a long time. Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:58, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Since your are deleting my stuff....
...here's a few of mine you can recommend to save you the trouble of looking:
- File:The Killing Numb Infobox.jpg
- File:The Killing Lucky Day Infobox.jpg
- File:The Killing Reflections Infobox.jpg
Glad I could save the trouble of looking for them! — WylieCoyote (talk) 00:05, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- Huh? Who are you? "Old foe" !? If you think I'm systematically out to delete your uploads, aren't you overestimatint your own importance a bit? I don't know you from a hole in the ground. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:57, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Block of User:Lung Salad
Don't know the background here, but it looks like User:Gotthethrill is User:Lung salad:
Tom Harrison 11:27, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- Indeed, seems pretty obvious. Blocked; thanks for the heads-up. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:47, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
SeikoEn again
Hi, looks like SeikoEn, whom you have topic-banned last year, is back using two other accounts. The checkuser has confirmed that these accounts are run by a same person, but couldn't confirm their identity with SeikoEn (and his previous sock Vitaly N.), because the accounts appear to be stale. I think their identity is pretty obvious and thus they both should be indeffed on grounds of the duck test. --glossologist (talk) 16:51, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Abuse Filter on the Article Feedback Tool
Hey there :). You're being contacted because you're an edit filter manager, At the moment, we're developing Version 5 of the Article Feedback Tool, which you may or may not have heard about. If you haven't; for the first time, this will involve a free-text box where readers can submit comments :). Obviously, there's going to be junk, and we want to minimise that junk. To do so, we're working the Abuse Filter into the tool.
For this to work, we need people to write and maintain filters. I'd be very grateful if you could take a look at the discussion here and the attached docs, and comment and contribute! Thanks :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 18:16, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Tacitus on Christ
Hi, I think Tacitus on Christ needs to be semi protected for 3 months or so, given the persistent sockpuppet issues. Now we just had a new user whose first edit was a statement which did not correspond to the source. It may well be a new strategy for the indef-blocked user. He may come back with totally new accounts to just add items that have no source, but will claim sources for them, etc. as happened today. He seems to be very persistent and it will be just to hard to deal with unless there is semi-protection. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 00:58, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Quick favour please?
To save me opening half a dozen PUI's when we've already been there with Misplaced Pages:Possibly unfree files/2012 February 2#File:Owen Paterson Official.jpg. Latest sock from a serial copyright abuser has uploaded more images which have the same licensing problem. They have uploaded some others that are OK and some others which need to go to PUI for a new discussion, but these are the ones that can hopefully be deleted straight away.
- File:Lord Astor Minister.jpg
- File:Peter Luff Minister.jpg
- File:Andrew Robathan Minister.jpg
- File:Gerald Howarth Minister.jpg
- File:Nick Harvey Minister.jpg
- File:Philip Hammond Minister.jpg
Thanks. 2 lines of K303 16:17, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- I'll look into it later this evening. Feel free to mark for deletion as "uploaded by banned user", if that's what it is (I wasn't familiar with the sock case). Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:45, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. I wasn't aware G5 applied to images, which is why I'm only going after the images with licencing problems. The sock case can be found at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Marquis de la Eirron/Archive#18 April 2012. 2 lines of K303 16:56, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
File:Starlight Spectacular at Canada's Wonderland 4.jpg
I have posted a response to the proposed deletion of the article here.--Dom497 (talk) 21:01, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
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File source problem with File:FSA sniper in Homs school.jpg
I did say who the source was. I clearly put Rebel propaganda image. The image was made by opposition/rebel activists and uploaded for dissemination for propaganda purposes. I don't understand what the problem is. If you still think that's not enough than I'll just get an image grab from one of their low-resolution videos from youtube which I think will be more in line with Wiki policy, but again I think that all the bases have been covered here. EkoGraf (talk) 18:48, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Samofi
Hello Future Perfect at Sunrise,
I do not want to badger you, but there is an ongoing problem with Samofi. As you might be aware of it, he does not adhere to his topic-ban you are placed under. If you do not want to enforce it, then it is an advice and not an ArbCom resolution that has no compulsory power. However, I do not think that Samofi is apt to be taken to AE, I might report him for a topic-ban violation, but, it won't solve anything. Perhaps, he could get a block for a duration of one week, and then he will refrain from editing the moot articles, he is topic-banned from until 2-3 days at best. It is true that Sammofi has a POV, however, my main problem with this user is that the way in which he conducts himself permanently does not indicate any consistency or logic. I do not know how to call his behaviour so that it lest fall under WP:NPA, therefore; I would call it confused.
It is just a thing that this user does not want to adhere to his topic-ban, but that he made two attempts at block-shopping aimed at two Hungarian users including me, yesterday, it just goes beyond all reason that I should yet tolerate. Not to mention that his reports abundantly cover his topic-ban in any possible sense...
- Given that once already Samofi was blocked for a duration of indefinite from which he got a second chance to return . Well, actually, indef seems reasonable again. I do not know what your opinion is about it. Please let me know:
- you are willing to consider conducting an indef-block
- you do not want to conduct it ,but have no objection to the motion being proposed at WP:AN
- you oppose it.