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your RfA guidelines

I was looking at your userpage and saw your RfA guidelines and I thought they were quite high. I was quite surprised at "...at least 10 Non-Administrative Closures." I kinda thought that the rest doesn't support any would-be that just wants to focus on one area, which is still a help. I'm curious. Why is your bar where it is? Mysterytrey talk 21:16, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

You're right, they are quite high, but I meet all of them myself. I'll remove it, though. Electric Catfish 22:40, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Do you still require them (the certain areas:50 AIV reports;AFDs; also 10 articles isn't much but if someone is only interesed in 1 thing then...). It really is kinda limiting to only those that edit widespread and diversified. So, why did you have them? (I'm being openminded here.) Also, since you brought up you meeting all of them, any chance of a WP:RfA/Electriccatfish2? I'd support. Mysterytrey talk 23:28, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi! No, I don't require them and I don't have the time to check for each one, although 5,000 edits and 8 months was always my standard. Also, yes, I am having my RFA in January and people have all sorts of checklists that are much more stringent than mine. I personally mainly do anti-vandalism and new page patrolling work, although I do contribute to AFDs and content creation. Best, Electric Catfish 00:39, 24 July 2012 (UTC).

Couldn't help but comment: Great to know about your planned RfA. I for one would definitely support :) Anir1uph | talk | contrib 13:54, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Be sure to have read WP:Advice for RfA candidates first ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 19:08, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I find the advice there very helpful. Best, Electric Catfish 19:10, 1 August 2012 (UTC).

Talkback

Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 12:17, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

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Did you know?

I just changed a redirect into an article, Yadkin-Pee Dee river basin, and there was one fact that I thought might be interesting and I finally sourced it (the other articles that mention it don't source it but I will fix that tomorrow). "Pilot Mountain was original inspiration for "Mount Pilot" in the 1960s television show The Andy Griffith Show" Since Andy Griffith died recently, and I just recreated the article today, I thought I would mention it to someone familiar with DYK to see if it was worth considering. I've only had one DYK before, back in 08, for Pigs in the City. Drop me a note if you have the time and let me know if you think this is interesting enough. Thanks! Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 01:22, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

It seems interesting to me, but I don't have any experience in DYK's. Electric Catfish 11:28, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) DYK check gives it as 8 characters under the limit, but other than that, you should go for it. It would make a nice break from all the olympic hooks we have at the moment.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 11:35, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I picked your name up as a contact on the front page of WP:DYK as being "actively involved". And thanks Gilderien, I was intending to add some on the geography section today as well. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 11:39, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome, and I should probably add myself to that list, thanks for reminding me. You could nom it now and add more while it is nominated, so it is reviewed faster.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 11:53, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I've reviewed a few submissions, but I don't have any of my own :(. Electric Catfish 12:13, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Next time you create a new article, drop me a line, and I'll be happy to collaborate getting it up to DYK.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 12:17, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I have added more, cleaned up the disambigs, no red links, added a nice image of Pilot Mnt. I would love it if someone else nom'ed it for DYK, I think the fact is rather interesting myself, as most people aren't aware that that many of the cities and towns in the TV show were based on real towns in this area "Mayberry" = Mount Airy, North Carolina (fun small town to visit, I bring visiting relatives there), Greensboro, North Carolina, etc. I've lived here 20 years now, it is an interesting place, culturally. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 16:12, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

The purely Pilot Mountain fact might be a little tangential...what about.."...that several features within the Yadkin-Pee Dee River Basin were used as inspiration for locations in the 1960s sitcom The Andy Griffith Show?"--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 16:43, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm making some more edits to it, and, if you like the hook, will nom it later.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 16:58, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I'll help out, too! Electric Catfish 20:41, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Like I said on my page, I'm easy. I moved to this area 20 years ago, and there are only a couple people working on articles here (out of more than a few million residents, sadly). I might have to work on some other geology related articles next. I stay so busy with other projects, I don't get to edit as much as I would like. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 22:41, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Smile!

Thanks for the work you do! :) Acalamari 22:04, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Electric Catfish 22:34, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

race/origin

You reverted at A Prophet on this issue. What's your thinking? (I'll watch here for your reply.) --Ring Cinema (talk) 22:10, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Please provide a link to the diff. I probably reverted it because it was unsourced. Electric Catfish 22:31, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

No, it was in the plot summary for A Prophet. --Ring Cinema (talk) 22:56, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

It doesn't really make much of a difference either way, but I've reverted it back to origin. Best, Electric Catfish 22:58, 26 July 2012 (UTC).

Jamal Woon

I wanted to notify you that I have added a reason to the proposed deletion tag you added to the article. I assume you intended to add the tag questioning the subject's notability. Cheers! SwisterTwister talk 01:36, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I was more concerned with changing the CSD tags to a PROD tag. Electric Catfish 11:19, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

ItsZippy 17:07, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Stone Key Partners

You just rejected my article after another editor reviewed it, seemingly approved it and asked me to resubmit. See notes below from Txcrossbow. Hello, James. I will take a look at it this weekend and run the references, etc. I admire your tenacity! After I review the article again, I will let you know so that you can either re-submit or make changes. Txcrossbow (talk) 15:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC) Please re-submit. Be patient on the review as there is a heavy backlog right now. Txcrossbow (talk) 06:14, 21 July 2012 (UTC) I will repeat the name note that I left for Stella...IF YOU HAVE GUIDELINES AND RULES, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO FOLLOW THEM. I'm wondering how I can remedy the following issue and get my first article published. Thank you very much for your help! "What you can do: Add citations (see Misplaced Pages:Referencing for beginners) to secondary reliable sources that are entirely independent of the subject."

I've added two links to the New York Times (both of which are articles where the company is the subject of the article) plus links to Bloomberg and four links to Reuters. These are all very reliable, national, secondary sources and entirely independent from the subject. This bank is the largest Aerospace and Defense boutique investment bank in the world and is certainly notable to a lot of people. Based on the criteria here (http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:CORP), I provide the following arguments for notability.

1. Depth of Coverage- The New York Times, Wall St. Journal, Bloomberg, Reuters, the Washington Post and numerous others certainly feel that the company is notable. They have written significant articles on the company recently both on-line and in print publications. 2. Audience - these publications are national publications. 3. Interdependence of Sources- none of the cited sources (exception press release) have any relation to the company. Thank you very much for your time. http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Stone_Key_Partners — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesr1978 (talk • contribs) 19:19, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

This is James again- you asked me to resubmit, which I did. Then someone else reviewed and declined. This is sort of getting ridiculous. Do I get a new reviewer ever time? How is that possibly helpful / efficient? Do I just resubmit until I find someone that agrees that an organization that is the topic of articles in the NY Times, Wall St Journal, Reuters, Bloomberg, etc. is notable. This seems arbitrary and illogical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesr1978 (talk • contribs) 18:32, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi! First of all, the article seems good now. Please re-submit it and than ping me and than I will accept it. Also, it depends. You will usually, but not always get a different reviewer. There are about 100 or so of us, and we are all experienced Misplaced Pages editors. Electric Catfish 20:03, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello Electric Catfish. Thank you for your help! I do not see the button to resubmit the article like I did the first two times. Please let me know how to go about re-submitting when it has been put into the declined category. Sincerely - James Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesr1978 (talk • contribs) 13:50, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Its James again. Just seeing how to keep moving forward here. Thank you EC!

NEVERMIND. Just saw the article. Thank you so much!!!!!

You've got a message!

Come on IRC if you've got time. Chip 20:00, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Barbara Eve Harris and other articles

What is going on with all of these category additions and reverts? I am not following... Thanks Jim1138 (talk) 20:41, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't know. I had to revert a lot of BLP-CAT vios today. Electric Catfish 20:43, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

158.255.7.244

Hi. I declined to block this person for spamming. Normally we required the person to have received and ignored 4 or 5 warnings before we block. Obviously if they've used other accounts, then we count those warnings to.

Personally, as an admin who's done a lot of spam cleanup in the past, I prefer to not block spammers -- it's easier to track their behavior and spam domains if you don't force them to move to a new sockpuppet account. I find that blacklisting their domains is much more effective. (Note that we also give them multiple warnings before blacklisting). Blacklisting is potentially devastating to their domain since there are indications the search engines sometimes look at our blacklist when deciding whether to blacklist them in search engine results.

I encourage you to check out Wikiproject Spam and report spammers and their domains to the project's talk page using the templates there.

I also recommend you warn spammers on their talk pages and use the special domain-tracking templates Wikiproject Spam uses -- it helps tracking. See what I've done on the editor's talk page.

Most importantly -- thanks so much for looking out for spam! I hope you'll keep at it.

Regards, --A. B. 00:12, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

I also declined to block the unrelated IP 83.149.8.164 -- same reasons. --A. B. 00:19, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi! I've reported about 25 spammers. They all trip filters and apparently, spambots don't need to be warned. They usually also end up being open proxies. I deal more with anti-vandalism than spam, but if I see it, I'll report it. Best, Electric Catfish 11:53, 30 July 2012 (UTC).

Welcome to the Teahouse!

Hi KeilanaElectriccatfish! Thank you for signing up to be a future host at the Teahouse. Well, great news - the future is here: we'd love you to be a Teahouse host! Teahouse hosts do more than just answer questions. A few things we'd love to see you do as a Teahouse host:

• First, declare your Hostness! Add yourself to the Host page! This page is where new editors and your fellow hosts can learn about you and get in touch with you easily if needed. By signing up here you declare that you know how to serve up a great cup of tea. Add yourself here.

• Invite new users with our invite guide. Please invite new users to the Teahouse! At that guide you'll find some tips on how to invite. It's super important; we have plenty of Wikipedians answering questions, but not enough asking the questions!

• Visit the tips page. The tips page provides you some basic tips on how to engage with visitors at the Teahouse. We have a special way of doing things - unlike other areas of Misplaced Pages! (Such as greeting new editors with a simple "Hi!" and being as easy to understand and friendly as possible.)

• Join the conversation by participating on the host lounge talk pages. We also have an IRC channel now for hosts to get to know one another, develop your skills, and eventually the channel will serve as an additional help space for new editors!

• To visit the IRC channel: #wikipedia-teahouse (Feel free to ask me for help if you're having trouble connecting!)

• Participate in developing the Teahouse further by getting involved in phase two. Learn more here.

I'm so happy that you volunteered to lend a hand at the Teahouse. I look forward to following your contributions and invitations, and your assistance in making the Teahouse a great and warm place for new Wikipedians. See you there :) SarahStierch (talk) 20:57, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm not Keilana :)! Electric Catfish 21:03, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Haha. I just saw this. xD Keilana| 21:24, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

I decided to sign up after I saw the message on your talk! Electric Catfish 21:25, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

COPY AND PASTE FAIL ;) Truth is out! Sorry :) Hey..I'd rather accidentally be called Keilana than some other Wikipedias }:) SarahStierch (talk) 17:28, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

203.15.172.2

Now blocked. Thanks for reporting this IP. --A. B. 01:06, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! Electric Catfish 01:18, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

NPP backlog

Would you be willing to help me with this NPP backlog? A month ago, there was a large amount of new articles and I couldn't review all of them. Articles older than a month won't appear and I've been targeting unreviewed articles and users who haven't been welcomed yet. If you can at least help me get to a week ahead, I'd appreciate it. I'm going away for vacation in two weeks and I would like to have a week or two of NPP taken care of. If you need secondary help with an article, feel free to contact me. SwisterTwister talk 06:38, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Sure! I'd love to! Electric Catfish 11:22, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

The archive box

Do you know that the archive box on your talk page shows The ClueBot Commons talk archive rather than your own talk archive? -- Mrmatiko (talk) 09:02, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I see you've changed it for me. Thanks! Electric Catfish 11:21, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I didn't. It seems to have just fixed itself possibly with this edit, very strange. -- Mrmatiko (talk) 16:25, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

SarahStierch (talk) 17:01, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Reader feedback

What do you add to an article in order to be able to get reader feedback such as this? AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 20:36, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi! I add it to the articles I create. Just add Category:Article Feedback 5 (with 2 brackets on each side). Best, Electric Catfish 20:42, 31 July 2012 (UTC).

Okay, thank you. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 20:44, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm, I have noticed several times, most recently at Greg Gibson, that the Article Feedback box is there even though it does not appear to have been added. Why is this? AutomaticStrikeout 22:16, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I have asked at the Teahouse. AutomaticStrikeout 22:56, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

RE: ==

I would like to thank you for clearing up how what should be the criteria for speedy deletion pages. I would like to ask if there is a template for candidates for deletion. ZSpeed (talk) 20:54, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry! I actually changed it to a PROD, or proposed deletion. I would recommend installing Twinkle (that's what I use), but the list of templates is at Misplaced Pages:Template messages/Deletion. If you have any more questions about new page patrolling, feel free to ask me, or ask them at the Teahouse. Best, Electric Catfish 20:57, 31 July 2012 (UTC).

I would like to thank you for all the help you are giving me. ZSpeed (talk) 21:00, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

My pleasure! Feel free to ask any more questions if you have them! Electric Catfish 21:02, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Yunshui 雲‍水 06:54, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

I am back!

Hey, I am just travelling back from holiday (why I'm using dodgy ferry IP) can we continue from where we left off? Thanks Thєíríshwαrdєn - írísh αnd prσud 07:42, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Editorial help

Hey Electric Catfish,

You recently responded to my post over at the teahouse about an AfC article I'm working on (http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Brandon_Steiner). Would love to get your help whenever you get the chance! Thanks so much!

Golombjesse (talk) 16:43, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Sure! Electric Catfish 18:36, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

hi. you intended to restore stigmatized knowledge? it still is not redirecting. merp. skakEL 19:27, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

It is on my computer. Electric Catfish 19:28, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Worthmore jewelers

I'm concerned with your edit here, the article was obvious advertising and you added a proposed deletion tag rather than a G11 tag. SwisterTwister talk 20:02, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

You're right. I should've CSD'ed it. It seemed spammy, but when in doubt, I PROD it. Electric Catfish 20:07, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Jamison

I hope you don't mind, but I have removed your inactive student as he hasn't been around in nearly a month. Dan653 (talk) 21:05, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I was AGF because he told me a few weeks ago that he lost his internet connection. Best, Electric Catfish 21:54, 1 August 2012 (UTC).

Looks good

The Lollo article looks good. Like I said, there really isn't much to work with. AutomaticStrikeout 01:26, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Images and copyright

Hey! I see that my question has become very popular, as other users have asked it either :) Well i learned about the creative commons copyrights not much time ago: Images must allow commercial use and derivative works to be eligible for Commons. So licenses lyke cc-by-2.0 and cc-by-nc-2.0 are not free enough to be uploaded, as De728631 wrote on his answer (which is completely right). I would refer you to this: Commons:Licensing for more info about the copyright of media. —Hahc21 02:07, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

It's an interesting question Hahc. I've asked it on my adoption course for a year or so, and I think I've had a total of 2 (out of about 30) people get it right. It's a mean mean question (which is great for an RfA). Catfish, you may want to have a look at User:Worm That Turned/Adopt/Copyright which helps a bit on copyright in general. Worm(talk) 08:09, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

What's the question? Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 12:19, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

The first one here or the third one here Worm(talk) 12:24, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks guys! Electric Catfish 22:52, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Brilliant Idea Barnstar
	Thanks for pointing that out at WP:PERM/RW. Anderson - what's up? 22:27, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Electric Catfish 22:53, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Retired

Catfish, you are very much needed here, Your Enormous contributions are well appreciated. The thread at ANI is discussing the prevalence of such incidents in general. Please do not get offended, some editors were concerned about it, hence the discussion, Hope you will reconsider your decision. regards --DBigXray 12:25, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Dude: toughen up. The world is a rough place, and so is this wiki. Stick to your guns when you feel you're right: don't run away from the situation. Doc talk 12:41, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

The thing you should have done is to accept the (rather constructive) criticism by the other editors and use that to make the necessary adjustments and improve. Sometimes, the best way to improve yourself is by making mistakes. --MuZemike 13:13, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Guys, thanks. You guys have all been here for much longer than I have. However, Misplaced Pages is was my hobby. I had only good intentions and I feel as if the ANI report is smashing all of the work I've done here to pieces. Electric Catfish 13:24, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

You feel that way, sure. But I understand (see below) that it should not have happened there to start with. Your work stays even if you leave. Please consider to stay also. - I was close to leaving a year ago, I know the feeling. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I really appreciate it. Yes, I'll return in a few months when this all gets cleared up. Best, Electric Catfish 13:33, 3 August 2012 (UTC).

A few months? Will it really take you that long to get over it? It's cleared up. Get on with what you were doing before this. That's a non-admin order! Doc talk 13:37, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm very upset that other editors perceived my good-faith actions as "malicious". Also, there's no policy that says that non-admins can't do what I'm doing. I think that an RFC on this issue would be great. Best, Electric Catfish 13:40, 3 August 2012 (UTC).

No one in that thread used the word "malicious". You are overreacting by retiring for a few months, but you seem to have already decided what your plan is. Good luck. Doc talk 13:45, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Hey, Electriccatfish2. I am very sorry that you have put up a "retired" banner over this affair. Please accept my apologies if any of my remarks were too harsh. -- Dianna (talk) 15:27, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Allow me to add myself to the chorus of editors wishing for your return. Someguy1221 (talk) 01:47, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Same here, Electriccatfish2, you don't need to leave over an AN/I report. The best thing to do, as I'm sure others will agree, is to use it as a learning experience to make yourself a better editor. Acalamari 17:01, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Just to let you know that (1) I appreciated your message re Savannah Metro Police Dept., and hopefully we can develop an article on the lines of the excellent Charleston, West Virginia Police article, and (2) I hope you agree to stay with WP; Misplaced Pages can be frustrating -- petty insults, admin honchos strutting their stuff, etc. -- but that's to be expected in a big, bureaucratic monster like WP. Hope you will stay for a while.Mason.Jones (talk) 18:04, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Don't let it bug you.

Don't let an overblown report at ANI, that should have been handled elsewhere, drive you away. Seriously. It can be maddening, but just take a day off and try to overlook it if you can. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 13:03, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Indeed. Avoid the drama, just produce content. PumpkinSky talk 21:00, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	For your enormous contribution with Anti-Vandalism and WP:CVUA. You are doing a great job here , and we are proud of you. DBigXray 12:22, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

WHAT?

Retired? --Morning277 (talk) 13:40, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Long story. Electric Catfish 13:41, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

My email is enabled and I love to listen. --Morning277 (talk) 12:38, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Mentoring

After a bit of a chat by email, I'm under the impression that Catfish won't be gone for ever, and he's agreed to mentoring when he gets back. If anyone wants to chat with me over the matter, you know where to find me. Worm(talk) 14:23, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Dave! Electric Catfish 14:27, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Hey Catfish. Just to let you know that I've fired up a mentoring page here. There's also an associated talk page, which we can chat about anything you like here. See you soon! Worm(talk) 11:29, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Dude

Just no. Facts all come with points of view. - Talking Heads, Cross-eyed And Painless. Wait a bit, sure... See how much you miss Misplaced Pages. :) But I fully expect you back! Theopolisme _{TALK 14:28, 3 August 2012 (UTC)}

	The Special Barnstar
	I am glad to hear that you will be back. This is for your excellent all round work on wiki, and helping me when i needed assistance :) Anir1uph | talk | contrib 16:24, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

	The Original Barnstar
	It's a shame that you are leaving, even temporarily. I'll miss seeing you around. Hopefully you'll be back soon. AutomaticStrikeout 17:27, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

	The Special Barnstar
	I'm sorry to see you go. You've been a big help with the CVUA. You will be more then welcome to come back when you want to. Kindly, Anderson - what's up? 22:57, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

	The Resilient Barnstar
	Glad to have you back!!! Dan653 (talk) 22:50, 5 August 2012 (UTC)