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	I see you've been stalking my talk page a bit over the past few days and you haven't received the appreciation you deserve from the people who asked the question. So, I thought I'd offer you a clear sign that I think you're doing a great job and I really appreciate your help. Worm(talk) 09:55, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, very kind of you! Yes, I did notice a certain ungraciousness (and laziness in the first place) re JSTOR! Some people expect others to provide them with all the answers ... I'm reminded of AA's early days. I'll continue to chip in when I feel inspired to do so. And Laura thanked me on her talk page. PamD 10:39, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Articles for deletion

Please do not nominate articles for deletion because they "have been unsourced for over a year" and - even more so - for being "not useful". AfD is not for cleanup, and "usefulness", either pro or con, is an argument to avoid in deletion discussions. Thank you. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 18:58, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

I think I was using unsourcedness as a surrogate for WP:NOTABILITY and those two articles did not appear to me to be notable enough to merit Misplaced Pages articles. Should probably just have quietly redirected them. PamD 19:07, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

For talk page stalkers: we're talking about these versions of 2002 LT38 and 2002 OD20: I PRODded them, and the editor who removed the PROD advised AfD. PamD 19:15, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

No worries. And WP:BOLDly redirecting is always a good option to consider. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:08, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

No footnotes

Whoops! My mistake. Read through quickly and.. in turn.. misread! Regardless, I don't know if the article counts as notable but perhaps more progress will be made on it! Appellative (talk) 00:36, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Ron Rogers

Well if you wanna help I'd welcome it and it does contain refs towards notability he is the United States Pardon Attorney. maybe you didn't take a close enough look? it is also tagged as a stub for now.TucsonDavidU.S.A. 07:34, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm not interested in writing about members of the American legal system, but you should read Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Lead section. A lead section is not optional. I shouldn't have to read the whole article to find out why someone thinks he ought to be included in the encyclopedia. PamD 07:38, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

But in the interests of the usability of the encyclopedia I've added a redirect from the form by which he seems to be known, as you've used above, to the full article title! PamD 07:40, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Great thanks I don't know how to addd a info box can you?TucsonDavidU.S.A. 07:49, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Have a look at Help:Infobox. I guess that the "General office" flavour of {{Infobox officeholder}} is going to be the one to use. PamD 08:22, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Stub tag...

Hi! Thanks for the heads up- it's not a tag I've used much, so I've checked out what you meant, and red faced and slightly wiser, I'll make sure I get it right next time! Benny Digital 07:18, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - August 2012

The Yorkshire WikiProject Newsletter

The WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter Issue 52 - August 2012 July issue Got any suggestions? — Add them here Project News Welcome to the fifty second WikiProject Yorkshire monthly newsletter. Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 9,880 last month to 9,942 on July 25th). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 83 is just ahead of WP:GM who have 72. WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 56 out of a total number of 3,022 articles. Currently we have thirty one Yorkshire featured articles: Henry Moore • Caedmon • George Calvert, 1st Baron Baltimore • History of Sheffield • York City F.C. • Joseph Priestley • Stocksbridge Park Steels F.C. • M62 motorway • Valley Parade • William Wilberforce • History of Bradford City A.F.C. • Last of the Summer Wine • Ealdred (bishop) • Paulinus of York • Wilfrid • Cosmo Gordon Lang • Thomas of Bayeux • Cottingley Fairies • Wilfred Rhodes • Guy Fawkes • Yorkshire captaincy affair of 1927 • Roy Kilner • George Macaulay • Frederick Delius • Battle of Towton • Halifax Gibbet • Gerard (archbishop of York) • George Hirst • Geoffrey (archbishop of York) • Len Hutton • Hedley Verity There are also fourteen featured lists: York City F.C. Clubman of the Year • List of York City F.C. managers • List of York City F.C. players • List of York City F.C. seasons • List of Bradford City A.F.C. seasons • List of York City F.C. records and statistics • List of Leeds United A.F.C. seasons • List of Scarborough F.C. seasons • List of awards and nominations received by Arctic Monkeys • List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Cleveland • List of Hull City A.F.C. seasons • List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in Northern England • Sheffield United F.C. league record by opponent • York City F.C. league record by opponent Thank you and well done to all those who contributed. Article Activity Sheffield United F.C. league record by opponent nominated for FL on June 28th Gisborough Priory promoted to GA on June 28th Swarcliffe not promoted to GA on June 29th 1889–90 Sheffield United F.C. season promoted to GA on June 30th Sheffield United F.C. league record by opponent DYK entry on July 2nd One Direction promoted to GA on July 5th 2011–12 Sheffield United F.C. season nominated for GA on July 7th Sheffield United F.C. league record by opponent promoted to FL on July 19th York City F.C. league record by opponent promoted to FL on July 19th 2011–12 Sheffield United F.C. season withdrawn on July 21st Bosa of York nominated for GA on July 24th Member News There are 101 members of WikiProject Yorkshire! Membership has remained the same since the July newsletter: The number of active members is still currently low. Thanks A very big Thank you to all the editors who labour away quietly and help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed. To members who have added suggestions to the ToDo list at Yorkshire Portal. To the football and rugby editors who have done stirling work in keeping abreast of the top clubs. To all the WikiProkject Yorkshire editors who have been busy on vandal patrol at watchlist.  Great! Yorkshire articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA Other ??? Total FA 2 1 15 60 78 FL 1 16 17 GA 2 7 36 179 224 B 9 67 137 372 585 C 5 144 304 1,519 1,972 Start 1 243 1,259 8,706 1 10,210 Stub 21 352 5,658 3 6,034 List 4 12 984 1,000 Category 3,920 1 3,921 Disambig 21 21 File 22 22 Portal 95 95 Project 228 228 Redirect 2 197 1,362 1,561 Template 623 623 NA 1 1 Other 8 8 Assessed 19 487 2,118 17,691 6,283 1 1 26,600 Total 19 487 2,118 17,691 6,283 1 1 26,600 WikiWork factors (?) ω = 97,327 Ω = 5.10 Assessment Assess and review As of 28 July 2012, we have assessed 100% of all articles with a project banner. (Some new and additional article talk pages may still require a banner however)  Thanks Aims After discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Yorkshire in April 2008. Specific aims for the project are:- To complete tagging and assessment of all Yorkshire related articles (See below) To recruit more active editors (See Member News) To bring our top level article Yorkshire up to Featured article status To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below) To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised. Priority Articles The top priority articles that have been identified to date are as follows - Bradford • East Riding of Yorkshire • Henry Moore • Kingston upon Hull • Leeds • North Yorkshire • Ripon • Sheffield • South Yorkshire • Wakefield • West Yorkshire • William Wilberforce • York • Yorkshire • Yorkshire and the Humber The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first. Sporting feast Just in case it has escaped members notice but August is a big sporting month with the 2012 Olympic Games taking place at the start of the month and the 2012–13 Football season getting under way from the middle of the month. There are likely to be lots of articles that will need changing as we go through the month with new signings, new records etc. so keep an eye on sport related articles and try and keep them up to date. I have picked a pair of sport related items for this month's collaboration from the suggestions on the project talk page. So those of you with a sporting slant should have plenty to get going with this month. WikiProject Yorkshire Collaboration of the Month Project The August 2012 articles selected below are suggestions from the project talk page. Month Dates Article(s) B class choice Start class choice XXIX 1 May 2012 ~ 31 May 2012 Yarm Victoria Theatre (Halifax) XXX 1 Jun 2012 ~ 30 Jun 2012 Doncaster Central (UK Parliament constituency) Bradford Dudley Hill XXXI 1 Jul 2012 ~ 31 Jul 2012 Battle of the Standard Elliot Morley XXXII 1 Aug 2012 ~ 31 Aug 2012 Yorkshire County Cricket Club Football in Yorkshire Please nominate future articles for improvement at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Yorkshire. Please bear in mind... The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. 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The Mystery of Third Floor (Film)

Hi, I noticed you nominated that one for WP:PROD, but would it qualify for WP:SPEEDY (A7)? Unreferenced, non-notable, COI... seems to fit the profile, doesn't it? Or is that being too WP:BITE-y? Just wondered what you thought about that. Thanks. --Drm310 (talk) 15:46, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately, A7 only applies to " (individuals, animals, organizations, web content)", so a film doesn't qualify. Yes, it feels like a speedy. I suppose the alternative would be to go sraight to AfD, where someone might close it as a "Snow delete"! PamD 15:50, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

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Lumi River

The reason that I placed the disambiguation page at Lumi River (disambiguation) is because (1) since River Lumi needs to be redirected to the disambiguation page, and the practice is to have that receiving page be expressly maked with "(disambiguation)" as well as having the redirect tagged with the R to disambiguation page template and (2) since the Rio Lumia is also known as the Lumi River, although it does not yet have an article. So, I was attempting to follow standard practice. Question, would it be proper to combine the disambiguation pages for Lumi River and Lumia River? One of the Lumias is aka Lumi but the other one is not, to the best of my knowledge. --Bejnar (talk) 16:44, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Standard practice is that if there is no "Primary usage" for the name (in this case "Lumi River"), then the disambiguation page goes at that name and there is no need to create a page with "(disambiguation)". There is no reason not to have a redirect from River Lumi to a disambiguation page at Lumi River, as long as the redirect is labelled "Redirect to disambiguation page", as it is. If one or more of the Lumia rivers is mentioned in an article, where it also states that it is known as the Lumi River, then it can be added to the dab page. If there are several Lumia Rivers, then make a dab page for them - one article can be listed on two different dab pages if the subject is known by two different names. I hope that clarifies things for you a little. PamD 16:55, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

What about this usage note for the R to disambiguation page template: This is a redirect to a disambiguation page. This redirect is intended for use in links from other articles that need to refer to the disambiguation page, rather than be disambiguated. Therefore, this template generally should only appear on pages that have "(disambiguation)" in the title.? --Bejnar (talk) 17:12, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

You're right, Template:R_to_disambiguation_page says the template should be used if and only if the redirect has "(disambiguation)" in its title - I've removed it. The template is needed so that anyone looking at "What links to" a disambiguation page can see that some links, via that redirect, are intentional (usually from hatnotes, dab page "see also" sections, etc). Simple redirects to a dab page are no problem, and plenty of dab pages have a lot of redirects pointing to them when there are possibly slight variations covered in the one dab page. I think it's all OK now. PamD 18:09, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand. Won't people and robots still see River Lumi pointing to a disambiguation page and not be able to tell that it has been properly vetted? I thought that the purpose of the tag and the form was so that a robot could easily distinguish intentional redirects to disambiguation pages from those that were not so intentional. --Bejnar (talk) 20:22, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

There is no problem having the redirect River Lumi pointing to the dab page, as it will help people searching, but it should be an orphan! Any link on a page which uses that redirect is a cause for concern, as it is linking to a dab page. So if someone, or a bot, looks at "What links here" and finds a lot of redirects, that's fine; if they find links in pages which go via those redirects, then those are links to the dab page which need to be fixed, exactly like direct links to the dab page - so a link in a page to "River Lumi" or "Lumi River" is equivalent, and in each case needs to be disambiguated. PamD 22:05, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

So what is the purpose (proper function) of the Template:R_to_disambiguation_page? --Bejnar (talk)

I think that it identifies those redirects from "Foo (disambiguation)" to a dab page at "Foo" which have been created so that they can be linked to in hatnotes or dab page "See also" sections, so that when someone looks at "What links here" for that dab page it is clear that these links have been deliberately made, knowing that they point to the dab page, rather than being made by careless editors. If this still isn't clear, please ask at the template's talk page, as I don't think I can make it any clearer. PamD 22:39, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)It also (or did) populate respective categories that are useful for research, especially when citing precedent as in, for example, the case of the accepted treatment for nn schools. See: {{R from school}}. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:50, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

for chiming in here. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:38, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

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Re: The New Kid

Re your message: If that editor keeps posting articles for stuff he has made up or non-notable videos, they will likely be blocked. There really is not a de-userfication process except for MfD. Although sometimes after an editor is blocked, their user space articles will be deleted depending upon the content. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:46, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

aloveofthelakes

Hi - the link to my web site (www.aloveofthelakes.co.uk) does contain lots of factual information about the fell regions and individual Wainwright fells. I did not think that this would contravene any rules — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robmarsh3 (talk • contribs) 14:52, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Replied at User_talk:Robmarsh3. PamD 15:27, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Enjoy your leave - come back soon :)

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