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Good job!
Hi Niemti,
I was most impressed by this. Excellent work. Thanks, and happy editing. --Soetermans. T / C 12:41, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. --Niemti (talk) 12:56, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
GAN for Mortal Kombat
I just did the review for the first, saw your post and will wait on the second one till you do your rewriting. Just ping me when ready, I'll come back to them each day to double check though. I know GAN is a nasty process of waiting and a random draw of which reviewer you get. Do not despair though, Tomcat7 may be rude to me, but I think my notes on Mortal Kombat are fair and its really only a few mirrorings and a couple of broken refs to fix. I'm not the most experienced GAN reviewer, but I certainly do check things through. Mortal Kombat was a game I played, didn't really like much, but I still enjoy the history of such games and you presented it quite well. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 15:57, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Splitting content
Hi. I noticed you split content from Mortal Kombat II into another article, Home versions of Mortal Kombat II. I support this change and it definitely improves the article, but in the future please remember to write in an edit summary that the content was copied from the original article. This is necessary because the license Misplaced Pages uses require a trail of authors. Something as simple as "Split from Mortal Kombat II at 21:25 Dec. 12, 2012; see that page for a list of authors" would suffice. I have added a null edit to the history of the page for this one, but if you need to copy text to another page in the future such as spinning off another section, please remember to add a short edit summary indicating where the text came from. Thank you. --Odie5533 (talk) 22:54, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
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GAN #2
It is on hold pending fixes, it has some issues, but nothing insurmountable. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 00:26, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
- Just caught a vandal on Mortal Kombat. They should know better to do that when I am watching. ^-^ Oh! And I'll take a look at Mortal Kombat 2 later today and see if it passes after you make your changes.ChrisGualtieri (talk) 16:25, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
And I in the meanwhile prepared Jacob's Ladder (film) :P --Niemti (talk) 16:44, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
DOA 5
Looking at DOA 5's GAN and seeing it not having much discussion, the review may have to end as a fail. Would it be alright it I close it. I mean you can take the article to WP:GAR if you are not satisfied by the results. GamerPro64 16:34, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
What "discussion", now? Like, between me and who, exactly? If you want to pick it up, do. --Niemti (talk) 16:44, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- I can pick it up. I just passed Mortal Kombat 2 after you did all those changes, a few minor typos and you added a bit of OR in your re-write which I removed. Otherwise, you have done a great job addressing the issues and improved it quite a bit. I could take a shot at that other one. I'll have more time in the next few days to do articles, this week was a wash sadly. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 04:14, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
- "OR" was from the book. Sure, go on. --Niemti (talk) 12:03, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
- If it was in the book, just mention it in the article, it will count that way and it won't be tagged as OR then. It can be replaced, sorry for calling it WP:OR. Now, I did a detailed review to address quite a few issues. Its going to need a lot of work. Once you tighten the matter up, I'll re-run through the rest of the issues that remain and go from there. Most of the issues could be handled with a rewrite of much of the prose and a few general comments I made. You got a few deadlinks, but the problem is the prose. It is really the killer right now of the article. It reads like GameInformer and that's a problem. Just check out the GA page for more.ChrisGualtieri (talk) 05:43, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
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A cupcake for you!
I hope you're not taking this conversation as something too personal? These debates get heated some times, but that should never make someone angry. Cheers! Diego (talk) 14:39, 21 December 2012 (UTC) |
I'm not angry, and thanks. --Niemti (talk) 15:05, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
- Relatedly, let me know if you want to continue the conversation about how the game Galatea is non-notable and non-influential in your view. I'd be glad to try to dispel this notion for you. We can discuss it either here or at my talk page if you wish. Or not at all if you're tired of the topic. -Thibbs (talk) 16:48, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
- Note - This is about the game, of course. I agree with your assessment that the character, Galatea, is pretty much non-notable according to Misplaced Pages's meaning. -Thibbs (talk) 16:50, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Season's tidings!
To you and yours, Have a Merry ______ (fill in the blank) and Happy New Year! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 14:26, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Same to you! --Niemti (talk) 21:35, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Please make edit comments
What was the reason for reverting this edit? Even if you had good reasons, please state them in the edit comment. thanks and merry xmas Shaddim (talk) 21:54, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
UFO: Enemy Unknown =/= X-COM. SO OBVIOUSLY. --Niemti (talk) 21:56, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
- ohm, you are wrong. Thats exactly the german wikipedia page which covers UFO: Enemy unknown. So I can assume you havn't even checked the link, that's disappointing :/. cheers Shaddim (talk) 21:58, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
THE GERMAN ARTICLE COVERS X-COM, JESUS CHRIST. --Niemti (talk) 22:00, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, you are still mixing it up. de:XCOM: Enemy Unknown covers the 2012 fireaxis game , de:XCOM the old 1994 one (and the rest of series). cheers Shaddim (talk) 22:04, 22 December 2012 (UTC) PS: Ah, now I get you. The page de:XCOM page covers the series AND the individual game. cheers Shaddim (talk) 22:05, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
THE X-COM ARTICLES ARE ABOUT THE SERIES. All of them, in all languages. And the game named XCOM isn't "the old 1994 one", it's "the new 2013 one" (that's besides "de:XCOM" simply not existing, too). Jesus. Christ. --Niemti (talk) 22:14, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
- Not in german WP, there is for the 1994 XCOM/UFO: Enemy Unknown game and the complete series (beside the 2012 fireaxis game) only the de:X-COM page. Shaddim (talk) 22:23, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Cool. Now go and make more articles, then come back and link them when they exist. Oh, and don't make any more false links. --Niemti (talk) 22:42, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you are talking about: while I made a typo in this discussion (XCOM instead of X-COM), I don't made a typo in the original edit. de:X-COM was and is linking to the correct page in deWP (I don'r follow your "wrong page argumentation"). whatever, no good reason to dispute about, so near to christmas ;) cheers Shaddim (talk) 23:06, 22 December 2012 (UTC) PS: please, do comments on edits, every time you don't, a kitten dies.
Congo
Can you comment on this? Talk:2012 East D.R. Congo conflict#Title -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 15:07, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
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Mortal Kombat Article
Hello friend, I have seen you deleted the image that I put in the MK article, but hey you are the expert and I'm the rookie, what kind of image could wear?. Hugs and Happy New Year.--TheJoker Was Here! 01:39, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Controversy? Replaced it with my own. --Niemti (talk) 01:44, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- Well i don't understand your last commentary, but hey, do you think of this picture, we can put it in Article?.--TheJoker Was Here! 01:51, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry i don't specifiy wich image, is the last.--TheJoker Was Here! 01:53, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- 'Controversy' = Controversy of Mortal Kombat. And no, least because it's already used in 4 articles. --Niemti (talk) 01:56, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- Well and the other images that I showed you?.--TheJoker Was Here! 02:31, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- You mean, the logo of the series? No, it's only good fot the series' article. --Niemti (talk) 02:39, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- No There is footage of battles and are somewhat sadistic.--TheJoker Was Here! 03:00, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- I seriously can't understand you. Start from beginning and explain everything. --Niemti (talk) 03:01, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- No There is footage of battles and are somewhat sadistic.--TheJoker Was Here! 03:00, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- Well I want to make the article Controversy of Mortal Kombat a GA and I need pictures for the article but yo erase the image if i put, so i question you which of these two images i could put.--TheJoker Was Here! 03:51, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- None. Also it's far from GA. --Niemti (talk) 03:54, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- Well I want to make the article Controversy of Mortal Kombat a GA and I need pictures for the article but yo erase the image if i put, so i question you which of these two images i could put.--TheJoker Was Here! 03:51, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
I know, but with a little hard work can do GA, oh and i put th Fatality image on the introduction.--TheJoker Was Here! 04:11, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
IP hopping vandal
Thanks for bringing this incident to ANI. It happened again, so I've had Devil May Cry 4 semi-protected for a week, although was declined on the other two articles. If you notice the behavior in other articles and don't want to escalate yourself, feel free to let me know. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 21:04, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
Kasumi (DOAD AUS New classification)
Hello! I noticed you changed the quote for the new(er) M classification of DOAD here. I know your edit highlights the change more, but I still feel it is best to use the exact quote from the ACB's website. (Second reference after the quote) (However, I'm not sure that's what exactly appears on the box...) What do you think? Thanks, DarkToonLink (talk) 00:04, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Because it's irrevelant. Actually all of the new rating is irrevelant for the subject (Kasumi), because the whole "chil porn" idiocy was quietly dropped and the only change was from "mild violence" to "violence". --Niemti (talk) 01:27, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
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For your efforts to bring Kony 2012 to Good Article status. Keep up the good work! Khazar2 (talk) 14:49, 5 January 2013 (UTC) |
Thanks! --Niemti (talk) 00:55, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
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Oddworld
Niemti,
Our difference of opinion as to whether this article should be split not withstanding, you have deleted a large amount of the above article with the edit summary "(Undid revision 531476673 by Op47 (talk))". I did not add the material that you have deleted, so the edit summary is incorrect. I am sure this is not what you intended, would you have another look please. Also, in future would you discuss articles on their talk page not mine. That way, anyone can see what is going on and can have a chance to join the discussion. Op47 (talk) 21:17, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
I see, you were making the split. You were warned above about this earlier on your talk page, when you make splits or copy content then you must attribute the copy correctly. Now can you please review Template:Copied and add the templates to this article and the article you have created as appropriate. Op47 (talk) 12:47, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Yay!
We did it! :D I have to say, it was a lot of fun when we first worked on building up the Kony 2012 article way back when. Though you should have let me know about the GA nom beforehand, I could have jumped in to help sooner. ;3 But, it worked out. I hope you don't mind if I take partial credit for the GA and list it on my userpage. Oh...were you planning on going all the way to FAC with it? We might need to do a lot of prep work beforehand, if so. Silverseren 11:06, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Please stop (bioshock)
Why are you removing categories that are completely valid for the games and the series? --MASEM (t) 03:26, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Normally articles should not appear both in a category and a "parent" of that category. Seriously, you're long enough here to know such things already. --Niemti (talk) 03:29, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
- Wrong, see WP:DUPCAT. It would be one thing if we had "BioShock" and "Rapture series of BioShock", as the latter would always be under the former. But the categories like Alternative History and FPS aren't Bioshock exclusive things, and thus DUPCAT applies. --MASEM (t) 03:35, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
- Please also BRD - you should not be reverting my reverts until consensus is reached. --MASEM (t) 03:36, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Well, soundtrack is there and it's not a game. "But the categories like Alternative History and FPS aren't Bioshock exclusive things, and thus DUPCAT applies" - I don't follow you. --Niemti (talk) 03:38, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
- If you look at WP:CAT and WP:DUPCAT (on the same page), they explain what you said, you would normal not include the parent cat when you include the child one. So, again, if we had "BioShock" and "Rapture series of BioShock", I would only include the latter on the pages releated to BioShock 1 and 2 and associated characters; the relation to BioShock the series is implicit from that. But the categories of things like Alternate History games and FPS games are non-dilutive relative to BioShock, and thus inclusion in both the BioShock category and the genre category is acceptable per DUPCAT. --MASEM (t) 03:50, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Seriously, what? Infinite is FPS and OF COURSE it's alternate history. --Niemti (talk) 03:52, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not saying they aren't. I'm saying that per DUPCAT, we would include both the the BioShock series category and the categories for these genre, even given the fact that that the BioShock cat is a child cat of those genre categories. --MASEM (t) 03:56, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, OK. --Niemti (talk) 03:57, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
- And just as a thought, using Back To The Future as an example, it might be good to have "BioShock games" which take up the other game genre cats. (as BTTF uses "BTTF Films", itself a child cat of "Time Travel Films"). As you have it, you effectively have things like the Soundtrack under "Alternative history games" (ultimately). If anything Category:BioShock probably should only fall into Category:Video game franchises and no others (that I can think off), and with Category:BioShock games under BioShock, with all those genre as parent categories for it. --MASEM (t) 04:06, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, OK. --Niemti (talk) 03:57, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, maybe. Also "Science fiction by franchise". --Niemti (talk) 04:09, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yea, there's lots of different orthogonal paths into Bioshock alone, but the SciFi by franchise certainly works as well for the Category:BioShock one. --MASEM (t) 04:28, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
- I've gone ahead and make the Bioshock games one, and put the games into it. Feel free to populate more parents in the top categories there if you see any. --MASEM (t) 04:59, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
GITS
I see you finally stumbled upon Ghost in the Shell, and yeah. It needs a lot of work. I'm currently in the process of discussing it with Lucia Black, the major contributor of the last two years. The entire scope is a mess and I had to pull this out of being a manga only page. Lucia wanted Ghost in the Shell to be Ghost in the Shell (manga) and actually made the manga a redirect back in Oct until I noticed it when she put up the franchise for GA. You might want to read the fun over at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Anime and manga. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 13:58, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Jacob's Ladder review
Hope you don't mind another review from me so soon, but I started in on Jacob's Ladder (film); I've been on a reviewing kick, and you write about a lot of things I'm interested in. Anyway, this looks like another very solid nomination, only 3-4 action points to address. Drop by when you get a chance, and thanks for all your contributions. -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:26, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
A brownie for you!
Thanks for your contributions to promote Jacob's Ladder (film) to Good Article status--have a healthy breakfast, on me. =) Khazar2 (talk) 14:34, 9 January 2013 (UTC) |
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Anita Sarkeesian discussions
I wanted to let you know in a less heated context than your proposal in talk that without having looked deeply at the issue I do agree that the counter-reaction to the non-gaming press's sympathy with Sarkeesian should probably have a place in the article. Destructoid is not bad as a source in my view, and I'm sure there are others that could be used as well to show that the there are some in the gaming realm that find all of the sympathy with her to be over the top.
But I also think it's important that you consider the reality of the situation at that article. There is clearly a consensus of other editors who disagree that this material is relevant to the issue and in order to change their minds you will have to advocate for your idea in a persuasive manner. You can't ram your views down the throats of other editors even if you feel very strongly about the issues. Specifically, insults and mockery are not helpful to your cause in the least. If you can't make the case for your position without being petty about it then you'd do better letting a like-minded editor handle the counter-arguments.
Part of being persuasive in this matter also includes taking steps appropriate to your goals. If you want to include material on Destructoid's reaction to the mainstream reaction to AS's detractors's reactions to her posts then your central concern is in expanding the article. A request to rename it is tangential to the issue and serves as a distraction. It is clear to neutral third parties who review the situation that the request is being made as a work-around to side-step consensus regarding the content of the present article. If you are interested in expanding the article's reception section then this is a rhetorically poor way to go about it because it comes off more as misdirection than direct engagement with the meat of the issue.
Anyway I just wanted you to know that I have no opinion on the issue that seems to me to be your true concern (i.e. adding the gaming press's reaction both positive and negative to her) although I lean in favor of including it. But at the same time I recognize that there is a consensus against it and I think that your proposal to move the article is the wrong way to deal with this consensus with an opposed view. If you get to the point at some future date where you are interested in engaging with the actual issue of whether the reaction section should be added to then you'll find me much more sympathetic to your views. I'd give it some time before I revisit the issue though as you seem to have created a lot of bad blood at the talk page. -Thibbs (talk) 13:11, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
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Just a thought
Do you realize how illogical it is? If AS is not notable (as you tell), why bother with discussing her biography over and over again at the BLP talk page? But you are not alone. For example, I too behave strange. May be that's because none of us should be editing here? My very best wishes (talk) 15:00, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
- Oh man, AfD failed, redirect discussion failed, there is a standing ANI about you, and you go berserk? Even if to assume that you are right, do not you already know that policies (including WP:RS, WP:NPOV, whatever) do not really matter? What matters is only WP:CONSENSUS. It does not matter why you lost, but you lost. I am sorry, but only you can help yourself. My very best wishes (talk) 20:47, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- AfD didn't fail, because it wasn't brought up yet. It will be in time, not now (I've got to make a proper article first). Then we'll see. --Niemti (talk) 21:00, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Do not you realize that AfD will not succeed? If you open an AfD, I will not be there, but quickly looking at article and sources, I would vote "keep" (I do not know much about AS, and I am generally an "inclusionist"). I must also admit that there are BLP issues involved. The tone and character of these off-wiki internet discussions is such that one should really stay away. I do not understand why you need this, except being obsessed too much with the subject. Who cares if there are a few more articles on-wiki on marginally notable subjects, and you do not edit them? Why edit if they are not notable? Just ignore this whole thing and go edit articles about more important bad guys or good guys, as you did in past. My very best wishes (talk) 21:56, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- P.S. Actually, I do not contribute to certain subjects not because I would not be able to contribute (I know these subjects very well), but because I feel that editing them would emotionally distract me (and attract some contributors who watch my edits). Same is possibly here. My very best wishes (talk) 17:40, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- You mean, the Nashists were harrassing you on Misplaced Pages? --Niemti (talk) 17:44, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- No. I only mean that you should not edit any subject if you feel strongly emotionally attached to it and there is an ungoing serious dispute (such as an ANI thread about you). Would you agree with this? If so, please tell at the ANI that you voluntarily agree not edit BLP article about AS.My very best wishes (talk) 19:00, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- I already did. --Niemti (talk) 19:01, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- So you do agree with me? Simply telling that you unwatched the page is not enough. You should clearly state at the ANI that you will not edit this article including talk page, if this is your intention. Such is this environment.My very best wishes (talk) 19:15, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- I did, including on the talk page itself. I'm tired of repeating same the things over and over again, so I won't. They also like to say that I "rant" (a well argumented discussion, explaining everything, and such), so OK, I'm not "ranting" anymore. --Niemti (talk) 19:24, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- So you do agree with me? Simply telling that you unwatched the page is not enough. You should clearly state at the ANI that you will not edit this article including talk page, if this is your intention. Such is this environment.My very best wishes (talk) 19:15, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- I already did. --Niemti (talk) 19:01, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- No. I only mean that you should not edit any subject if you feel strongly emotionally attached to it and there is an ungoing serious dispute (such as an ANI thread about you). Would you agree with this? If so, please tell at the ANI that you voluntarily agree not edit BLP article about AS.My very best wishes (talk) 19:00, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- You mean, the Nashists were harrassing you on Misplaced Pages? --Niemti (talk) 17:44, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- P.S. Actually, I do not contribute to certain subjects not because I would not be able to contribute (I know these subjects very well), but because I feel that editing them would emotionally distract me (and attract some contributors who watch my edits). Same is possibly here. My very best wishes (talk) 17:40, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- Do not you realize that AfD will not succeed? If you open an AfD, I will not be there, but quickly looking at article and sources, I would vote "keep" (I do not know much about AS, and I am generally an "inclusionist"). I must also admit that there are BLP issues involved. The tone and character of these off-wiki internet discussions is such that one should really stay away. I do not understand why you need this, except being obsessed too much with the subject. Who cares if there are a few more articles on-wiki on marginally notable subjects, and you do not edit them? Why edit if they are not notable? Just ignore this whole thing and go edit articles about more important bad guys or good guys, as you did in past. My very best wishes (talk) 21:56, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- AfD didn't fail, because it wasn't brought up yet. It will be in time, not now (I've got to make a proper article first). Then we'll see. --Niemti (talk) 21:00, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Leon S. Kennedy
I've just reviewed the article Leon S. Kennedy, and passed it as a good article. Congratulations! ~ Matthewrbowker 21:01, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
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XCOM: Enemy Unknown
Just wanted to let you know I've promoted XCOM: Enemy Unknown to Good Article status. Thanks for your work--keep it up, Khazar2 (talk) 01:29, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Talk:Ada Wong/GA1
I have started the GA review of Ada Wong at Talk:Ada Wong/GA1; further work is required before this article can be considered for Good article status; I have left a number of comment which I hope you will find constructive at the review page, which I have added to my watchlist. Harrias 15:37, 23 January 2013 (UTC)