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Priestley list

Hi. At Talk:List of works by Joseph Priestley you said on May 2 that you had a new version of the "online works" list to be uploaded, but you haven't edited the article since April. I was wondering if you still had that update at hand (or near completion)?

Underneath your thread there, I've suggested that it would be most efficacious to merge that list of external links, into the rest of the article, to prevent duplication (and confusion or missed-information for readers), in the same way that List of works of William Gibson is written. Your thoughts would be appreciated there. Thanks :) -- Quiddity (talk) 20:42, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Electronic Cigarette History

Hey I'm in the process of writing an article on vaping, the use of a personal vaporizer/e-cig, and I was wondering if you could post the references to my talk page for the in depth history you posted, it would be of much help. Thanks. Le rufus (talk) 16:11, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

FIFA rankings

As I understand it, the point that you are trying to make is that the calculation of points in, for example, Decamber 2006 included calculations based on rankings in, for example December 2005, but those Dec 05 rankings were reached via the previous calculation method, not the one introduced in July 2006. Therefore any false impression about the relative strength of teams given under the old formula still has an influence. Is that a correct reading of your intention?

Assumming that to be the case, I would be uncertain about the merit in including it.

• Any system for quantifying comparative performances is open to challenge, and the relative accuracy of alternative formulae is only ever going to be subjectively quantifiable, so there is no NPOV case that previous error is carried forward, in which case the carrying forward of previous results is scarcely remarkable.
• By now, the difference in rankings caused by not retrospectively applying new formulae to old results is both extraordinarily difficult to calculate, and, I would suggest, minimal in the difference it would make to October 2010 rankings.
• But most importantly for including the claiim in Misplaced Pages, is this verifiably true? I suspect it is: I'd be surprised if they bothered to retrospectively apply the 2006 system, but is there a source that clearly states that?

I am hereby surprised, as promised, to find out that they did indeed do this Kevin McE (talk) 16:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Even leaving aside such issues, I would suggest that it can be said rather more simply and clearly than "The updated calculation methods were implemented by FIFA on a forward progress; meaning that they only replaced the previous method starting from a certain month, and never were used by FIFA to calculate new points and rankings for the past. Thus, the historical charts of each nations FIFA ranking since 1993, are drawed upon all three calculation methods; the first from August 1993 until December 1998, the second from January 1999 until June 2006, and the third since July 2006."

• Your courage in editing in a language that is not your mother tongue is noted, but phrases such as "implemented... on a forward progress" and "are drawed upon" are not ones that a native speaker would use.
• Most people interested in rankings do not access an "historical chart of each nation's FIFA ranking since 1993"
• Your desire to state a lot undermines the clarity of what you wish to say: conciseness is desirable in encyclopaedic writing.
• The dates of the changes in calculation are already evident in the article: re-iterating them here makes the sentence lengthy and the punctuation awkward.

If we assume that the uncertainties in my second paragraph can be overcome, is there anything essential missing from the much simpler phrasing that I introduced: "The updated calculations remained partially dependent on rankings calculated under earlier forms of calculation. " I'm not totally happy about the repetition of the word "calculations" there, maybe "After each change in the formula, positions calculated under the previous method retained an influence in the ranking." I believe that both of these include the relevant points, ar more proportionate, and better combine clarity and conciseness. Kevin McE (talk) 14:12, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi Kevin, the point I tried to add with a few lines, was actualy not related to the "statistical windows", that you highlighted in your reply above. In the article chapter named "Current calculation method", we already have a sentence dealing with the fact, that "opponent strength" to a small degree has been calculated by "old rankings calculated by a previous method". However, FIFA actualy applied the new calculation formula as far back as to 1996, which is already noted with a source in the wiki article. So that particular matter, is in my point of view already covered suficiently by the article. The new point I tried to highlight in the "History chapter", was only to stress the fact, that FIFA never retroactively published rankings for the time frame in Aug.1993-June 2006 based upon their new formula! Instead they preserved all the old data, so whenever you visit their website to look up historical FIFA rankings, then you will find a chart where the ranking positions from Aug.1993-Dec.1998 are calculated by the first method, with ranking positions from Jan.1999-June 2006 being calculated by the second method, and ranking positions since July 2006 being calculated by the third method. I think this info is relevant to add, as ordinary people who are not familair with the FIFA ranking, would tend to assume, that the new formula had been applied retroactively on all data, in order to show both historic ranking positions and the current ranking position, calculated by the same method. This is not the case. Perhaps the point I try to highlight, can be formulated in a better way. You are welcome to give it a try, and of course also more than welcome to continue our talk (either here, or at the discussion page of the article). Danish Expert (talk) 15:55, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

I see: I think my point that your effort did not make clear your intention has been illustrated. To be honest, I don't think anyone who has read that the method of calculation changed in July 2006 would assume that the Dec 2005 rankings were calculated according to the July 2006 formula. But if you think that it should be stated, I'd suggest that clarity and conciseness are met by "Historical records of the rankings, such as listed at FIFA.com, reflect the method of calculation in use at the time." or, if you prefer "Historical records of the rankings, such as listed at FIFA.com, reflect the method of calculation in use at the time, as the current method has not been applied retrospectively to rankings prior to July 2006". Kevin McE (talk) 16:36, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree with you, that my first formulation indeed would be more concise and clear, when being reformulated to the last sentence you wrote. Before I checked back to read your answer here at the discusssion page, I already posted an edit of the sentence in the wiki article, with this formulation: The updated calculation methods were implemented by FIFA on a sequentially basis; meaning that they -publication wise- only replaced the previous method starting from a certain month, with the FIFA website still showing the historical ranking positions calculated by the previous method. Obviously the point of my reformulated sentence is now the exact same, as the one you proposed above. And as I happen to prefer your somewhat shorter and better formulation, I agree to use that sentence instead. :-) Danish Expert (talk) 17:25, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Footy Nationality

I have yet to read it, but I glanced over what you did here . Thanks so much for keeping this going. Erikeltic 15:01, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Reply

Hi there DE, VASCO from Portugal here,

Thank you very much for your kind words and concern about my WP:FOOTY status. Indeed, i am a member of the project and edit more than i would like to - :) - at the site, more than 90% in association football. Did not know i had been added to the list of members nor that i had been removed from it but yes, my account name has been changed after an admin thought it could/should be done. I am not aware if it's an indispensable condition that you sign up to that list, if so, what are the necessary steps?

Again, thanks for your friendly note, keep up the good work as well, and happy Xmas overall! Cheers - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 02:13, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

There is no official WPF requirement/policy in place, that in any way would compel you to sign up as a WPF member. It is a free choise, and unconfirmed WPF members, also have full legitimate access to debate at the WPF talk page. So you did nothing wrong. If you add your name to the official WPF member list, it is however a way to confirm your membership of WPF (that you already indicated with the green userbox at your user page). In general, it is allways a good thing, to confirm your membership. First of all, you will become more visible to other WPF members. Second, the confirmed WPF membership also is a sign/reference towards other editors of football related articles, that you indeed, is truely involved and familair with the important content/debate at WikiProject Football. If you want to sign up, and confirm that you are a true WPF member, this is a fast and easy thing to do. You only need to make an edit to the official WPF member list, where you can add your current user name to the bottom of the list. Cheers, --Danish Expert (talk) 10:18, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

WPF flag

Hello Danish Expert, does the Celtic F.C. page meet WPF Flag policy standards? Adam4267 (talk) 18:10, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

I would assume that the Celtic F.C. season 2001–02 page is not in keeping with the policy? Adam4267 (talk) 18:52, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

I will change all the old Celtic articles to be in compliance with the policy. Thanks for your help DanishExpert. Adam4267 (talk) 19:40, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Greek government-debt crisis

FYI, I have now, at long last, posted a reply to you on the talk page. ~ NotOnIsraPal (talk) 16:42, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Johan Lange (football coach)

Hello. I've been trying to establish the facts at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Johan Lange (football coach), but as I'm using Google Translate I could quite easily have got the wrong end of the stick. It could really do with the input of a Danish speaker familiar with football. Is what I've written correct? Oldelpaso (talk) 17:41, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Greek legislative election, June 2012

This is unsourced and pov. Please leave the hjudgement to the reader.(Lihaas (talk) 11:07, 28 June 2012 (UTC)).

During the last couple of weeks you removed much great content from the Greek legislative election, written by me. Always citing it as POV and demanding additional sources. Honestly I think you are way to fast to hit the delete buttom. And your contribution is more harmfull than good, because the way you delete and judge my contributions, tends to be be POV itself. If you disagree about some of my written material, then I will advice you to open up discussions about it at the talk page of the article. I am able to dig up and add references for every single word I write at Misplaced Pages. In regards of article leads, its however OK just to write a brief summary of the content already provided further down in the article, without repeating the references. For the time being I will undo your deletions, and ask you to open up discussions at the articles talk page, if you feel certain content is in need to be further discussed or provided with additional sources. Best regards, Danish Expert (talk) 13:46, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Anti-Greek

Your anti-Greek posting is becoming disgraceful. Please desist or I will be forced to leave another comment here. Remember that I am the master, the true master. I have so many skills, and so much skill, that you are doomed to defeat. Hairgelmare (talk) 18:51, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Feel free to leave as many comments as you like. It would however be appreciated if you try to calm down, and try to analyze the situation with a bit more perspective. Just for the record, I actually love both Greece and the ancient Greek history. I also praise how Greek politicians ran the Greek economy in the 1970s. This however doesnt change the fact, that Greek politicians and the Greek Economy has performed terribly both in the 80s + 90s + 00s, and this is all together the root cause behind the current Greek debt crisis. Greece only woke up to reality and started to do responsible economic decisions in 2010, and with the new government you elected in June you are fortunately still on the right track to counterfeit the crisis. So I now predict, that Greece already in 2014 will have a healthy return with positive real GDP growth rates, and start to get rewarded for the high austerity price you currently pay. I would however advice you to stop the blame and hate game against Germany. Instead you need to turn your blame and hate against the Greek politicians in the 80s + 90s + 00s. And praise the newly elected responsible Greek politicians in the 10s, and praise that you have a friendly EU family led by Germany, saving you from bankruptcy (which would have caused more than twize the amount of pain and dispare, that the Greek people so far have suffered). Best regards, Danish Expert (talk) 00:45, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Pay attention, lad: I am going to vanquish you with a few deadly blows from my awesome axe. I am going to go wild. Your defeat is unavoidable. Thanks for listening. Hairgelmare (talk) 23:33, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

FYI he was blocked as a sock--Shrike (talk)/WP:RX 06:07, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

August 2012

Please do not attack other editors, as you did to Talk:Greek government-debt crisis. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Please either open an WP:SPI investigation so that you can be laughed off the project or retract your clueless message: As a final comment, I am well aware that Hairgelmare and Dr.K is the one and same person. And just as a friendly advice want to inform you, that it is against the wikipedia policy to use a puppet account to back up your own posted oppinion, in any debate at the talk pages. and learn not to attack longstanding, reputable editors. Δρ.Κ.  20:29, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Removed note on Czech presidential assent

He Danish Expert. Just a short note I have reverted the Czech-royal-assent matter and explained why on the talkpage. Nevertheless, I do appreciate your "quest"" to get as much up to date information as possible on the ratification status! L.tak (talk) 13:41, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

The speculative line removed claiming "the president may intentionally delay his assent", was provided by a high quality source (a status report from the European Parliament). We have long time ago solved the matter by reformulating the phrase, making it more clear that the source speculated. This note is just to highlight, that the speculation by the source was subsequently proofed to be absolutely correct, as the president on 7 December officially announced: "I will never sign such a monstrous treaty". Your concern that the info contained a certain element of speculation was justified. But I think this case proofs that when any high quality (reliable) source add "speculative info", then we can as a rule of thumb rightfully assume it is not just unfounded speculation to be ignored, but something they have some sort of sources giving them a relatively certain indication on. So if formulated carefully in the wikipedia article (making sure it is noted to be speculative info made by the source), I insist such kind of info is still worth to add. Best regards, Danish Expert (talk) 09:23, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

2008–2012 Spanish financial crisis

I have edited you recent contribution to 2008–2012 Spanish financial crisis for readability. (Excellent addition, by the way.) Please see that I did not inadvertently change the meaning or emphasis. Jason from nyc (talk) 15:31, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Romania and the euro

Hello, Danish Expert! Considering your edit here, you may also want to update the Romania and the euro article. You could also use this New York Times article, where Mugur Isărescu confirms that "Romania’s previous target for joining the euro zone, in 2015, is now out of the question". Thanks, Razvan Socol (talk) 04:47, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. I have now added both the reference and the confirmed info, into both articles. Danish Expert (talk) 12:28, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Member List

Hello Danish Expert long time no speak, I'm in the process of updating the WP:FOOTY members list which you updated last time. There's just one thing I'm confused over, at the bottom you mark 4 users with stars with the note The 4 inactive members marked with 3 stars, will automatically be removed to the Active member list, if they manage to post minimum 1 football related edit in the second half of July 2011 see your version But they've already been removed from Active member list, should it not say re-added rather then removed. Care to explain, please. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 14:49, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes, unfortunately in 2012 I had to cut down on most of my football related contributions, due to limited time and other fields of interest also calling for attention. But perhaps I will return next year with more regular contributions to the football field again. :-) In regards of the WP:FOOTY members listed with 3 stars, it was only ment as a temporary note for the list. So it is OK (and perhaps also preferrable) not to have this note in the future. You are right, that it would be less confusing if I had written "re-added to the Active member list". I welcome your initiative to update the list. Best regards, Danish Expert (talk) 12:39, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

I started a thread over at WP:FOOTY (see here) & it's now been suggested that a new list be started. Although you feel your football related contribution may have been limited recently, your input on the issue would be greatly appreciated, given fact you updated the list in the past. Regards ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 18:02, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Archiving talk page content

Instead of deleting talk page content like you did on Talk:Euro convergence criteria, it's better to WP:ARCHIVE it. I've setup archiving for the euro convergence criteria page, so a bot should automatically clean it up in a day or so. If you have any questions on how to set this up on another page, or your talk page, just let me know. TDL (talk) 10:35, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

To be honest, I was already fully aware of the existence of the archive bot for archiving old and closed debates, but as I wrote in my edit: I removed 3 "stub chapters" from the talk-page, that only displayed one outdated comment (without replies) related to a previous call for a simple edit-correction subsequently being implemented in the article (without replies) - and not in anyway being content for a debate at the talkpage. Because of the fact that the "stub chapters" carried no talk-page value at all, I still think it would be best to delete them rather than archiving them. And I believe WP:Prune actually allow us to make such a deletion. Yet, it is not a high-priority matter for me to delete them (if you want to keep them), and in any case I welcome your decision to activate the archive-bot for old and outdated discussions. Best regards, Danish Expert (talk) 11:07, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

example

He Danish, that was me that changed those numbers, because I wanted to make sure that percentage points and not percentages was taken. With 100% that doesn't matter, but with 80% it is much clearer. Could you amend the description to have an example with 80% (or 120%)? L.tak (talk) 16:19, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Good point. No offence meant by my revert today. I will now instead change the example to 80% as you have asked. Danish Expert (talk) 16:22, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

No offence taken... It's crystal clear we're iteratively getting to the best possible page, which is good! L.tak (talk) 00:11, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar is awarded to especially tireless editors who contribute an especially large body of work without sacrificing quality. Thank you for your work relating to the Enlargement of the eurozone. U5K0'sTalkMake WikiLove not WikiWar 14:06, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your appreciation, which admittedly now injects even more fuel to my engine. Spurred by this, I will soon also add a new extra update for Poland. :-) Danish Expert (talk) 14:19, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Excellent! :D --U5K0'sTalk_{Make WikiLove not WikiWar} 18:57, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Copying within wikipedia

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I know you don't like me, but I need to warn you about this. In this edit you copied text from Andorra–European Union relations. I noticed because I wrote the original. You have to give credit to the original authors when you copy like that. TDL (talk) 02:54, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorry if I offended you. Indeed it appear that I forgot to provide a copylink in the "Edit summary", of the copy I did of your 1 line recently written in the "Andorra-European Union relations" article. My only excuse is, that I beside of the copied line also had added my own written extra line in conjunction. I very seldom copy other peoples line from other wikipedia pages. If I do again in the future, I will of course be more carefull to remember atributing the copyrighter link in the "Edit summary". Best regards, Danish Expert (talk) 08:02, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

No offence taken. Nothing wrong with copying, just be sure to put a link in the edit summary in the future. TDL (talk) 21:38, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

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March 2013

Your recent editing history at Latvian euro coins shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. TDL (talk) 16:37, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

• Danish Expert, I have reverted you in that article, for reasons explained on the article talk page. Let me add that I find that in general your edits appear to be problematic. In summary, it seems to me that you are adding original research, that you exhibit ownership over articles, that you have edit-warred, and that you get carried away with adding what really are minutiae (excessive detail makes for unreadable articles). Now, you have skills and passion, and that's great, but some of this energy needs to be rechanneled. Drmies (talk) 01:26, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Concerns about original research

@TDL: In the past four months there have now been a few times, where you and I clashed about the WP:OR policy. In those cases where we have clashed, I admit to have applied a backwords approach, where I started out to state the facts as I knew it was the WP:TRUTH. I have always seen such uploads as part of a process, where we were continously working to find sources and improve the articles. So my uploads were not ment to be unsourced forever, but something where it could be possible for me (or another editor) at a later stage to return and add the needed source. I admit to have been sloppy a few times not to remember adding the {{CN}} tag behind such WP:OR comments, but as all our subsequent discussions have proofed it was in each an every case subsequently possible to find the needed references to back my claims. Just to name the most recent examples, this is true for: 1) When Vaclav Havel had refused signing the ESM amendment treaty, 2) When the Czech PM was not prepared to join Fiscal Compact before such a thing had been explicitly approved by a referendum (which his TOP09 coallition partner refused), 3) When I claimed the Left-Green Movement had changed their policy now to support a completion of EU negotiations. In each of these three examples, I was able subsequently to add references that proofed my finding (which in those mentioned cases at first had been uploaded to the article as a combined WP:SYN of my own research after reading several articles in the field). Again a somewhat backwords process to you (and most editors here at Misplaced Pages), but this is how I work, which in most cases also should be considered a quality because I never limit myself to accept what a single source have written, but instead do a more broader research in the field on my own to learn what is really the WP:TRUTH. I appoligy to you, that I have been too sloppy to forget adding the CN tag in a couple of few cases, where I did not at first find a single direct reference suitable for the purpose and forgot to add the CN tag. I promise you in the future to improve, so that I from now on always remember to add these CN tags whenever needed.

My reply to you directly here at the articles talkpage, should really never have been posted here, but instead at your/my personal talkpage. But as your insinuated attacks against my moves and work process in general, to a great extend also has been reflected by your replies posted throughout the debate here at this articles talkpage, this now also make it appropriate for me to post my respons here (although another time I will recommend you engage with me more directly on my personal user talkpage, if you for whatever reason continue to have problems with my working process in general, instead of starting an unnecessary fuss about it by contacting administrators since February 2013 behind my back - without posting the slightest notification about your so-called general objection to my upload behaviour at my user talkpage- a general objection which by the way only entail a real objection to less than 10% of my previous uploads - and in all cases where we both have reached a final peacefull mutual agreement about the content so that the article was left in a state where your initial concerns had been fully met). As usual I assume WP:AGF on your behalf, but I have to say that your communication with me has been very clumsy, and a little too sneaky compared to a normal recommended approach here at Misplaced Pages. In our previous clashes, I each time asked you in the future to add a CN tag for those portions of my uploaded material you found needed a ref, instead of just removing it. Despite of that, you have never done so, and continued your practise of conducting a blindfolded removal of those parts of my uploaded material that needed an extra ref. I acknowledge it is mainly my own responsibility to add the CN tags, and not something I should leave as a task for you to do, and as stated above I will also start to be better remembering to do this in the future. Please do not take personal offence when I say this, but one of the main reasons why the atmosphere a few times in the past has developed into something experienced as tence, was because that I had forgot to add CN tags and that you also for whatever reason preferred to hit the delete tast rather than add a CN tag. We could really have avoided many clashes and a tense atmosphere, if we instead more actively has added CN tags for those parts of my upload where it was needed, in which case I would anyway have returned shortly afterwords to the page and uploaded the needed and called for reference. Our past clashes are neither black or white. We could both have acted better to prevent them. Let this be my final words in this case. Best regards, Danish Expert (talk) 18:13, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

I've moved this discussion here so that we don't clutter Talk:Latvian euro coins with things unrelated to that topic.

I really don't think that it's fair for you to call my communication with you "clumsy" or "sneaky", or to say that I've never "attempted to contact me directly". I've raised these same issues with you on talk pages in a very clear manner, over and over and over and over and over again. Each time you either don't understand or ignore my concerns and continue with the same problematic editing. Many other editors have raised the same concerns about your edits, but you ignore them as well. When I left a notice on your talk page about a problem, you told me that this "offended" you and was "poor form". The problem isn't getting better, and if you aren't prepared to listen to what other editors tell you, what options do we have except to ask for a neutral third option? I didn't ask Drmies to get you in trouble, I simply asked for his help in trying to explain to you why your edits are problematic.

"but as all our subsequent discussions have proofed it was in each an every case subsequently possible to find the needed references to back my claims" - that's just simply not true. For every case you listed, I can show you one where your analysis was wrong. 1) Have you found a source for the "EU's policy of only allowing the European microstates (with populations less than 100,000) to 'partially adopt' the euro"? Will Andorra lose the right to mint euros if they grow by 15,000 and surpasses this magic 100,000 barrier? 2) You have admitted that your analysis here: "that ECB will publish their next official evaluation report in April 2013" wasn't supportable by sources. 3) You couldn't find a source that "the Cypriot Central Bank supplies the UK dependent territory geographically located on Cyprus" with euros. But at the end of the day, the point you keep missing is that it really doesn't matter whether your analysis is correct or not. All that matters is whether your content is sourced. The sooner you can accept that, the better for everyone involved. And no, adding a {{cn}} tag at the end of your OR does not solve the problem. You can't add your OR to the encyclopedia, period. If things can't be sourced, then they shouldn't be included. If you want to store content while you look for more references, then there are plenty of options: you could create a sandbox or add it to the talk page. Either option would allow for interested editors to help you look for sources. But such unsourced analysis shouldn't be included live in an article until such sources are found.

I think everyone sees that you have tremendous skills, and that if you could just learn to understand what should be included in the encyclopedia and what should not, you'd make an excellent contributor. Please, take some time to read over wikipedia's important policies such as WP:OR, WP:V, WP:NPOV, WP:N, and WP:NOT. If you have questions about them, I'd be happy to answer them. Or if you prefer, you could ask one of the editors listed here. TDL (talk) 04:39, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Danish Expert, it seems to me you have an extraordinary set of talents, but some of those aren't applicable on Misplaced Pages. I fully concur with TDL's statements about original research--they only thing he missed out on was pointing at WP:SYNT, which here is evident in the fact that conclusions are drawn, tables are constructed, and comparisons are made using original research. Anyway, I have left a response to your comment on my talk page as well. Seriously, I wish I had some of that talent that you have: I'd be making real money in the real world instead of volunteering on this site for geeks. All the best, Drmies (talk) 12:52, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

@Drmies: Thanks for your reply. As a matter of fact, I indeed currently already earn money on my analytical skills as a working Engineer consultant with a technical MSc and a bachelor degree in Economics. My personal background is however irrelevant. I have never considered Misplaced Pages to be a restricted area for geeks/students, but instead consider it to be a highly informative world wide encyclopedic work which all sorts of society people are continously working to improve. I do it gladly for free at the few areas where I have interest/expertise, as I appreciate the concept of a globally free to use encyclopedia. After receiving your and TDL's request for me to refresh how the exact words of the specified Misplaced Pages policies you both linked to has been formulated, I will of course indeed do so again reading them from top to bottom. When I get through it all, I will inform you if it changed anything (which I doubt it will, although I admit to rely on my memory of the policies as they were formulated 3 years ago). I can reveal to you that my described "backwords working process" (in the reply above to TDL) only has been applied to the EU-related articles where TDL has been a frequent visitor, and in those few cases where a part of my upload had not been covered directly by the listed source, this problem got solved either by the fact that TDL deleted the unsourced part of my upload or on my part by a subsequent renewed upload of the material with an extra verifying reference which TDL had requested me to add by his deletion. Currently we have left all these articles in a state both TDL and I could approve. So we do not have any leftover cases to improve/solve related to my account.

Our only current ongoing disagreement is about the "Monthly convergence data". In that regard, I want you to pay attention to the fact, that I - with the earlier consent of TDL who also was engaged directly in this work - since January 2013 applied the same approach to uploading monthly data for the most recent month in the Template:Euro convergence criteria displayed by the Enlargement of the eurozone article. When I then duplicated this approach into the Latvian euro coins article, I thus only acted in good faith, and was subsequently surprised to find so strong resistance about it, as nobody had objected so strongly to this uploaded data when displayed by our Template:Euro convergence criteria. In my point of view it should really be obvious to everybody, that if we ban the concept of uploading "monthly convergence data" for one article, then this should of course also apply to the similar approach used by our Template:Euro convergence criteria. For the moment, I will continue at the articles talkpage to attempt reaching a true WP:CONSENSUS for how we in the future shall handle the concept of "monthly convergence data". It would be great if you have time to leave a short comment for my @drmies reply at the articles talkpage (after also reading my below reply to @xil). I perfectly understand if you dont have time to look into the exact argumentation of the presented "case facts", but in that case it would by nice if you still just left a short comment at the talkpage to flash that you only interfered in our debate based on a brief understanding of the case by reading the talkpage (and so far did not perform a more in-depth evaluation of the "case facts"), and that if we do not reach WP:CONSENSUS based on our debate below, then you will recommend us to try reaching so through starting up a WP:RFC or WP:ORN (as you previously also suggested to TDL+me at your own user talkpage).

In regards of our internal debate about a suitable working method for future edits comming from my account, I would like you also to comment here on my user talkpage, whether or not my suggestion posted above in my reply to TDL can be approved by the Misplaced Pages policies: For upload of line(s) which I know accurately reflect the truth, I will in the future be extra careful always to remember only listing the source behind the written info which the source directly verify, and for the remaining unsourced part of the line/sentence remember to list a CN tag with a provided well-explained reason, which explain that the reason for leaving this tag is a well-reasoned assumption that a source indeed can be found for this claim - with the only reason for not being uploaded as part of the first punch was that I did not yet have time dig up this additional source myself. I would of course only use this approach in cases where my memory tells me I once read a source about it (or heard the news in radio/tv), and in each case shortly inform in the CN-tag what my inputs where for stating such claim + Also invite any reader to delete it again after 1 month if it had not been directly verified and sourced by then. Would that be wrong? After reading the Template:Citation Needed, I truely believe there would be nothing wrong with such approach. It will be key-important both for me and TDL to learn, if you agree/disagree with me or him on this specific corner of the Misplaced Pages policies. Thanks in advance. Best regards, Danish Expert (talk) 08:03, 18 March 2013 (UTC)