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Arctic Kangaroo 14:17, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

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Corner tube boilers

I've moved your created article from Misplaced Pages:Corner Tube Boilers to corner tube boilers. This is so that it meets our project standards for naming articles (WP:MOSNAME) and so that the links work. Good to have another editor along with an interest in boilers! 8-)

Actually it might yet need to be moved to corner tube boiler, as the rules for when to use plural names are quite restrictive. I'd need to read up more about them before knowing – easy to move though. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:30, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Eckrohrkessel

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Ghorpaapi/sandbox

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A tag has been placed on User:Ghorpaapi/sandbox requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Misplaced Pages takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Explaination as to why the page Eckrohrkessel should not be deleted

Hello Wiki users !

I am glad to receive the immediate feedbacks here on WIKI immediately as soon as I am writing them . My first article was written yesterday Corner tube boiler ( already deleted) and the second today (Eckrohrkessel). The policies and terms and conditions are still new for me and I am learning a lot every hour because of the different nominations for speedy deletions for my articles. But even though I am working in the sandbox and have not yet released it for the so called publishing why am I still getting speedy nominations on my sandbox ?

I am going to start to work on changing the article immediately now in my own words and will try not to misuse this platform of wikipedia for any kind of advertising or personal profit. I would like to hear or read comments of those experts here on wikipedia. (Ghorpaapi (talk) 14:09, 16 January 2013 (UTC))

Hi Ghorpaapi, sorry your first experiences here have been just a little frustrating!

Misplaced Pages is built on a ton of confusing policies. Most are obscure, many are ignored, but some are rigorously pursued. Copyright is one of these. It's not accepted that content is pasted from a source, as this is seen as a WP:COPYVIO (and you know the rest). Sometimes drafts are given a little more leeway, but sometimes not and they tend not to be after a first article has been deleted. Some authors just don't draft online, but work off-line first, on their own computers.

You might find the Teahouse helpful and a pretty friendly place for new editors. Good luck with it, feel free to ask me anything here or on my talk page. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:34, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks you for your feedback Andy. The Teahourse platform came out of great help.

(Ghorpaapi (talk) 15:45, 16 January 2013 (UTC))

Hello Andy once again! After doing a good research on wiki articles notability and citations I am beginning with my article again but this time again in Sandbox. In case I am doing any infringement again it is totally UNINTENTIONAL : Ghorpaapi

Problem in citing multiple quotes from the same book ??

This help request has been answered. If you need more help, place a new {{help me}} request on this page followed by your questions, contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page, or consider visiting the Teahouse.

I am trying to quote 2 different books mayer and thome and I have tried the exact mentioned way to cite the same ref twice , the mayer citation worked correctly and exactly as I wanted but when I try to cite the thome twice the reference goes automatically to mayer as the third , fourth and the fifth reference consequently . The article in process and not yet finished and hence I am still working on it in my sandbox. Ghorpaapi (talk) 16:10, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind, but I've just fixed some reference syntax and WP:MOS stuff. I think the main problem was using double quotes around the name attribute.

I also find that generous whitespace around reference parameters makes editing them a lot easier. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:35, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

I did much the same thing, but when I finally clicked "Save page" I found Andy had got there first. I have turned off the "helpme" as I think your problem is fixed. The examples of how to do references put quotes round: <ref name="X" />, I suppose to show that "X" is an example, but you don't need to - <ref name=May> works fine. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 17:21, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Andy Dingley and JohnCDfor your time and help to make this article better. The citations seem a lot easier now. Ghorpaapi (talk) 09:18, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

It's funny that – those templates are impossible to get right, until finally they are right, and then you can't see what the problem could ever have been! Andy Dingley (talk) 11:41, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

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InShaneee (talk) 09:46, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you for the info , I am definitely willing to provide further information so that it will not be deleted. Ghorpaapi (talk) 08:25, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

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Arctic Kangaroo 14:31, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

John Hirst (businessman)

Could you at least read an article before claiming it is a promotion?? And if you are going to make that claim, then do please tell what company the article is promoting. As for John Hirst, he is a significant figure in British public life, as a few minutes of googling would confirm. AlfBit (talk) 11:44, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

That's precisely what I meant when I said at the Teahouse that you'd need to be careful... One of my (now apparently retired) adoptees, User:Shrikanthv, had very similar problems, and almost got into serious trouble for misusing the G11 tag on new articles - don't go the same way! I can't see any suggestion of promotional editing at John Hirst (businessman); I'd be curious to know what it was that made you think it was a suitable candidate for deletion - if we know why editors make mistakes with deletion templates like this, we can look at revising the wording behind them to make their correct useage clearer. Yunshui 雲‍水 11:50, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

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Yunshui 雲‍水 12:02, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

G11 again

Yes, Giresh Gunjan needed to be deleted. No, it was not blatant advertising or promotion. The correct tag in this case would have been A7: No indication of importance (real person). If you want some assistance in this area, I'd be happy to help - I've a couple of CSD-related pages in my userspace as part of my adoption school, and I can easily adapt them for you. Yunshui 雲‍水 12:40, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Dear Yunshui ! thank you for your spontaneous feedback. I will definitely need assistance from you , I completely agree and I am glad that you are watching and guiding me at every step. Simultaneously, please guide me in this particular case if the person has used the marketing or advertising language for himself ( here A glorious student ) may there be a chance that the person is trying to use WIKI platform for his own personal benefits ? Ghorpaapi (talk) 12:47, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

• Dear Yunshui! Yes the A7 criteria is the appropriate one. My mistake again in tagging. Ghorpaapi (talk) 12:57, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

I can see where you're coming from regarding the language, but it's easy enough to remove one word (maybe two, if you include his description of his college as "famous"). If you can fix the article with a slight change to the wording, it's not a candidate for speedy deletion. In this case, though, removing the peacock words would still have left a hopelessly unsuitable article, about a clearly non-notable subject - hence, we delete it on the grounds of encyclopedia (un)importance, rather than the language used. As a rule of thumb, if you can remove the promotional language and still leave a half-decent article then a) you should! and b) it's not a candidate for G11. Only if the text is so shot through with ad-speak that it's unsalvagable should G11 come into play. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:02, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Tell you want, if you want a bit of practice try this test from my adoption pages. It should only take about ten or fifteen minutes to complete, and I'll be happy to mark your responses to give you an idea of what you need to work on. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:05, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Great ! I am going to tag those articles now as a practice tests. Ghorpaapi (talk) 13:15, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Rather than actually putting a deletion request up, why don't you edit question page to let Yunshui know what you would do in each situation :) Worm(talk) 13:22, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Woah there! Don't actually tag them, please - they're intended as tests, we don't actually want them deleted. Just put your answers on the quiz page. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:23, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Okay okay !! I assumed that I have to tag them ! Sorry ! I am gonna edit them. Please don't be mad at me ! :s Ghorpaapi (talk) 13:25, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

No worries - it's totally my fault anyway; I forgot to substitute the page (I transcluded it instead) meaning that you wouldn't have been able to add your answers to it anyway. Sorry about that; it's now fixed - just edit the page and put your answers next to the A for each question. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:28, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I've marked your answers - it looks as though you need to spend a bit more time reading through the deletion policies. Whilst I can see the logic behind most of your responses, you've made a lot of mistakes, such as tagging non-articles with article-only reasons, or misunderstanding the concept of context in relation to A1. It's important to remember that speedy deletion tags are deliberately very limited in their scope; anything outside the extremely small remit of CSD needs to be dealt with using WP:PROD or WP:AFD instead.

Try to reconsider your approach to deletion - if you find a crappy article, make your first thought, "How can I fix this?" rather than "Why should this be deleted?" Only if a fix isn't feasible should you be thinking about deletion, and unless you're certain that the page falls unequivocably into one of the CSD categories, that deletion should be a PROD at worst. If you find something you're unsure about, it's perfectly okay to ask me (or another experienced editor) for a second opinion; we're always happy to help! Yunshui 雲‍水 09:18, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

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Sure!!! :-) The Wikimon (talk) 13:24, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

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