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Abortion

Aristotle? Well, that's got to be the least controversial edit ever done to the article. OrangeMarlin 04:34, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

I figured I should put something down before I ripped out that unsourced, factually wrong, Hippocratic Oath bit of fucking insane propaganda and replaced it with reality. That will be more interesting :) Nice Marlin karma btw. ArtifexMayhem (talk) 05:45, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

I was just coming here to thank you for catching that one.

Meanwhile, there's a bit of Leviticus or Deuteronomy that says, roughly, that if you beat a woman to death, you shall be put to death. (That happens a lot in those books.) However, if you beat her just enough that she has a miscarriage, you just have to give her husband some money. So much for the value of fetuses. I'll try to find some non-OR way to work it in after the forthcoming Hippocrates brouhaha. PhGustaf (talk) 04:53, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

I also like this bit...."In the 20th century the Soviet Union (1919), Iceland (1935) and Sweden (1938)....legalize certain or all forms of abortion. In 1935 Nazi Germany..."

Can you find the two red herrings? ArtifexMayhem (talk) 06:03, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Poking around, I see that Judaism and abortion already quotes Exodus 21:22-23. Not sure whether that would fit in the top article, but I'll think about it. PhGustaf (talk) 06:26, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	For scientifically explaining why WTC7 was not exploded due to bombs, thermite, or any variant thereof. Toa Nidhiki05 04:48, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks. Getting it into the articles will be the hard bit. Do you it's time the Collapse of 7 World Trade Center article? Again, thanks for the message. — ArtifexMayhem (talk) 05:36, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

FYI

Akuri has mentioned you in an arbcom request here. Mathsci (talk) 22:58, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Lovely. Thanks for the heads up. — ArtifexMayhem (talk) 23:49, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Akuri has now been indefinitely blocked by NuclearWarfare. I have requested that his evidence be removed and that your name be removed as a party. Mathsci (talk) 00:40, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

arbcom

Without saying anything about the material you have posted, I am quite impressed with how you have organized it. -- # _ 19:48, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Probably a little much but the rocket scientist in me tends toward precision ... It's a habit. (The behavior not the hat) — ArtifexMayhem (talk) 21:03, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Arbitration case "Race and politics" opened

An arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Race and politics. Evidence that you wish the Arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence sub-page, at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Race and politics/Evidence. Please add your evidence by May 21, 2013, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can contribute to the case workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Race and politics/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Ks0stm 01:56, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

You aren't listed as a party in the race and politics case, so the drafting arbitrator (AGK) said I should let you know I intend to present evidence about you there. The discussion is here. Akuri (talk) 20:28, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks for letting me know. — ArtifexMayhem (talk) 21:31, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Arbitration case "Race and politics" opened

An arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Race and politics. Evidence that you wish the Arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence sub-page, at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Race and politics/Evidence. Please add your evidence by May 21, 2013, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can contribute to the case workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Race and politics/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Ks0stm 01:56, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

How do we avoid this in the future?

So things seem to be wrapping up with arbcom. I wanted to solicit your opinion on how I could have handled this differently, and on what additional mechanisms might have made this easier for the community to deal with? I feel like I had to really expend a lot more effort than I should have just to get folks to review the edit history. I also feel like there might be alternative mechanisms that can be called in when a content dispute becomes more obviously about behavior. I don't know that there is an easy separation between the two, much of the time. -- # _ 17:54, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't think that there is any easy way to stay out of trouble when some people come to the project with agendas other than building a well sourced encyclopedia. All you can do about that is do your own edits as well as possible, sticking to the reliable sources. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 17:50, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

I agree that that is the foremost concern, but it seems incomplete to me. -- # _ 17:56, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

It also appears that I was reading the majority reference wrong, and the decision is still in question. apologies for jumping the gun. -- # _ 21:11, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

For me checking sources is key. POV pushers will always manipulate sources to support their pov (e.g., my evidence). Obviously finding and challenging those manipulations is a lot of work, but I don't know what else could be done. Unfortunately WeijiBaikeBianji is right – there is no "easy" way to deal with disruptive editors. We muddle through. — ArtifexMayhem (talk) 02:21, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Motion regarding Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Race and politics

Resolved by motion:

In his evidence submission to this case, Apostle12 (talk · contribs · count · logs · page moves · block log) stated he is immediately retiring from editing Misplaced Pages:

This will be my last submission. I have decided to place a "Retired" notice on my user page and scramble my password, thus tendering my resignation

Apostle12's conduct was a substantial part of the present arbitration case (Race and politics) and hearing this case in Apostle12's absence would serve no purpose. The committee therefore resolves that:

1. The present arbitration case is suspended for two months (from the date this motion passes).
2. If Apostle12 returns while this case is suspended, arbitration proceedings will resume.
3. If Apostle12 does not return to editing before two months have elapsed: he will be indefinitely prohibited from editing any page relating to "race and politics", broadly construed; and this case will be un-suspended and closed.
4. Apostle12 is directed to inform the Arbitration Committee if he returns to editing the English Misplaced Pages using any account.

Apostle12 (and all of his accounts, if he has created one or more others at that time) may be indefinitely blocked by any uninvolved administrator if he violates the prohibitions in points 3 or 4 of this motion.

For the Arbitration Committee, Ks0stm 02:28, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Discuss this

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