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Perhaps you should guard against the possibility of coming to haunt you? On at least three articles, you "WP:EANP, no valid reason for reverting", when my previous summary the loss of information imparted by Underlying lk in his previous edits. And, instead of in your revert of correct, ]-complaint formatting, you could have '''removed the four extra braces yourself''' and not whine about as did Nero after he burnt down the greatest city in Europe of his time. Who is the child here? Look beyond empty edit summaries and to editorial behaviour. ''GotR'' <sup>]</sup> 21:27, 5 August 2013 (UTC) Perhaps you should guard against the possibility of coming to haunt you? On at least three articles, you "WP:EANP, no valid reason for reverting", when my previous summary the loss of information imparted by Underlying lk in his previous edits. And, instead of in your revert of correct, ]-complaint formatting, you could have '''removed the four extra braces yourself''' and not whine about as did Nero after he burnt down the greatest city in Europe of his time. Who is the child here? Look beyond empty edit summaries and to editorial behaviour. ''GotR'' <sup>]</sup> 21:27, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

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Welcome!

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DYK nomination of New federal states

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DYK for New federal states

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Talkback

Hello, Nero the second. You have new messages at SarekOfVulcan's talk page.
Message added 14:36, 9 November 2009 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:36, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

reply

I see you have a third party resolving your issues. Keep calm and remember there are 3 million other articles. Try and resolve it at the talk page, but maybe do it slowly? ... to allow everyone time to think Victuallers (talk) 14:41, 9 November 2009 (UTC) - Admins can't delete articles completely, (s)he can't either. Your article will always be there for when this is resolved. Patience. Victuallers (talk) 14:49, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Neue Bundesländer

I have removed the speedy tags from New federal states of Germany and New states (German geography). I could see no history needing to be merged, New states of Germany seems to be the preferred title and they are both valid redirects. If you feel a move is needed, I suggest you obtain consensus in Talk:New states of Germany first. — ] (talk · contribs) 23:06, 9 November 2009 (UTC)


Replaceable fair use File:KARTEneu 2008.jpg

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PAGENAME

Please don't use {{PAGENAME}}, since it will change if the page is move (due to disambiguation). Instead, you can use {{subst:PAGENAME}} which will add the current page name. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ 04:44, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Province TR

Hi Nero the second,
One of your edits to this infobox has, apparantly, had an 'unintended consequence' on Category:Pages with missing references list (added 49 pages of Turkish provinces to the list !). The related discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Category:Pages with missing references list may therefore be of interest. UPDATE: Apparently somone has fixed it somehow as the 49 pages are now gone! - 220.101 talk 20:25, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

That's right, I had the template automatically include a source for the population figures in every article, so you could say it was my fault :P--Nero the second (talk) 00:54, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Replacing templates on Japanese prefecture articles

Why are you making edits like this one? Where was the discussion to replace Template:Infobox Prefecture Japan with Template:Infobox settlement? If there was one, it was never announced to WikiProject Japan as far as I can tell. Additionally, the use of the settlement template is far more kludgy and greatly increases the size of the template. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 08:14, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Why, it because the new one's a lot better and you have to agree on that.--Nero the second (talk) 18:07, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Exactly how is it better? ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 03:14, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
You can now use all the fields of the old template as well as add new informations without having to update the template beforehand, and the template remains visually very similar to the old one. I hope this is enough to answer your question...! Cheers, Nero the second (talk) 09:20, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Adiyaman

Hi, Nero the second. Thank you for your efforts. To use in infobox of Adıyaman Province, we need File:Adıyaman in Turkey.svg instead of File:Adiyaman in Turkey.svg.

Takabeg (talk) 08:30, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Fixing links

Hello. Since you decided to change Centre (region) to redirect to a disambiguation page, it would be a great help if you would also WP:FIXDABLINKS -- that is, review the pages that contain links to "Centre (region)" and fix them to link to the correct article. Thanks. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 10:35, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Orphaning templates

Please use "safesubst:" before substituting templates, see here. This will expand all the #switch, #if, and formatnum statements, and make for a much cleaner substitution. It is annoying to have to go back and clean up after these messy substitutions. Thank you. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 16:15, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Palestinian municipality templates

Hello. Can you tell me why you are replacing the Palestinian municipality infobox with the generic settlement infobox? nableezy - 19:43, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Because the new template can be improved upon in ways the older one could not be.--Nero the second (talk) 22:11, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
I am pretty sure it is a script doing this, not the actual user, as it appears they are just searching for the info boxes and replacing them no matter what page they are actually on. . -asad (talk) 21:35, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure you're wrong. I'm a human being not a script :DDD--Nero the second (talk) 22:11, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
You may be a human being, but you're using AWB or a script. There's no way a human being could make 12 changes in one minute and pay attention to what he was doing. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 22:37, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Wrong again. I didn't use either and I had enough time to move population references / emblems / coordinates to the right field where they were misplaced.--Nero the second (talk) 22:40, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Okay. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 23:08, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
As the preceding section indicates, the purpose was to "orphan" the template, which has now been nominated for deletion by the IP. See #Replacing templates on Japanese prefecture articles higher up on this page, where Nero tried the same thing with another template. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 22:08, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello what's going on here.--Nero the second (talk) 22:11, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Whats going on is several of us have these articles (and the template) watchlisted and saw your edits. You have not really responded to my question, instead you gave a vague non-answer about this one is better. Could you explain for me what about this new template can be improved on in ways the original cannot? If not, I will be reverting the changes to both the article and the template. Additionally, I dont see why you have modified the template at all, as you are now using {{Infobox settlement}} instead of {{Infobox Palestinian Authority muni}}. That being the case, why the changes to the actual template? nableezy - 23:08, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
I have spent the better part of yesterday to change this template because obviously I believed it would be an improvement over the previous version, revert my changes if you feel that you must, but of course if you choose do to that that you would make all my efforts pointless.--Nero the second (talk) 23:13, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
I understand that you felt that way, and you may be right. But I dont see how that is the case, and you havent told me why you feel that way. I dont doubt your good faith, which is why I have not (yet) reverted your changes. Id like to understand why you made them. Are you willing to tell me why? What specifically is better about the standard infobox, and why did you even edit the Palestinian muni template if you werent even going to use it? nableezy - 23:15, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

In case you need notification, Ive replied to you on my talk page. nableezy - 01:15, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Settlement infoboxes

A lot of work has been done to standardise location infoboxes on {{Infobox settlement}}. If you have corners about that work, or proposals for improvement, please share them on that template's talk page, rather than simply orphaning the wrappers which call it. Your contribution will be welcome, but it's best if we all work together. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 21:36, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Israel municipality

Where is the discussion where it was decided to orphan this template? If there is no consensus for this, then please stop right now. It took me a full day to clean up after you orphaned the Palestinian box. A better idea is to convert it to use infobox settlement, then debate whether or not it is a useful wrapper. Thank you. Plastikspork ―Œ 17:49, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Okay, it looks like you only orphaned it on two pages, probably due to problems with the population field. I will see if I can sort that out. However, please don't orphan it without taking it to TFD first. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ 18:12, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

TFD template

Please do not substitute the {{tfd}} template, it just makes a mess. Thank you. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 18:25, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

I thought it worked the same way as the afd template, which makes a mess if it's not substituted.--Nero the second (talk) 13:04, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

template:Infobox Belgium Municipality

Hi, the recent change you made to template:Infobox Belgium Municipality seems to (as best as I can tell) be the cause of reflist errors being thrown on about 100 Belgian Municipality articles (viewable at Category:Pages with missing references list). Templates this complex are beyond my ability to fix from the perspective of a reflist-checker, especially when I'm not familiar with them. Would you mind reviewing that template and figuring out where and how it needs a reflist added to avoid massive quantities of page errors? The kludge-y fix would be to add reflists to each of the 100-odd articles, but that doesn't solve the problem of the template being transcluded to future pages which might not have reflists. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 14:44, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Looks like someone else has fixed it. Thanks anyway! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 16:13, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

regarding Template:Infobox former Arab villages in Palestine

I see you have changed the infobox. We have had several discussions about colour (and picture, and logos) over the years. The general consensus have been to keep a green frame, in order to match the {Palestinian Arab villages depopulated during the 1948 Palestine War} at the bottom of the page. Also: green is a colour which is associated with Islam, and almost all of these villages were mainly Muslim. So, could you please change it back to green? Cheers, Huldra (talk) 19:14, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Also: the area goes completely wrong if there are refs there: I edited Kirad al-Ghannama a couple of days ago; then it was fine, now it is messed up. I am changing the whole thing back, until you have worked it out. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 19:26, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
We are colour coding villages based on the religious majority? Wow, that's a new one. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 23:26, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

All your changes to Swiss former municipalities

Hello Nero, I see you've made a number of changes to articles about former municipalities in Switzerland. The Infobox Swiss town template already has a field that is used to indicate whether a municipality has become a former municipality. There's no reason to create an entirely new template. If you want to add a banner (like you have with the Infobox Swiss town former), then edit the Infobox Swiss town sandbox to create the banner when | municipality_type = former. Please don't just create a new template and apply it in a bot like manner. Thanks Tobyc75 (talk) 08:35, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

There was a discussion about turning {{Infobox Swiss town}} in a wrapper for Infobox settlement, you might have missed it. Considering the important changes that such a transition will entail, it is better to separate these two groups of municipalities. There is a number of important differences between the handling of current and former municipalities, which I tried to briefly explain in the documentation. The resulting {{Infobox Swiss town former}} is a neater and more easily manageable template compared to Swiss town, which is weighted down and made slower by too many levels of avoidable automations (which in the case of former municipalities failed consistently). So as you can see, the purpose was never to just 'add a banner', it was meant to improve the overall experience for all readers and editors, and I did just that.--Nero the second (talk) 11:55, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm well aware of the discussion about creating a wrapper for infobox settlement. I was firmly against it because the wrapper was at least as complex as the current infobox and shouldn't be replaced unless there was a clear benefit beyond "I like it better". By splitting it into 2 templates you're making things more complex for absolutely no benefit. The discussion to delete infobox Swiss Town was inconclusive and unless the WikiProject wants to make a change to Infobox Template, you should not be trying to back door us and make this change. Tobyc75 (talk) 16:14, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
It's too bad that you're firmly against it, I can only see benefits from the move to a wrapper-based template. You should not be afraid of change, even the old template was new at some point. How are things more complex for you, when you use the new 'former town' template? Let me know and I will improve it. By the way, I'm not trying to 'backdoor' anyone, and I strongly resent your accusation. I didn't even vote in the deletion discussion, using a different template simply makes sense, since there will be important changes soon.--Nero the second (talk) 16:21, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Prudence

Perhaps you should guard against the possibility of your own words coming to haunt you? On at least three articles, you falsely claimed "WP:EANP, no valid reason for reverting", when my previous summary explains clearly the loss of information imparted by Underlying lk in his previous edits. And, instead of needlessly (even unjustly) mentioning me in your revert of correct, WP:MOS-ZH-complaint formatting, you could have removed the four extra braces yourself and not whine about as did Nero after he burnt down the greatest city in Europe of his time. Who is the child here? Look beyond empty edit summaries and to editorial behaviour. GotR 21:27, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

August 2013

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