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Removal of Digby Source

Hi, may I enquire as to why you removed it? I don't understand your reason. How can Lal be kept in other sections and how can Digby's views not be expressed? StuffandTruth (talk) 17:02, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Because the edit is wrong, Lal's estimate is for total population loss, not just Hindus. If Lal is still in the article then please add Digby to wherever is needed. Darkness Shines (talk) 17:05, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

At ANI someone (Dougweller) pointed out that it refers only to Hindus. I'll research it more to get behind the true meaning of what is going on as I am unclear at this moment as to what is actually being said by academics. Thanks for helping out. StuffandTruth (talk) 17:16, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

IKR

Yes. I did it, other user prints too much WP:GEVAL i.e. adding many non-notable incidents. And WP:FRINGE, adding many opinions and badly constructed edits. It should be reverted back to 14th jan probably, since when you had left the page. OccultZone (talk) 18:51, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Persecution of the Hindus :

Hi, meanwhile I found a quote by an author, do you think I can add it to the article ? "The claim that a utopian harmony existed in pre-British India is not at all supported by available historical evidence; it, instead, point to the contrary. During the centuries of Muslim rule in India, every major Hindu temple was destroyed and many of them were replaced by mosques, often with towering minarets, as a twin symbol of Islam's trump as well as the subjugation and humiliation of the Hindus. Even after the British mercenaries first landed in India as traders in early 1600s, Aurangazeb (r.1658-1707) was destroying thousands of temples and forcing the Hindus all over India to convert to Islam."— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kanga Roo in the Zoo (talk • contribs)

No because that is obviously wrong, and the source is self published. Darkness Shines (talk) 19:35, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Wrong because the source is self published or because it is not fact?-sarvajna (talk) 20:31, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Both, not every temple was destroyed, unless you have a RS which says otherwise? Maybe over 500 odd years some were knocked down and rebuilt? Darkness Shines (talk) 20:34, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

I agree about every temple thing, but yes many major was destroyed. Not all were rebuilt, Somnath was rebuilt, there are many places where mosques exists beside temples. A big riot occurred after destruction of Babri, many wanted to rebuild temple, that might not happen given the situation.-sarvajna (talk) 20:42, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

It seems only material that agree with your point of view is kept. I am not speaking about this quote in particular. For instance, the relevant Will Durant quote was removed, he is very widely read and accepted, not self-published.Kanga Roo in the Zoo (talk) 08:47, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

I do not have a POV, tell me how you think the Durant quote is persecution? Darkness Shines (talk) 09:08, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry didn't mean that. His book (The Story of Civilization: Our Oriental Heritage) claims that 50,000 inhabitants of Somnath were killed by Ghazni and that Kutb-d Din Aibak slaughtered many and enslaved many.Kanga Roo in the Zoo (talk) 09:23, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, but, how is that a form of persecution? People being killed in war or during the sack of a city was usual practice, as was the taking of slaves. For us to say these things are persecution is OR, we would need sources which say these actions were persecution. Darkness Shines (talk) 09:37, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

Mark Arsten (talk) 03:27, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

You can't ban me

Don't make empty threats. Either talk it out, but don't make such pathetic threats, since you do not have power to ban anyone. Pretending to be a moderator will not get you your way.Kermanshahi (talk) 12:57, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Stop making empty thread, you can't ban anything. And to me the pain and harm MKO terrorist have caused to so many hundreds of thousands of people is worth much much more than a simple wikipedia ban.Kermanshahi (talk) 13:07, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

1. Khan, M A (2009). Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism, and Slavery (Google eBook). p. 219. Retrieved 28 January 2014.