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:Please realise when you're being out of your depth... Please stop interpreting and quoting wikirules at will; please stop being legalistic. And please create new a ''New Section'' at my talk page every time you want to add a comment about a -new- issue... :) ]|]|] :Please realise when you're being out of your depth... Please stop interpreting and quoting wikirules at will; please stop being legalistic. And please create new a ''New Section'' at my talk page every time you want to add a comment about a -new- issue... :) ]|]|]
::'''Just for the record''' (decided, after writing it, to put it here instead of putting it at the ] of the article ):<br>The silliness of all this (self-interpreted) legalistic approach should be, serve as an example to all editors out there, including of course me; one should practise special care and caution, especially when one doesn't know what one's talking about as far as content is concerned; the wikirules (however interpreted) '''are very important''' but they have been set in order to provide ''serious'' content, '''not''' the other way around! "Following" - supposedly - the rules - assuming Elizium23's interpretation of them is correct... - would have led to an ugly, misleading/lacking/... section (see for example his/her ).<br>'''P.S.''' Even the liturgical texts are not really consistent (not a surprise, something trivial of course...). Consult e.g. the right column or go back a page at the cited Liturgy of James (at the authoritative on this issue, afaik, cited source; read also the footnotes; or try the same thing at other Liturgies) and you'll see that the whole hymn is found in various forms, not only in the one excluding said article... This is of course not an isolated example in the history of either Christian texts or texts in general. Had Elizium23 read and reflected on (at least deeply, seriously) the ''Sources'' section, provided of course he/she's acquainted with the basic relevant stuff, he/she would probably have been much more cautious on his/her assumptions, accusations, behaviour and acts. He/she chose instead a mindless legalistic (interpreted at will) path, ending in plain BS... ;-)<br>'''P.P.S.''' Btw, one more confirmation of the maxim that, even in, as far as the knowledge of/about religious stuff is concerned, (in comparison) '''atheists/agnostics rule!!!''' :D ]|]|] 00:56, 7 April 2014 (UTC) ::'''Just for the record''' (decided, after writing it, to put it here instead of putting it at the ] of the article ):<br>The silliness of all this (self-interpreted) legalistic approach should be, serve as an example to all editors out there, including of course me; one should practise special care and caution, especially when one doesn't know what one's talking about as far as content is concerned; the wikirules (however interpreted) '''are very important''' but they have been set in order to provide ''serious'' content, '''not''' the other way around! "Following" - supposedly - the rules - assuming Elizium23's interpretation of them is correct... - would have led to an ugly, misleading/lacking/... section (see for example his/her ).<br>'''P.S.''' Even the liturgical texts are not really consistent (not a surprise, something trivial of course...). Consult e.g. the right column or go back a page at the cited Liturgy of James (at the authoritative on this issue, afaik, cited source; read also the footnotes; or try the same thing at other Liturgies) and you'll see that the whole hymn is found in various forms, not only in the one excluding said article... This is of course not an isolated example in the history of either Christian texts or texts in general. Had Elizium23 read and reflected on (at least deeply, seriously) the ''Sources'' section, provided of course he/she's acquainted with the basic relevant stuff, he/she would probably have been much more cautious on his/her assumptions, accusations, behaviour and acts. <small>(])<!-- Template:RPA --></small> '''P.P.S.''' Btw, one more confirmation of the maxim that, even in, as far as the knowledge of/about religious stuff is concerned, (in comparison) '''atheists/agnostics rule!!!''' :D ]|]|] 00:56, 7 April 2014 (UTC)


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  • ἄκανθος}}, ''akanthos'', a plant that was commonly imitated in ].<ref>{{LSJ|a)/kanqos|ἄκανθος|ref}}. {{OEtymD|acanthus}}</ref><ref>{{cite book |url=http://books.google.com/books?

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  • Testament]] ] {{lang|grc|ἐπίσκοπος}}, ''epískopos'', "overseer", "guardian") is an ] or ] member of the [[Clergy#Christian

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  • mythology]], '''Horkos''' (]: {{lang|grc|Ὅρκος}}, "]")<ref>{{LSJ|o(/rkos|ὅρκος|ref}}.</ref> personifies the curse that will be inflicted on any person who swears a

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  • Greek mythology]], '''Hypnos''' (]: {{lang|grc|Ὕπνος}}, "sleep")<ref>{{LSJ|u(/pnos|ὕπνος|ref}}.</ref> was the personification of sleep; the Roman equivalent was known as Somnus.

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Cippi of Melqart

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You've been pre-warned: I submitted the Cippi of Melqart article for the Did-You-Know section, and the hook got reviewed and accepted today! Maybe our work will get some exposure! Your recent edits are amazing btw: your attention to detail is incredible! reuv 19:30, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Hurrah! P.S. I've only done some derivative work standing on the shoulder of giants... :D Thanatos|talk|contributions 19:39, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
I know I'm being too much, but what will be the text? Reading here this "...that the texts on the Cippi of Melqart (pictured)..." is troubling. Pictured is the Louvre Cippus, i.e. one of the Cippi, not both... ;-) Thanatos|talk|contributions 20:04, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Well, I thought about that a lot. The full text will be: ... that the texts on the Cippi of Melqart (pictured), known as the Maltese Rosetta stone, allowed the deciphering of the Phoenician alphabet in 1764? And the pictured part is indeed the Louvre Cippus - as they are both Cippi, I made sure the caption for the photo was One of the Cippi of Melqart at the Louvre Museum to highlight the fact that its just one! I thought that it's really something we have to live with, as there are two cippi out there - and they haven't been seen next to each other for...quite some time! :P reuv 20:21, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
I guess this will have to do... Unless we have time for a successfull Bring the Cippus back to Malta campaign... Or make English more synthetic again... :)
P.S. When will this be on, do you know? I want to have a printscreen saved... :D Thanatos|talk|contributions 20:33, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Hahahahh! Well, we can try that. Am not sure two of us holding a "Reunite the Cippi" slab of marble (incised in ancient Phoenician characters, of course) would be enough to make it happen! Do I know about the Did You Know? (I know, cheesy) To be honest, I do not know. The arcana of DYK updates are way to much for me...the update page is here - Prep Area 4 (Whatever that means!). I had an article listed on DYK last week, but the update went live at 1 am - and I think by 8 am it got removed...so, didn't get to see it. Good luck if you want to catch it live tho! reuv 20:45, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
FYI: View stats P.S. I managed to get a printscreen! :) Thanatos|talk|contributions 22:06, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Cippi of Melqart

Updated DYK queryOn 26 February 2014, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cippi of Melqart, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the texts on the Cippi of Melqart (pictured), known as the Maltese Rosetta stone, allowed the deciphering of the Phoenician alphabet in 1764? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cippi of Melqart. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it may be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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You're the one who's engaged in an edit-war. The passage had already been indirectly referenced, at that article and elsewhere, but I've now added more references specific, dedicated and explicit about it (and more), especially for your sake. It's trivial, it's common knowledge -as is btw the whole section which you have tagged as OR!?!?!?!?!?- to anyone who has actually done some real research, has serious knowledge about it, yet here you go...
Anyway, if you want to get serious, come there and talk. Otherwise, please stop this foolish, silly behaviour... Thanatos|talk|contributions 17:33, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

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I really feel a bit bad because you had a clear block log until now, but there was no way I could overlook the lame edit war you and Lfdder performed there, regardless of the substance of your edits. I also thought that since both of you were equally at fault, blocking only one of you would have been taking sides on a dispute I have not participated. I hope this to be your last block, though. → Call me Hahc21 06:58, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
Though Lfdder broke 3RR first I won't complain or appeal cause I then obviously broke it too.
In fact, I don't mind, so don't "really feel a bit bad"; a bit of spice in my record is fine... :)
Thanatos|talk|contributions 15:06, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
I really appreciate your reply. I think that the purpose of the block has now been accomplished, and as such I have unblocked you. → Call me Hahc21 16:20, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

'feel free to fuck off'

Έχω αφαιρέσει την συγκεκριμένη προσθήκη. Μην την επαναφέρεις αν δεν θέλεις να ρισκάρεις το block. — Lfdder (talk) 05:04, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

  • 1. Ευχαριστώ αλλά δεν θα πάρω. Έχω το θάρρος των λόγων μου. Προσωπική επίθεση πχ κατ'ουσίαν και επανειλημμένως έκανε αυτός και όχι εγώ επειδή χρησιμοποιήσα μια «κακιά» λέξη. Εν πάση περιπτώσει ας τιμωρηθώ·θάρρος γαρ...
  • 2. Θα με τρελάνεις παρεμπιπτόντως άνθρωπε!!!!!! Μετά το όλο ιστορικό, τα δύο τελευταία «επιχειρήματα» του πληθυντικού στο τετράγωνο (επειδή πληθυντικός->ενικός, επειδή ενικός->πληθυντικός), είναι απλά απίστευτα!!!!!!!!!!
    Ειλικρινά το κεφάλι μου εξερράγη... ;-)
    Thanatos|talk|contributions 05:51, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Εννοώ πως θα ήταν προτιμότερο να το αναδιατυπώσουμε, πες "the earliest record after the Mycenaean texts". Στον ενικό μπορεί να νομίσουν πως υπάρχει μόνο ένα προηγούμενο εύρημα, ενώ στον πληθύντικο πως υπάρχουν κι άλλα κυπριακά ευρήματα της ίδιας περιόδου. — Lfdder (talk) 06:22, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Άνθρωπε θα με τρελάνεις! Aυτή είναι η αιτία της διαμάχης;;;
Αν ναι, έχεις επίγνωση του τι σύνεβη εξ αιτίας ενός τόσο τελείως μέχρις αηδίας ασήμαντου πράγματος;!;!
Ενός πράγματος που, αν όντως θεωρηθεί λυτέο πρόβλημα, μπορεί γελοιωδώς πανεύκολα να αντιμετωπισθεί με χίλιους δυο τρόπους!;!
Ή -συνεχίζεις να- με δουλεύεις στο ψιλό γαζί;!;!;!
Thanatos|talk|contributions 06:58, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Αυτή ήταν η μόνη μου αντίρρηση όσον αφορά το περιεχόμενο που είχε απομείνει. Δεν είμαι σίγουρος ποια είναι η αιτία της διαμάχης· κάπου μπερδεύτηκα. — Lfdder (talk) 13:57, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

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Oops, sorry

Sorry for the revert - purely fat finger syndrome. Richard Keatinge (talk) 10:30, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

No problem.
P.S. The act seemed mysterious to me; only now do I realise how little I am: the universal law of fatfingeritis just hadn't crossed my little mind... :)
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Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Misplaced Pages, as you did at Sanctus, you may be blocked from editing. Thank you. Elizium23 (talk) 22:28, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Please realise when you're being out of your depth... Please stop interpreting and quoting wikirules at will; please stop being legalistic. And please create new a New Section at my talk page every time you want to add a comment about a -new- issue... :) Thanatos|talk|contributions
Just for the record (decided, after writing it, to put it here instead of putting it at the talk page of the article ):
The silliness of all this (self-interpreted) legalistic approach should be, serve as an example to all editors out there, including of course me; one should practise special care and caution, especially when one doesn't know what one's talking about as far as content is concerned; the wikirules (however interpreted) are very important but they have been set in order to provide serious content, not the other way around! "Following" - supposedly - the rules - assuming Elizium23's interpretation of them is correct... - would have led to an ugly, misleading/lacking/... section (see for example his/her changes).
P.S. Even the liturgical texts are not really consistent (not a surprise, something trivial of course...). Consult e.g. the right column or go back a page at the cited Liturgy of James (at the authoritative on this issue, afaik, cited source; read also the footnotes; or try the same thing at other Liturgies) and you'll see that the whole hymn is found in various forms, not only in the one excluding said article... This is of course not an isolated example in the history of either Christian texts or texts in general. Had Elizium23 read and reflected on (at least deeply, seriously) the Sources section, provided of course he/she's acquainted with the basic relevant stuff, he/she would probably have been much more cautious on his/her assumptions, accusations, behaviour and acts. (Personal attack removed) P.P.S. Btw, one more confirmation of the maxim that, even in, as far as the knowledge of/about religious stuff is concerned, (in comparison) atheists/agnostics rule!!! :D Thanatos|talk|contributions 00:56, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Stop icon This is your last warning. The next time you make personal attacks on other people, as you did at Talk:Sanctus, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. Elizium23 (talk) 02:12, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

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