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:A and doesn't hurt to establish the term's legitimacy. --] 04:28, 25 June 2006 (UTC) :A and doesn't hurt to establish the term's legitimacy. --] 04:28, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

::kizzle, do you have my user contributions bookmarked or something? What's the deal? ] 05:37, 25 June 2006 (UTC)


== RFC == == RFC ==

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Cookie

For you recent boldness at Ashlee Simpson, I give you this cookie.

Donna

Hi, just wondered who's the exquisite woman on this picture: co:Image:TwoWomeninGlassesandBandanas.jpg? (left) --Lumijaguaari 05:05, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Commons:Image:BlackManinVestonCellPhone.jpg

Just noticed that the above picture is missing a license. I coud just go ahead and assume it's GFDL-self, but I've been taught that assuming things is wrong. -- Ranveig 13:46, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Fixed. Pacian 03:54, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Also Image:Monetdupreetina.jpg used on the Drag queen article. It looks like you took this, and it's a great picture. It has a no source tag. Krugs 02:55, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Fixed. Pacian 23:23, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Bree Sharp

Why does that content not belong on that page? Can you point to an establish policy (that's policy, not a suggestion or guideline, or project outline; policy) that states that album information cannot go on the artist's page? I will reinstate the information. We are here to create information, not destroy. Nelson Ricardo 01:33, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

You state on my user talk page "You WILL abide by the third party decision on the matter." You do not know what I will or will not do. If someone provides an "opinion" (notice that it is not a "decision"), I will weigh who the party is. I will not be likely to go along with some random person giving their opinion. I will give greater weight to a member of the Misplaced Pages community who has been voted into a position of responsibility. I really do think that you are making a big deal out of a small issue. A standard is not a policy. Misplaced Pages is very flexible. Nelson Ricardo 03:30, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
I am in complete agreement on one point you made. Please do see to it that our little tiff here is handled by the right persons. Thank you and honestly do have a nice day despite all this. Nelson Ricardo 11:42, 17 November 2005 (UTC)


Pacian, please calm down. I agree that an article about a singer is probably not the right place for track listings. However, you might be the one with bad etiquette. If you agree that some information is fit for inclusion to Misplaced Pages, its wholesale removal for the sake of style seems like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Though the information remains accessible in the page history, it is a very marginal kind of accessibility, and after a few edits will be out of sight (and out of mind) for even the editors. Creating the album pages yourself or at least moving the content to the article's talk page would have been more prudent (and recommended) course of action. Be bold, but be wary of becoming ruthless.

To answer Nelson Ricardo's questions about the third opinion procedure, the third opinion page should contain a very brief summary of the dispute, something like two lines. The discussion leading to the dispute usually takes place at the relevant article's talk page, where the person giving the third opinion also adds his comment. The third opinion procedure was suggested in February 2005, so it's a rather recent invention.

Please try to avoid unnecessary escalation, and prefer to work this out together. If you wish to receive more comments, your best bet is to place a request for comments, or conduct a consensus poll. Explicitly asking an administrator to get involved probably wouldn't help much, since all the additional power the administrators are entrusted with is executive, and the authority they command is that of an experienced editor i.e. not a result of getting elected. Also, to maintain impartiality, many administators choose to ignore such requests. Hope this helps. Aapo Laitinen 21:28, 18 November 2005 (UTC) (a random person)

Sources for Samantha (movie)

Hello, good work on Samantha (movie), and thanks for the contribution. However, you forgot to add any references to the article. Keeping Misplaced Pages accurate and verifiable is very important, and there is currently a push to encourage editors to cite the sources they used when adding content. What websites, books, or other places did you learn the information that you added to Samantha (movie)? Would it be possible for you to mention them in the article? Thank you very much. - SimonP 05:14, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Sprockets has moved to Sprockets (television)

I noticed that your user page has links to the article. You might want to move the link. Cheers Megapixie 07:23, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Image Tagging for Image:AlannaUbach.jpg

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Album infobox problem on Goddess in progress

I played around and discovered that by removing the date information from the previous, this and next albums; the infobox displays correctly.

TheRingess 08:35, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Fall Out Boy

I removed many additions on the page at that time. It would be ludicrous for me to explain each and everyone of them, so I made the blanket statement of "removed excess info." The reason I removed your particular addition was because it really has nothing to do with Fall Out Boy as a band. The excerpt is more appropriate on the page Pete Wentz. Instead of boo hooing to me like a 4 year old about how I was "discourteous" and had "bad ettiquete," I would have appreciated it more if you would have simply asked why I removed your addition. If you want to continue a discussion with me, please refrain from snarky insults. Spuddy 17 04:24, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


This is Bromosh. I know nothing about how to use this forum, and don't care to. The only reason I have associated myself with this site has been to remove unnecessary info about Pete Wentz. As I'm sure you're aware, the page has been under constant change since the debut of the pictures that you seem most keen on keeping tabs on in Wentz's article. Have your way with the article. If you think keeping your sentence on there about the pictures is that important, and important for every one who views the page wanting to know more about Wentz to read, fine.

Peter Wentz

G'day Pacian,

please don't threaten newbies. Bromosh was removing what seems like a dubious comment from an article that has been heavily vandalised; instead of stomping and ranting and raving and making threats (which you cannot back up, and which no admin will help you on), why don't you instead talk to Bromosh, and explain that your edits are perfectly legit and shouldn't be reverted? And please don't shout, either; you'll make yourself hoarse. fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 13:28, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough, and thanks for being so gracious. It looks like you were right about Bromosh's intentions (after all, he broadcast them loudly enough above), and I was wrong. But consider this: the embarrassment I feel at assuming good faith and being wrong is nothing compared to what happens when we assume bad faith and get that wrong ... fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 01:20, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
  • First of all, I am not a "sir." And second of all, you being angry at me is no reason for me to be put on an alleged "vandalism watch". I have in no way vandalised any page on Misplaced Pages, ever. There is no need to give a detailed reason as to why I removed your addition. The information I gave as to why I removed it was adequete enough, you simply just did not like that I removed it. When I removed your addition the second time I stated that a scandal involving a particular band member has nothing to do with the actual band, and that the excerpt is more appropriate on the band member's article, which is your much more detailed reason for removing it. That is NOT vandalism. As for adding the info to the Pete page... I personally could not care if the info is there or not, so no, I was not going to add it. I was going to leave that up to you, the author of the excerpt to add it, since you think it is such a monumental event in Pete's life. I also have a life outside of Misplaced Pages, so I may have had something else to do at the time, so I suggest you not jump to conclusions about people over the Internet.

If you want to debate whether or not the excerpt should be in the article or not with me, you may do so on the Fall Out Boy discussion page. I will not answer or acknowledge anymore of your additions to my discussion page since you are being incredibly rude, condescending, and you have threatened me with the statement "do not push it, sir", as well as telling me you do this or that to the Fall Out Boy page. If you choose to continue to attempt to discuss the matter with me on my user page, I will report you for harrassment. Thank you. Spuddy 17 07:43, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Pete Wentz/Fall Out Boy

First of all, I am not a "sir." And second of all, you being angry at me is no reason for me to be put on an alleged "vandalism watch". I have in no way vandalised any page on Misplaced Pages, ever. There is no need to give a detailed reason as to why I removed your addition. The information I gave as to why I removed it was adequete enough, you simply just did not like that I removed it. When I removed your addition the second time I stated that a scandal involving a particular band member has nothing to do with the actual band, and that the excerpt is more appropriate on the band member's article, which is your much more detailed reason for removing it. That is NOT vandalism. As for adding the info to the Pete page... I personally could not care if the info is there or not, so no, I was not going to add it. I was going to leave that up to you, the author of the excerpt to add it, since you think it is such a monumental event in Pete's life. I also have a life outside of Misplaced Pages, so I may have had something else to do at the time, so I suggest you not jump to conclusions about people over the Internet. If you want to debate whether or not the excerpt should be in the article or not with me, you may do so on the Fall Out Boy discussion page. I will not answer or acknowledge anymore of your additions to my discussion page since you are being incredibly rude, condescending, and you have threatened me with the statement "do not push it, sir", as well as telling me you do this or that to the Fall Out Boy page. If you choose to continue to attempt to discuss the matter with me on my user page, I will report you for harrassment. Thank you. Spuddy 17 07:43, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Tori Amos as Maniac Mansion's Razor Inspiration

Hello, the edit you did in the Maniac Mansion page was interesting (and Razor looks like the Y Kant Tori Read cover), but a source for that information would be very helpful. I investigated briefly, but didn't find anything. Do you remember the source for that information?. Thanks IvanDíaz 14:17, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Alexis Arquette and transgendered persons

I mean no offense here, but I think you may have misunderstood the ACLU page. According to http://www.thetaskforce.org/downloads/nondiscriminationmap.pdf, only eight states and D.C. ban "discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity/expression."

I'm all for transgendered people—for that matter, anyone—being addressed as they wish, but this is not currently guaranteed in the U.S. tregoweth 18:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Invite to join/help organize Misplaced Pages:Wikiproject LGBT studies

Hello. (Sorry for the form letter) In my various travels in Misplaced Pages, I have run across your name as someone who takes an active interest in LGBT articles. This is an invitation to check out a new project: Misplaced Pages:Wikiproject LGBT studies. The initial goal is to create an within Misplaced Pages a unicversity-level academic-quality reference encyclopedia for LGBT and Queer Studies-related topics. The goal is two fold: 1. bring as many as possible up to Featured Article quality, and 2. prove that LGBT-related topics are as academically relevant to WP as other anthropology subsets. - Davodd 22:04, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

No thank you. Pacian 02:23, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Image:Kimfields.jpg

This was a screen shot of Kim Fields portraying Tootsie on Facts of Life. You overwrote it with another image. When you did that, you needed to specify a new license, and a source. Now, it is a problem. I don't wish to tag as "no license" as the original image has a license and source (the TV show). I don't want to cause the original upload to be deleted, because of a problem with a new one. So, would you please provide a source and a license tag? Or, if you can't, then you could revert to the old image. Also, a fairuse rationale would also seem appropriate.--Rob 10:48, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Image:Chewbacca.jpg - any more info?

I came across Image:Chewbacca.jpg, which you uploaded, because it was used on the de: Misplaced Pages article on Chewbacca. I assume you took this photo yourself. Do you have any more details about it, such as: the date it was taken (or even just the year), any information about the man in the costume, or the boy pictured, the camera used, or just any other details. Mainly just asking out of curiosity. An example of an image with such information is: Image:Cincinnati-fifth-third-bank.jpg. Thanks! JesseW, the juggling janitor 22:45, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the details. I knew such information was often not given for uploads, which is why I mentioned I was just asking out of curiosity. In any case, it's interesting. JesseW, the juggling janitor 06:30, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Elizabeth Hess

In response to your statements on the discussion page, I've been working on redirecting all of the names of past national spelling bee champions to the list of winners in Scripps National Spelling Bee. When I first started the Elizabeth Hess article, there was nothing there, so I assumed that Hess the actress was not significant historically. Therefore, I inserted a redirection to the spelling bee article. If you'd like to write the article about the actress, I can add a disambiguation notice at the top of the article. Webdinger 20:26, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Elizabeth Hess

Mindless reflex, I suppose. I ask for references whenever I see a bald assertion. With an actress, I should have just checked IMDB. You're quite right. Sorry. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 02:47, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


Image Tagging Image:Y Kant Tori Read Promo Picture.jpg

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"Bear" Community

Perhaps I'll create an Assorted Arrow community for people that are of varying body types and straight. No I better not; it would 1. be absurd, and 2. be a vanity article because the issue is homosexuality alone, not homosexuality for people that think they look like creatures from the Ursidae family. Wait, maybe if I get a custom flag and domain name it will be considered completely legitimate! Haizum 04:17, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

A category on Google's portal and 16,200 hits for "'bear community' gay" doesn't hurt to establish the term's legitimacy. --kizzle 04:28, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
kizzle, do you have my user contributions bookmarked or something? What's the deal? Haizum 05:37, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

RFC

What you want to do, if there has been renewed inappropriate comportment from User:Haizum is either seek administrator involvement or start a new RFC (name the new /Haizum2 or something alike), not resurrect an old one. Circeus 05:32, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

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