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Revision as of 21:24, 21 September 2004

My Response

I don't have to create an account--I like using my I.P.! You don't like that I happen to enjoy clearing the bullshit out of my page, keeping it tidy? Tough--it's MY page, not yours!

You gotta contact someone specifically? Use your own Talk or User page! You actually think the message will just "end up" getting to the right person?

Feel free to join in, please sign your posts with: ~~~~.

Servers

I think it has to do w finances, and not being a for-profit enterprise. I'd really like to see alot more done as far as fundraising, and the potential is there. They generated several thousands of dollars of donations in a very short span of time last winter, when they had an outage for a couple of days. I'd like to see alot more done regarding fundraising. Glad to have you, Sam 20:04, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Hallo Sol, van harte welkom bij de Engelstalige Misplaced Pages. Zelf ben ik meestal op de Nederlandse te vinden. Veel plezier hier en groeten van Ellywa 13:39, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Levi Stubbs

Just thought you might want to see the VfD vote on him. He's a very important figure in Motown and was the lead singer of The Four Tops. Mike H 02:29, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)

Gmail usernames

Tell you what, I have the account slowpoke (don't use e-mail this user as I use another account for that). Send me an e-mail at the account slow.poke+solitude with the subject test and a random number in the body, and let's see if I get it. I can do the same for you if you have an account and want to test it. Dori | Talk 14:11, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)

I got both your emails, see if you got the one from me. Dori | Talk 16:09, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)

Yup I received it, now I'll email you from a regular email account, maybe that is the critical factor. I tried mailing myself from my student account and that only works to the "dotted" account and not to the "dots and +". -- Solitude 16:14, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

To complete this discussion, me and Dori tested it several times, all the username aliases seem to work, so that section is added back rightfully. -- Solitude 16:39, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Oceanic

POLITE NOTICE:

Please do allow me to conclude my own work before you call in the wikifairies. If the item HMS Oceanic is so in need of cleaning up, perhaps you could give me a few pointers? Faedra 15:56, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for your interest in my work however, I hope you enjoy the finisherd item, and have something to add to it.

All the best. Faedra.

Hi there, I'd suggest shortening in the article and writing it in a more compact style. Currently it reads too much like prose, and not like an encyclopedic article. It was not my intention to call in the wikifairies too quickly, an article on wikipedia is never finished IMHO. May I also suggest the preview button to prevent unwanted editing. -- Solitude 16:03, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Dear Solitude: Thanks for comments. I have made the item as conscise as I can at this time, if you have an interst please go ahead now and see if you can improve it as per your suggestion. I will certainly not take offence. Faedra

Erika Steinbach/Erika of Rumia

I removed the {{merge}} marker. See Talk:Erika Steinbach/Erika of Rumia for details. Halibutt 15:03, Jul 16, 2004 (UTC)

Latorilla

Hello Solitude. I understand your engagement to create a nice wikipedia free of copyright violations. That is also my goal. But your deleting of the contents was too premature. I was still in the process of editing it and the supposed violations were just a guide for the final form of the article. Why this knee-jerk reactions? How can I edit now when you have summarily executed the material? Also the link to the suppossedly violated webpage is broken. I politely ask you to wait for some time before you make summary executions. Latorilla 11:23, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

• I responded on your discussion page on this. When you submit material to the wikipedia, it needs to be copyright free, wether you are in the process of editing or not. You can use the 'show preview' button, or write the article in a text editor on your local pc first. If you really want to upload the article before finishing it, please use the {{inuse}} tage to explicitly let us know that you are working on it right then. The copyrighted URL's were indeed broken, my bad, but I assume you know where you took the content from. Regards. -- Solitude 11:27, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

By the way, you can find the original content back in the history of the copyrighted pages, if you want to rewrite the article, follow the instructions in the copyright boiler plate text. -- Solitude 11:33, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

• Note that the article content is still available in the page history, for one week. However, it will be extremely difficult to remove the "taint" of the original article from the text without doing a full rewrite. Unfortunately. -- David Remahl 11:33, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I can understand all your emotions here. But I also sense the tendency to knee-jerk reactions. As far as I understand, a wiki was developed for constant editing. So why explode after just few minutes of suspecting. Latorilla 11:39, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

• I can sadly sense a certain air of paranoia here. Please show me that it is not true Latorilla 11:42, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Not paranoia Latorilla, it is very easy to spot the copyright violations using Special:Newpages. The sooner copyright violations are found, the sooner they can be removed or rewritten. Don't underestimate the amount of rewriting needed for articles that use a large copyrighted text. -- Solitude 12:01, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

• Thanks for the action. But IMO, the posting was premature. You could have contacted me first and discussed it with me. I am not a crook that must be reported right away to the proper authorities. Anyway, I have not understimated anything. If you still like to check the article of , please do it. I am now going to rewrite the article about the tarsiers. Contrary to your probable suspicion that I cannot write my own articles, I will notify you once the tarsiers article is finished. Plagiarism is one thing, but taking information from one source and using it in another article is not considered plagiarism. As to the images, I will temporarily blank them out until I have sent to wikipedia a solid evidence of copyright permissions because you might "raise" the bars and demand such things. If you like, send me a real email address and I will send you the permissions privately. Your action was honorable and wikipedia needs people like you to maintain high quality. But the fast reaction has almost backfired. Everything around us is a compromise. Latorilla 13:33, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

• If you have time, please look at Philippine_Tarsier or its temporary page. By the way kindly point me to your own full length written articles in wikipedia, I might be able to learn from your editorial style Latorilla 15:22, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

image rights

This issue has been cleared now. I got the permissions to publish the images. The permissions were given to me personally by the original copyright holders Jun Ramos <junram@gsc.weblinq.com> and Gene Boyd Lumawag. Latorilla 09:15, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured_pictures_candidates/Archive-05

Hello Davodd, I noticed your picture promotions in the archive. Could you make sure you include the vote tallies when promoting/demoting, this makes it easier for others like me to verify the procedure. Also, I think you forgot to include promoted images on Misplaced Pages:Featured_pictures_visible. Just wanted to let ya know, keep up the good work, ciao! -- Solitude 09:40, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Doh! Davodd 11:10, Sep 14, 2004 (UTC)

Hi. I didn't have time to promote the picture yesterday, and since Misplaced Pages:featured pictures has run out, there were no already-promoted ones to put in pic of the day, so I took that one knowing that someone would promote it soon enough. I made it 10 support (JediMaster16, Angela, James F., Kbh3rd, Chris 73, Stan, Janderk, Fir0002, Gaz, Neutrality), possibly 11 if you count Markalexander100, which seemed enough, particularly when we have now run out of featured pictures, but if you don't think it's enough, you didn't have to promote it. Angela. 13:06, Sep 14, 2004 (UTC)

FP Archive

Thanks for the feedback on the FP archives (and my sig). I'll see what's up with both. Do you have a specific nomination in mind that was removed? Was it removed recently? (I did add some entries that it seemed Davodd had missed when the nominations were either promoted or not-promoted (wonder if there's a better word for describing not promoting something?). I don't recall intentionally removing anything from the archives, except when I create a new archive, and then hopefully I add the older entries to the new archive, as warranted. And, I just fixed and tested my sig to add the "User:" part, thanks for alerting me to that. - ] 15:06, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I did (intentionally) move two nominations from Archive-04 to Archives-05 some time ago so that the ones using the new format could stay together. - ] 16:40, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Response here. -- Solitude 06:52, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Pic of the day Wednesday

Hi, I was just wondering why you recycled Template:Pic of the day Wednesday to an old image when new ones are available at Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates. Angela. 18:13, Sep 14, 2004 (UTC)

Response here. -- Solitude 06:49, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates

I have replied to your question about the sunset picture. Something is very suspicious here -- I think fir may be trying to falsely claim credit for a picture that is not his. Please read my comments and take a look at the images -- I'd like other people's opinions. Jwrosenzweig 15:30, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Pic of the day

Hi Solitude. Thanks for doing the pic of the day. The only thing I wasn't sure about is the size. Normally the image is 300px. I realised you had taken the 200px size based on the previous Thursday's one, but this had been changed from the standard because the image was very tall and just looked much too big at 300. Anyway, I didn't change it because I've been wondering for a while whether 300 was actually too big, so maybe they should all be 200 now? What do you think?

Regarding the consensus on promoting featured images, it's probably best to ask Bevo or Chris 73 as they maintain the page far more than I do.

The image I recycled that was not the oldest POTD was possibly the oldest POTD for that day since I went back in the history, not from the archive. I'm only guessing.

It's great someone else is taking an interest in updating the POTD. :)

Angela. 12:32, Sep 16, 2004 (UTC)

Response here. -- Solitude 13:20, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Hinayana

I would love to follow your instruction regarding Hinayana, if I could understand what specifically you felt was NOT wikified about it!

Unfortunately the wikify message just tells me about how to put links etc. in.

There are many citations - maybe they are not formatted correctly? I am having to guess! (20040302)

Reply here. -- Solitude 09:59, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Pretty quick! "There is currently no consistent Misplaced Pages citation style, and citations are very poor at the moment." -Misplaced Pages:Cite_your_sources

This is my difficulty- the large portion of the article relies upon citations, (which have no copyright issues). As to encyclopaedic style, - it is something I am hoping for, but am yet to master.

The difficulty with the current article is that it is a heavily contested one, but primarily contested by people with little skill in English, and no idea about citing primary sources. I am struggling to keep the content NPOV, and failing (as I have a POV myself), and I know I have a tendancy to go into an essay-like style.

It would be very useful for you to take an example paragraph and to work it into some form (without changing the meaning) which is acceptable encyclopedic style. As it is, I get lost in the mediawiki manuals, much of which is contradictory.

If you cannot help - maybe you can point a finger towards someone who can? (20040302 10:12, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)) (Name = The date that I registered. 2004-03-02 My nickname is 'Mar 2'!)