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"I can calculate the motion of heavenly bodies, but not the madness of people." Where this user currently is, the time is 19:25, Friday 17 January 2025. This is the user talk page for AGK. You can also send this user an internal email. I have taken 68,260 actions on Misplaced Pages: 54,362 edits, 3,301 deletions, 2,661 blocks, and 7,936 protections. You are welcome to reverse any of them, except if my reason mentioned "checkuser", "arbitration", or "oversight".

• Refining the administrator elections process
• Blocks for promotional activity outside of mainspace

GOCE February blitz wrapup

Guild of Copy Editors Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Blitzes/February 2014 wrap-up Participation: Out of seven people who signed up for this blitz, all copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. Progress report: During the seven-day blitz, we removed 16 articles from the requests queue. Hope to see you at the March drive! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Jonesey95, Miniapolis and Baffle gab1978. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by

Changing image for Template:WikiProject Neuroscience

I feel that since both the Portal:Neuroscience as well as Template:WikiProject Neuroscience bear the same image, and since the latter is a highly-visible template, probably it would be wiser to change the image to something more generic. I have already made a change. Would request you to intervene in this regard. Diptanshu 14:05, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

It isn't clear what precisely you want me to do. Kindly clarify. AGK 15:46, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

FYI

This link says 500. It does not say 1000.Anythingyouwant (talk) 18:33, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

@Anythingyouwant: Thank you for following up. I see now why you thought your evidence could not exceed 500 words. However, the Guide to arbitration states, "submissions are limited to about 1000 words and about 100 diffs for named parties, and to about 500 words and about 50 diffs for all other editors." You were provided a link to that guide when the case opened. Even if you were not, my points (B) and (C) still stand, and if point (A) was my only qualm I would still not allow an appeal raised on it so belatedly. I am afraid I will still be voting to dismiss your appeal. AGK 18:57, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

The manual said "500" back then. I am not raising this issue belatedly; I provided diffs today pointing to where I raised the issue in 2011, I raised it repeatedly, and will go add some more diffs right now. Considering that I raised this issue at least four times back in 2011 at the Arbcom case pages, it might have been nice if someone had, you know, answered. I was not aware that evidence in my own defense could have been presented in unlimited quantities at the evidence talk page (I thought all evidence was subject to the same 500-word limit). In any event, the evidence presented against me by MastCell was certainly over his 500-word limit, and it was on the Evidence page rather than the talk page. As to your point (C), I responded to NYB about how I would edit the articles if allowed to, plus you can look at my user page to see various plaudits. But I do think that the bogus nature of the proceedings in 2011 is relevant to whether the remedy imposed was ever necessary.Anythingyouwant (talk) 19:26, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Mediation

You rejected my mediation request writing that it has the same scope as this one. However, reading the primary issues reported in that request, number 2 is "How should the nationalistic and conduct issues regarding this organization be handled, especially with respect to WP:ARBMAC??". The mediation request guidelines clearly state: "Dispute must not relate to the behaviour of a Misplaced Pages contributor (which is the purview of arbitration, not mediation)." and this issue states explicitly that it regards conduct. My request clearly indicates that it is not about conduct but only about the content. Therefore, the topic of the two requests may be the same, but the scope clearly is not. Heracletus (talk) 15:58, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

American politics arbitration evidence

Your message surprises me, as I don't remember contributing to a recent RFC about this topic area. Would you please link the RFC in question? Nyttend (talk) 04:56, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Same topic, different question. I only became aware of this when I noticed a notice go up on Collect's talk page. I have had similar issues with Collect as some of those mentioned in some of the evidence sections at the Gun politics in the US page. Does this fall under the scope of the case? Is it appropriate to comment or is it just WP:Battlegroundy? I don't much experience with these cases, any info you could offer would be helpful. Thenub314 (talk) 14:37, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

@Thenub314: The scope of the case is described at Misplaced Pages talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American politics/Evidence#scope. Submitting evidence to the committee is part of the official dispute resolution process, and would not be viewed by us as battleground behaviour. AGK 17:34, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

@Nyttend: Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Arzel 2. AGK 17:34, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

You might want to see

User talk:Jimbo Wales#Arbitrator AGK sending harassing email, makes legal threats. Dougweller (talk) 15:48, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying me. AGK 20:35, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi AGK, I started commenting on the thread about this, and now it's difficult to edit because of edit-conflicts. I want to thank you for responding and clarifying on the thread and say that in my view, no action should be taken against you. Regards, Sun Creator 22:49, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

• I don't mean to pile on there, but people ask and I feel compelled to answer in good faith. You and I have never bumped heads that I know of, so I hope you understand that this isn't about you personally AGK, it is about admin in general. My military experience obviously gives me a unique but informed perspective, and that just really hit me on a personal level. It might not be obvious to the average admin, and THAT is why I feel admin shouldn't deal with DOD personnel issues alone. It is a bit more awkward because you are also an Arb and likely know much more about DOD issues than the average admin, but I have to view you as a regular admin like myself in this case. If you can do it alone, any admin can, and that opens a Pandora's box with possible legal ramification for the Foundation in worst case scenarios. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 13:01, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

• @Dennis Brown: Don't worry, I didn't think this was personal for you, and I know you are enquiring in good faith.

  Simply put, actions have consequences. If Kumioko causes someone to file an abuse report, in his case it could have ramifications in real life. I was trying to make Kumioko realise this, as I think he is so wrapped up in his vendetta that he didn't realise until now.

  Imagine that a doctor goes out and gets hammered every weekend, and a policeman on the weekend shift notices this. He might have a quiet word with the doctor, tell him "People expect better of you, and if one of us arrest you it could cost you your job." Is this a threat or a plea for the doctor to stop acting like a teenager? And if a policeman does arrest the doctor, after he fails to heed this warning, is anyone but the doctor to blame? Actions have consequences. Desperately intervening to avert these consequences isn't opening a Pandora's Box. It's the only right thing to do with someone who has so clearly lost it.

  It isn't really in doubt that an abuse report could be filed at any time, by anyone. I probably wouldn't, but I wouldn't condemn an administrator who would. It's routine practice on the internet. But you are getting annoyed at me for trying to limit the damage caused by this inevitability. This is why I don't understand where you're coming from. Thanks, AGK 13:22, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

For You

		The Purple Star
		For being falsely accused of making legal threats. 75* 17:52, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much :-). AGK 20:35, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Alert problem

I'm having trouble driving the alert template. I previewed {{subst:alert|cf}} and noticed that it did not correctly provide X or Y in: "regarding X, a topic ... decision is Y" (Y reads "here", but the link is wrong). In addition, when I posted that template, the edit was not tagged. I posted a TLDR note after the alert; I can't see how that would have influenced the template. My edit was this. Johnuniq (talk) 12:21, 14 May 2014 (UTC)