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For archived investigations, see Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Lagoo sab/Archive.

A long-term abuse case exists at Misplaced Pages:Long-term abuse/Lagoo sab.

20 November 2014

– A checkuser has placed this case on hold pending further information or developments.

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Same Afghan POV, taking content disputes to administrator noticeboards for getting editors blocked with baseless allegations. Calling every one a sock puppet. Looks to be a behavior and pattern match to me. Asking for a CU, and also pinging Magog the Ogre, he has much experience in dealing with this guy in previous SPI (archives). Faizan 15:26, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

• To me only a sock can make his first edit at ANI calling another user as a sock. He brought a content dispute to ANI. He followed his sock-master by calling all users with usernames starting with "Faizan" as my socks. Content dispute be solved at the appropriate talk-pages or dispute resolution or third-party comments. Has some nationalistic Afghan viewpoint and in his last comments at the concerned article's talk, he accused all Pakistanis of terrorism and Pakistan as a terrorist sponsoring state from the point of view of every knowledgeable person. Faizan 17:37, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

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Nice try but I'm not a sockpuppet of anyone, a totally new editor who happens to be interested in some Afghan topics, according to Faizan, everyone who edits an Afghan page is a sockpuppet. I repeatedly told admins in the past at ANI board that my first edits were nominating an unfree image of Mullah Omar which got deleted along with my first edits. You can accuse me all you want but it will show that I'm not abusing multiple accounts or using IPs disruptively. While admin does a CU on me, I request that a CU be done on Faizan and on User:TheSawTooth just to clear things up. These guys are not here to build Misplaced Pages but to fight with anyone who they believe is Afghan or Indian.--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 20:14, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

You and your buddy have asked it before in same Zarb e Azb topic. Will you ask every day now? --TheSawTooth (talk) 20:20, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

He's not my buddy. You can request a CU on me every day, I don't mind it because I don't have any reason to use more than one account. My issue with you two is not using more than one account, it's you being aggressive P.O.V pushers falsifying articles and edit-warring with people who are not Pakistanis. An editor could use more than one account as long as he/she doesn't do what you two are doing, falsifying information and then create a WP:BATTLEGROUND.--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 20:47, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

You said that before as well in your unblock request when you were lagoo sab. --TheSawTooth (talk) 21:18, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Wouldn't you agree that your very first 11 edits are very strange for a new editor? This one suggests that you're in eastern Australia (likely Brisbane), the same place where Saladin1987 (talk · contribs) is editing from (will provide diffs if requested to). You're on the same interesting mission, with TheSawTooth you're wrongly adding "Afghan terrorists" and with Saladin1987 you're removing "Afghan" origins from famous Indian people. You may think that's slickness but it's only childish and very stupid because Misplaced Pages is not the only source. It is giving Pakistani editors an ugly image.--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 22:11, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong in his first edits. Infact he started off just like a new beginner, not on ANI accusing someone of socking like you did. Even if he is in Australia (Whatsoever), when you will abandon your ancient primitive habit of accusing others of socking? Faizan 08:50, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

I didn't ask you. No, per my opinion he started off pretending to be a new beginner. I told you that my first edits were deleted so they were not on ANI. And that guy I reported at ANI (User:StanTheMan87) got himself blocked and then created this new name (User:StanMan87), clearly he's up to something (see also User:StanTheMan) and my report on him was justified due to his strange and aggressive behavior. I was accused of sockpuppeting by his friend (User:DocumentError) but the case was dismissed (Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Irapart/Archive), well, he attempted to see if I was using sockpuppets. You're now accusing me of sockpuppeting so I guess you and every body else making sock accusations are also Lagoo sab? Him being a Pakistani, living in Australia, adding "Afghan terrorists" and removing sourced references to Afghan from famous Indians means that he is disrupting Misplaced Pages and should be blocked. In this case you guys are acting as a gang of aggressive pro-Pakistani P.O.V. pushers falsifying information and then reporting anyone who tries to fix your falsification. I'm confused why admins are turning blind eye on you, maybe they don't want to be involved with Pakistani related topics and I don't blame them on that. Pakistani pages are all a mess.--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 12:29, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

• Look sock of Lagoo sab has same behavior of calling everyone sock puppet on talkpage. Check Krazyhorse's IP with checkuser. --TheSawTooth (talk) 14:00, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
  • You mean the part that talks about User:Mar4d being in Brisbane, Australia, like you and Saladin1987 and abusing multiple accounts? Well, thanks for bringing that here, it advances my suspicion about you abusing multiple accounts. I request that admins also check you and Faizan because I don't feel like starting a new SPI.--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 20:05, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
    • These diffs pertain to one Pakistani editor who is abusively and disruptively using multiple accounts and he connects through Telstra Internet from Brisbane, Australia. (notice the "au" (Australia) at the google book link he posted), it means he's in Australia something most people don't catch. I have a feeling that TheSawTooth is connected to this person. Faizan stated above "Even if he is in Australia (Whatsoever)" and TheSawTooth didn't even try to deny it. He is using one account to remove Afghan references from famous Indians and another account which was created less than a month ago to attack Afghans.--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 20:40, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Krazy horse you are confirming your behavior. One more point:

• "I recommend TheSawTooth be blocked for disruption"
• "I also feel that Faizan be blocked for P.O.V. pushing"
• "I recommend that you and Mar4d be blocked until you reform"

It is the same style of writing of Krazy and Kiftaan. Hence left hand side is equal to right hand side. Thus proved Lagoo sab is puppetmaster of Krazy horse and Kiftaan. ---TheSawTooth (talk) 20:55, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

• Should I write in Chinese language in order not to be suspected as another editor? You know so much about puppet masters. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that almost every Pakistani editor is a puppet master and that includes you. Using more than one screen name is one thing (which is allowed in certain situations), and if I used another name in the past maybe I thought Misplaced Pages was a social network like Facebook but I'm only using one name. That's understandable and many have used more than one name. However, using more than one name to deliberately falsify articles is a clear cut violation. That's what you and Faizan are doing and I can't help but to expose you. It's funny how you were created less than a month ago and you know so much about a blocked editor over one year ago. This alone confirms that you're in fact puppet master.--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 21:02, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Every past action of puppet master is in archive it is not hard. I am new not stupid. :)) ---TheSawTooth (talk) 19:48, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Krzyhorse22, you're a ignorant fool. I don't know why you are still allowed to edit on Misplaced Pages, especially topics relating to Afghan, Indian or Pakistani culture after you declared these people "corrupt", diff here: . Hilarious given that you are mainly editing articles relating to Afghanistan and apart of WikiProject Afghanistan. I asked to be blocked for 3 months on User:StanTheMan87 for my own reasons. I now no longer need the block, but the block still stands, hence why I created this account to circumvent it. I know User:StanTheMan87 is the same person as me. Why do you think I put a disclaimer on this account (User:StanMan87) which states this?... I also have something to add to this discussion. User:Maxforwind randomly appeared on the article Mohammed Omar on the 20th of September , after Krzyhorse22 tried to remove images that I had uploaded to the article, by declaring them to be un-free and copyright violations despite their blatant fair use rationales , . User:Maxforwind removed them off the article citing no reason,, and no activity has been listed on his article after the 25th of September . This is highly suspicious, and no doubt if they are both socks there will be more of these accounts that Krzyhorse22 has employed on other articles to subtly spread his wack POV. StanMan87 (talk) 11:01, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

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•  On hold - This is not an endorsement or decline, just a hold for the time being. Background processes going on. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 17:50, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

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