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List of Byzantine Massacres

The article is highly contentious. First off, what constitutes a massacre? There was no set of international laws or standards in the 6th-13th century that would describe those events as such. It's easy for me to see that these "massacres" in the Byzantine Empire as nothing but riots or battles. If these issues are not addressed properly and if all those "massacres" are indeed contentious, I believe it should be nominated for deletion. Proudbolsahye (talk) 07:50, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

The sources state it as massacre of civilians, please read the sources and definition of massacre.DragonTiger23 (talk) 11:20, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

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September 2013

I got this article to GA, and would like to improve it FA. Also the title "Pre-Turkish Anatolia and Turkish presence prior to 11th century Anatolian Seljuk invasion" is so obviously POV, it's funny (not to mention too long).Cavann (talk) 21:40, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

The article is curently reassesed. The way it got to GA, without the slightest notice, raises serious questions. A peer review can fix that. Also notice that wikipedia needs team spirit and the way you express wp:own and continuously instant revert damages your profile. For example in this case, it would be civilized to explain why this is according to you pov and funny before proceeding to instant revert.Alexikoua (talk) 21:53, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

I do not have the time to explain everything to you or summarize sources to you. If you do not have WP:competence, do not edit this article. First of all, "Turkish" is problematic before 19th century (eg: Kushner, 1997). I guess you did not notice the qualifiers such as "Seljuk Turks," instead of "Turkish people." Second of all "invasion"? Why not "conquest" or "colonization" or "Turkification." Again, my goal is to improve this article, but you are being disruptive, whether intentionally or not, since you seem to have not read one single thing about subject-matter. Start with Kushner, 1997. More informed edits and less edit wars on your part would make editing more cooperative.

You are welcome to request reassessment or peer review, but it seems like you are doing it to push your POV during edit wars, instead of waiting until the article has stabilized, like the Misplaced Pages:Good_article_reassessment page suggests. Cavann (talk) 22:06, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Since you don't have time to discuss your edits, I'm afraid you are violating one of the five basics of wikipedia. By adding pov parts and using sarcastic comments as an excuse isn't a sound strategy. By the way reassessment is something completely diferrent than peer review, but it seems that you don't have the time to check for it either.Alexikoua (talk) 22:12, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

I am discussing my edits. But I do not have the time to summarize sources to you. Cavann (talk) 22:15, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

I mean on the talk page. Especially multiple reverts need to be explained, as part of an ongoing content dispute. For example here, why Anatolia prior to the arrival of Turkish tribes (i.e. 11th c.), can't be labelled as pre-Turkish Anatolia.Alexikoua (talk) 22:24, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Then you are creating a subsection for one paragraph. I already explained that so many times. I already said Turkish is problematic before 19th century. And Anatolia did not become Turkish overnight after 11th century. "Before Seljuk incursions", or "Before Battle of Manzkiert" would be more accurate, but again, its a small paragraph for its own section, even tho I'm gonna expand it with few more sentences. Cavann (talk) 22:31, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Turkish people are problematic before 19th century? Seems you don't believe that even yourself since you extented that period back to the Bronze Age. By the way, because the article is about the Turkish people, the term pre-Turkish is essential. Both Slejuk incursions and Battle of Manzikert are wrong, since, according to what you claim... Anatolia did not become Turkish overnight and Seljuks weren't the only Turkic tribes settled in Anatolia in the 11th century. To sum up "Pre Turkish period" Anatolia is important to be clearly termed as such when we talk about the pre-11th century history of the region.Alexikoua (talk) 22:48, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Just cause they are mentioned does not mean they are 100% Turkish in the modern sense. French people mentions Celts and Gauls (French_people#Celtic_and_Roman_Gaul). Does not necessarily mean Celts and Gauls are French. Or just cause British_people#Ancestral_roots mentions paleolithic people there, does not necessarily mean those people were British. It's there cause it's relevant to subject-matter. Cavann (talk) 22:59, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Why are French/British relevant with the Turks? Look at the Germans... no word about pre-Germanic tribes, same stuff about Russians, Serbs, no pre-Slavic scenarios, Albanians the same, etc etc.Alexikoua (talk) 23:16, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Off course, France before the arrival of the Franks, was pre-Frankish, same with Britain (pre-Norman, or Saxon). Why not a pre-Turkish (Turkic) Anatolia?Alexikoua (talk) 23:20, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Go change British_people#Ancestral_roots to "pre-British" then if that makes sense to you. It is just as nonsensical as your title to me.Cavann (talk) 23:24, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Did I said that? Nope, I said pre-Norman, pre-Saxon Britain, same as pre-Turkish in Anatolia (a region before the arrival of a specific population).Alexikoua (talk) 23:35, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

It is easy to revert things.

Hi,
can you explain why you removed the Albanian version of Zappas name? What does bother you about it?
Mondiad (talk) 16:05, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

It's not relevant with the specific biography, a Romanian name will be ok since he lived in Romania. But since you added an Albanian name on Zappas recently you need to explain the reasion for this.Alexikoua (talk) 20:10, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Hmmm. Doesn't look like. First, the village where he was born is in Albania. Second, he is respected a lot in the region, and his monument is there. Third, he contributed in building churches and schools in the are, some of them are still there. Fourth, his kin still lives in Lobovo area and they bear the last name Zhapa. Some of them fell in WW2 and are communist heroes. Fifth, regardless of some might think, he is not unknown in Albania. There is an recent official request from Lunxheri region organization to the president of Albania to to give him honorific title for the contributions given.

And even if you take good care of the articles, you are not the owner of them. You can easily send a message before reverting other people's work.Mondiad (talk) 20:11, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Actually in wikipedia we have some rules, one of them is wp:or. This means what you claim should be fist supported be neutral reliable widely accepted material. According to references already present in the article: 1. He was born an ethnic Greek in Ottoman Empire, 2. Off course he is respected in his region as well as among the Greeks in Greece, 3. He contributed to the establishment of Greek churches and Greek Orthodox Churches, Institutions for the benefit of the Greek state and the Greek communities in the Ottoman Empire (i.e. his region too), 4. The Zappas foundation, established by himself in Athens has taken action to protect his personal property today, however the Albanian authorities raise multiple issues to prevent that, 5. His testament doesn't even mention the word 'Albanian' or a similar word. Also his tombstone in Labovo isn't written in Albanian but in Greek (it lies broken next to the village center).

On the other hand he was quite stubborn Greek patriot (based on his writings). The only fact that historically links him with Albanian people could be that he was arrested by Ali Pasha's troops, before the Greek War of Independence.

But suppose you know all that, since this is inside the article.Alexikoua (talk) 21:11, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

All the tombs of that period, not only in Labovo but throughout Albania for people with Orthodox religion were written in Greek. As by a Sultan Law, sponsored by Greek Church, any writing in Albanian language was a felony. See what happened to Koto Hoxhi, Pandeli Sotiri, Kristo Negovani, Stath Melani, Petro Luarasi, etc. This does not have anything to do with the fact that his people are still living in Labovo with the last name Zhapa and not Zappas. Go and ask them what nationality they are. Ali Pasha was an Ottoman Pasha, he presented the Empire adinistration, not any Albanian state, neither Albanian people.

And I don't care if he claimed himself Greek. Armenian, or Bengali, everyone can claim himself as he likes. This does not have anything to do with the Albanian version of his name. Vangjel Dule is Greek, even his last name is not.

Misplaced Pages should provide as much info as possible, this is not an arena where you can try to poison the article with as much Greek propaganda as you can. But I suppose you know that, you spend so much time on Misplaced Pages.

Lunxhëri -recent changes

I don't like reverting the work of the others, and I did not revert your changes, but each one should show some respect for the work of the others, and each one that wants to make changes can happily read the references first and read the article after he changes something.

• First, the short sentences that resulted after your edit do not fit any kind of journalistic standard, and some really odd in English. Its like translating something without adjusting or revising it.
• Second, the sentence you added does not have any added value. "...most of the population spoke Albanian..." - does not mean anything. All the population spoke Albanian, this does not mean they had Albanian national conscience, as well as all the schools and church services were only in Greek, so many of them spoke Greek, this does not mean they had Greek national conscience.

Just don't rush when you make changes, take time to read the article after you change it.
Mondiad (talk) 00:10, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

The citation you used claims that most of the local women that period spoke Albanian, so I rephrased it and concluded that most the population spoke Albanian (adjusting the initial part). But I will take a second look at this paper of De_Rapper.Alexikoua (talk) 13:00, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I've already checked the entire document and I have the feeling that a couple of correction are needed, concerning the social status of the region.Alexikoua (talk) 14:49, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Misinterpretetion of a map

Hi, check the map of Thrace, Thracians and Thracian state again, please. There are several mistakes I have read by your interpretation about the location from the following areas|rivers: Eastern Thrace, Halkidiki, Pella, coastal strip of the Aegean sea, Axios, Haliacmon etc. Please, use the maps carefully and read the legend before any interpretations. Thank you. File:Tracian state.png Jingiby (talk) 18:18, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Look at the borders of Odrysae's state on another map here, please. Jingiby (talk) 18:57, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

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The source for the movements in this map is a self-published book by an author for whom no credentials can be found. There's an earlier discussion at Talk:Bronze Age collapse. I've removed it from the articles. Sorry, but I can't see anyway we can use a self-published work by someone who is not a recognised expert for this. Dougweller (talk) 12:28, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Why self-published? The publisher of this book Oxford atlas of world history, is the Oxford University Press. I don't see any problem with the specific publishing house, on the contrary, it seems fine (...Oxford's Atlas of World History is the result of more than three years' intensive work by a specialist team of academics, editors, and cartographers...).

By the way I don't see any previous discussion at Talk:Bronze Age collapse, related with the specific publishing house.Alexikoua (talk) 12:48, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

It seems that the source is indeed one of the best we can have in the field of historical chartography, the general editor Patrick K. O'Brien, is an expert on the field (Uni. London, hist.dpt.).Alexikoua (talk) 12:57, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

I've removed the dubious source (iUniversity, M.Robbins) which I used as additional material. Nevertheless, all data is already taken from Oxford Atlas, in page 35.Alexikoua (talk) 13:04, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

But if you used Robbins as a source, what have you changed on the map? Dougweller (talk) 13:14, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

I've added Robbins as an additional source, but unfortunatelly I didn't checked him in every detail and in fact just by searching some details about the Fall of Troy and the Hittite Empire it even contradict Oxford's Atlas map itself.

So, it appears I was wrong about Robins. Thanks for the notice because this work started to confuse me a lot.Alexikoua (talk) 13:27, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Tag removal

Can you remove the tag you added since you put it without reading Yardumian et al., and I posted a lengthy quote to article talk page as a courtesy? Also your claim of "since it contradicts mainstream bibliography" seems to be unsubstantiated, since Cavalli-Sforza cannot be more mainstream (and quotes from that source had already been provided). Please utilize talk page discussions before putting false tags. Thanks... Cavann 20:35, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Sure, but the sentence needs to be adjusted per quote you added, i.e. Indoeuropean populations should be also included, since they arrived after the neolitic in Anatolia. The present version ignores this population group.Alexikoua (talk) 21:00, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Proto-Indo-Europeans arrived in late paleolithic or early neolithic and indo-europeans come from that. This is my point with false tags. You tag without reading the source, or understanding the source. This is disruptive. Also, Indo-Europeans are not even in the text you tagged: "The area now called Turkey has been inhabited since the paleolithic, including various Ancient Anatolian civilizations during the neolithic period and peoples of Thrace. Modern Turkish people descend from these indigenous groups," Cavann 21:12, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

I don't thing that when a quote is needed this is disruptive, actually you have been instructed to provide such data. By the way your tone continues to be aggresive with a complete lack of wp:agf.Alexikoua (talk) 21:23, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

There is already a giant quote Turkish_people#cnote_k. Cavann 21:25, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

You should insert the quote inside cite:journal. As you have been already advised, more than once, there is a quote field. If this field is empty do not wonder why a qn will be placed nearby.Alexikoua (talk) 13:36, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

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Ottoman postcards

Dear Alexikoua I am a producer based in Boston and I am working on a film about Ottoman Palestine. I think you might have uploaded some postcards from the Young Turk Revolution on some wiki pages and I am interested in acquiring high resolution scans of some of them from you or from the owner. I believe they are all public domain, but the quality from the wiki page is too low. I would appreciate if you could get back to me about this and I can email you the images Im interested in. Thank you and all the best elisha@blpi.tv

Disruptive edit??

What is disruptive about my edit please? My edit is a fair summary about what has been discovered on the issue so far, and what reflects the actual state of things in view of Albanian vocabulary. The content of the section in question, as it is at the present state, is misleading to say at least, and does not give an accurate picture of modern Albanian lexicon. Do you delete also referenced material? Based on what? thank you Etimo (talk) 13:05, 14 December 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Etimo (talk • contribs)

What you added is completely unsourced and had to be removed. I suggest you present the relevant bibliography with the appropriate explanations in the correspodent talkpage.Alexikoua (talk) 19:08, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, you removed everything from my edit, even the sourced part (did you check?). Secondly, my edit is a simple conclusion drawn by taking into account what has been written by scholars so far on the issue compared with what Albanian vocabulary displays. It is a common practice on Misplaced Pages you can observe in every article (i.e. not every article line in Wiki has a quote). I wasn't quoting directly this or that author, I'm simply summarizing a thought, what is the current state of knowledge considering everything that's been said and written on the issue. Every people can check in an Albanian dictionary whether it is true or not. No scholar has ever stated that Albanian glossary for sea and navigation is completely inexistent, simply because that would be embarrassing. It is relatively poorer because (as it is maintained by most serious scholars) Proto-Albanians were forced to live in the hinterland drawn away from the coasts by Latin invasion. This is something backed also by Albanian toponymy. The article, as it is now, gives a deviating impression as if a 'mountainous' or 'nordic' origin of Albanians is a 100% solved and closed issue, while nothing certain can be said or has ever been said to be definitive. Orel, for instance, maintains an inland origin but he cannot avoid to state that Albanian-Greek isoglosses are, quote: 'surprisingly high, which can be probably explained by intense secondary contacts of two proto-dialects' (A Concise Historical Grammar of the Albanian language, V.Orel, Koninklijke Brill, Leiden Boston Köln 2000, p.258), something you inexplicably decided to delete!! So just for clearness sake, what kind of proof is good and what is not? Am I allowed only to insert direct quotes from authors or can I also write based on scholar research without constantly quoting this or that author? thanks Etimo (talk) 20:43, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Some of the unsourced text you added seems completely out of the historical context of the article: Proto-Albanians were pushed away from coastal areas in early times (probably after the Latin conquest of the region). Orel's work is a reconstruction attempt by a non-attested language (proto-Albanian). This can be briefly mentioned, provided it's properly cited.Alexikoua (talk) 22:10, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Why is it 'completely out of historical context', what do you mean exactly by that? I think it's pretty much relevant. No Proto-language is an attested language, as they are ALL reconstructed, and Orel specifically points to 'intense contacts between Greek and Albanian', as the vocabulary clearly shows. Linguistic contacts or isoglosses are something which can be proven without misunderstandings. I will rewrite my edit on the Latin influence part with proper quotations, but It still puzzles me why you don't accept Orel's direct quotation!!! thanks Etimo (talk) 12:11, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

I've said it can be briefly mentioned, but the fully unsourced part can't.Alexikoua (talk) 12:37, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

I've got that part, I don't understand your problem with Orel's quotation!! Etimo (talk) 23:31, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

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The reason I failed the article is because the issues are extensive and comprehensive enough that it would require major rewrites throughout the majority of the article. If I saw it likely that the article could be fixed within a week, I'd have put it on hold. However, I like to consider myself reasonable. So, if you were honest, would you prefer me to open it up again so you could make the necessary addendums? DARTHBOTTO _talk•cont 19:27, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

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Hhm

Ill double check. I didn't edit anything on AM, and only modified parts on Roman & medieval history of modern Macedonians. But thanks for the heads up AlexiaSlovenski Volk (talk)

Hhm

Ill double check. I didn't edit anything on AM, and only modified parts on Roman & medieval history of modern Macedonians. But thanks for the heads up Slovenski Volk (talk) 21:54, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

well, actually, early Byzantine is still the "Roman" period. Granted, I also added that Armenians and others were settled also in northern Macedonia in later periods, but I seriously don't think this is controversial or objectionable by any parties . Anyhow I ll keep an eye on it , AlexiSlovenski Volk (talk) 00:31, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

And why did you revert my edit to Peloponesse ? The Peloponesse (to my knowledge) hat has nothing to do with Arbmac, nor Macedonians in any meaning of the word ("other articles on Greece not related to said dispute are fine"), and in anyway I added that whatever Slavic migrations occurred were of a later date, less intense, Christianity continued to flourish, & Greek spoken etc , etc. (perhaps, counter what you might expect a Yugoslav to write!). So i reverted back your blind revert Slovenski Volk (talk) 08:18, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

You should read wp:ARBMAC, before initiating another endless edit-war i.e. Topics related to the Balkans, broadly interpreted. In case you continue ignoring this you leave me no choice to go straight to wp:ae. By the way Slavic invasion in Morea occured in 6th-10th century AD, this isn't even early Byzantine period (not to think about to name it "Roman")...Alexikoua (talk) 11:39, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

"before initiating another endless edit-war "- You must be hallucinating- It was resolved amicably; so how is it endless ? And, again, for your information the admins stated clearly "other articles on Greece not related to said dispute are fine". You should be showing gratitude for my impoving the Pelopnoesse article, not paranoia. Have nice day Slovenski Volk (talk) 03:31, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Waw, you just rendered arbmac completely useless... That's the restriction you should respect ] (the naming dispute is only a tiny part of your restriction). Please do not falsify admins comment again.Alexikoua (talk) 09:27, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Just take a step back and be fair. The Illyrians have nothing to do with ARbmac, and fall between the palaeolithic and Roman era. If you want to keep your map, then you should update it to include some missing southern illyrians tribes, eg Dardani. And why are you 'threatened' ny me making good faith edits to Illyrians ? I can reassure you Im not making any claims that Maceodnians or Epirotes were really "Illyrians", so relax. Slovenski Volk (talk) 09:24, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Suppose you are still kidding me. What can you understand under the term 'pre-Roman period'? Off course its neither Roman nor Prehistory. By the way you are not the first user who under ARBMAC can't edit the Illyrians. In fact all ARBMAC banned users are prohibited to edit in this field. So far you are the first who can't understand what's ARBMAC.Alexikoua (talk)

Myzeqe

Thank you Alexikoua. Σας εύχομαι ευτυχισμένο το νέο έτος!

I noticed myself that Molossians don't live in this region and I know that Muzaka is primary non-wp:rs material. I thought that there might be some basis for Muzaka's claim so I added it carefully attributing this assertion to Muzaka and emphasizing he is not very reliable source. I was obviously wrong. Thanks for your input.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:24, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry if I was wrong with Greek language greeting. I don't speak Greek. Is this message actually Greek language message? It reminds me of messages frequently written by one editor. Antother editor who pointed to him as his previous accounts has similar userpage as this editor.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 10:12, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Off course not, the greetings' fine. The message you point translates in "thank you very much" in bad Greek, and is placed below the text which informs the community about his past. As far as I know Sulmues&socks didn't post anything in Greek.Alexikoua (talk) 13:49, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

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Hi! I see that an image has been removed as being irrelevant. The image comes from the original Turkish article, and refers to the related time period, so I want to ask about this. Massacres against Turks in the Balkans during the Dissolution of the Ottoman Empire The reason I ask is that the person that added it is a newcomer, and expressed a desire for the original article in turkish to be translated into english. I do not understand the turkish, but I promised to help clear up misunderstandings and such , if he would do the translation and transfer. I do appreciate that the image seems out of place with current small text, but I am hoping that the newcomer will make it grown. On a side-note: If the image is irrelevant and to be deleted from this article, should you not also delete that same image from the original article?

Also, for this to be clear to the newcomer, perhaps you could explain this clearly on the talk page of the article? This way, the person that added the image will get a clearer picture of what is happening, and how best for him to proceed with the article. This is to encourage him to continue to contribute. Star Lord - 星王 (talk) 15:43, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt and detailed reply, and for your offer to have a look at how the article might be improved. I appreciate it. Please let me know if there is an editor problem. Star Lord - 星王 (talk) 17:17, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

I have now read a text which indicates that the text will not, after all, be translated from Turkish. Since I cannot translate it myself, I am sorry that I started an article that I can not really take responsibility for alone, due to lack of knowledge in the subject. I still feebly hope against hope that the article was not totally in vain, but please do with it as you will. If there is anything you think I can do to clean up the mess, please tell me. Star Lord - 星王 (talk) 15:56, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

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Regarding Fan noli

Please stop reverting things that you have no idea of . The source is showing exactly the name i wrote .... ! Next time do check , before changing . It can be that simple , although i know that your reverts are nationalistically motivated .

The source that you claimed and changed my revert > http://www.archontology.org/nations/albania/00_1918_1925_s.php

The footnote of the source( copy pasted ) for ur convenience > Absent from the national territory (2 Jul 1924 - before 13 Nov 1924) and represented in Albania by mitropolit Theofan Stilian Noli (also known as Fan Noli)

Any further revert will be forwarded to the relevant mods . I promise you . Have a nice day — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.234.170.170 (talk) 17:59, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

You are welcome to present a decent argument in the correspodent talkpage.Alexikoua (talk) 13:21, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

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No problem. Thank you. Happy editing. :) --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 12:31, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Neutral speech

Althou wp is not a forum, per neutral speach that is needed to be used on talk pages, I, of course do not imply that Omonoia and Golden Down are the same thing. Actualy, by debating with you that omonia is not irredentist I proved it. Of course you should know that PDIU and KPR have nothing to do with irredentism and extremism, they are both advocating for the Cham Issue as a human rights issue and not a territorial one. So, in my understanding, Omonoia to your point of view is closer to gd (it is irredentist per our debatw on active orredentist movements), while regarding PDIU and Chams in general, I see a prejudication towards an entire population unfortunately, which makes them actualy the opposite of gd. We should refrain using such terms to normal political parties and organizations on wiki.Balkanian`s word (talk) 06:24, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

The way you support the G.D. counterpart in Albania that openly declares that "all Albanians have to work for their national ideal which is the unification of Albanians from Preveza to..." ], leaves me no choices but to kindly ask you to read wp:what wikipedia is not. On the other hand, when a minority organization asks for local autonomy and human rights thats not irredentism, i.e. change of national borders.Alexikoua (talk) 10:00, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Under this definition, whoever speaks of irredentist territories is G.D. affiliate. Good luck with definitions that include Omonoia and some of your edits on WP. On the other hand you just saw, some young persons citing primary sources, such as Encyclopedia Brittanica, by saying that historically, Ioannina was the capital of Southern Albania. As for current politics, JUIP has a program, which seeks removal of borders form all countries that have Albanians. It is really disgusting to call counterpart of GD whatever you dislike. I, would never go that low, to characterize Omonia for example GD. Oops, you did that.Balkanian`s word (talk) 14:05, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Assembly of Delvino

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Turks Western Thrace

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DYK for Matthaios Kofidis

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User:Akocsg appears to have a distinct animosity against Persians and Greeks. --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:46, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

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Dear Alexikoua

You can take the burden and go to Labovë to ask people there if they are Albanians or Greek ! I personally know people with Labova ancestry and most of them are Albanians , some are Vllah's , none is Greek !! But what do you know ? You mention as "Greeks" the "Arvanites" which in your own language means "Albanian"

I don't think we will agree on any issue regarding the Albanians in your " Greek " history , so Adieu ...

Engjell.mehmeti (talk) 13:00, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Nikos Kapetanidis

Is it possible for you to provide the exact quote, according to which "Nikos Kapetanidis was hanged by Turkish nationalists under Mustafa Kemal"? Thank you. Parishan (talk) 22:16, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Sure, I forgot to add the precise page on the reference, but now it appears ok. Added an additional that links directly Mustafa Kemal with the Amaseia Tribunal.Alexikoua (talk) 22:48, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

What.s the problem with Sami Frashëri?

He had no bias against the Greeks at the time? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.239.27.227 (talk) 18:30, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

You need to follow wp:rs. S.F. was a representative of the Albanian national movement (suppose you know that), this means his neutrality is disputed. The same stuff occurs on their Greek counterparts. I suggest you use secondary & academic level material instead of outdated national decelerations.Alexikoua (talk) 18:39, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Although it was written by Naim Frashëri, it was quoted and expanded on by Robert Elsie, a Canadian with no ties to Albania other than the studies he's done on the people, so he isn't biased. Perhaps if I also mention him, it's okay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.239.27.227 (talk) 18:54, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Elsie doesn't agree with Frasheri's view (either Sami or Naim), that's why he specifies that this view is only shared by F.. On the other hand, neutral views are generally preferred.Alexikoua (talk) 18:59, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Elsie didn't specify that, he did specify that he is quoting Sami Frashëri however. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.239.27.227 (talk) 19:15, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

It's even worst: Elsie presents Frasheri's work, without adopting any view about it. I can only assume that you didn't read this work. Also note that blind-reverting can lead to blocks.Alexikoua (talk) 19:31, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Elsie himself refers to the Janina Vilayet (all of it, not just the north) as an Albanian Land. I have read it. I did read it, I don't know what you're talking about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.239.27.227 (talk) 19:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

You need to give the right citation. However, taking into account that so far, you falsified Elsie I would suggest you present the data first in the correspondent talkpage instead of revert-warring.Alexikoua (talk) 19:46, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

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Thx

I removed too much by mistake when I removed the maps. Sorry, and thanks for correcting! --T*U (talk) 11:07, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Skanderbeg

Hi,

Thanks for your message. I think that this is probably the case for SPI. Using outdated unreliable sources to push nationalistic mythology is not constructive.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 12:24, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

my edits // population exchange greece/turkey

Hi, my edits on population exchange between greece and turkey are correct. I have read the book I sourced in the edit summary of the edit history. There is some NPOV and misinformation favoring Greece. I hope you agree the article must be neutral. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.66.226.95 (talk) 14:52, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

I don't thing so, you need to explain in the talkpage the reason of such massive removals of sourced content.Alexikoua (talk) 20:45, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

OK I shall do so in future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.66.226.95 (talk) 10:38, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

I suggest you avoid reverting and start a discussion in the correspondent talkpage. I'm afraid that large scale deletion of sourced material needs strong arguments.Alexikoua (talk) 13:14, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

You are one step before being reported. By the way writing nonsense in talkpage isn't enough to justify disruption. Without reaching concensus your version will be reverted.Alexikoua (talk) 17:57, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Greek source

Have you seen this edit? Since I do not read Greek, I thought you might be able to clarify a few points. --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:24, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice, I'll take a look on the specific volumes.Alexikoua (talk) 06:26, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

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Revert

Hi, I'm wondering why you reverted me here. I'm not sure what you mean with the edit summary. 31.153.94.183 (talk) 23:17, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Help with Greek sources

Hi, I am need of some help with Greek texts introduced by a POV warrior to a number of Bulgaria-related articles. I would really appreciate some help in dealing with the matter. Take the article about Todor Panitsa, for example. The editor introduced a number of Greek sources, which I have no way of verifying or even reading. Are they reliable sources? Do they support the claims made by the editor? I genuinely have no idea. If you have the time, could you look at them? I would appreciate any input on the matter. Thanks in advance. --Laveol 07:08, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Anti-Greek sentiment

Hello there! I've just created this article and wanted to let you know about it. If you can help to improve it, please do. There's probably a lot of information missing. Does Albania, for example, have a history of anti-Greek sentiment? The section of Turkey can easily be expanded, too. --Երևանցի 04:58, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Very good job. Definitely an article that needs to be in wikipedia. For sure it can be easily expanded (there is also the antiquity etc.). As soon as I have time I'll work on it.Alexikoua (talk) 20:30, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Usourced flag

I agree with you. No sources - no image. This file should be deleted at commons.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 18:02, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

You are of course right. This artistic product of wikipedia editor should not be added to any article, including historical ones, regardless if it is deleted at commons or not.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:27, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Map of Greek dialects

Hi Alexi. Please see this. Δρ.Κ.  07:01, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello, hope all is well. Info on Marko Boçari

Hello. My name is Erion. I'm an American trying to do a research paper for my college regarding The Souliots and Marko Boçari, in early Balkans-war agains the Ottoman Empire. I just have one question: were the Souliots and Marko Boçari, Greek or Albanian? Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erioni313 (talk • contribs) 19:06, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Labs in Greece

Hi,

I created a draft about Labs (link) and noticed that this map (link) is based on this map (link). I don't know if this map created by anonymous author (link) is reliably sourced, but I am also concerned if it is properly interpreted, especially when it comes to territory predominantly populated by Lab speakers in Greece. What do you think?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 10:56, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

SOS =

! am new to this, and I see your one of the heads of the WW1 project. I myself have fanaticized over WW1, and would like to help with the development of this project. I ask if you could contact me a mvmeli0216@gmail.com to set me up. I would like to know exactly what to do, since their is no help manual that explains this comprehensively. I would appreciate it if you could help me set up my user page so I can get used to working with forum/html coding hybrid style going on here.

Thank you, and god-speed to you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luke Skywalker01 (talk • contribs) 00:16, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Emblem of Dardanian Kingdom

Hey what's wrong with you? you say that it is unsourced?! are you blind or something? lookup here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/search/?title=File:Pavao_Ritter_Vitezovic_-_Stemmatographia.pdf&page=28 this is the source from the book Stemmatographia by Pavao Ritter Vitezovic. AceDouble (talk) 17:15, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

This is irrelevant with the ancient Dardani, unless there is any evidence that these symbols were used in antiquity for the specific purpose.Alexikoua (talk) 20:48, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Ditto.--Zoupan 19:30, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Explanation

Hello,

To me, the sole fact that you revert large, multiple edits based on single petty reasons to delete everything with things like "there was no Persian era in Greece" (even though Macedonia, Thrace and many Greek islands were ruled, and the Greco-Persian Wars itself are an era of history in Greek history) or "disruptive IP edits", "bring it to the talk page", or sometimes even without a single reason, even though the edits were sourced, show how apparently biased you are.

Instead of making the right approach, which could be by leaving a message about corrections or adjustments you had in mind on my talk page, or correcting that minor thing which you don't think is correct on the page itself by yourself, you just instantly revert everything instead. Not once. Not on one article. No, multiple times. Sorry, but this is highly disruptive. (and now with a real reason unlike you who labels everything as disruptive)

You're the one, as we can see, who is challenging my edits for petty reasons, therefore it's you who should have to take such actions as I mentioned. Especially, if the edit description brings up reasons pointing out very minor things (e.g incorrect title, you serious?...) in a far larger edit.

If you think you aren't able to do that, I will take it to WP:ANI, as I'm quite entirely sure you're just reverting everything based on WP:JDL (in fact you're sniping all my edits on solely Greek related articles and reverting literally everything, jeez what a coincidence?) Anyhow, ANI saves much effort that way as well. (and time) Though I don't think this should be needed as of yet.

So, I'm curious to hear your response. If you could just discuss with me what precisely you don't think is correct/appropriate/etc, we can work that out instead of extremely annoying and disruptive reverting of huge amounts of sourced texts which you have been doing so far.

I mean seriously, ridiculous in every sense of the word; ], ], ], ].

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