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The article in its current form makes it appear as if Melkin was an actual historical figure, or at least thought to have possibly been one. However, according to all mainstream academic sources I've seen, it is universally agreed that he is purely legendary and that his "prophecy" was a medieval hoax. Both his name and his prophecy appear in the written record only in ]'s ''Cronica'' from the mid-14th century, and it is commonly assumed that John simply made him up. The article in its current form makes it appear as if Melkin was an actual historical figure, or at least thought to have possibly been one. However, according to all mainstream academic sources I've seen, it is universally agreed that he is purely legendary and that his "prophecy" was a medieval hoax. Both his name and his prophecy appear in the written record only in ]'s ''Cronica'' from the mid-14th century, and it is commonly assumed that John simply made him up.


The position currently referenced to "Griffin 2012", who seems to be trying to argue for an actual historical Melkin, is a ] position from an amateur grail seeker (the topic area of legends associated with Glastonbury unfortunately still attracts that kind of pseudohistorical speculation among modern amateurs.) For all I can see, this has absolutely nothing to do with reliable scholarship on this figure. ] ] 20:52, 17 April 2015 (UTC) The position currently referenced to "Griffin 2012", who seems to be trying to argue for an actual historical Melkin, is a ] position from an amateur grail seeker (the topic area of legends associated with Glastonbury unfortunately still attracts that kind of pseudohistorical speculation among modern amateurs.) For all I can see, this has absolutely nothing to do with reliable scholarship on this figure. ] ] 20:52, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

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Disputed

The article in its current form makes it appear as if Melkin was an actual historical figure, or at least thought to have possibly been one. However, according to all mainstream academic sources I've seen, it is universally agreed that he is purely legendary and that his "prophecy" was a medieval hoax. Both his name and his prophecy appear in the written record only in John of Glastonbury's Cronica from the mid-14th century, and it is commonly assumed that John simply made him up.

The position currently referenced to "Griffin 2012", who seems to be trying to argue for an actual historical Melkin, is a WP:FRINGE position from an amateur grail seeker (the topic area of legends associated with Glastonbury unfortunately still attracts that kind of pseudohistorical speculation among modern amateurs.) For all I can see, this has absolutely nothing to do with reliable scholarship on this figure. Fut.Perf. 20:52, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

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