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merge from "Patch (emo)"

I merged in a line from Patch (emo) (now redirected here). Can someone verify that the line is actually correct , as I don't know much at all about the fashion/culture to know myself! -- Chuq 22:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Even if that term is used, it's not commonly used (and the statement is unsourced). An "emo patch" is generally something you attach to your backpack or messenger bag. -- ChrisB 04:43, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that Chris, looks like its a neologism by the creator of Patch (emo). I'll mark it (the patch redirect) for deletion. -- Chuq 07:04, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

can we possibly get a better picture of what an emo looks like, just having a caricature makes it seem as though it can only be bad to be an emo, or be associated with emo culture.--Fabio 19:02, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Emo kids don't get their pictures taken. The bright light causes them great pain and photographs prove the emo person to actually exist, something to fight to make sure people don't know. H2P 07:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

agree with Fabio about needing a photograph. From where I come from the image given bares little resemblance to what an emo looks like, and there are pictures of people of an emo fashion (lets not get nasty about this H2P) Woodgreener 22:45, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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This wiki doesn't really get it. In my opinion its pretty poor that the opening paragraph doesn't mention the cultural stereotype of an 'emo' person, considering that this article is called Emo - slang. Its about being melodramatic and being irrationaly depressed or suicidal for attention.

Yes, that's true. But the people who give this article the most attention want it to flatter themselves. Mentioning the stereotype doesn't fit this scheme, so they emphasise more positive details instead. Although the 'emo' tag does strongly connote this stereotype, emos prefer descriptions of themselves to flatter them. Rintrah 11:41, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Wow, that's genius. We can't have an NPOV article without trashing the crap out of the subject? Visit Goth and see how they've handled it. Articles aren't here to mock or judge. They're here to explain the subject in realistic terms.

And if you care, I wrote a large percentage of what's here, and I'm in no way affiliated with anything that's currently "emo". I'm not trying to "flatter" anything; I'm simply trying to adhere to Misplaced Pages's guidelines. -- ChrisB 16:57, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

what a load of crap, panic! at the disco aren't considered emo --Nickybutt23 06:11, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

It is my opinion that generally when you call someone emo they take it as a putdown, and it generally used as a putdown. I have never seen anyone ever calling someone emo in a nice way, or anyone take it in a nice way. I see no problem with covering the topic in it's generaly used and accepted form, even it it would seem to be bashing. Look at Jock (subculture). It is a little bit nicer on the subject, but it still covers it in the generally used and accepted way. --LordShard 18:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

"emos aren't actually depressed, moreover attention seeking". That's really stereotypical and biased. I'm sure at the very least some "emos" suffer from clinical or bipolar depression.

It may also need to be mentioned that people may act "emo" to attract the opposite sex, espciall young men attempting to attract young women, by appearing to be emotional or depressed, while not actually being so. --User: unknown

For that reason I'm glad the authors included the reference to extreme nice guy syndrome. Although some girls may be attracted to the melodrama, for most of the population it neuters your prospects. On another note, there is a genuine slice of the youth population that experiences genuine depression and compulsive tendencies toward self-harm. It is interesting when the non-clinical population takes up these behaviors voluntarily, but more interesting that it gives the genuinely afflicted subset a semi-acceptable outlet for traditionally hidden emotions. Having this outlet for expression may not give them any greater relief, but at least they don't feel as isolated, having a subculture that shares and glorifies their melancholy and volatility. --64.113.93.205 15:43, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

In regards to the comment about depressed people feeling less isolated, that's just rediculous. The stereotyped Emo culture makes it much more dificult for those afflicted with such mental illness to feel accepted as many feel that by discussing their illness', they will be labeled as Emo, and made an outcast. Additionally, with the few who do feel "normal", or "accepted", they are less inclined to seek help, feeling that they are "normal" and have nothing wrong.

The percieved emo culture does nothign but make it harder for those with depression or bi-polar to seek help. -- Evilio 11:38, 30 July 2006

This is the point I tried to make earlier:

The article, in its present state, describes the emo subculture according to what can be objectively ascertained. However, the connotations of "emo" are equally signficant, particularly concerning its stereotype, as this is what is generally understood by the term. Therefore, more information of the perceptions and the stereotype associated with "emo" should be included. Bands and adherents of the emo music are self-concious of this implied meaning, to cite an example of its significance. Rintrah 17:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Emo (slang) --> Emo (stereotype)_Emo_(stereotype)-2006-07-28T03:54:00.000Z">

We should rename this article to Emo (stereotype). Calling a word slang degrades it's percieved value and is therefore POV.--God Ω War 03:54, 28 July 2006 (UTC)_Emo_(stereotype)"> _Emo_(stereotype)">

There is nothing about the word "slang" that degrades its value. "Slang" simply means that the word is not generally accepted in an official (read: dictionary) sense. Misplaced Pages has numerous articles utilizing similar titles, such as Hack (slang).

Anyway, "stereotype" would be a false title, as the term isn't limited to the stereotype. -- ChrisB 04:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

If anything, changing it to Emo (stereotype) would degrade its value. --Switch 08:32, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism: July 06

"Emo is a slang term used to describe complete homosexuals. F-U-C-K YOU WIKIPEDIA, GO DIE IN A FIRE!!!"
That is the first sentence of the Emo (slang) page on July 29, 2006. – SilverBulletx3_talk 14:11, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Kudos

This page is much more useful than the music one as a simple explanation of what Emo actually means. I read the music page and was none the wiser. I read this one and I get it. Thanks to whoever's responsible. --Cardinal Wurzel 22:37, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Uh...

Is the Urban Dictionary really a reliable source?--Foot Dragoon 01:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

EMO'S TAKE IT UP THE ARSE!

emo's are gay.fuck them. fuck them right up their checkered shirt wearing sissy arse's.

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