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*'''Delete.''' No coverage in reliable sources referenced or found. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 07:04, 22 August 2015 (UTC) *'''Delete.''' No coverage in reliable sources referenced or found. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 07:04, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
*'''Comment''': I'm uncertain about this, along {{u|DGG}}'s comments above. Yes there isn't much written about him, as most of the academics in his field. He's written a ton of publications and his books are placed in library collections. WP:AUTHOR and WP:PROF tend to favour online sources, ironically. It'd be extremely tough to put forth significant reviews on theological publications or prove his academic influence otherwise. I reckon these lesser known individuals are discriminated upon by the very fact that they don't work in areas most of the public care about; which consequently makes their work harder to judge, harming their chances in deletion discussion such as this. Anyway, I've posted a message in the relevant WikiProject that will hopefully garner much needed input to this discussion. Regards, <small>]</small> ]; ] 18:15, 24 August 2015 (UTC) *'''Comment''': I'm uncertain about this, along {{u|DGG}}'s comments above. Yes there isn't much written about him, as most of the academics in his field. He's written a ton of publications and his books are placed in library collections. WP:AUTHOR and WP:PROF tend to favour online sources, ironically. It'd be extremely tough to put forth significant reviews on theological publications or prove his academic influence otherwise. I reckon these lesser known individuals are discriminated upon by the very fact that they don't work in areas most of the public care about; which consequently makes their work harder to judge, harming their chances in deletion discussion such as this. Anyway, I've posted a message in the relevant WikiProject that will hopefully garner much needed input to this discussion. Regards, <small>]</small> ]; ] 18:15, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
*'''Keep.''' I admit that I was at first skeptical about this gentleman's notability; however I have managed to uncover some relevant source information (per ] and ], which if included in a revision of the Article, would lead me to support keeping it.
# He is the director of the Swiss ''"shelter for spiritual seekers"'' L'Abri for 20+ years, which was covered by an article in Christianity Today, and according to a piece by BeliefNet author Robert Gelinas, "stirred up a bit of controversy" under his leadership.
# In ''Apostles of Reason: The Crisis of Authority in American Evangelicalism'' by Molly Worthen, he is among those given thanks for assisting in her research.
# In ''Fasting: The Ancient Practices'' by Scot McKnight, he is acknowledged as reviewing/commenting on early manuscripts to the book.
# He is given a special acknowledgment as a reviewer/editor in ''Genesis: The Story We Haven't Heard'' by Paul Borgman.
:::'''''In conclusion,''''' I would judge these are solid pieces of evidence for his impact on the academic community (though it seems much work has been done "behind the scenes"). In addition to his own publications, there appears to be a valid argument for preserving the Article. --] (]) 22:39, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

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Greg Laughery

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Not notable - fails WP:PROF StAnselm (talk) 11:27, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. StAnselm (talk) 13:29, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. StAnselm (talk) 13:29, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Switzerland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:12, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
That's certainly the person. Google Scholar indicates an h-index of 3. StAnselm (talk) 21:44, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
h index is irrelevant in the humanities, and of all possible humanities, most irrelevant in theology. . DGG ( talk ) 03:05, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I know. But it is so very low, and it is hard to find anything to suggest significant impact as a scholar. StAnselm (talk) 03:51, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JAaron95 15:08, 11 August 2015 (UTC) Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 00:54, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete. No coverage in reliable sources referenced or found.  Sandstein  07:04, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment: I'm uncertain about this, along DGG's comments above. Yes there isn't much written about him, as most of the academics in his field. He's written a ton of publications and his books are placed in library collections. WP:AUTHOR and WP:PROF tend to favour online sources, ironically. It'd be extremely tough to put forth significant reviews on theological publications or prove his academic influence otherwise. I reckon these lesser known individuals are discriminated upon by the very fact that they don't work in areas most of the public care about; which consequently makes their work harder to judge, harming their chances in deletion discussion such as this. Anyway, I've posted a message in the relevant WikiProject that will hopefully garner much needed input to this discussion. Regards, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 18:15, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep. I admit that I was at first skeptical about this gentleman's notability; however I have managed to uncover some relevant source information (per WP:AUTHOR and WP:PROF, which if included in a revision of the Article, would lead me to support keeping it.
  1. He is the director of the Swiss "shelter for spiritual seekers" L'Abri for 20+ years, which was covered by an article in Christianity Today, and according to a piece by BeliefNet author Robert Gelinas, "stirred up a bit of controversy" under his leadership. see Gelinas article, here.
  2. In Apostles of Reason: The Crisis of Authority in American Evangelicalism by Molly Worthen, he is among those given thanks for assisting in her research. see relevant page (p.267) of Worthen book, here.
  3. In Fasting: The Ancient Practices by Scot McKnight, he is acknowledged as reviewing/commenting on early manuscripts to the book. see relevant page (p. 175) of McKnight book, here.
  4. He is given a special acknowledgment as a reviewer/editor in Genesis: The Story We Haven't Heard by Paul Borgman. see relevant page (p. 8) of Borgman book, here.
In conclusion, I would judge these are solid pieces of evidence for his impact on the academic community (though it seems much work has been done "behind the scenes"). In addition to his own publications, there appears to be a valid argument for preserving the Article. --UBI-et-ORBI (talk) 22:39, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
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