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::::::They have zero interest in even introducing the tiniest change I suggest. I have constantly dropped my edit to a more neutral stance but they aren't okay with '''anything'''. They constantly add stuff on their own which if I revert I will get banned because they have the support of each other. Like I wrote, the two are in cohorts outside Misplaced Pages and operate together. Oh and they (mostly Aquillion) constantly break the rule of "waiting and talking before reverting" themselves, yet you do nothing to them? --] (]) 20:27, 16 October 2015 (UTC) ::::::They have zero interest in even introducing the tiniest change I suggest. I have constantly dropped my edit to a more neutral stance but they aren't okay with '''anything'''. They constantly add stuff on their own which if I revert I will get banned because they have the support of each other. Like I wrote, the two are in cohorts outside Misplaced Pages and operate together. Oh and they (mostly Aquillion) constantly break the rule of "waiting and talking before reverting" themselves, yet you do nothing to them? --] (]) 20:27, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
:::::::There is in fact a long justification on the article talk page for my revert. I had not finished typing it before you yourself reverted me. Briefly, ''1)'' you know there is no agreement to include 'labels' where they serve no purpose, it is the opinion of most of us that yours serve no useful purpose. ''2)'' You replaced sourced descriptions of a book with your own assessment of its contents. DRN or RfC are the ways forward if you don't agree with the majority. … … btw ''Like I wrote, the two are in cohorts outside Misplaced Pages and operate together'' is a very serious charge on WP, repeating it 5 or 6 times, compounds the felony. ].] (]) 21:13, 16 October 2015 (UTC) :::::::There is in fact a long justification on the article talk page for my revert. I had not finished typing it before you yourself reverted me. Briefly, ''1)'' you know there is no agreement to include 'labels' where they serve no purpose, it is the opinion of most of us that yours serve no useful purpose. ''2)'' You replaced sourced descriptions of a book with your own assessment of its contents. DRN or RfC are the ways forward if you don't agree with the majority. … … btw ''Like I wrote, the two are in cohorts outside Misplaced Pages and operate together'' is a very serious charge on WP, repeating it 5 or 6 times, compounds the felony. ].] (]) 21:13, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
::::::::Where? I don't see any. On the removal of all political affiliations section you posted a short bit about me opposing "conservative" for some bizarre reason. I quickly replied, to which you didn't reply back. An hour and 20 minutes later you posted a big bit about only my edit warring (obviously ignoring Aquillion's). In that you talk about sources, but I myself pointed out that it was claimed Dinesh talked about mostly multiculturalism in his book when it's a minor sidenote and he mostly talks about victim's revolution as in victimization. I even posted about this on the talk page but you didn't bother. --] (]) 21:32, 16 October 2015 (UTC) ::::::::Where? I don't see any. On the removal of all political affiliations section you posted a short bit about me opposing "conservative" for some bizarre reason. I quickly replied, to which you didn't reply back. An hour and 20 minutes later you posted a big bit about only my edit warring (obviously ignoring Aquillion's). In that you talk about sources, but I myself pointed out that it was claimed Dinesh talked about mostly multiculturalism in his book when it's a minor sidenote and he mostly talks about victim's revolution as in victimization. I even posted about this on the talk page but you didn't bother. I also notice you went complaining on Neil's talk page that that "no one" likes the current stance of the article and that it should be reverted. You don't even seem to think I exist. I'm some annoyance to be brushed away so that you can write what you want. You don't want concensus. You don't even want a single letter from me added to the article, even if it were apt. It doesn't fit your bias. --] (]) 21:32, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

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I did a single undo per person (there were two). Not in a row, by the way. After that and after finding out they aren't budging, I started removing bits from my own stance to get to a concensus progressively through edits. The descriptors of my edits also greatly pointed out that I were dropping my points to appease. At this point I didn't think this was being an edit war, but rather an editing process between two disagreers - realpolitik concensus. --Mr. Magoo and McBarker (talk) 22:04, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

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For context, see the this edit and the three that follow, and the string of edits made by the same IP at Antifeminism. Fyddlestix (talk) 14:15, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Very early on I informed you that this is not my user account because I don't have access to the password-saving feature. I also informed you I will shortly be back on my real user account. Very neatly you forget that and paint a bad picture of me. I posted a more comprehensive view on Doug's talk page if you want to take a look. --Mr. Magoo and McBarker (talk) 22:00, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring, as you did at Political correctness. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

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Why in the world would I be blocked for making two reverts? I mean the edit history has Aquillion having done the same just below, yet he isn't blocked? --Mr. Magoo and McBarker (talk) 19:57, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
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I made two reverts? The latter of which done when the other person didn't even bother explaining his revert on the talk page? Another editor just below in the edit history did two reverts as well and he wasn't blocked?

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WP:3RR is not an entitlement to revert thrice, twice, or even once a day. Max Semenik (talk) 20:15, 16 October 2015 (UTC)


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You are blocked for your constant edit warring against multiple editors. There is no right to revert x amount of times. --NeilN 20:03, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

But the rule is the 24 hour period and three reverts? And there have been others "warring" against them, and "the other editors" (as in two) warring back? And the "multiple editors" (as in two) may very well the same person operating with a sock puppet (or at least they are in cohorts, messaging outside Misplaced Pages), as I proved on the talk page. Is the only way to make a change on Misplaced Pages a VPN, like the other editor? Does the truthfulness of your opinion not matter if you don't use a VPN to pretend to be multiple different editors? --Mr. Magoo and McBarker (talk) 20:07, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
This appears on your talk page: "Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly." If you suspect sockpuppetting, open a case at WP:SPI. Bear in mind frivolous accusations can be seen as personal attacks. Finally, I see three editors saying there's no consensus for your changes. --NeilN 20:15, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
I didn't make the introduction change (which removed an obvious unsourced straw man), but another editor did. The other warrer INSTANTLY reverted this edit, but I reverted it back. Again, is numbers the only thing that matters on Misplaced Pages? --Mr. Magoo and McBarker (talk) 20:18, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
If you are constantly being reverted by other editors, you need to stop, use the talk page, and wait until the dispute is resolved. This is a basic rule on Misplaced Pages, especially if you want to work on contentious articles. --NeilN 20:24, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
They have zero interest in even introducing the tiniest change I suggest. I have constantly dropped my edit to a more neutral stance but they aren't okay with anything. They constantly add stuff on their own which if I revert I will get banned because they have the support of each other. Like I wrote, the two are in cohorts outside Misplaced Pages and operate together. Oh and they (mostly Aquillion) constantly break the rule of "waiting and talking before reverting" themselves, yet you do nothing to them? --Mr. Magoo and McBarker (talk) 20:27, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
There is in fact a long justification on the article talk page for my revert. I had not finished typing it before you yourself reverted me. Briefly, 1) you know there is no agreement to include 'labels' where they serve no purpose, it is the opinion of most of us that yours serve no useful purpose. 2) You replaced sourced descriptions of a book with your own assessment of its contents. DRN or RfC are the ways forward if you don't agree with the majority. … … btw Like I wrote, the two are in cohorts outside Misplaced Pages and operate together is a very serious charge on WP, repeating it 5 or 6 times, compounds the felony. Either 'put up' or 'drop it'.Pincrete (talk) 21:13, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Where? I don't see any. On the removal of all political affiliations section you posted a short bit about me opposing "conservative" for some bizarre reason. I quickly replied, to which you didn't reply back. An hour and 20 minutes later you posted a big bit about only my edit warring (obviously ignoring Aquillion's). In that you talk about sources, but I myself pointed out that it was claimed Dinesh talked about mostly multiculturalism in his book when it's a minor sidenote and he mostly talks about victim's revolution as in victimization. I even posted about this on the talk page but you didn't bother. I also notice you went complaining on Neil's talk page that that "no one" likes the current stance of the article and that it should be reverted. You don't even seem to think I exist. I'm some annoyance to be brushed away so that you can write what you want. You don't want concensus. You don't even want a single letter from me added to the article, even if it were apt. It doesn't fit your bias. --Mr. Magoo and McBarker (talk) 21:32, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
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