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In Israel, please add the photo i putted in the talk page. 109.64.173.10 (talk) 09:15, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

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History of Israel: State of Israel (1948–present)

The section dealt with two points, the second of which was Truman's recognition of the new state. I am curious to know why you removed the link to Israel–United States relations. Trahelliven (talk) 06:21, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Trahelliven (talk) 06:39, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

The section called "State of Israel (1948–present)" has a subsections and includes all Israeli history since 1948. Israel–United States relations not that matter to include along with the Israeli Declaration of Independence. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 14:33, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

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I wonder if you could comply with the requiement to supply an Edit summary and briefly describe the changes you make. Trahelliven (talk) 06:41, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Trahelliven (talk) 06:44, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

I would make the same request -- you seem to be making many edits, but not leaving any edit summaries whatsover, as here. Epeefleche (talk) 16:15, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

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History of Judah articles

Why did you remove {{History of the Palestinian territories}} from articles about the history of Judea? That template deals with the history of Judah. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 18:22, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

The article covers all Judea history, not Arab Palestinian period.--Triggerhippie4 (talk) 18:29, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
So does the template. {{History of France}} also deals with history before the French people were in France. Same with {{History of England}}. So why remove it. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 18:36, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Also could you please discuss instead of edit waring. You made an edit and I reverted it. That means we discuss. The last person who simply re-removed the template from the Judah article instead of discussing got blocked for 1RR because of it. Also that was someone else, not me or you, who removed the map, the message about the map was meant for someone else. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:45, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Because it goes to {{History of Palestine}}, not {{History of the Palestinian territories}}.--Triggerhippie4 (talk) 18:47, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
{{History of Palestine}} is for the History of Palestine. {{History of the Palestinian territories}} is for the History of what is today the Palestinian territories, including Judea; it has a whole section for Judah. That's what the template deals with, not just the Arab period. So again, why remove {{History of the Palestinian territories}} from all those articles? It clearly deals with Judea. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 18:57, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
"not just the Arab period" belongs to {{History of Palestine}}. {{History of the Palestinian territories}} is Arab period. Judea shouldn't be in the latter one.--Triggerhippie4 (talk) 19:12, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
I'm gonna correct myself. Judea doesn't belong in neither of these. One deals with the Arab period and the other has no place for it since it's history template not geography.--Triggerhippie4 (talk) 19:44, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Your reason for removing the template contradicts the template's clear scope. So you think that articles about the ancient West Bank shouldn't be covered under {{History of the Palestinian territories}}, your entitled to that opinion but they are. Palestine is a far larger area then the Palestinian territories, and until the mid 20th century the Arabs have inhabited Palestine, not just the territories, so to simply say that Arabs are dealt with under the territories doesn't work. Plenty of other country/territory history templates deal with Ancient times from before the present day inhabitants lived in the country/territory. So keeping the template's scope in mind, why remove the template? Also, could you revert your 1rr volitions please. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 19:50, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
The Arab period of Palestine is dealt with under the "Islamic rule" section of {{History of Palestine}}. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 19:53, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
"Palestine is a far larger area then the Palestinian territories" – not "far." There is no and likely won't be any templates other than {{History of Israel}}, {{History of the Palestinian territories}} and {{History of Palestine}}. First is for Jewish history in the region, second – Arab, and third – in general.--Triggerhippie4 (talk) 20:21, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
And by the way, {{History of the Palestinian territories}} is redirect. Template called {{Governance of Palestine from 1948}}.--Triggerhippie4 (talk) 20:30, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
The territories
Palestine
Again, that contradicts the clear scope of the territories template, it clearly deals with the territories, not Palestine or the Arab period of Palestine but the territories, from ancient times to present. The Israel template is for Jewish history in Palestine and the modern state of Israel. As the primary editor of the territories template, and an editor heavily involved in the early development of the Israel template, I assure you that those are the scopes.
You can clearly see that the territories template doesn't deal with Arab period of Palestine by looking at it and seeing that it doesn't contain all those Arabian Caliphates that are covered under the "Islamic rule" section of the Palestine template. And it clearly covers ancient times. You may disagree with that scope, but that is clearly the scope.
Excluding Transjorden, Israel's territory consists of most of Palestine, so it simply didn't make sense for the Israel template to cover the whole history of Palestine (unlike {{History of Iraq}} which covers Iraq/Mesopotamia in general), because it would have been a duplicate of the Palestine template. If we need a template specify for Arab/Islamic history in Palistine we can make one, but I think that that would be too much a dulpcuate of the "Islamic rule" section and the territories template.
As for the redirect, the template is mis-titled, there was an editor who didn't like the praise "Palestinian territories" and tried to remove it throughout Misplaced Pages. At the time the title was given that title it only contained what is now the "Governance (since 1948)" section, it didn't contain the "Sub-topics" section. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 21:22, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
It's verbalism. Do not turn the subject into geography. It's WP:OR and not template-worthy. It only makes sense for Palestinian territories/State of Palestine/Palestinian National Authority. In the absence of one clear name, one of these used. And to put template called {{Governance of Palestine from 1948}}/"History of the Palestinian territories," with Palestinian flag/emblem, to Judea article is nonsense, as you did earlier with Kingdom of Judah and Tribe of Judah (LOL).--Triggerhippie4 (talk) 22:45, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Why, it's subject is political geography. The Judea article states "Judea or Judæa is the name of the mountainous southern part of the Land of Israel, roughly corresponding to the southern West Bank." So it's OR to put articles about the history of the southern West Bank into the Palestinian territories template. Is it also nonsense and OR to put {{History of Jordan}} with the Jordanian flag/emblem into Transjordan (Bible). Should the Jordan template only deal with Arab history in Jordan/Transjordan? If not, explain why the this is different. Sense when did country/territory history templates stop dealing with periods from before the present day inhabitants arrived; there are a few like that such as {{History of Turkey}}, but that's the exception, not the rule.
You seem to want to turn the territories template into an "Arab History in Palestine" template. That's an argument you could make, but then the template becomes an "Arab history in Palestine" not a "History of the Palestinian territories" template. The Palestinian territories is as different from Palestine as Palestine is form the Levant. They each have their own templates: {{History of the Levant}}, {{History of Palestine}} and {{History of the Palestinian territories}}. As you go through these templates, they deal with the history of an area that is within, but smaller, then the area dealt with in the proceeding template. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talkcontribs) 23:38, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
{{History of Syria}} contains info well before the Arabs arrived in Syria. Same with {{History of Iraq}} and {{History of Egypt}}. This is clearly not OR, if it was there's no way it could have been done in so many templates. You haven't offered any reason to treat the Territories template any differently then the others, except by pointing to {{History of Palestine}}, but by the same standard the non-Arab history ought to be removed from the Syria and Jordan template's and transfered to {{History of the Levant}}. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 01:58, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
These comparisons are incorrect. You trying to duplicate existing History of Palestine template in the template about modern country. Name "Judea" is of Hebrew origin and is used in context of Jewish history. West Bank is West Bank. And also, Judea is the name for geographic region not period, it don't belongs to history template.--Triggerhippie4 (talk) 04:05, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
Historically the PT has not been one unit so it made sense to divide the template into Ancient West Bank and Ancient Gaza Strip sections. All the articles I found dealing with the Ancient West Bank dealt spicily with the southern West Bank (AKA Judea) hence the rename of the Ancient West Bank section to "Judea (southern West Bank)". It doesn't try to duplicate the Palestine template because it deals specifiably with the territories. It's just articles specifiably about the territories that go there such as Yehud Medinata, which was roughly in what is today the southern West Bank. ({{History of Algeria}} and {{History of Libya}} also cover non-Arab history)
Criticizing the templates origination or terminology is not an argument for saying that the template's scope is incorrect. The southern West Bank has allot of Jewish and non-Arab history, so does Jordan, yet the Jordan template has Biblical Transjordan. Why are my comparisons incorrect? I don't see the difference between the situations, but you do. Jordan and Syria don't limit themselves to Arab history and cover non-Arab history to a template that deals with a larger area (Levant); why should the territories only deal with Arab history and leave dealing with non-Arab history to a template that deals with a larger area (Palestine). Your the one arguing that the territories template should differ from the all the other Arab country/territory history templates, so it's your job to explain why this template should differ. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 05:36, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
I'm restoring the template from the articles you removed it from, as you haven't provided a reason to treat the template differently then the all the other Arab country/territory history templates; and there is no conciseness to narrow the templates scope to just Arab history. You do have a good point about the template being too geographic, so I renamed that section "Ancient Judea (southern West Bank)" and removed "modern southern west bank". I think it's fine to have separate sections for the Ancient southern west bank and Ancient Gaza strip under the circumstances tough, regather then mixing them tougher. If you want to continue to contest the template's scope I'm open to further discussion, and I'm open to the possibility of treating this template differently then the others if there is some reason, unrelated to semantics and the templates origination, to do so. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 01:25, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

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Could you help me with this? I don't know who are the current Head of the Government Deputies.--Michael Zeev (talk) 03:56, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

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I see you've created this template and have started adding it to the articles. Please don't - I really don't think these templates are a good idea, and want to stop them spreading before it's too hard. There have been so many governments that it's really not worth it. Some ministers have been members of over 10, so it would result in a ridiculous number of navboxes on their pages. We already have one for each ministerial post (e.g. {{Israeli Agriculture Ministers}}). Thanks, Number 57 11:06, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Ok, agree. Should it be {{Current government of Israel}} instead, as with {{Current MKs}}?--Triggerhippie4 (talk) 11:24, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
Cool :) I'm kind of torn on having one for the current government. I can see the attraction, but I'm worried it might end up being kept and a new one created when the 34th is created... Perhaps we could build it into the current MKs template - perhaps another group at the bottom with the ministers' positions? I'll draft one later. Number 57 11:49, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
I just noticed that the MKs template contains info on the current cabinet. Now I guess {{Current government of Israel}} should be redirected to the MKs template.--Triggerhippie4 (talk) 12:55, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
Should {{Current government of Israel}} be like in Hebrew wiki? Without sorting by party, but with info on which ministry every person is minister of. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 13:11, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
I was planning on just having a separate line on the Current MK template similar to the Hebrew version of the Minister template. Number 57 13:21, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
Which Hebrew template do you mean? I'm talking about translating this in to this. It has info on the particular ministries. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 13:27, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes - that template, but adding it in truncated form to the bottom of Current MKs. Something along the lines of Prime Minister: Netanyahu - Agriculture: Shamir. Will do a full example this evening to show you. Number 57 13:41, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
Sometimes a minister is not MK, so having all the ministers in the MKs template will be wrong. Also the template is already quite large. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 13:50, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
It may be too big - I wanted to see how small I could make the separate section. Will do that shortly and let you know. We could always rename it "Current Members of the Knesset and Government Ministers" if it did look ok... We shall see! Number 57 16:21, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Well, I managed to make the section quite small, but I'm not sure it's much use. Perhaps a separate template is the way to go. However, I've noticed a lot of errors on {{Current government of Israel}} - I take it that it's still a work in progress? Number 57 18:27, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

What errors? --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 21:56, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

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I notice a lot of editors have asked you about edit summaries and I noticed you removed the channel4 coverage about gaza-israel conflict with no rationale - it is polite if you are asked isn't it to , add an edit summary sometimes - - I don't know why you deleted the channel4 coverage - you must have something against channel 4 I guess. anyhow I think like others that sometimes you should leave some explanation of edits. Sayerslle (talk) 22:53, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

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It's not me now. Pitchfork is notable publication so of course other editors adding it. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 09:55, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

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Amir Ohana

Hi, I've put back the photograph of Amir attending gay pride in Tel Aviv, since I don't understand your rationale for deleting it. Please, do not remove it. If you have any concerns, I am happy to discuss it. Thank you and Shalom. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 15:55, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

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