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MediaWiki talk:Move-redirect-text#Redr

Would an uninvolved administrator please assess the consensus at MediaWiki talk:Move-redirect-text#Redr (Initiated 3324 days ago on 12 December 2015)? —Godsy_CONT) 19:03, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

This was going to be no consensus or consensus against, but discussion has renewed for a solution that will satisfy the opposition, so this should not be closed yet. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ≼ 19:16, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Talk:David L. Jones#RFC: Inclusion of draft sections

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:David L. Jones#RFC: Inclusion of draft sections (Initiated 3325 days ago on 11 December 2015)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:25, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Muhammad#What should be included for information regarding Aishas' marriage to Muhammad on the Muhammad article?

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Muhammad#What should be included for information regarding Aishas' marriage to Muhammad on the Muhammad article? (Initiated 3332 days ago on 4 December 2015)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:25, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Closing of this RFC is past due, and the lack of a close has caused contention in dispute resolution. However, closure by a non-Muslim editor would be likely to result in further contention. Request closure by an uninvolved experienced Muslim editor. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:25, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Anime and manga/Archive 65#RfC: Anime films and production companies

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Anime and manga/Archive 65#RfC: Anime films and production companies (Initiated 3319 days ago on 17 December 2015)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:25, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Political correctness#Generally or primarily or something else

It was redated once and it's been ongoing for 54 days now, but discussion has pretty much died down. All of the monitors of Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Language and linguistics voted for a third option, "often": 1, 2, 3 and 4. Current article lead hasn't existed for very long so nothing is yet "stable". --Mr. Magoo and McBarker (talk) 23:57, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Done, discussion is closed. no result. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:19, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Undone I apologize for not explaining well enough but the point was to finally assess concensus as either or, not just closing it. I'll undo the closure in await for someone to actually decide either or. If there is no result it shall just be redated and reopened and the discussion and RfC continued because that is the proper procedure if there is no result yet, not closure. --Mr. Magoo and McBarker (talk) 09:48, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Removed done tag so this will not be automatically archived by the bot. Cunard (talk) 05:31, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Séralini affair#RfC Regarding content scope and neutrality

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Séralini affair#RfC Regarding content scope and neutrality (Initiated 3322 days ago on 14 December 2015)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:31, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

not done as further edits seem to have overtaken the last participation in the RfC so as to make formal assessment unnecessary unless a participant requires. Ncmvocalist (talk) 08:51, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

I disagree with not closing the RfC. I think it is helpful to answer these two questions:

1. Should we include the mention that Seralini's papers have been published in the peer-reviewed literature?
2. Should we include the studies which are discussed - or within the actual scope, of this article?

The discussion seems contentious which is why I'm not closing it myself. Cunard (talk) 19:29, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Agree, its a hotly contested article in the GMO area that was part of a recent Arbcom case, and should be closed. I cant close it because of my involvement in that case, but even if I could I wouldnt as a NAC. AlbinoFerret 23:10, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Special:Preferences#RfC: Change Default Math Appearance Setting to MathML

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages talk:Special:Preferences#RfC: Change Default Math Appearance Setting to MathML (Initiated 3323 days ago on 13 December 2015)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:31, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

This should run for another week or two, as it was not properly advertized and got insufficient attention. --Sammy1339 (talk) 19:55, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
- Not done - discussion has recently picked up again with a drive for more participants. Sam Walton (talk) 14:45, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
  - Removed not done template so the bot won't prematurely advertise it. I agree with waiting more time before closing it. Cunard (talk) 02:48, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Snooker#RfC: Does the use of self-published sources in snooker articles violate BLPSPS and SPS?

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Snooker#RfC: Does the use of self-published sources in snooker articles violate BLPSPS and SPS? (Initiated 3299 days ago on 6 January 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 02:48, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–50)#Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–50): RfC on lede passage

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–50)#Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–50): RfC on lede passage (Initiated 3307 days ago on 29 December 2015)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 02:48, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Super-easy close: Misplaced Pages talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_179#.22winningest.22_in_sports_articles (Initiated 3291 days ago on 14 January 2016)

We actually drafted and !voted on a 5-point consensus (with notes than need not be part of the close), at Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style#Can we wrap this up?. While this could be allowed to just expired into the archives, it would be convenient to have a formal close, because the thread, and its derailed sub-thread about clarifying MoS's meaning with regard to formal/encyclopedic language, is holding up re-opening a "clean" discussion on the latter point, unpolluted by "winningest"-related bickering. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ≼ 08:01, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

This RFC has been archived. It has been marked as closed, but it has not been closed. Robert McClenon (talk) 07:51, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Two RFC's need closing

One is snow close Talk:Muhammad#Remove 'founder of islam' reference. The other needs a cool headed admin(preferably knowledgeable in Islam) who is willing to read the entire RFC and is able to deal with the fall out later on. Talk:Muhammad#RFC for opening sentence in the lede. FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 07:16, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Village_pump (policy)/Archive 125#Two edit filter RfCs: Modifying existing filters and enabling the block function

A two part expired RfC, should be a fairly easy close. Sam Walton (talk) 10:54, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Talk:List of state leaders in 2016#RfC: Inclusion of Palestine as a sub state of Israel

(Initiated 3263 days ago on 11 February 2016)

We need an experienced editor/admin to look at this RfC. The initial question concerns the way in which Palestine is listed on this page, though the question also has implications for other leaders of unrecognised or partially recognized states, and for leaders of sub-national entities (constituent countries of the Netherlands and so forth). It also impacts on related pages (List of state leaders in 2015, etc...). I should note that a couple of editors have questioned the phrasing of the RfC itself. Appreciate that this is a complex one but a careful eye is needed to suggest how to proceed! --Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 21:20, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Not done - Discussion still ongoing.--Aervanath (talk) 08:30, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

@Aervanath: The discussion is over and the result is zero consensus for change, per the lack of prior discussion to the Rfc & the misleading and biased nature of the Rfc question.--Neve –selbert 17:25, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

The only reason to close this RFC would be that it is misleadingly and non-neutrally worded, in which case it can be closed as incapable of producing consensus. Otherwise it can be left open for 30 days. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:21, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

@Neve-selbert: As of this writing the most recent contribution to the RFC is only 30 seconds old. Convention is to let RFCs run for at least 30 days or as long as it takes to reach consensus, whichever is longer. The discussion is only 11 days old at this point. I skimmed the discussion; while the initial RFC could have been better-worded, my impression is that the majority of contributors are not biased by the wording of the RFC. I don't see anything there to convince me to close it early. There is no rush.--Aervanath (talk) 19:57, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

@Aervanath: The contributors to the survey are simply unaware that they are opposing the status quo, they believe that they are opposing a change to the status quo instead. This is the fundamental flaw & another reason as to why the Rfc should be closed ASAP.--Neve –selbert 20:06, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

@Neve-selbert: Like I said, in my skimming of the discussion, the contributors seem perfectly aware of the implications of their statements. I see no need to close early, I see no fundamental flaw. Let the RFC run out its normal course, please.--Aervanath (talk) 22:18, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

@Aervanath: Would the result be binding? This is totally confusing, there are overwhelming flaws with the Rfc. The contributors are supporting keeping the status quo while at the same time supporting changing the status quo and vice versa (whichever way you look at it). Surely, that is a cause for concern.--Neve –selbert 22:27, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

@Neve-selbert: The result would be binding if there was consensus for any particular result. That's how consensus works. I (or whatever other admin eventually closes the RfC) will not look at whether people are for or against the "status quo", but will look at what people think the article should look like going forward. If there is a consensus for what the article should look like, then it doesn't matter what the status quo was.--Aervanath (talk) 12:09, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Images#Fixing images below the default size

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Images#Fixing images below the default size (Initiated 3507 days ago on 12 June 2015)? See the subsection Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Images#RfC: Should the guideline maintain the "As a general rule" wording or something similar?. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:16, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Biographies of living persons#Seeking clarification

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages talk:Biographies of living persons#Seeking clarification (Initiated 3306 days ago on 30 December 2015)? See the subsection Misplaced Pages talk:Biographies of living persons#Clarification question on the policy, where the opening editor wrote, "Does the WP:BLPSOURCES ban on tabloid journalism mean that no BLP material can be sourced to a Tabloid Journal?" Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:16, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Mohamed Hadid#Request for comment

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Mohamed Hadid#Request for comment (Initiated 3294 days ago on 11 January 2016)? The opening poster wrote: "Should the article include "(now Israel)" next to mentions of Mandatory Palestine, the name of the place at the time the subject was born?" Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:16, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Talk:List of Islamist terrorist attacks#RFC

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of Islamist terrorist attacks#RFC (Initiated 3287 days ago on 18 January 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:16, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Talk:List of oldest living people#RfC: How should we word the lede?

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of oldest living people#RfC: How should we word the lede? (Initiated 3288 days ago on 17 January 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:16, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Talk:List of oldest living people#RfC: "List of Verified Oldest Living People" as title instead of "List of Oldest Living People"

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of oldest living people#RfC: "List of Verified Oldest Living People" as title instead of "List of Oldest Living People" (Initiated 3286 days ago on 19 January 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:16, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Bernie Sanders#Democrat/Independent

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Bernie Sanders#Democrat/Independent (Initiated 3284 days ago on 21 January 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:16, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Eminem#Should info about deaths of Proof and Dawn Scott be added and if yes, then what in form? (RfC)

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Eminem#Should info about deaths of Proof and Dawn Scott be added and if yes, then what in form? (RfC) (Initiated 3283 days ago on 22 January 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:16, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Talk:ExxonMobil#RfC: Should the article have a heading about support for climate change denialism?

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:ExxonMobil#RfC: Should the article have a heading about support for climate change denialism? (Initiated 3294 days ago on 11 January 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:16, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration#RfC: Proposal to fix a long term structural problem in Palestine Israel conflict articles

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration#RfC: Proposal to fix a long term structural problem in Palestine Israel conflict articles (Initiated 3291 days ago on 14 January 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:16, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Talk:List of the oldest living state leaders#Line for Elizabeth II

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:List of the oldest living state leaders#Line for Elizabeth II (Initiated 3285 days ago on 20 January 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:16, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Template talk:Infobox medical condition#Request for comments: Should the infobox medical condition contain a list of synonyms?

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Template talk:Infobox medical condition#Request for comments: Should the infobox medical condition contain a list of synonyms? (Initiated 3296 days ago on 9 January 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:16, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Can someone assess the RFC at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Capital_letters#RFC_for_multiple_letter_capitalisations_in_the_MoS. There are multiple options and there seems to be mixed opinion on all of them. There is also discussion about the same issue at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Capital_letters/Archive_20#Extending_the_.22one-letter_lowercase_prefix.22_rule_to_multiple-letter_prefixes and Talk:TVOS. Thanks, Tom29739 17:28, 2 March 2016 (UTC). (Initiated 3274 days ago on 31 January 2016)

Backlogs

Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion

This discussion forum has an extensive backlog with approximately 150 discussions that have yet to be closed, the oldest of which is from 2015 October 15. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:06, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

The backlog is about the same number but only falls back to December now. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 16:40, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Closer to 140 but still back to early January. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 21:13, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for discussion

This discussion forum has a typical backlog with approximately 40 discussions that have yet to be closed, the oldest of which is from January 25, 2016. Ricky81682 (talk) 16:41, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

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Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2016_January_5#Category:Articles_containing_Simplified_Chinese-language_text

Please could someone look at this and take the necessary action to close it? Thanks. Lugnuts 08:06, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2016_January_11#Category:Historical_subdivisions_of_the_Slovene_ethnic_territory.E2.80.8E

Please could someone look at this and take the necessary action to close it? Thanks. Lugnuts 07:58, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2016_January_15#Category:Organisations_based_in_the_United_Kingdom_by_membership

Please could someone look at this and take the necessary action to close it? Thanks. Lugnuts 08:41, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2016_January_19#Category:Occupation_of_the_Malheur_National_Wildlife_Refuge

Please could someone look at this and take the necessary action to close it? Thanks. Lugnuts 08:03, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2016_January_21#Category:Shipbuilding_.2F_shipbreaking_localities_of_Scotland

Please could someone look at this and take the necessary action to close it? Thanks. Lugnuts 10:07, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Steel1943 relisted the discussion to Misplaced Pages:Files for discussion/2016 February 24#File:Good Morning Britain 1986 sofa.jpg. Cunard (talk) 04:35, 25 February 2016 (UTC)