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:::{{yo|Thucydides411}} I've re-reverted. {{U|Volunteer Marek}} is a long-time anti-Russian POV-pusher though, so I don't doubt this will have to be taken to a drama board, somewhere Marek is very comfortable unfortunately. ] 02:35, 26 December 2016 (UTC) | :::{{yo|Thucydides411}} I've re-reverted. {{U|Volunteer Marek}} is a long-time anti-Russian POV-pusher though, so I don't doubt this will have to be taken to a drama board, somewhere Marek is very comfortable unfortunately. ] 02:35, 26 December 2016 (UTC) | ||
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Citations are extremely misquoted in places. Must change
I dont use an account, this page is semi-protected so I cant do it myself.
"During this time he hacked into the Pentagon and other US Department of Defense facilities, MILNET, the US Navy, NASA, and Australia's Overseas Telecommunications Commission; Citibank, Lockheed Martin, Motorola, Panasonic, and Xerox; and the Australian National University, La Trobe University, and Stanford University's SRI International. "
This citation states that "Assange allegedly used a modem to access other computers. Among the places targeted were an Australian university, a telecommunications company and the Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology. He even taunted police investigators looking into the hacking, according to the government."
This citation doesnt even mention US DoD, Pentagon, MILNET, US NAVY....etc.
Clean this up, someone. Anyone with an account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.163.64 (talk) 04:19, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Only thing that should be on that list are Australian University, a telecom company, and the Royal MIT.
Infobox information
Should we add information to the article infobox on his position in The WikiLeaks Party?
i.e.
Julian Assange | |
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Leader of the WikiLeaks Party | |
In office 1 July 2013 – 23 July 2015 | |
Deputy | Gerry Georgatos |
Preceded by | Party established |
Succeeded by | Party abolished |
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Report: Bahamian Police Investigating Julian Assange for Online Sexual Solicitation of an 8 Year Old Girl
Bahamian police confirm they have received such a report, but say they have no evidence on which to proceed.
October 19, 2016
Julian Assange cutof from internet for soliciting sex from an 8 year old girl
The owners of a dating website claim they hired Wikileaks founder Julian Assange as a programmer, but that he used the platform to solicit sex from an 8 year old girl. Assange says he was set up by Clinton partisans, and did nothing of the sort.
According to the website "Bipartisan Report," the Commonwealth of the Bahamas is investigating Assange on charges of allegedly soliciting sex from an 8 year old girl. The report says this is the real reason why Ecuadorian embassy cutoff internet access to Wikileaks founder. http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/10/18/just-in-wikileaks-julian-assange-caught-in-alleged-sex-chat-with-child-reports/
"It seems a Canadian family on vacation in the Bahamas contacted the police on Sept. 28. They said Assange “sexually molested online” their 8-year-old daughter, while he was on the ToddandClare.com site," says Bipartisan Report. It is not entirely clear how a child can be molested online, but that is the allegation.
WikiLeaks denies the story. BuzzFeed says that while the Bahamian police did receive such a report, no one followed up on it and they are not investigating it because they have no victim, hence nothing to investigate. https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-bizarre-story-of-how-a-tiny-online-dating-site-accused-j?utm_term=.cdeNDnYRKb#.paar4vDbP2
It should be noted that WikiLeaks has in effect allied themselves with the Trump campaign and against the Clinton campaign, by the serial release of administration and State Department emails by and about Hillary Clinton and her campaign.
ToddandClare.com decided to participate in the UN Global Compact program. This required its owners to release their records to the UN. Those records included any legal interactions with Assange. Supposedly, the UN informed them of the Bahamian allegations.
Immediately following the publication of this story, Wikileaks tweeted a link to a variety of documents in an attempt to show “an elaborate plot to falsely claim that Julian Assange received US$1M from the Russian government and a second plot to frame him sexually molesting an eight year old girl.”
In a statement, UNGC Communications Chief Carrie A. Hall explained the organization's decision to delist T&C: "The company was removed from the initiative for violating our Integrity Measures, including misuse of our name and logo. The document that ToddandClare.com reference is not a UN report. It was produced by ToddandClare.com, and solely represents their views. This document was removed from the UN Global Compact website for violating our integrity measures. We are not a party to the dispute between ToddandClare.com and Julian Assange."
Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal is reporting a different reason for the internet restriction:
Ecuador’s pulling the plug on Julian Assange’s internet connection highlighted the isolation of WikiLeaks, the organization he founded to expose the inner workings of governments and other powerful institutions.
Ecuador said Tuesday that it restricted access to private communications at its embassy in the United Kingdom, where Mr. Assange lives, on concerns that he was meddling in the U.S. presidential election.
In a statement, the Foreign Relations Ministry said the decision to cut off communications at its embassy was to prevent interference in the “internal affairs of other states.”
Some former allies and observers say that after four years confined to the Ecuadorean Embassy in London, Mr. Assange is alienating former supporters and undermining WikiLeaks’ relevance. They cite a series of leaks that they say supported Russian efforts to disrupt the U.S. election and carelessly promoted Turkish government documents exposing the personal information of thousands of ordinary citizens.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/wikileaks-founder-julian-assanges-isolation-deepens-1476832302
Julian Paul Assange, 45, is an Australian computer programmer, publisher and journalist. He is editor-in-chief of WikiLeaks, which he founded in 2006.
On November 2010, Assange was requested to be extradited to Sweden, where he is wanted for questioning concerning an allegation of rape. Assange denied the allegation and has expressed concern that he would be extradited from Sweden to the United States due to his perceived role in publishing secret American documents.
After exhausting his legal options in the United Kingdom, Assange did not surrender for extradition. Rather, he sought and was granted asylum by Ecuador in August 2012. Assange has since remained in the Embassy of Ecuador in London, and is unable to leave without being arrested for breaching his bail conditions.
This is the mysterious reason why Ecuadorian embassy cutoff internet access to Wikileaks founder
The United Nations' Working Group on Arbitrary Detention found, by a majority, that he has been "arbitrarily detained" and that his detention should be brought to an end. UK Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond said the UN conclusion was "ridiculous", that the group was "made up of lay people", and called Assange a fugitive from justice. On October 17, 2016, the state of Ecuador cut Assange's internet access in the embassy.
The Bahamas, officially the Commonwealth of the Bahamas, is an archipelagic state of the Lucayan Archipelago consisting of more than 700 islands, cays, and islets in the Atlantic Ocean; north of Cuba and Hispaniola (Haiti and the Dominican Republic); northwest of the Turks and Caicos Islands; southeast of the US state of Florida and east of the Florida Keys. Its capital is Nassau on the island of New Providence. The designation of "The Bahamas" can refer to either the country or the larger island chain that it shares with the Turks and Caicos Islands. As stated in the mandate/manifesto of the Royal Bahamas Defence Force, the Bahamas territory encompasses 470,000 km2 (180,000 sq mi) of ocean space.
2602:306:35AC:8B00:40C3:977D:38AE:FCA7 (talk) 15:19, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Anup 22:29, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
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The "Swedish sexual assault allegations" section currently has a pro-Julian-Assange bias.
- That the alleged victims had consensual sex has no relevance on the non-consensual acts they've accused him of
- "The case" was never closed. One charge was temporarily dropped for two days
- No Special Prosecutor was ever involved
- His lawyer was told at one point he was free to leave the country, but he only actually left weeks later, after an arrest warrant was filed.
I recommend this edit to replace the first paragraph:
On a trip to Stockholm in August 2010, Assange had separate sexual encounters with two women who claim the encounters started consensual but became non-consensual. One woman claims Assange initially restrained her from reaching for a condom, and after he did agree to use one, she alleges, he purposefully tore it. The other woman alleges that, after consensual sex with a condom, she awoke to find Assange having sex with her without a condom. The women went to police, apparently to coerce Assange into an HIV test, but were told their statements would need to be passed to the prosecutor. As a result, the Swedish Prosecutor's Office issued an arrest warrent for two charges: molestation and rape.
The rape charge was briefly dropped but reinstated on appeal from the alleged victim. Assange's attorney was informed on 15 September that he was "not subject to any restraint and could leave Sweden," but further attempts to interview him failed when, according to his attorney, Assange was unreachable for an eight day period. Assange left Sweden the same day the Swedish prosecutor ordered his arrest, and after further attempts to interview him failed, the prosecutor issued a European Arrest Warrant in November 2010. Assange denies the allegations and said he was happy to face questions in Britain. He and his supporters claim the charges are part of a larger scheme to discredit him or have him extradited to the United States.
I also recommend the sentence "During this period, the Swedish government questioned at least 44 other criminal suspects abroad" be removed from the second paragraph, as it's not supported by its citation (and further makes it sound like a government conspiracy is out against him, that his case is being handled atypically). While the number may be true (and again, there's no citation here that says it is), there's no evidence cited here that those interviews were in similar circumstances (namely, that an extradition order had already been filed and evaded).
- Well for a start the sentence "Assange visited Sweden in August 2010, where two women accused him of sexual allegations" is in need of further work. Britmax (talk) 22:34, 15 November 2016 (UTC).
- Appreciate it. I'd first just kept the initial sentence in-tact ("Assange visited Sweden in August 2010, where he became the subject of sexual allegations from two women with whom he had consensual sex") and removed the irrelevant bit that they'd had consensual sex and changed it to the active voice. I've expanded a bit on what the allegations are, while still trying to keep it brief and impartial. 198.244.108.135 (talk) 18:53, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
- Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. -- Dane2007 23:20, 2 December 2016 (UTC) - This edit request has been pending for over one month now without objection. Does that qualify as consensus? Thanks. 198.244.108.135 (talk) 20:52, 17 December 2016 (UTC)!
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Date about John Jones death seems to be wrong. Source (https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/1138414/britains-top-human-rights-lawyer-who-represented-julian-assange-and-worked-alongside-george-clooneys-wife-amal-dies-in-apparent-suicide/) is from 21 April, but Misplaced Pages states that he died on 16 August. "On 16 August 2016, Assange's lawyer in the UK, John Jones, was found dead, according to the first reports after being hit by a train in an apparent suicide." should be changed to 21 April and also probably moved up, since rest of paragraph is in chronological order.
2A02:AA16:5300:4E80:F9BF:532:524B:B56B (talk) 23:26, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
- Not done: The Sun is not a reliable source. -- Dane2007 23:25, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
No proof of life since 16 October 2016
I suppose it's too early for Misplaced Pages to become a trusted source about the potential extradition of Mr. Assange between October 17th and October 21st? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8084:1080:5600:A0A2:34DC:BC0C:5A1D (talk) 01:11, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages is never "trusted source". Trust_but_verify WP requires edits to cite reliable sources. Enforcement and compliance vary. Wikidgood (talk) 20:26, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
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In the section regarding the death of Julian Assange's UK lawyer, John Jones, for balance it is probably worth noting that while Wikileaks may imply assassination,the actual coroner's verdict specifically states that John Jones intended to end his life and that he acted alone (http://www.camdennewjournal.com/john-jones-inquest), but that the evidence didn't quite meet the legal requirement for a determination of suicide.
62.255.39.68 (talk) 08:53, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
- Not done for now: Can you provide additional reliable sources for this? -- Dane2007 23:28, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
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In the "Swedish Sexual Assault Violations" section: The statement "Assange visited Sweden in August 2010, where he became the subject of sexual allegations from two women with whom he had consensual sex" implies innocence on Assange's part, which is in dispute. This should probably be changed to "...with two women with whom he had sex."
Jmoriart (talk) 16:22, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
- Done -- Dane2007 23:28, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Presidential Election 2016 secition one sided quotes
There is quote from Podesta emails on HRC saying she had warned ... But there was so much more and relevant quotes including actual speech segments. I did not find the quote that was used in debate on having a public and private positions,...
If segments of actual emails are going to be placed in this article, it needs to have some sort of balance. It seems biased to put just a quote that favors HRC
I suggest adding the private/public position... quote as well or removing quotes all together Paulthemonk (talk) 04:53, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Remove Anti-semitism accusations
Seriously there is a section on "Anti-semitism accusations" ??? Who is adding these? He is accused by one person, he denies it and gets a "Anti-semitism accusations" section on Misplaced Pages?
It would be appropriate to have a section on accusations, criticism, so on.
That is a serious charge without much evidence to back it up. Shouldnt have a section all to itself.
I suggest deleting or creating a section for accusations/criticism. I lean towards deleting.Paulthemonk (talk) 04:57, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
"Relationship with the Putin Regime"
I've removed a section titled, "Relationship with the Putin Regime." Beyond the obviously POV title ("Putin Regime" vs. the more neutral "Russian government" or "Putin administration"), the section is based largely on one article in the Guardian. That article () misquotes Assange very seriously, completely changing the meaning of what he said to La Repubblica in the original interview (). In the interview, Assange says that Wikileaks doesn't publish much on Russia because he lacks Russian staff, and because there are other outlets that already do a better job of publishing Russian leaks. The Guardian article twists this statement to say that Assange praised the open journalistic environment in Russia, something he does not do in the original interview. The Guardian's feud with Assange is well known, and we shouldn't rely on one particularly poor example of journalism in the Guardian to write an entire section in this article. It's both undue and POV. -Thucydides411 (talk) 22:49, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
@Volunteer Marek, the Guardian is not a reliable source in this case, as you can see from their blatant misquotation of Assange. And this section is undue, since it is based largely on one article. How many articles have been written on Assange in the last decade? -Thucydides411 (talk) 22:59, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
I'll also note that Assange's quote, as it is summarized in this article, is completely turned on its head. Assange specifically praises organizations that leak Russian documents, and addresses the linguistic reasons why Wikileaks is not more active in Russia. This Wiki article changes that into its opposite, saying that Assange said there is no need for whistleblowing in Russia. This is a serious BLP violation, and I would appreciate it if Volunteer Marek would self-revert. -Thucydides411 (talk) 23:03, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
- The Guardian is a perfectly reliable source. If you really wish to contest that please go to WP:RSN, but I can tell you right now, it's not gonna fly.Volunteer Marek (talk) 23:11, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
- Some judgment is required when editing Misplaced Pages. You can read the original interview, and see how blatantly the Guardian misquotes it. I'm surprised that including defamatory information, which we know to be false, about a living person doesn't bother you. This is a very serious BLP issue, and if you don't self-revert, I'm going to have to bring this to the BLP noticeboard. -Thucydides411 (talk) 23:25, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Thucydides411: I've re-reverted. Volunteer Marek is a long-time anti-Russian POV-pusher though, so I don't doubt this will have to be taken to a drama board, somewhere Marek is very comfortable unfortunately. lNeverCry 02:35, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, with a comment like that you're not going to be taken seriously. Please read WP:NPA and then make a constructive comment addressing content not editors.Volunteer Marek (talk) 06:20, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
- That comment will be taken seriously by anyone who really knows you. Misplaced Pages would be a better place with you banned. lNeverCry 06:43, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, with a comment like that you're not going to be taken seriously. Please read WP:NPA and then make a constructive comment addressing content not editors.Volunteer Marek (talk) 06:20, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Thucydides411: I've re-reverted. Volunteer Marek is a long-time anti-Russian POV-pusher though, so I don't doubt this will have to be taken to a drama board, somewhere Marek is very comfortable unfortunately. lNeverCry 02:35, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
- Some judgment is required when editing Misplaced Pages. You can read the original interview, and see how blatantly the Guardian misquotes it. I'm surprised that including defamatory information, which we know to be false, about a living person doesn't bother you. This is a very serious BLP issue, and if you don't self-revert, I'm going to have to bring this to the BLP noticeboard. -Thucydides411 (talk) 23:25, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
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