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Happy New Year Robert McClenon!

Request on 16:35:01, 1 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Kaykris

• Kaykris (talk · contribs)
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I submitted an article for creation entitled: Evidence-based Anatomy. I got a message explaining that it could not be published because of copyright issue. However, I own the copyright of the material I wrote- I published it in open access where i paid to have all the rights; the material is from a publication of mine that I own the copyright to (Yammine K. Evidence-based anatomy. Clinical Anatomy 014 Sep;27(6):847-52. doi: 10.1002/ca.22397.

Sincerely.

Kaissar

Kaykris (talk) 16:35, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Kaykris - I can no longer view the material in question because it was deleted for copyright violation. However, even if you own the copyright, it is likely that Misplaced Pages cannot accept the material as is, because everything in Misplaced Pages is under a CC-BY-SA copyleft. In order to have the material published, you will need to release the copyright for use by others in accordance with the copyleft. If you have more questions about Misplaced Pages and copyright, you can ask at the Teahouse or the Help Desk, and they will probably say what I have said. (I don't think I have completely misunderstood.) Robert McClenon (talk) 17:18, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

15:19:38, 2 January 2017 review of submission by Santapc

• Santapc (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Anjan Kundu (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Fixed all the errors in red in the page

thanks, Robert. Have made those sections into a list form as that was more apt for the technical topics — Preceding unsigned comment added by Santapc (talk • contribs) 15:48, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Santapc - I do not normally follow a draft through the review process. Thank you for your attention to the points that I made on review. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:53, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

23:23:45, 2 January 2017 review of submission by Rag danneskjold

• Rag danneskjold (talk · contribs)
  • User:Rag danneskjold/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello and thank you for considering what I hope to be my first Misplaced Pages entry. There were to issues that reviewers flagged, I have addressed one by adding several more sources.

Your suggestion was to merge the entry, on the speech of the US Ambassador to the UN, into the larger entry regarding UN Security Council Resolution 2334. I originally wrote about the speech because the speech received adequate coverage independently and will be significant as part of U.S. Middle East Policy (this, and a speech given last week by U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry). Also the article I authored regarding the speech goes into significant detail -- detail which is lacking for the other members of the Security Council.

Nevertheless I did attempt to go into the page on UN Security Council resolution 2334 and make my addition. The page, however, unlike most pages on Misplaced Pages, does not allow me to make any additions.

I would like to resubmit my entry and perhaps have it linked in the article on 2334, however, I do not want you to think I disregarded your guidance. Please advise on what you think is best given this situation. Thank you in advance for reviewing this first entry of mine. I'm hoping in the future as I get better I'll be able to do this without issue. Rag danneskjold (talk) 23:23, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Rag danneskjold - I have looked into the context further. The parent article has been given extended-confirmed protection in accordance with the third Palestine-Israel arbitration case, so that it can only be edited by editors with 30 days and 500 edits, due to frequent sockpuppetry with regard to articles about the Arab-Israeli conflicts. This is why you were unable to edit the article. I will have to look into whether you would be allowed to create a new article in the area of Israel and Palestine, such as the US rationale on Security Council 2334. I will ask further. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:49, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for looking into this. I looks forward to hearing your response. I understand the need to ensure that posts are not manipulated in a biased manner (and being a scholar of Middle East issues and the Arab-Israeli conflict I understand how fraught the subject is). Rag danneskjold (talk) 19:08, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Blue Swords article

FYI that I removed the A1 tags on the 1970-73 Blue Swords articles that you placed. Was able to find out what it was talking about and think link to the main article in the infobox. They could still use some work, and I'm not sure if they should have their own articles (I am not an expert on international figure skating...) Just letting you know in case you want to improve them or tag them as something else. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:15, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

War of the Pacific arbitration case opened

You were recently listed as a party to or recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/War of the Pacific. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/War of the Pacific/Evidence. Please add your evidence by January 17, 2017, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/War of the Pacific/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:30, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

11:29:36, 3 January 2017 review of submission by J.Kaesser

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Dear Sir, my submission is a result of a much broader theory of unification. To explain the background of the mentionned character of Dark matter would mean presenting all the ToE. This would mean a totally different, lengthy article. But as this article would be based on the same publications as the old one - as a free researcher it is difficult to get an idea published and to find out whether anybody did cite it- I fear that it will be also rejected. So maybe you can give me a hint how I can improve my publication status. With best regards Jürgen Kässer

11:49:28, 3 January 2017 review of submission by J.Kaesser

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  • User:J.Kaesser/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear Robert McClenon, my submission is a result of a much broader alternative theory of unification. Explaining in detail the background of the mentionned character of Dark matter needs presenting all the ToE. This would mean a totally different, lengthy article. But as this article would be based on the same publications as the old one - as a free researcher it is difficult to get an idea published and to find out whether anybody did cite it- I fear that it will be also rejected. So maybe you can give me a hint how I can improve my publication status. With best regards Juergen Kaesser

User:J.Kaesser - It appears that you are saying that this is a new alternative Theory of Everything, but that it has not previously been published in a physical journal. If that is correct, Misplaced Pages is not the place to publish it. Has your theory previously been published? If not, the original research policy applies. Misplaced Pages only covers what has already been covered by reliable sources, primarily secondary sources. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:45, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

If you want to know where initially to publish a new theory, you might ask other physicists at WP:WikiProject Physics. If you have questions about Misplaced Pages policy, you may ask at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:45, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Do you have any other questions? Robert McClenon (talk) 15:45, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hi Robert, I just wanted to say happy New Year, and to thank you again for all your help in getting my article published. It's thrilling, being able to contribute, and your help was invaluable. Health and happiness! Aaronchaotix (talk) 23:27, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Request for assistance at Earthquake prediction

Hello Robert,

Last July, you commented briefly on an RfC at Earthquake prediction. We are having problems again at the article, and I am trying to formulate a new RfC that will lead to a more definitive outcome than the last one. I was hoping you could take a few minutes to look at what I've proposed, and at @J. Johnson:'s objections, and help us formulate a useful RfC? Thanks. JerryRussell (talk) 02:11, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

User:JerryRussell - I haven't yet looked at the page. I will say that the key to any successful RFC is stating the question concisely and neutrally. (Many RFCs are not stated concisely and neutrally, starting off argumentatively or vaguely). I will also say that I personally think that earthquake prediction is fringe science, and that it should be presented as fringe science, but that any RFC needs to be neutral. I will look at the article talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:52, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Robert, thanks for your advice about the RfC. @J. Johnson: still thinks the RfC is a misfire. He wrote:

...you seem intent on ignoring the advice Robert and I have given you on "how ... to get the most useful feedback". To wit, to "pose the pose the question in a concise and neutral way", and to focus on a single question. You have chosen to ignore that, so there is little reason to expect this RfC to be any more successful than any before, and for all the usual reasons.

Now, I plead guilty to ignoring JJ's advice to focus on a single question. To me, this is a manifestation of JJ's ownership behavior: he would be happy if we spend two months debating one single question, while he can continue to dominate everything else in the article.

However, I did try to follow your advice, to make the RfC as concise and neutral as I could. Would you do me one last favor, and take a look at my 'finalized', active version of the RfC? Talk:Earthquake_prediction#RfC_on_Earthquake_prediction_2 If I've violated your advice, please come back here and continue a discussion of where I've gone wrong.

Or if the RfC looks OK to you, perhaps you could copy or re-iterate your opinions on the RfC questions, as you expressed them in our "third opinion" consultation?

Also, would it be considered appropriate to make a list of editors who have participated in discussions at the talk page since the July RfC, and ping them? JerryRussell (talk) 03:11, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

User:JerryRussell - Okay, I will take a look tomorrow. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:16, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Robert, thanks for your votes at the RfC. Regarding my first two questions, is there some way that the wording could be changed to make the result more useful? The questions did elicit the response from you that I was hoping for, namely that This article should both discuss the fringe science as fringe science and present the mainstream view that earthquake prediction is not currently feasible.

In the previous discussion about the RfC, I would say that JJ has argued strenuously against these interpretations of the policies. My intended "use" for the questions, was to demonstrate the contrast between JJ's view, and the editorial consensus. Are you saying that is not a useful purpose? JerryRussell (talk) 16:13, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

19:17:32, 5 January 2017 review of submission by Slynharris

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  • Draft:Manufacturing Technology, Inc. (MTI) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello Robert. As you can seen we have submitted this article several times and the main reason for refusal has been lack of notable sources. We have talked online with other editors have done additional research. When we look at a similar company - KUKA (which does have an article on wikipedia), we are in line with our quantity and quality of references. Therefore, we are confused and would really appreciate additional assistance if possible. How many or what other types of sources do you need? The company isn't great at PR so articles written about them are not plentiful. Please advise if you would. Thank you! SlynharrisSlynharris (talk) 19:18, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Slynharris - I would have been able to help you more if you had asked me a few days ago. Your article was deleted by User:RHaworth as unambiguous advertising. You should discuss that with the deleting administrator. I will comment that articles on companies that are declined may be declined either for notability reasons or for tone reasons, and it would appear from the history that both are applicable. I will remind you that Misplaced Pages may not be used as a means to advertise or promote your company. I will also ask you what your affiliation is with the company. If you have any affiliation with the company, it must be declared in accordance with the conflict of interest guideline. You say that the "company isn't great at PR so articles written about them are not plentiful". That statement appears to be doubly irrelevant. First, it appears that you are doing the PR for the company. Second, articles written for PR purposes are not what we look for to establish corporate notability. If you have any further general questions, you may ask at the Teahouse. If you have specific questions, ask User:RHaworth. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:01, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Dre Manning

Hi there. I declined the speedy request on Dre Manning based on your objection on the talk page but changed it to WP:PROD since I can't find reliable sources about the subject. Please see if you can edit this article so it meets WP:NMUSIC, otherwise it will be deleted anyway. Also, remember that per WP:CSD every non-creator user can remove a speedy tag in good faith. Regards SoWhy 11:53, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Request on 05:47:54, 7 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Medyamax

• Medyamax (talk · contribs)
  • User:Esther Nash (2) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

As you reviewed my article and see that i have a old version of draft makes it dublicate and i request it to be removed so i can re-submit my article as properly. Besides that I made the suggested corrections to my article. It is quiet complicated for me to figure out how to delete it. pls. I need your kind help. Thank you. Medyamax (talk) 05:47, 7 January 2017 (UTC) Medyamax (talk) 05:47, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Medyamax - First, did you create the older draft, and do you want it deleted? Second, your only edits have been to the Esther Nash draft. Are you working for Esther Nash? What is your association with her? If you have a connection with her, please declare it in accordance with the conflict of interest guideline. Third, the references are not in the form of footnotes, which are required for a biography of a living person. If you need help with the footnotes, ask for help at the Teahouse, but be prepared for comments that the draft does not establish her notability. Fourth, I don't think that the establishes her notability, but I haven't reviewed it in depth. If you want the comments of other experienced editors, you may ask at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:57, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Organizational behavior

User:Robert McClenon, it has been three weeks since I placed on its talk page a request for comment (rfcid=480D2F3) regarding proposed changes in the organizational behavior (OB) entry. No comments have been made over the three weeks. Specifically, I requested comments regarding (a) moving the list of contributing disciplines toward the bottom of the entry and (b) focusing the list more tightly on disciplines or subdisciplines (e.g., social psychology) that were close contributors to OB, rather than disciplines that contribute to virtually all social sciences (e.g., statistics) or have barely contributed to OB (e.g., biological anthropology as proposed by Happydays). Would it be appropriate for me to begin editing the contributing disciplines list given that there have been no comments in the three weeks since I posted an rfc? Iss246 (talk) 16:05, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Iss246 - Be bold and go ahead and edit, but the final result should be consistent with the RFC. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:18, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Robert McClenon, Thank you. I will do my best. Iss246 (talk) 01:16, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Stop normalizing AfD

Giving you a heads up since you put the first prod on Stop Normalizing Alt Right Chrome extension. If you feel like commenting you can here: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Stop Normalizing Alt Right Chrome extension. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:02, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Response by author on International Day of Planetaria page

Thanks for the feedback! Some history might help. The IDP was organized in Italy and is supported by the International Planetarium Society, but the IPS has never taken ownership of it. There is a change in leadership in IPS and we are trying to reinvigorate the society, especially the international aspect. Several planetariums have observed the day (as you can see in the references), but there is a lack of focus on the goals and a confusion on how the goals are to be accomplished. This is the last year for the day in its current format. In 2018 it will become International Day of Planetariums (and so sorry, I need to change the title to Planetaria for this year). It will expand to an option of two days and will have clearly-defined goals and how to meet them. It will take a while for me to get everything together on the IPS website to properly promote it. I am the editor of Planetarian, the IPS journal, a post I have had for the last 10 years. IPS is *entirely* volunteer, and since my retirement from my planetarium position I have been working nearly fulltime on other areas of communication, promotion, and image building. There is hopes that one day we might have an executive director, which we desperately need, but unless/until we can increase our membership we cannot fund the position. So - the wiki entry is one of the things I could think of to legitimize and publicize the day that doesn't cost money. :)

Thanks for reading. Sharon Slshanks42 (talk) 01:18, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Slshanks42 - You may have a misunderstanding of what the purpose of Misplaced Pages is. It is not a medium for you to use to "legitimize and publicize" an organization or event. If the organization or event has not already had substantial coverage by secondary reliable sources, it isn't notable. If you want to discuss further what is and is not appropriate at Misplaced Pages, you may ask other experienced editors at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:56, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

More on International Day of Planetaria

The International Planetarium Society is trying to become a more-recognized international organization - or, one of the organizations "that declare international observances but are not as widely recognized."

It is a small organization - not nearly as large as the Astronomical Society of the Pacific, the museum alliance, ASTC, and certainly not as large as the American Astronomical Society or the International Astronomical Union.

We are small because there are so many more astronomers than there are planetarians. We are also very - very - hard to classify or categorize. You cannot get a degree to become a planetarian, although there are planetarians with terminal degrees - Neil deGrasse Tyson is director of the Hayden Planetarium in NYC, for example. Dennis Simopoulos is the retired director of the Eugenides Planetarium in Athens.

We are science communicators - mostly. We are artists - some of us. We are public presenters - some of us. We are computer programmers, graphic artists, teachers, and composers - some of us. There are an estimated 4,145 planetariums in the world, according to Loch Ness Productions - some as large and exciting as the Hayden and the Adler in Chicago, and others as small as one-person mobile domes in every corner of the world.

I think my wording placed me in a catch-22 situation: that an international day sponsored by the IPS cannot become more recognized without a presence on Misplaced Pages, but because it is not well know, it cannot have a presence on Misplaced Pages?

Thanks again.Slshanks42 (talk) 02:36, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Slshanks42 - Unfortunately, I have to be negative. You are hardly the first person who has come into Misplaced Pages to establish a name for an organization. However, getting an article in Misplaced Pages is not the way to establish a name for an organization. It is a way to document an organization that is already notable otherwise. If you want to discuss further, you may come to the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:06, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Deprodding of Return to earth

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Return to earth, which you proposed for deletion. I am leaving this message here to notify you about it. The article about the film will be notable due to its subject matter. Article can be preserved and tagged that it needs refs. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to it. Instead, feel free to list the article at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion. Thanks! DonFB (talk) 07:48, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Ehsan Sehgal

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Ehsan Sehgal. Legobot (talk) 04:23, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Proposed Deletion

Hi. I noticed that you've proposed for deletion an article (Political Game Theory) which I've only just created and am still in the process of writing. Isn't this a little premature? It seems a bit harsh since I've only just created the page as a stub and am just getting started on it.

wayland (talk) 22:49, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Wayland - To be honest, no. I wasn't premature. Some reviewers say that a reviewer shouldn't tag an article for deletion until it has been in article space for 15 minutes. Your article was in article space for half an hour, and was and is unready to be in article space, because it has no references and does not make a credible claim of significance. If, as it appears, you plan to work slowly on the article, it can be moved into draft space, where you will have plenty of time. Now that you have removed the PROD tag, neither I nor anyone else can PROD it again, but it can be nominated for deletion at Articles for Deletion, where it will probably be deleted. Do you want me to move the stub to draft space? If not, it is still likely to be deleted. Article space isn't for unreferenced very incomplete articles. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:55, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

I am not aware of draft space. Please give a link to a Misplaced Pages page which explains draft space. wayland (talk) 15:20, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) User:Wayland, Robert is correct. If you don't have at least a few sources to start an article with, it's usually better to work on it in your sandbox prior to publishing it as an article. New unsourced articles are very likely to be deleted. TimothyJosephWood 01:24, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

See WP:Drafts. I will move your article to draft space. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:30, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

I think I may owe you an apology Mr. McClenon. Draft pages didn't exist when I did most of my Misplaced Pages editing (quite a few years ago) and the fault is mine for not staying up to date with more recent developments. I see now that draft pages were introduced in 2013. Thank you for updating me. wayland (talk) 18:03, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank You

I just wanted to thank you for giving me my first barnstar. I am a high school student, just starting to edit wikipedia. P.S. I see we are both share the same faith :) - User:Mothman27 —Preceding undated comment added 03:58, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Request on 17:29:42, 14 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Rozybienert

• Rozybienert (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Telecoming (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I was wondering what improvements can be made on this article in order to make it a more suitable encyclopedical content. In my opinion the language used is quite neutral and free from adjectives which may indicate a precise positioning regarding the content. Nonetheless, I am determined to follow your advice concerning the content adaptations. I would be really thankful if you could give me some examples on how to improve it. Many thanks Rozy(Rozybienert (talk) 17:29, 14 January 2017 (UTC)) < of message -->Rozybienert (talk) 17:29, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

I have looked over your draft and will ask for the comments of other experienced editors at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:59, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Many thanks. I would be really thankful if you could provide me with specific guidance to improve and adapt the content. (Rozybienert (talk) (～～～～) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rozybienert (talk • contribs) 16:26, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi again, regarding Telecoming´s page and following Misplaced Pages´s guidance, I have included solid external references on the firm, which are independent to it´s activity (deleting media and other "promotional" sources) and in which the company has no influential capacity. In addition, the page has encyclopedical value, since it provides neutral information on a Spanish company´s core business and on its evolution, with a purely information angle which could be useful for readers to understand the nature of the firm´s activity ) Please let me know, how could I adapt the contribution to Misplaced Pages´s standards, since I am really willing to collaborate (Rozybienerts (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rozybienert (talk • contribs) 11:09, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Rolfing dispute

Hi Robert, Thanks for reviewing. I am confused, because I cannot find the Rolfing section on the archive of the dispute board, and I question whether this is another sign of foul play. I would love for evidence to exist that this dispute was raised, and that other editors were not interested in utilizing mediation for resolution. Thanks Cyintherye (talk) 18:56, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Here Roxy the dog. bark 19:26, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Cynintherye, User:Roxy the dog - There was some error in closing and archiving the dispute, and it is closed with a previous dispute. I will try to fix it. In the meantime, it is in the last dispute in the archive. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:31, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

The case above this one didn't have an archive bottom, and so swallowed the remaining cases. Fixed. The rules say that one shouldn't edit an archive, but that doesn't mean not to fix an archive that is incorrect. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:40, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Subst AfD

Hi Robert McClenon. When nominating an article for deletion, as you did with Hot Go Spring Paradise, please remember to substitute the template like this: {{subst:Article for deletion}}. This way we assure the inclusion of the hidden text that enables the javascript most often used for closing AfD discussions to remove the {{Article for deletion}} template from the article. I removed it manually from Hot Go Spring Paradise. Thank you. — Sam Sailor 23:22, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Sam Sailor - Okay. Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:32, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Ryan Blacketter

Dear Robert McClenon,

I would like to ask that the page Ryan Blacketter: Draft be removed. While I appreciate the early interest in my book by a contributor two years ago--and the more recent revisions submitted by a different contributor a few months ago--I absolutely do not believe my single indie novel warrants any mention in an encyclopedia. Again I appreciate the interest that these authors have shown, and I have every respect for Misplaced Pages, but I have had a dead Deleted Draft Wiki link on my Google pages for some time, and I wish to have it removed. My fan base is quite small. Perhaps one day my successes will warrant such a page but I am certainly not there yet.

Ryanblacketter (talk) 02:48, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

The topic appears to be Draft:Ryan Blacketter. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:01, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Ryanblacketter - I have requested the deletion of the draft as per your request. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:08, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Request for assistance on AfC submission by dmorlitz

I believe that I have removed all of the questionable content based on the original comments. There was a comment about the copyright detector which I am not sure I fully understand. I have tried to run the duplicate detector tool to see the results and I have not gotten the same results as a previous reviewer. I do not believe that any of the content on this page is copyrighted, so I think it is ready to go. Dmorlitz (talk) 12:56, 15 January 2017 (UTC) 07:55am Eastern 15-Jan-2017

may i have the link to my document so i can add citations

Check article

Hi! For Draft:IT4IT Reference Architecture I did another link check here and copyvio check here, added some more refs and made a preliminary clean up. maybe you have another look. ATBWikirictor (talk) 15:35, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Wikirictor, User:Dmorlitz - I will let the two of you continue working on the article. I will only involve myself if asked any specific questions. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:52, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Micro-state? No, I do not think so!

Excuse me Mr. Robert, the Sovereignty of the Order was given in 1113 by Pope Paschal II, the four judgments of the International Courts only recognize the rights of inheritance, not a microstate. If, however, the part of the donation of the island and the communication to the United Nations of its independence could create a questionable situation, for the time you could omit, waiting for final positions. Thanks and best regards. Sebastian60 (talk) 19:41, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Robert Goodfellow

Hello, Robert McClenon. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "Robert Goodfellow".

In accordance with our policy that Articles for Creation is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}} or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Misplaced Pages, and happy editing. 1989 (talk) 23:43, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Hello

Whops! --JustBerry (talk) 04:13, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

User:JustBerry - Thanks. That case is accursed in multiple ways. Thanks. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:15, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Ah, yes. --JustBerry (talk) 04:20, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Request on 05:22:20, 16 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Kangelone

• Kangelone (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Preston Market (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Kangelone (talk) 05:22, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi Robert, I appreciate your feedback and your time in reviewing my proposed Preston Market article. I am a little confused as to why it has not been passed as I have reworked the article with feedback provided from Swister Twister and added relevant links to external and independent articles. Also, I can see that Dandenong Market's page is live (even though it is listed as an orphan page and has recognised issues).

Kind regards, Kangelone (talk) 05:22, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Kangelone - Maybe when you worked with another reviewer you didn't fully understand the feedback that they gave you. You say that you added relevant links to external and independent articles. You didn't add any footnotes, and you didn't add any references in the References section. Also, I declined your draft primarily for tone reasons rather than notability reasons, although I see both. Your draft reads like an advertisement. If you don't understand that, ask for another review at the Teahouse from another reviewer. As to the other article, see other stuff exists; the real issue about it is not whether it presents an argument for accepting your draft (which is not up to acceptance), but whether it also should be deleted. It does have references, which would be the first argument for keeping it, and yours does not. Your draft has external links in the article body. Your draft has peacock language. Are you working for the market? Do you want to ask further questions at the Teahouse? Robert McClenon (talk) 05:42, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Your draft article, User:Zjb1601A/sandbox

Hello, Robert McClenon. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "sandbox".

In accordance with our policy that Articles for Creation is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}} or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Misplaced Pages, and happy editing. 1989 (talk) 10:13, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

14:44:58, 16 January 2017 review of submission by Rozybienert

• Rozybienert (talk · contribs)
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Hi Robert McClenon. The article has been deleted. Please could you share with me recommendations on how to improve Telecoming content, in order to make it more suitable for Misplaced Pages? The language is actually neutral and given the facts portrayed, the information references have been neutral and independent from Telecoming: including media pieces, reports and other independent sources. I would be really grateful for your advice. Firma: (Rozybienert (talk) (Rozybienert (talk) 14:44, 16 January 2017 (UTC)).

@Robert McClenon: Pinging addressee. --JustBerry (talk) 14:49, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Rozybienert - You write: "The article has been deleted." You are confusing me, because the article has not been deleted. It has been declined, which is not the same. If it were deleted, it would no longer be there. It is still there, and can be improved and resubmitted. I suggest that you ask for the comments of other experienced editors at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:00, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Also, Misplaced Pages is more interested in what others have written about the company than about what the company has written about itself, and Misplaced Pages also tends to ignore what the company has asked others to write about it, such as press releasses. My advice is to ask other experienced editors at the Teahouse for comments. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:03, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Rosybienert - Also, your only edits have been with regard to this article. If you have a connection with Telecoming, you should declare it in accordance with the conflict of interest disclosure. If not, you might consider that you would be more easily able to improve Misplaced Pages by helping us with the more than five million articles that we already have than one article that we do not yet have. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:12, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Geographic features

Hello, Robert. I didn't feel comfortable with posting contrary advice at the AfC Help Desk, so I'll just post a brief note here. The notion that geographic places are presumptively notable applies only to populated places. For unpopulated geographic features, suitability for an article depends on whether there are reliable sources that do more than simply verify the existence and location of the feature. This is stated in WP:GEOLAND. NewYorkActuary (talk) 19:07, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

User:NewYorkActuary - Okay. Thank you. We can let the original reviewer comment on whether the references were sufficient to establish notability for the mountains. I have the odd thought that if you can see the mountain from a great distance on a clear day and ask what its name is, it is notable, but that is my thinking. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:39, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

review submission

Hi User:Robert McClenon. Sorry to get back to you this late. I have merged both the drafts of the oroantral page together and it is now ready to be reviewed. Link https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:Oroantral_fistula_(2) .Let me know if there are any changes to be made. Thanks in advance Justryingtohelp (talk) 20:58, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Request on 21:59:50, 18 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Ch2017

• Ch2017 (talk · contribs)
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You reviewed the EERE page and rejected it because it contained copyrighted material. This is an article about a government agency of the U.S. executive branch and contains information available in the public domain. Could you reconsider based on that fact? Or could you please tell me specifically which parts were rejected because of copyright concerns?

We would like to revise and resubmit but now the page is no longer on my sandbox. How do I get it back? Thank you.

Ch2017

Ch2017 (talk) 21:59, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Ch2017 - It appears that the original document that I reviewed has been deleted because of the copyright violation. I can't comment further. Another reviewer has also commented. If you want to edit an existing article, the best thing to do would be to discuss the proposed edits on the article talk page. If you have any general questions, you may ask at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:36, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

deletion of allasch

Hi! Aren't you a wee bit hasty? You've PRODded allasch immediately after the initial version, not even an hour after the first edit. You also claim it is unreferenced, despite it already having been referenced from two other articles and two interwiki links at the time of your PROD. It has no citations yet but even if someone is allergic to doing research it's trivial to copy in German links.

I don't intent to extend the article beyond stub stage, I've created it only because of seeing a horrendous mistranslation in a song's article (vodka is an unflavoured or very mildly flavoured drink -- the very word comes from "water", allasch is intensely flavoured). I think the drink is more notable than that song (for an English reader -- the song is a part of Polish culture but not important elsewhere), even if the drink's popularity outside of Leipzig is mostly historic. - KiloByte (talk) 02:17, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of Civicacy of Milford Schools (Ohio) & deletion of material from Milford High School (Ohio)

A deletion of the Civicacy of Milford Schools (Ohio), as well as deletion of material from the Milford High School (Ohio) was made. The explanation was:

The history of the schools of a pair of counties may not be notable in terms of coverage and awareness of that school system outside those counties, and the title and lead paragraph stating that this article is about "civicacy" and "peoplification", both of which are nonsense words, is a problem, with nothing indicating what material in the rest of the article has anything to do with those.

To the contrary, the sources provided substantiate all of the content derided as "nonsense words." This was not original research. Furthermore, Milford Schools are a system, which include among them Milford High School.

Here are articles and categories which further explain American education:

• History of education in the United States
• School district
• List of school districts in Ohio
• History of Ohio

We love our schools. A separate page with the rich odyssey is deserving in a district of Milford's size. Thank you.--Iolair, Gaelic For Eagle (talk) 22:21, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

There's a discussion at my user talk as well. Might be best not to have too much decentralised discussion about this. Robert, my place or yours? Primefac (talk) 22:28, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Iolair, Gaelic For Eagle, User:Primefac - We can continue at User talk:Primefac. Leave the pre-edit status quo as is or I will suggest that WP:ANI is a better forum. Characterizing the neologisms as nonsense words was harsh but accurate. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:36, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

The Vigilant Christian

I have never understood how how WP:A1 and WP:A7 can be used together. If there isn't enough content to understand what an article is about (A1) how do you know it is an eligible subject for A7? - GB fan 02:49, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

User:GB fan - I am not sure what the subject is, but it appears to be a person. If so, I am not sure who the person is. Is that sufficient context? Robert McClenon (talk) 03:03, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Basically, I am not entirely sure whether it should be A1 or A7, but I am certain that it should be one or the other. Should I tag it as one of them? Robert McClenon (talk) 03:03, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

To me this seams so simple. A1 means the tagger after reading the article does not know what the subject is. If the tagger does not know what the article is about, how can they know it is about one of the eligible subjects that is encompassed by A7? To me these two criteria are mutually exclusive, if one applies the other doesn't.

In this case, if you had looked at the article history you should have seen the last edit before you tagged it, my edit declining A1, six minutes before you tagged it as A1.

This was the article as you tagged it (just an infobox). There is enough there to tell this is a person, where they are from and what they do. It is completely ineligible for A1. When you tagged it I was looking at their YouTube channel. A7 was appropriate but A1 was not. - GB fan 11:07, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. I do agree that they are mutually exclusive, but perhaps you and I understand multiple tagging differently, because I was tagging in the alternative. I don't see the article history and can't, but my recollection is that it hadn't been tagged previously. Okay. In any case, it isn't in article space, and there is a version in draft space which may be being made into a reasonable article. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:45, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

The history had been restored so you can now see it. I declined an A1 at 02:37, 20 January 2017 and the next edit at 02:43, 20 January 2017 is your request for an A1 and A7 deletion. There is some confusion right after that because of hstory merge but those two are clear. - GB fan 11:44, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Okay, User:GB fan - Maybe I made a mistake. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:37, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Mesodinium nuclear code

Thanks for creating Mesodinium nuclear code, Manudouz! Misplaced Pages editor Robert McClenon just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

Interesting. If I am not mistaken, these ciliates, which have slightly different genetic codes, are eukaryotes just like we metazoans (but not quite like us in the genetic code).

Dear Robert. Yes, you're right. We (metazoans) and ciliates are eukaryotes However, the evolutionary split with our unicellular relatives is probably as old as 1,000 million years! And there is an incredible diversity of subtle variations in alternative genetic codes among these ciliates. Manudouz (talk) 22:33, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Manudouz - That's a very long time ago by geological standards, well before the Cambrian explosion. I didn't realize just how different and diverse those ciliates are from us metazoans, as different as they can be and still be eukaryotes, a small world of their own. Interesting. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:35, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Request on 23:39:50, 22 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Medyamax

• Medyamax (talk · contribs)
  • User:Medyamax/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Yes, both article created by me, mistakenly dublicated.. I want the dublicate page to be removed. Regard to other question, if any conflict of interest, I do not have any benefit or money involves regard to submitting this article. I am her colleague, in the past had many art and fashion events attended; my article is to help her recognize since she is known in the fashion, media and art.. I did few other links and improvements, pls. need your kind help on my page to make it ready to submit. Thank you.Medyamax (talk) 23:39, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Medyamax (talk) 23:39, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Medyamax - I have requested that your first draft be deleted. However, your current draft still does not have the references in the form of footnotes, which are required for a biography of a living person. If you need advice on how to insert the footnotes, ask for help at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:24, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Appreciation

Appreciation

Hi there, My name is Harish. I AM NEW TO WIKIPEDIA. Recently you have made a comment on my article {This draft needs copy-editing for grammar and punctuation} titled " Income Computation and Disclosure Standards " ( My first Article ) and I am glad you have made that. I am eagerly awaiting for my first article to be published without any unreasonable delay,of course, if and only if it makes any sense.I am very much grateful to you if there is anything I can do to make my article get published. Eagerly waiting for your reply. Hopy you can feel my euphoria. Thanks again! Harishsama1998 (talk) 17:30, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Request on 09:13:56, 24 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by AmyPetit

• AmyPetit (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Crowdyhouse (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Robert,

Thank you for reviewing my article about CROWDYHOUSE. You say the draft has notability issues which I can understand as I didn't find very good sources and I should look for better ones in order to show why I think this page should be on wikipedia. However you also mention tone issues, but I don't really understand why as I thought I was being neutral here. I am new on wikipedia and it is the first page I am trying to create. I would be glad if you could help me. I would really love to improve my wikipedia contributions.

Have a very good day.

Amélie

AmyPetit (talk) 09:13, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

User:AmyPetit - In looking over your draft, I agree that the tone is neutral, but it doesn't establish notability. If you have further questions, ask at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:20, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

14:44:26, 24 January 2017 review of submission by Prashanthkelahatti

• Prashanthkelahatti (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Anagondanahalli (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear Robert McClenon,

Thanks for reviewing my article "Anagondanahalli", and I would like to highlight few points which would help you in reviewing my article
1. I have added the references to the article.
2. I was born and grown up in this Viallage and I, myself an best reference to it :)
3. Removed the images which was copyright violation - Trust me I am innocent! :) :)

User:Parshantkelahatti - Your personal knowledge of having grown up in the village is not considered a reliable source. If you want our policies explained to you in more detail, ask at the Teahouse. As I explain above, I do not normally follow an article through the approval process, and I will let other reviewers deal with your article, but you should be aware that we require reliable sources. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:18, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Meygal and Mézenc

Thank you for your answer and sorry for my late reply.
I didn't know this difference between "deleted" and "declined" (it doesn't exists on the French Wikipédia). Thank you for this information.
I didn't know either that the French and the English Misplaced Pages have different standards. Thank you too for this information.
The problem is solved concerning Meygal, as I see. I'm pleased to note it. I added sources for Mont Mézenc. Is it good now? Cordially. Jean Fume (talk) 01:40, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Jean Fume - If one of your drafts has been accepted, then maybe that answers that question. I will look at the other one shortly. As I said, the English Misplaced Pages and the French Misplaced Pages are two different projects and may have different guidelines. If you have any more questions, ask at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:51, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

OK, thank you. Jean Fume (talk) 03:05, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

So Japanese wikipedia isn't reliable huh?

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This is why people don't waste their time contributing here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rzombie1988 (talk • contribs) 05:15, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Rzombie1988: WP:CIRC を読んでください。EvergreenFir (talk) 05:19, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Hi Rzombie1988. Just for reference, Misplaced Pages does not even consider itself to be a reliable sources when it comes to Misplaced Pages article per WP:WPNOTRS. Article content added/edited/removed by anyone with Internet access, so there's no assurance that what is written is 100% accurate 100% of the time. Article content is only intended to reflect what is said about the subject in reliable sources, so it's best to treat any content which is not supported by a citation to a reliable source with care. Moreover, as someone who actually edits occasionally on Japanese Misplaced Pages, I say you need to be pretty careful in simply assuming that what's written there is accurate because the standard of sourcing common to Japanese Misplaced Pages does not seem to be as vigorous as to what's in place here on English Misplaced Pages. I'm not claiming that Misplaced Pages is perfect and everything you'll find on Japanese Misplaced Pages is WP:OR, but the former does seem to be doing a better overall job of adhering to the five pillars than the latter in my opinion. If you can find reliable sources used in a Japanese Misplaced Pages article which support the information you want to add to an English Misplaced Pages article, then you can use them per WP:NOENG. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:35, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

• OP blocked. Ian.thomson (talk) 06:09, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Attack page titles

When tagging a page with an attack title, pleasedon't mark it as patrolled. When you do, you're giving the attack a little more publicity. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:12, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Od Mishehu - That sounds like an issue with how Twinkle does the tagging. I will inquire about how to deal with that. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:16, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Drifting Sun

Hi Robert,

Thanks for your message. I don't really have much else to add, my article is what it is, I would of course be willing to improve its contents but it has been rejected for the reason that the references I have provided for it aren't good enough apparently. These are fully verifiable sources from genuine magazines, some of which have a fairly high profile within the progressive rock world, if that's not good enough for wikipedia then so be it.Fasching web radio (talk) 15:59, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Fasching web radio - The obvious sticking point with Draft:Drifting Sun is that you have provided an overwhelmingly long list of references, but none of them are in the form of footnotes. If you feel that putting the references into the form of footnotes is too much work, then maybe creating a new article with its sources is not the way that you want to contribute to Misplaced Pages. If you simply are having difficulty with references, ask for help at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:50, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Request on 15:24:06, 26 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Kaykris

• Kaykris (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Evidence-based anatomy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear Robert, I was chatting yesterday with Huon, and i replied to all his questions. The name of the center (Center for Evidence-based Anatomy, Sports and Orthopedic Research) was indeed created on 2009, by that time the center started their research in meta-analyses and they published 2 orthopedic meta-analyses (1. Efficacy of preparation solutions and cleansing techniques on contamination of the skin in foot and ankle surgery A SYSTEMATIC REVIEW AND META-ANALYSIS, and 2. Antegrade intramedullary nailing for fifth metacarpal neck fractures: A systematic review and meta-analysis) then continued with anatomical meta-analyses which took long time to be accomplished before publication. And then only after 3 anatomical meta-analyses (MA) publications that the concept of evidence-based anatomy has been published (based on the know how and the experience gained by performing such MA). Huon asked me whether any poles stated that Kaissar Yammine was the first who created this concept and I replied by yes; and i added the title of the published paper which confirmed this claim (I sent him the full text manuscript). He also asked me to develop a bit more the general overview of the topic , which i did. Thank you for your support Kaykris

Kaykris (talk) 15:24, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

15:38:43, 26 January 2017 review of submission by Kaykris

• Kaykris (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Evidence-based anatomy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear Robert, I was chatting yesterday with Huon, and i replied to all his questions. The name of the center (Center for Evidence-based Anatomy, Sports and Orthopedic Research) was indeed created on 2009, by that time the center started their research in meta-analyses and they published 2 orthopedic meta-analyses (1. Efficacy of preparation solutions and cleansing techniques on contamination of the skin in foot and ankle surgery A SYSTEMATIC REVIEW AND META-ANALYSIS, and 2. Antegrade intramedullary nailing for fifth metacarpal neck fractures: A systematic review and meta-analysis) then continued with anatomical meta-analyses which took long time to be accomplished before publication. And then only after 3 anatomical meta-analyses (MA) publications that the concept of evidence-based anatomy has been published (based on the know how and the experience gained by performing such MA). Huon asked me whether any poles stated that Kaissar Yammine was the first who created this concept and I replied by yes; and i added the title of the published paper which confirmed this claim (I sent him the full text manuscript). He also asked me to develop a bit more the general overview of the topic , which i did. Thank you for your support Kaykris

User:Kaykris - I have re-read the draft, and I find it incomprehensible. I do not normally follow a draft through the approval process. If another reviewer or User:Huon approves it, then it is approved, although, if so, I may tag it as needing rework. I will not approve it in its current form because I find it incomprehensible. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:48, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Parashar bapu

Sir help me to show my Misplaced Pages site Parashar bapu 18:01, 26 January 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parashar bapu (talk • contribs)

Please comment on Talk:Donald Trump

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Donald Trump. Legobot (talk) 04:23, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Oh dear you have beaten me, keep up! :) ~ Junior5a (Talk) Cont 23:16, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Charlie Goh

I have not completed creating the page so there is no references. So can you don't be so impatient and just wait till I'm done?

User:CO16 - First, don't put an article into article space until it is ready, meaning until it has its references. Second, when you have put in the references, you can pull the WP:BLPPROD tag, but every biography of a living person must have at least one reference. If you want to know how to create an article in user space so that it will not be tagged for deletion, ask for help at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:59, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Ok I have done it now. I will not put into article space until I have done it. CO16 (talk) 12:34, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

DRN Not showing my Username

Heya Robert! I was just wondering if you could help me with something - I've recently become part of the Dispute Resolution Moderation Team, and I've added my name and the such, but when I resolved an issue, it hasn't added my username under 'Last Volunteer Edit': https://puu.sh/tEQQr/b544b7ebcd.png

See how JustBerry is put there, not me, even though I was the last person to post to the dispute. Do you know how I can fix this? Have a good day, ItsPugle (Talk) 01:11, 30 January 2017 (UTC) @Robert McClenon:

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Adam9007. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, The company party, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Adam9007 (talk) 03:46, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Kittens!

Stevie jean (talk) 03:50, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Talkback

Have a good day, ItsPugle (Talk) at 05:57, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

telco production afd

Please declined this article Telco Productions Inc.Open Source 2.0 check me 02:44, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello Robert, As suggested by you, I had made necessary changes to improve the readability of the article and located many published references to support the articles authenticity, kindly view the updated version and consult with your colleagues at the Teahouse. The link for your reference is https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Draft:Puttana_Venkatramana_Raju&oldid=735790825Rajendrarajun (talk) 08:39, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of Article Mahavir Singh (freedom fighter)

Dear Robert, You requested speedy deletion of the article Mahavir Singh (freedom fighter). I have given new information to the article along with references and a picture. I hope you will understand why it should not be deleted. Regards, Protyay Mukhopadhyay Che12PM 15:36, 1 February 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Che12Guevara (talk • contribs)

Draft:Peerless Network

Hi Robert - you deleted my article submission for Peerless Network claiming that it didn't meet the criteria for "significant" mention. I've searched, and there really doesn't seem to be a definition of what significant means to wikipedia. Perhaps you can direct me to a formal, quantifiable definition? I do find it odd that a few editors have used this claim, but all provide different reasons - not enough articles (I've provided over a dozen); no "high profile" mentions (really Inc. and Crain's aren't high-profile? How about Misplaced Pages itself?); hasn't been in business for at least 10 years (this one made me laugh out loud).

At this point, I'm really uninterested in posting to wikipedia as it seems that all the editors want to do is deny "newbies" the ability to post an article. You guys use the claim that I haven't shown significant notability - but each editor uses different criteria, and you can't provide a solid definition. And when I suggest that my article is more meaty than many on wikipedia, they throw the argument that I can't use other articles as a guide, since there is a lot of junk on wikipedia (I personally find that hysterical). Then I typically get hit with the assertion that I must work for the company and must provide a conflict of interest disclosure (I don't work for them, my neighbor does and I thought it would be a good learning ground - it was, just not in the way that I anticipated).

The fact is that the company is notable - and probably handles most of your phone calls - whether you are aware of it or there was an article written about it. That's because it runs one of the largest US tandem networks and has invented systems that allow your calls to travel as successfully and cheaply as they do.

Not sure how to delete the article completely from the system - but that is probably what needs to happen since I can't improve it anymore that what I've already provided. And for the record - I did go to the Teahouse a while back, but the system wasn't working and I never did get a response to my inquiry. Jlk0221 (talk) 21:03, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

User:Jlk0221 - I am not sure whether you are asking a question or whether you are just expressing an opinion. I will comment that I didn't delete your submission. It is still in draft space. I declined to move it from draft space into article space. I don't know whether you want to discuss its notability, or just are frustrated. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:19, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

You made statements above about what Peerless technology does in routing calls that go beyond what is in the article, and could make a better case for notability. Why not add them, with reliable sources, to the draft? Robert McClenon (talk) 21:21, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Question about the EERE page

Hey there! Sorry to bother. But since you seem like a very experienced user (and you've kinda-sorta dealt with some of this already), I wanted to ask you a little question. A few weeks ago, you chatted with user:ch2017, who left a post here on your talk page after she created a draft article in her sandbox that she wanted to replace the EERE article with. (It was later deleted for copyright issues.) I'm one of her colleagues, and I'm helping out because I know a bit more about Misplaced Pages. (I've never really had a permanent account, but I used to spend a lot of time reading up on WP policy and editing as an anon.)

Anyway, long story short: I did a major overhaul of her draft and its sources (that's at User:Es2017/sandbox) to fix the citations and language. I've:

1. Posted on COI/N. 2. Posted on the EERE talk page.

... But I haven't gotten a response to the first, and the second is absolutely dead. user:ch2017 previously tried to submit her draft directly from her sandbox to AFC, but since this isn't a totally new article, I don't know if that's the best approach. What's the best place to get a review on a draft if the talk page doesn't seem to be working? Es2017 (talk) 16:08, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

User:Es2017 User:ch2017 - I haven't looked at COIN. I do see that there is no response on the talk pages. If you want advice of other editors or a review by more editors, you can ask at the Teahouse, or you can find an appropriate WikiProject, but I am not sure what WikiProject is appropriate. However, if you want action rather than discussion, you can be bold and, as an uninvolved editor (if you don't have a conflict of interest), move to sandbox content to the article page in one edit. If anyone dislikes that, they will revert, and you can discuss. If so, do not make the bold edit a second time; that would be edit-warring. So either go to the Teahouse for more comments, or be bold and replace the article. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:22, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your quick response! :) This is very helpful. Unfortunately, I definitely do have a COI, so I'll give the Teahouse a shot. Es2017 (talk) 16:26, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

At the Teahouse, you might either get a non-conflict-of-interest editor to pursue the edits further or be directed to a WikiProject. Thank you for asking reasonable question. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:34, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

16:57:33, 2 February 2017 review of submission by Kaykris

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Dear Robert,

Just to know whether you had time to send the article https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:Evidence-based_anatomy to an other reviewer as you mentioned it in your last comment you sent to me.

Sincerely.

Kaykris

User:Kaykris - I had not been planning to ask another reviewer to review it, but to let you submit it for review by another reviewer. Do you want me to ask for review at the Teahouse? I still find much of it incomprehensible, and that may be a bias on my part. Do you want me to ask for another review at the Teahouse? Robert McClenon (talk) 17:05, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

17:09:41, 2 February 2017 review of submission by Kaykris

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Yes please.

17:20:45, 2 February 2017 review of submission by Kaykris

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Will I be able to receive the comments in the Teahouse by email if I am not logged in?

User:Kaykris - While Misplaced Pages does support the ability to email a user, it shouldn't be the usual way to get feedback, especially not on a draft, where feedback really should be viewable by the community. Email feedback really should only be used in special situations where privacy is preferred. If you aren't logged in, you can log in and look for feedback. I will ask for feedback at the Teahouse, but it will be in Misplaced Pages, not by email. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:29, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

17:31:38, 2 February 2017 review of submission by Kaykris

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I got it , thank you

Draft:Peerless Network again

I agree that the information about Peerless' contributions is important, and originally had them in the article, but was told that they could not be substantiated and I should remove them. I guess I was kinda doing both - asking a question and voicing frustration - the question being - what or where is the formal definition or guidelines on notability and significance? The frustration part is that I can't find one/either, and everyone one seems to have their own ideas on this. My other frustration is that I can't seem to get this article published even though I believe that I've followed the guidelines AND the article is just as strong if not stronger than many other articles (which I am told isn't a good argument - regardless of whether true or not), clearly isn't an advertisement, and Peerless is already mentioned in Misplaced Pages (or at least their subsidiary is). I'm kinda thinking that if I was a more seasoned writer, perhaps this article would be approved. I'd certainly appreciate your help if you are willing - but will say at the onset that there are no additional references to pull - these are all there are. I can certainly add back in the information on the patents and such if you think it would be helpful. Thanks and sorry for the frustration. Jlk0221 (talk) 19:43, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

User:Jlk0221 - I would suggest that you ask your questions, including about notability guidelines, at the Teahouse, but you previously said that you weren't satisfied with your experience there. I don't really have much to say further, other than to try the Teahouse again, and that I will reply at more length later. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:27, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

oroantral fistula page

Hi robert. I've previously posted in your talk page about the Oroantral fistula draft that is ready to be reviewed but have not gotten a reply from you since. Just wondering whether you're currently reviewing the page or it is put on hold for some reason? Anyways I have merged both the drafts of the oroantral page together link https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:Oroantral_fistula_(2) Thanks in advance Justryingtohelp (talk) 16:42, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

User:Justryingtohelp - I have too much history with the article and will let someone else review it. Have you checked on the review at WP:MED? Robert McClenon (talk) 17:38, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

I can't seem to find any review of it in WP:MED , can you please link me to it? Justryingtohelp (talk) 13:23, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

User:Justryingtohelp - That request appears to have scrolled into the archive. I am not planning to review that draft again after it had had copyright violation, and after all the confusion about multiple drafts. Please either wait for it to come up, or make another request at WT:MED, or request a review or advice at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:30, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

If you can't bother to ping me, how am I to know you expect a response?

I had no idea there was anything being discussed at Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution noticeboard#Talk:American Legislative Exchange Council.23Section .22Convening the first U.S. state constitutional convention.22 because I'm not watching the page and you failed to correctly ping me. Next time you create red links, you might consider investigating why that is. This is a competency issue. Chris Troutman (talk) 20:12, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker), Don't you think that may be just a touch of WP:ABF? TimothyJosephWood 20:42, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

@Timothyjosephwood: Not at all. I'm not doubting Robert McClenon's interest in helping. He made an assumption that my last name was capitalized (it's not because I mistyped when I created the account) and when pinging me he didn't notice the red links. This could have been prevented with previewing the edit and there's also an option under preferences for the system to warn you when you mis-ping. And yet, the pings didn't work. I didn't want him to think I was ignoring the conversation at ANEW; I simply assumed it was done. Accusing someone of screwing up isn't attributing anything to motives, just attention to detail. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:59, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to interrupt about a detail here, but where is this option under preferences for the system to warn me when I mis-ping, please, Chris troutman? I'd quite like to have that. Bishonen | talk 22:28, 3 February 2017 (UTC).

@Bishonen: Absolutely. Preferences -> notifications -> "failed mention" and/or "successful mention." I learned about this in a Signpost technology report late last year; thanks to Matěj Suchánek for pointing it out in the comments. You can't ping IPs so I always get a failed mention for those but otherwise it's a good safety in case I mistype. Chris Troutman (talk) 22:41, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Chris. Bishonen | talk 22:46, 3 February 2017 (UTC).

Yeah, no joke. I had no idea this was a thing. And as a rule, I usually watchlist any conversation I have a good expectation will go on for some time (hence why I'm here). This may be a case of "mistakes were made on all sides," and there's nothing wrong or nefarious about that. TimothyJosephWood 23:28, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - newsletter No.2

A HUGE backlog

We now have 822 New Page Reviewers!
Most of us requested the user right at PERM, expressing a wish to be able to do something about the huge backlog, but the chart on the right does not demonstrate any changes to the pre-user-right levels of October.

The backlog is still steadily growing at a rate of 150 a day or 4,650 a month. Only 20 reviews a day by each reviewer over the next few days would bring the backlog down to a managable level and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work!
It didn't work in time to relax for the Xmas/New Year holidays. Let's see if we can achieve our goal before Easter, otherwise by Thanksgiving it will be closer to 70,000.

Second set of eyes

Remember that we are the only guardians of quality of new articles, we alone have to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged by non-Reviewer patrollers and that new authors are not being bitten.

Abuse

This is even more important and extra vigilance is required considering Orangemoody, and

1. this very recent case of paid advertising by a Reviewer resulting in a community ban.
2. this case in January of paid advertising by a Reviewer, also resulting in a community ban.
3. This Reviewer is indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry.

Coordinator election

Kudpung is stepping down after 6 years as unofficial coordinator of New Page Patrolling/Reviewing. There is enough work for two people and two coords are now required. Details are at NPR Coordinators; nominate someone or nominate yourself. Date for the actual suffrage will be published later.

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The future of NPP and AfC/Work group

As you are a member of the above task force we're just letting you know about an up coming election for two coordinators for the New Page Review System. Full details at New Page Review Coordinators

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Improving title of article | transcription of Arabic-Persian script

Pls can you help me on the following re art. Keykhosrow Keshâvarz:

- I would like to change the title of the article to Keykhosrou (instaead of Keykhosrow) Keshâvarz, for reasons of consistency of transcription. What do I have to do?

- How serious do you take consistent transcription of Persian terms (or Arabic for that matter)? I can see from many relevant articles that most authors don't bother much, but I would very much like to have transcriptions as consistent and near to the original as possible. It makes the whole thing much easier for users when it comes to identify words in a Persian language dictionary or in the Farsi Misplaced Pages.

Thanks and have a good start for the week to come 80.123.45.51 (talk) 16:32, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

User:80.123.45.51 - I am not entirely sure that I understand the question. If you want to change the name of a page, you can request that someone move it. If you have a question about transliteration, I suggest that you ask at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:46, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Nevosophy Scandal

Hello sir! may I ask the specifics as to why the 'nevosophy scandal' page should be deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by LynWoodburgh (talk • contribs) 05:58, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

User:LynWoodburgh - It isn't an encyclopedic topic that is notable that reliable sources have already written about. It appears to be a rehash of an issue that you have with administrators that may be appropriate on a project page but does not belong in article space. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:04, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

But if one were to consider 'wikipedia' a reflection of all 'encyclopedic topics' then it is also true that, any subject can be both derived from and deduced to, philosophy. Is this not representation enough of the 'spherical' nature of knowledge? (talk) Robert McClenon

The last paragraph above was not added by me but by User:LynWoodburgh, and the use of my signature appears to be a Wiki-forgery. I thank any other editors who have either deleted LynWoodburgh's rants or tried to reason with LynWoodburgh. User:LynWoodburgh - Any further attempts to attribute your eccentric opinions about what should be in Misplaced Pages to me will be reported at WP:ANI. Any further non-encyclopedic pages will be tagged for deletion. It appears that you are not here to contribute to the encyclopedia, but to engage in mischief, but I will wait about that. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:42, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

No need to go to ANI - just ping me if there's more of the same. My finger is already halfway on the block button. --NeilN 15:45, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

User:NeilN - If you have this talk page watchlisted and are checking his contributions, thanks. Ranting is common enough (and has been a problem on the Internet and Usernet since before Misplaced Pages), but forgery is something else. (Well, forgery did happen in the alt sector of the Usenet, because the alt sector was a lawless world like the Old West, but forgery violated the code of the West even then.) Robert McClenon (talk) 15:51, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes, watchlisted and checking contribs (deleted their last page). Not sure the signature thing was intentional though. I've seen my sig copy-pasted by newbies in unexpected ways and unexpected places enough times that cause me to have a healthy dollop of AGF for these types of situations. --NeilN 16:03, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Okay. We know that there is stupidity. We know that there is obstinacy. Perhaps the signature thing was stupidity, but the real problem is the obstinacy. Thanks. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:10, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

I see no evidence of the most recent deletion, which means that you deleted it without a non-admin tagging it. Cool. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:12, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Hao Qi Chang Liu from Originzhao

Hi, Robert,

This is originzhao who just created the page Hao Qi Chang Liu. I created the page as a placeholder while I am translating what I have about the topic into English and about to post the results in 2 hours. I see the page is somehow deleted. Can I still have it back?

Thanks, originzhao — Preceding unsigned comment added by Originzhao (talk • contribs) 16:43, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Need correction

Hello, thanks for the help. I'm new here and will like you to please help me in correcting errors made on the article cece maintain. Eddypep (talk) 17:00, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

User:Eddypep - What sort of help do you need? There are two problems with the article. First, the references are inconsistently formatted. (That is better than no references.) I do not claim to be an expert in the formatting of references, and you might do better to ask for help at the Teahouse. Second, the English isn't very good. I can help with that. What sort of help were you asking for? Robert McClenon (talk) 17:14, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

• very well then, help out with the grammar section and I will redo the references and add them up.Eddypep (talk) 17:23, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Premi creations

Just an FYI they've already been given final warnings for this. :( Chrissymad ❯❯❯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:50, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

User:Chrissymad - I've gone to WP:ANI. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:54, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Rookshot

I saw your PROD on Rookshot and I speedied it instead. I felt like it qualified under A7. That user has been doing a ton of weird borderline-sketchy things with pop punk bands this week, so I'm keeping an eye on their contribs. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 01:45, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Help request

Hi! I have been asked to write up an editorial for The Signpost. It is at User:Guy Macon/Draft of Signpost Editorial. If you have time, could you give it a quick look and correct any glaring errors you spot? Thanks! --Guy Macon (talk) 04:04, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of LIfe

A tag has been placed on LIfe requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section R3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from an implausible typo or misnomer.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. CatcherStorm 17:19, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

User:CatcherStorm - Huh. Anyway, I only created the redirect in cleaning up the crud, and you beat me to cleaning up the redirect. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:25, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

First Publishing

Speedy deletion nomination of First Publishing Ltd

Thank you Robert for the welcome and sorry for messing up, just for my understanding, was the post deleted because I didn't have time to add enough information into it or was it deleted because the subject wasn't of interest ? Erajapu (talk) 20:42, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Answered on requestor's talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:42, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

The Magic Carpet Tour

Read my response and allow me to finish " The Magic Carpet Ride Tour " I was just starting to cite notability — Preceding unsigned comment added by Talia Jonet (talk • contribs) 18:56, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

User:Talia Jonet - First, you created two copies of the article. The one that is a duplicate, The Magic Carpet Ride Tour is the one that I tagged for speedy deletion. Second, the first one is The Magic Carpet Tour. I tagged it for proposed deletion, which gives a week to improve the article. It is a good idea not to create articles in article space until you have added the references and otherwise made the case for notability, because any page in article space is subject to various methods of deletion if it does not satisfy Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines. You can create articles in draft space or user space, and move them to article space when they satisfy policies and guidelines including notability. If you want advice about how to create articles in draft or user space, you may ask at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:26, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, its been taken care of !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Talia Jonet (talk • contribs) 19:28, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Stop reporting

Can you tell me what is the reason for nominating speedy deletion for my article 'DMI Foundations Trust'. If you dont know how about my article, dont report. You are discouraging me. You may read the contents of my article. If you are so intelligent, just tell me the valid reason why you have suggested my article for speedy deletion. I have removed speedy deletion tag unknowingly. You are doing all these things intentionally. Behave yourself. Dont interfere in my articles. What do you know about DMI Foundations Trust? You may not know about all these stuffs. But you are ready to complain others as if you are good in writing articles. I am a new writer. Dont flatter as if you know everything. These are the words from my heart. So, behave yourself. Dont behave like a child. Even they are good than your sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edson Frainlar (talk • contribs) 19:23, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

User:Edson Frainlar - If you want advice for new writers of articles for Misplaced Pages, ask at the Teahouse. If you want advice on how to create an article about the DMI Foundations Trust, ask at the Teahouse, and they will advise you to create it in draft space and have it reviewed, and will also advise you not to lecture me. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:35, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

BTW

I meant my comment in the sense of "RfC and NPP are exercises in disappointing people." TimothyJosephWood 22:09, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

User:Timothyjosephwood - I think that we agree. NPP disappoints would-be writers in Misplaced Pages because our first obligation is to the readers. That means removing crud from article space, preferably before the crud gets indexed in article space. Our obligation is to the readers, to ensure quality. In the case in point, I think that the disappointed would-be writer has a problem with English, but that is another issue. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:17, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Well, less worrisome about indexing with NPP, although I'll be the first to admit I still mostly do NPP through recent changes, so I'm hardly a shining example of reducing the backlog.

In a purely philosophical sense though, I would say that our first obligation is to the mission, and the readers benefit from that. The mission would be worthwhile even if we were only making a time capsule of human knowledge. I'd like to imagine that if we realized some global catastrophic event was imminent, Misplaced Pages and Google Books would be among the first things we would shoot into space, Carl Sagan Voyager style.

I don't know that the average reader would notice if our quality suddenly dropped 10%, however you measure that. But you would eventually lose the idea that WP is useful, and with that we would lose WP, because that's the reason volunteers are here to build it. TimothyJosephWood 23:04, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	I want to make my own: the What's a Barnstar barnstar. LoudHouse1 (talk) 23:32, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Change your attitude

Even now you haven't changed your attitude. You said that iam not proficient in English. I accept because I used to accept my faults. You said to ask doubts in teahouse. They will clarify my doubts. For discussion alone I need to approach teahouse in that sense then for what purpose you proposed my article to get deleted. Do your business. Even now you are not answering my question properly. I am wondering how you have created all that non sense articles. And you are self praising about you by showing those filthy articles. Edson Frainlar (talk) 11:50, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

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