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Quick question because I'm unsure what our exact policy is on close paraphrasing/breaking up copying over a few sentences. I came across some very close paraphrasing in ] form the Washington Post and National Geographic. I've since removed it, but not quite sure if the issues are severe enough to need rev del, so I'm not quite comfortable placing the template without a second opinion. ] (]) 15:25, 15 April 2017 (UTC) Quick question because I'm unsure what our exact policy is on close paraphrasing/breaking up copying over a few sentences. I came across some very close paraphrasing in ] form the Washington Post and National Geographic. I've since removed it, but not quite sure if the issues are severe enough to need rev del, so I'm not quite comfortable placing the template without a second opinion. ] (]) 15:25, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
:Hi Tony. There's two-three sentences from each of these sources. In both instances the material was added by Wiki-Ed students. I think there's enough to warrant revision deletion. I have warned the two users re: our copyvio policy. Thanks for the report. — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(]) 19:08, 15 April 2017 (UTC) :Hi Tony. There's two-three sentences from each of these sources. In both instances the material was added by Wiki-Ed students. I think there's enough to warrant revision deletion. I have warned the two users re: our copyvio policy. Thanks for the report. — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(]) 19:08, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
::Hi! Can you make the revision history available for all the other revisions. I understand the copyright concern, but there is no edit history available at all now. Can you limit your deletion of revisions to the 2 issues in question? Thanks! --] (]) 22:03, 16 April 2017 (UTC)


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Einsatzgruppen image

I'm confused why you removed it as having "no-rationale" for this article - I've reviewed the USHMM policy for their images, there is a charge for high resolution copies but otherwise the images ARE free, for obvious reasons. Seraphim System (talk) 11:11, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Additionally: I am sympathetic that you are concerned about stability for FA articles and I have worked with you on this in the past rather then edit war, I know these articles are important to you but I think you have to let others edit the article as well. Seraphim System (talk) 11:15, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

I saw your edit summary where you stated you would edit war to keep this image in the article. That's not a good idea, as it is against our Edit warring policy. The reason I removed it is because we don't use non-free images where freely licensed images are available. There's already three freely licensed images of Einsatzgruppen shootings in the article, so to add a non-free one violates our non-free content policy rule #1 which states that non-free content must not be used where a freely licensed alternative is available. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:40, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
Can you link to that? Seraphim System (talk) 21:24, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
I see why you are confused, you misread my edit summary. It says "I have written to USHMM about copyright before and I will do it again if I must" indicating that I feel it is a hassle for both myself and the research team at the museum. I was talking about following up on copyright permissions, not reverting edits - I self-reverted, I asked for help at media questions, and they explained rationale to me - which was the second revert. I have never worked with fair use before. I don't think you did this on purpose, but you should be careful accusing other editors of edit warring. I will try not to take it personally. Seraphim System (talk) 21:30, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
Sorry about that, I see now that I made a mistake about the edit summary. Here is a link to the non-free content policy: WP:NFCCP. I see you already received similar information and advice from a different administrator when you visited Misplaced Pages:Media copyright questions#Fair Use: since we have several freely licensed images available (and already present in the article), we can't justify including a non-free one that illustrates essentially the same point. A fourth image does not add anything that is not already illustrated by the three freely licensed images. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 21:38, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Australian nationality law

Thanks Diannaa for the note re Australian nationality law#Applying for a Passport ... I have updated the section. Hope it is ok now.Supcmd (talk) 11:53, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi Supcmd. My point was that when copying from compatibly licensed Australian government websites, you need to give attribution so that our readers are made aware that you copied the prose rather than wrote it yourself. here is an example: Diff of Australian nationality law. If you could do this yourself in the future if you copy their prose verbatim that would be perfect. You can do it manually like I did, or you can use a template {{CC-notice}}. I have checked your additions and they are fine. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:53, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Great! Thanks ... Supcmd (talk) 19:34, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Global Combat Ship

Hello Diannaa,

a quick query regarding your recent removal of some updates I did to the Global Combat Ship. The content you removed came from a BAE Systems' (the builder of Type 26/GCS) press release, so I'm not sure how there is a copyright issue. Are press releases not meant to be used by the press and/or in the media in general? I always thought the idea of a providing a press release was to give lazy editors a story without having to do any real work. All over the world press releases are used almost verbatim, and every day. However, you do seem to spend a fair bit of your wiki time on this sort of subject, so I'm very keen to read your thoughts. There may be a Wiki rule somewhere that covers this, and if there is, I'll of course obey it. If press releases are in fact covered by copyright law, I assume I need to re-hash the release to use the information, or maybe get the permission of BAE Systems to use it near-verbatim if I wished to? Look forward to hearing from you, and I'll not do anything until I do--Wolpat (talk) 13:47, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi Wolpat. The page where I found the content was here, and it is marked at the bottom as "Copyright © 2017 BAE Systems. All rights reserved" so yes, it is definitely copyright and we can't host the material here unless the copyright holder wishes to release the content under a compatible license. If you intend to contact the the copyright holder to get permission, please see the instructions at WP:Donating copyrighted materials. There's a sample permission email at WP:Consent.For future reference, please note that under current copyright law, literary works (including press releases) are subject to copyright whether they are tagged as such or not. No registration is required, and no copyright notice is required. So please always assume that all material you find online is copyright. Exceptions include works of the US Government and material specifically released under license. Even then, proper attribution is required. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:00, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for that swift and detailed response. Weirdly I'd have taken that "Copyright © 2017 BAE Systems. All rights reserved" to mean the design of the page..., but that's really neither here nor there when you explanation is taken into account. I may contact BAE, but given the size of the organization, I fear that may be a huge task in itself... I think what I will end up doing is re-writeing the information I originally used so that it hopefully doesn't break any rules. Thanks again.--Wolpat (talk) 17:26, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
Just had another go at that text... Hopefully it will pass muster in this presentation. I did not "" the text I copied directly as this is always an item or items, and I don't think something like an item or list of items referenced can ever be a direct quote. Am I wrong? Either way, do please let me know what you think. Please don't delete again if it still falls foul, just give me a coupe of clues. Will be much easier! Oh, and weirdly I did manage to talk to somebody. Was shocked how easy it was... They laughed that anybody should care about a press release being quoted as such, but acknowledged the technical copyright issue. And while they have no issue with direct copy for what I did, agreed getting something to support that from an organization of the size we are talking of, would be a task in itself... It was agreed it would be quicker/easier for me to manipulate the words, while striving to retain 100% accuracy. Look forward to your comments.--Type 304 (18-8) (talk) 11:39, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
I have done some paraphrasing on the section about the six contracts, as you presented exactly the same material using the same words as the source web page. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:09, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Hi Diannaa, I'm kind of not really sure about all of this. If Fred delivers a grey wheelbarrow, he delivers a grey wheelbarrow. That's a fact, and surly as a fact it can be used. Surly I don't have to say Fred delivered a wheelbarrow of a colour somewhere between black and white on the spectrum? A grey wheelbarrow is a grey wheelbarrow, a watertight door is a watertight door, it is not just a door. I mention the door as it is important to add the gastight and watertight doors as they are specific/special, they're not just doors. Paraphrasing such things just introduces ambiguity and even errors. To be accurate, to be encyclopedia in the 'get it right' sense, the items contracted here need to be presented as contracted, and not fluffed around. Surly reported the contracted items cannot be a copyright issue? They're not somebody else's words, they are facts. Sadly, and despite your obvious best efforts, paraphrasing has allowed errors to creep in. You now have contractors attributed wrong awards, and the supplier of the gas and watertight doors well be well miffed that you have them supplying what appear to be just doors. I have deleted the block of text for now as it was just so wrong, and will make another attempt at this tomorrow (or maybe later today). I do feel the actual items need to be presented 'as were ordered' for accuracy and not fluffed around as outlined earlier. I will attempt to get it right next time around. Hope this makes sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Type 304 (18-8) (talk • contribs) 16:45, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
I understand where you're coming from, but you can't copy material directly from the source document; it's copyright. It's not a straightforward list in my opinion, and it can and should be paraphrased. Since you're not satisfied with my version, please go ahead and create your own, but like I said before you must not copy directly form the copyright source document. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 16:49, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Would swapping 'a red fork, a green spade, and a blue rake' to 'a blue rake, a red fork and a green spade' work, and if not what about 'a selection of garden tools including a red fork, a green spade, and a blue rake'?--Type 304 (18-8) (talk) 17:03, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Knight Habor or Harbour on banks island edit

Hi,

I'm wondering if you edited my writing on Banks Island about Knight Harbor or Knight Harbour. I seen it was removed but I received no warning or notice of it also I can't click on it on my contributions page. Rrknightjr (talk) 01:18, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi Rrknightjr. I removed some content as it appears to have been copied from the copyright web page http://www.historymuseum.ca/cmc/exhibitions/hist/cae/peo613e.shtml. Copying text directly from a source is a copyright violation. Unfortunately, for copyright reasons, the content had to be removed. Sorry for the lack of notice on your talk page, I must have got distracted because normally I let people know what I did and why. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 10:50, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello, did you recieve my message about deleting my edit in banks island with all my references which were alot.? Rrknightjr (talk) 22:19, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello Rrknightjr I did receive your message, and my reply is immediately above — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 22:29, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Re: Copyright Nam Cam

Hi, thanks for correcting me on copyrighted text, I did not know that such was a rule, only thought it applied to photos. However, I cannot see the specific edit that I made due to it being crossed out for copyright violation. I want to see the edit that I made that included the copyrighted text since it includes some good detailed information from the source that I can perhaps reword properly to avoid the copyright issue. However, without access to seeing what exactly I did add in that edit, I do not know what info was removed. Much would be appreciated if you could allow me some way to see the specific edit. Best regards, TTTAssasinator (talk) 01:49, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

I removed material about the trial copied from http://factsanddetails.com/southeast-asia/Vietnam/sub5_9f/entry-3449.html. I can send it to you via email but you will have to activate your Misplaced Pages email first. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 10:54, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Ok, I would like to receive the edit by email, which I just activated today so that I can see exactly what I added. I look forward to a response TTTAssasinator (talk) 14:50, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Sorry but something must have gone wrong, as I am not seeing email access as of yet. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:47, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Really? Perhaps it takes a while to show up on your side then. Try it again, you should be able to see it as I can see that I've already activated my email for this account in the Preferences tab. If you still can't see it then I guess I'll just post my email directly here for you to contact me. Looking forward to a response TTTAssasinator (talk) 21:09, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

It's still not there. I've tried in Chrome and Safari on my Mac and Chrome on my Chromebook. Please double check at your end as it's not a good idea to publicly post your email address on this wiki. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 21:18, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Triple checked it, it says that my email was confirmed at 10 April 2017 at 14:47, so don't know why you are unable to see it. Perhaps you could post the edit on my talk page if that is no problem? I could always remove the section if it is a problem, so would that be an idea that you find adequate? Looking forward to a response TTTAssasinator (talk) 23:04, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

How about you check and see if you can send me an email? If it's properly set up you should see a link to email me in the links on the left hand side of the page. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:42, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Alright, I've emailed you on this site using the "Email this user" function on the left side tool section, so check if you've received my email. Again I look forward for a response. TTTAssasinator (talk) 01:01, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Email is on its way. Thanks for your patience. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 02:32, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Journal of Entrepreneurship, Business and Economics

Hi there,

While reviewing your G12 tag for the above, I noticed it was licensed under CC-BY 4.0, which contrary to CC-BY-SA 4 is a valid license, at least according to the FAQ :). I have to say that our situation with regards to CC 4 is clear as mud to me right now. Cheers, MLauba 08:41, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Good catch. You are correct: CC-BY 4.0 is a compatible license. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 10:56, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of Gurudwara Nangali Sahib

I shall be granted permission by the content owner shortly for which i have already applied.I request you to remove this from speedy deletion nomination. User:Karankhajuria22 22:52 10 April, 2017 (UTC)

The page has already been deleted. When the permission email is received and verified, the page can be restored. Please be patient, as the people who look after this are experiencing backlogs. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:46, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

I have sent the snapshots of permission proof to permissions-en@wikimedia.org.Is there anything else i have to do? User:Karankhajuria22 (talk) 13:40, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Lowell Haines

Hi, thanks again for your endless assistance. The page has been created by someone who has a very heavy WP:COI issue that I should have realised much earlier. But now that I have put forward a AfD on this article, is it too late to tag as a CSD? I'm thinking of the best possible way of coming out of this without WP:BITE'ing or looking overzealous. I look forward to your reply. Best, Nicnote • ask me a question • contributions 23:20, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

I'm not seeing any CSD category that fits the case. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:45, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, I just re-read the criteria for the CSD categories I had in mind... Thanks for your time, greatly appreciated. Nicnote • ask me a question • contributions 23:58, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Medal recipient categories - Commons

We (and I use the term because I didn't lead the effort) recently finished successful CfDs for recipients of the Purple Heart and recipients of the Bronze Star. I noticed that Commons still has those categories with slightly different names, which I think should also be deleted. User:K.e.coffman, who led at least one of the CfDs, suggested I ask you about addressing that process because you have more experience on Commons. Should we address this at Commons and what's the procedure?--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 00:41, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Sorry but I don't have much knowledge about how things work at the Commons, or about categories in general. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:20, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Kimberly-Clark - Can you help?

CityOfSilver reverted an edit by 76.14.173.8 at Kimberly-Clark because of suspected copyright violation. 76.14.173.8 restored the questionable material. I found the source of the text, which was used word for word, reverted, and placed a warning on 76.14.173.8's talk page. 76.14.173.8 restored the material again, claiming that they had "Modified and added non copyrighted material". It appears to be the exact same plagiarized text to me. Can you help out here? 32.218.36.86 (talk) 01:02, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay in replying. I see another admin has blocked the IP for a bit for the copyright violations. I've gone back and revision-deleted the copyvio material. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:26, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Shahzadpur, Haryana, India

Hi Diannaa. Is the text at Shahzadpur, Haryana, India#Demographics too close to the source? Dr Thaane Wala has persistently added similar text and claims that there is not a close paraphrasing issue. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:29, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

www.census2011.co.in is a copyright website and we can't copypaste their prose. That being said, Earwig's tool shows the current version to be adequately paraphrased. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:16, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

St. John's International School, Kuala Lumpur

Hi Dianna, I hope you are doing good. I am Inderjeet Singh, Vice- Principal of St. John's International School, Kuala Lumpur. We have recently updated our Misplaced Pages page from our official IP address 175.143.47.217. However, all of our content has been reverted. I do understand on the copyright issue and permission needed. It will be great if you can revert the chances to reflect our school (this was done on 6th April 2017). Please advise if we need to carry out any other processes, frankly quite naive with Misplaced Pages page/s management.I will also get my staff to rewrite the about SJIS to minimise resemblance to our webpage content www.sjis.edu.my. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.143.47.217 (talk) 05:05, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your interest in working on this article. There are a couple of problems with your submission. You cannot post copyright material on Misplaced Pages even if you are the copyright holder, unless special licensing permissions are in place. That is because Misplaced Pages aims to be freely distributable and copyable by anyone, and all content must have the appropriate documentation in place before that can happen. Please see Misplaced Pages:donating copyrighted materials which explains how it works. There's a sample permission email at WP:Consent. Another option is to write material that does not closely copy the material available on the school's website.The second problem is conflict of interest. Writing an article about your own organisation is strongly discouraged, as it is difficult to maintain the required neutral point of view. According to our terms of use, paid editors and people editing on behalf of their employer are required to disclose their conflict of interest by posting a notice on their user page or talk page. There's additional information on this topic on your user talk page. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:22, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Deleting a section because it's empty

IP address users 80.1.181.122 and 80.2.151.245 (could be the same person) keeps deleting an empty section on the Scarlett (G.I. Joe) page and on other pages simple because it's an empty section that hasn't been filled in yet. But there are dozens of empty sections all across wikipedia, that doesn't mean they should be removed. If this person feels so strongly about that then they should take it to the Talk page.108.82.12.10 (talk) 15:03, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Well in this example and this example, the sections have been sitting empty for going on six years, so their removal seems justified to me. Perhaps you should pursue this on the article talk pages. Or if you've got some sourced content to add, that would be welcome too — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:23, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Adding Sources

Thank you for the comment. I will keep it in mind.--Markx121993 (talk) 17:10, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Emerald Theatre

Thank you for your comments. I am struggling with the process of using wikipedia and navigating all the rules..just to find out how to respond to your comment was a challenge. The Macomb Music Theatre page should be deleted and the Emerald Theatre page should be updated, as edited, to show that the venue is open, not closed. This is a live performance venue, known as the Emerald Theatre from 2000 - 2012, then the Macomb Music Theatre from 2012-2014. It was closed in 2014 until it was purchased in 2016 and the name is back to the Emerald Theatre by the new owners. BOTH pages exist on wikipedia, but as it stands, it looks like the Emerald Theatre is closed. I'm running into so many brick walls with guidelines, that I don't know how to proceed. Another editing user, 331dot, said he/she has "already posted a merge tag on the article; if some time passes and no one disagrees, an administrator will be able to merge the two articles together. In the future, if you feel any edits are needed to the article about your theatre, you will need to suggest them on the article talk page first per the conflict of interest policy. 331dot (talk)" However if the Emerald page is merged with the Macomb Music one, that's the OPPOSITE of what should happen, as there is no Macomb Music Theatre now. And because i work for the people who bought the venue last year, I have a "conflict of interest" which is another obstacle.Dhp31 (talk) 22:39, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

This article states that the venue re-opened as the Emerald Theatre late last year. I will help --— Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:52, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

THANK YOU!Dhp31 (talk) 17:05, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Precious five years!

Precious
Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:09, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Re: Copyright problem on Qualifications framework

Hi Diannaa, I believe that the copyright issue you had with me is with the Qualifications framework article, not David Lazer. Regarding that page, the information that you removed was not taken from the websites you listed, but rather from a free content work licensed under CC-BY-SA IGO 3.0: Level-setting and recognition of learning outcomes: The use of level descriptors in the twenty-first century. The content that you removed was taken from p. 80 of that publication. This is part of a project that uses UNESCO's open access in line with Misplaced Pages's open license policy. If you have any questions about the project, please contact John Cummings. Thank you. (A.mart82 (talk) 07:38, 12 April 2017 (UTC))

Hi both, Diannaa I've undone your revisions, as A.mart82 says the text comes from an open license source here. The pages you found may be earlier iterations of text but the text is definitely available under an open license (see p3 of the pdf). There is a sources section on the article that gives more information.
Can you tell me which copyvio tool you are using? I'm working with some of the creators to try and help users using the tools to more easily see when there is an open license text attribution on the page.
Thanks
--John Cummings (talk) 08:43, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) I also came across one of A.mart82's edits a few weeks ago and initially reverted it . The text added was a section from a pdf and I had checked it using a manual process. Perhaps the brief description that was used in the edit summary and available on the user's page hadn't quite telegraphed to me that this editor was involved in a process of adding free content. I performed a reversion to reinstate the content after I realised what was actually going on. Drchriswilliams (talk) 12:30, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
Some of the material I removed is on page 34 of the Unesco document but it is a quotation from Lokhoff et al., which is not released under a compatible license. The material on page 84 of the Unesco report is a quotation from this document, which has a copyright notice of "Copyright © European Centre for the Development of Vocational Training (Cedefop), 2010". Being quoted in a CC-by document does not mean the licensing of the ultimate source documents has changed. So I disagree that this material is okay to copy to our website. To answer your question on copyright detection tools, there's a bot using iThenticate to create reports which are located here and I check them primarily with Earwig's tool and of course manually. I still use the old Duplication Detector occasionally, because it can view some formats that Earwig's tool cannot see. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:15, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

User not attributing per WP:CWW

Hi Diannaa, I'd noticed you'd left some messages on Torygreen84's talk page about attribution when copying within Misplaced Pages. Earlier this morning, there was another instance where material was inserted into UK Independence Party leadership election, September 2016 here from Bill Etheridge without attribution. I've again provided retroactive attribution, but they have already been warned about this five times and they don't seem to be adopting the practice. What would be a suitable next step? Thanks, /wiae /tlk 12:01, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

I just found another instance: coping from Fred Nile into Burka Ban in Australia without attribution. /wiae /tlk 12:11, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
The next step would be to remove their edits as copyvio, and if they still persist I would block them. Since you have already added the required attribution for the above examples I will give them a final warning instead. Thanks for reporting. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:21, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Removing speedy deletion tag

I am kind of new to creating an article and i used an unauthorized image on my article and what i thought i was deleting was what may have been part of a speedy deletion tag. I did not recognize i was doing this, i was just trying to fix my mistake. DonnyReisdorf (talk) 12:39, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Combined Habitat Assessment Protocols

Hi Diannaa! You ahve recently removed the content about Combined Habitat Assessment Protocols from my sandbox and I totally get it because it had been sitting there for quite a while. Would it be possibel to restore it though? I was working on a section for too long which made it seem like nothing was going on, but I actually have something to contribute. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by CreateWikipg (talk • contribs) 14:45, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

The draft was deleted by another admin as it hadn't been edited in quite a while (it looks like I only deleted a redirect to the draft). I have restored it and it is located at Draft:Combined Habitat Assessment Protocols. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:11, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with File:James Jarvaise's Man in the Room Series, 1959.jpg

Hi Diannaa, This is an issue back from 20:46, 7 November 2016 (UTC). I’d like to let you know that the website www.jarvaise.com is now back up and running. Because all related content has been published on this site, what is the best way to reinstate the following images?

Thank you so mujch for your time and help with this!

Jean — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jean Jarvaise (talk • contribs) 15:51, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi Jean. The first image, File:James Jarvaise.jpg, was deleted because you had tagged it as fair use, and we don't allow non-free images of living people. The other two were deleted because they were derivative works, which means that although you provided a license for the photograph, there was no evidence that the copyright holder had released the original artwork under a compatible license. (i.e. we need two licenses for derivative works: one for the photo and one for the underlying artwork.) Your best course of action would be to get an OTRS ticket in place on these files. Please see the instructions at WP:Donating copyrighted materials for how to do this. There's a sample permission email at WP:Consent. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 16:08, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Change "Jadun" to Jadoon

Diannaa,

Wanted to change the wiki on "Jadun" to "Jadoon" because "Jadoon" is the more common spelling. Can I do that? Mulberry sky (talk) 03:16, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

You won't be able to move it there yourself; you'll have to file a request at Misplaced Pages:Requested moves. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:42, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

6.9

Diannaa - Thanks for checking in on the Mercedes-Benz 450SEL 6.9 copyright issue. I don't actually see the issue - I do cross check text against refs, but I don't copy them into Misplaced Pages unless in quotes. The article looks fine, so no worries. PLawrence99cx (talk) 03:51, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Footnotes

Hi Diannaa. Is there a rule on Misplaced Pages that stub-class articles shouldn't be tagged with "Template:No footnotes"? Another user and I were about to engage in an edit war because we had different opinions as to whether this tag should be placed on these articles (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6) or not. Can you take a look at them and make it clear that which one of us is right? Keivan.f 10:50, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Sorry but I can't find any information on this topic in our guidelines. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:47, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Scott Lingamfelter

I thought https://virginiavirtucon.wordpress.com/2013/05/12/interview-with-ltg-candidate-hopeful-scott-linghamfelter/ was a pretty useful source of Lingamfelter's policy stances. At what point does use exceed fair use, I wonder, in a case like this, where we have a legitimate nonprofit educational purpose? The quotations from that source also haven't just been cut down to something briefer; they've been totally removed, which goes beyond what copyright law requires. Anyway, I'd like an opportunity to revise some content and maybe do some paraphrasing and more limited quotations. St. claires fire (talk) 21:12, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Our non-free content policy is actually stricter than what copyright law requires. What I removed was 165 words of copyright violation and 2,711 words of quotations in a 5,307-word article. So the quotations were more than 51% of the article (since some quotations remain). There's a couple of problems with this volume of quotations. First, our non-free content policy calls for non-free content to be used sparingly. Over half the article being quotations cannot be considered sparingly by anybody's measure. The second problem is all the removed material was quotations from the subject of the article, which is a primary source. Here on Misplaced Pages we build our articles primarily on secondary sources, i.e. what others have to say about the subject of the article rather than what the subject has to say about himself. That sort of material might be suited to the politician's own website, but it's not what we're looking for on Misplaced Pages. I have received your email and will be sending a reply in a minute here. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 21:33, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. St. claires fire (talk) 22:02, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Copyright violation for Garfield High School (Seattle)

Hi Diannaa,

An article titled Garfield High School (Seattle) has a copyright violation in the history section since it was tagged on May 2014. The violation ends just before: 

By 2011, due to the success of this program, an alternative program, IBx, was opened for APP students at Ingraham International School in North Seattle to help relieve pressure on an overcrowded Garfield. The program has been renamed from APP to HCC, the Highly Capable Cohort as of 2015.

CubeSats4U 11:56, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

I found the original document, which was archived here on March 24, 2012. This pre-dates the insertion of the content, which happened on 05:47, January 22, 2013. According to this page the material is released under a CC-by-NC-ND 3.0 license, but that's not a compatible license, since it does not allow commercial use and our license does. I have cleaned the article. Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:25, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Indian Centre for Space Physics

Hi D, sorry to trouble you, but can you have a look at what's left of this article? I got most of what I can find, going back months, but what remains seems in the same tone as what was removed, so I'd like a second set of eyes to make sure I didn't miss anything. Similarly, the photos were all sourced as "sent to me personally" which suggests the uploaded is not the photographer. Thanks! -C Crow 17:53, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

I did further checks and found nothing else. Do you want me to do some revision deletion? — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:29, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
  • It is probably warranted here, given the amount involved. It would be a lot of revs though, 756896499 through 775215148. Crow 19:05, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
Done — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:12, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Ta

Hi, Diannaa. Just wanted to say thank you for your help making sense of the rules Misplaced Pages operates under. After your last response, I've realised even if I managed the copyright issues, it would still end up reading like original research. Which it pretty much is. I hope the thaw is making progress in Alberta. I grew up at Gull Lake, near Red Deer, and remember spring was like an annual rebirth compared to the mild changes that happen here in Australia.CactusPolecat (talk) 01:20, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

We had good progress and the street sweepers came and cleaned the sand off the street but then yesterday it started snowing again and it's going to be snowing till Thursday. Ah well at least it's good for the albedo — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 11:53, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Cheers.CactusPolecat (talk) 08:00, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi

Hi I done some attribution and some person deleted saying it it is not desirable to duplicate material. say what. Torygreen84 (talk) 10:56, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

The person has a point. We don't build the wiki by copying, we build it by writing. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 11:53, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Close paraphasing question

Quick question because I'm unsure what our exact policy is on close paraphrasing/breaking up copying over a few sentences. I came across some very close paraphrasing in Environmental policy of the Donald Trump administration form the Washington Post and National Geographic. I've since removed it, but not quite sure if the issues are severe enough to need rev del, so I'm not quite comfortable placing the template without a second opinion. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:25, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi Tony. There's two-three sentences from each of these sources. In both instances the material was added by Wiki-Ed students. I think there's enough to warrant revision deletion. I have warned the two users re: our copyvio policy. Thanks for the report. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:08, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Hi! Can you make the revision history available for all the other revisions. I understand the copyright concern, but there is no edit history available at all now. Can you limit your deletion of revisions to the 2 issues in question? Thanks! --EJustice (talk) 22:03, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dianna

Hello Dianna, I am User:Vvven, I can not connect to my user account, I even wanted to enter placing my email, but this do not recognize the email. I hope you help me. I was given a warning in the recent past, you told me that the next block but was not a next time because I did not contribute until today in anything else. i ask try to help me please. Thank you--200.35.214.201 (talk) 15:47, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Sorry but if you can't access the account through a normal log-in and the email isn't working, there's nothing that can be done :( — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:50, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Copyvio

Can you take a look at this article Chittagong_Cantonment_Public_College? - Mar11 (talk) 16:44, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Most of the copyvio had been removed by the time I arrived, but I found a bit more (copied from some other school's website). Revision deletion done. I did some clean-up and copy edits too while I was there. Thanks for the report. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:15, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
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