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The events that occurred in Libya is nothing but Genocide. Can you publically go out and call the Holocaust "Pacification of Germany"? "Pacification of Jews"?. You cannot because it is morally wrong. The same thing applies to the Libyan people. Just because they are not white, European or Christian it does not make them any lesser human beings than you are. | The events that occurred in Libya is nothing but Genocide. Can you publically go out and call the Holocaust "Pacification of Germany"? "Pacification of Jews"?. You cannot because it is morally wrong. The same thing applies to the Libyan people. Just because they are not white, European or Christian it does not make them any lesser human beings than you are. | ||
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1179/007516306X142924: Italian war crimes labeled as "Genocide" | <ref>http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1179/007516306X142924</ref>: Italian war crimes labeled as "Genocide" | ||
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1354571042000254737: Further details about Italian war crimes and genocide | <ref>http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1354571042000254737:</ref> Further details about Italian war crimes and genocide | ||
Reference Arabic wiki to see how the the prominent Italian figures in North Africa are detailed as criminals who killed and slaughtered the native populace of Libya. | Reference Arabic wiki to see how the the prominent Italian figures in North Africa are detailed as criminals who killed and slaughtered the native populace of Libya. | ||
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POV against Italy
I find the article partially POV against Italy. There it is no reference at all to the massacre of Italian military & civilians done by rebels from 1911 to 1915, that created the revenge (against moslem fanatics mainly in Cyrenaica) from Italian authorities after WWI. To have an idea read this:Sciara sciat.
Ho visto in una sola moschea diciassette italiani crocefissi con i corpi ridotti allo stato di cenci sanguinolenti e informi; ma i cui volti serbano ancora le tracce di un'infernale agonia. Si è passata per il collo di questi disgraziati una lunga canna e le braccia riposano su questa canna. Sono stati poi inchiodati al muro e morirono a fuoco lento fra sofferenze inenarrabili. Dipingervi il quadro orrendo di queste carni decomposte che pendono pietosamente sulla muraglia insanguinata, è impossibile. In un angolo un altro corpo è crocefisso ma siccome era quello di un ufficiale si sono raffinate le sue sofferenze. Gli si cucirono gli occhi. Tutti i cadaveri ben inteso erano mutilati evirati in modo indescrivibile e i corpi apparivano gonfie come informe carogne. Ma non è tutto! Nel cimitero di Chui che serviva di rifugio ai turchi e donde tiravano da lontano potemmo vedere un altro spettacolo. Sotto la porta stessa di fronte alle trincee italiane cinque soldati erano stati sepolti fino alle spalle; le teste emergevano dalla sabbia nera del loro sangue: teste orribili a vedersi; vi si leggevano tutte le torture della fame e della sete(Gaston Leroud and the correspondent of Matin -Journal)
TRANSLATION: I saw in one mosque seventeen Italian crucifixed with their bodies reduced to the status of bloody rags and bones, but whose faces still retain traces of hellish agony. It has passed through the neck of these wretched a long barrel and arms resting on this rod. They were then nailed to the wall and died for a slow fire between untold suffering. It is impossible for us to paint the picture of these hideous rotted meat hanging pitifully on the bloody wall. In a corner another body is crucified but as an officer he was to have refined his sufferings. The eyes are stitched. All the bodies were mutilated and castrated; so indescribable was the scene and the bodies appeared swollen as shapeless carrion. But that's not all! In the cemetery of Chui which served as a refuge from the Turks and whence pulled from afar we could see another show. Under the same door in front of the Italian trenches five soldiers had been buried up to his shoulders, their heads emerged from the black sand stained of their blood: heads horrible to behold, and there you could read all the tortures of hunger and thirst (Gaston Leroud and the correspondent of Matin-Journal)
There it is even no reference to the fact that in 1918 happened the flu-epidemy called "Hispaniola", that was the main cause of deaths between civilian arabs in coastal Libya until 1922 (and greatly depopulated Cyrenaica). Why R-41 does not mention anything cruel done against the Italians by the muslim arabs? There it is a huge documentation about it! And don't forget that the spanish flu (and its consequences) continued to kill until 1930.John T.
- The devastating damages caused by the Pacification of Libya upon the Arab Libyan population are recognized by many scholarly sources and the Italian government itself. As Prime Minister of Italy, Silvio Berlusconi announced Italy's recognition of war crimes committed by Italy against the Libyan people when Libya was a colony in a 2008 agreement between Italy and Libya. At the signing Prime Minister Berlusconi stated the following quotation: "In this historic document, Italy apologizes for its killing, destruction and repression of the Libyan people during the period of colonial rule." (http://books.google.ca/books?id=cfhcjje8dFYC&pg=PA17&dq=berlusconi+libya&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7VMLT_ydNsPs0gHdoLm2Ag&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=berlusconi%20libya&f=false).Events prior to 1922 about deaths caused by the Spanish Flu have nothing to do with this, this is about an event from 1928 to 1932.--R-41 (talk) 21:06, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
There is No Such Thing as Pacification
The events that occurred in Libya is nothing but Genocide. Can you publically go out and call the Holocaust "Pacification of Germany"? "Pacification of Jews"?. You cannot because it is morally wrong. The same thing applies to the Libyan people. Just because they are not white, European or Christian it does not make them any lesser human beings than you are.
: Italian war crimes labeled as "Genocide"
Further details about Italian war crimes and genocide
Reference Arabic wiki to see how the the prominent Italian figures in North Africa are detailed as criminals who killed and slaughtered the native populace of Libya.
Fcmsaab89 (talk) 15:41, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
- http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1179/007516306X142924
- http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1354571042000254737:
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