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Michiru Kaioh

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  • True fan? Come on. You can discuss it on the talk page if you like. Danny Lilithborne 06:54, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Since I removed it first, let me explain that I genuinely did take you seriously. I thought, huh, that's interesting!, and I dug up episode 110 to see if what you said was true. And I can totally see what you mean, how she sticks her hands into the air. It does sort of look three-pointed. But it doesn't look like a trident exactly, which would be a much more severe shape, requiring her arms to curve up into the air. In the end, I removed it because I think it's a matter of opinion and probably a coincidence. Since this is an encyclopedia, we're only allowed to report on things that are definitely true. So please, don't take it personally, and please continue contributing. You clearly have knowledge to share.

The other thing that was removed was the info about Neptune's video-game only attack. We've actually been talking about setting up an article for the Sailor Moon video games for some time, and I think that information would be much better-suited for that page. So, again, don't take it personally; I think the varient attacks would be great information to have (in restrained detail), so although what you wrote was removed, I'll put it on the Michiru Kaioh talk page. That way it's preserved, so that, when we're ready to get that section up and running, we can use your info and not have to start from zero. :)

Again, thanks for contributing! WP has a lot of rules, but they're pretty easy to learn. I've been having the time of my life, and I hope you stick around. --Masamage 07:54, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Dude, I just don't know what you're talking about. I'm not saying that the trident thing wasn't intended, or that it's not an awesome little tidbit--I'm saying that this is an Encyclopedia, and we're not allowed to put anything in it unless we can prove it with external sources. It's against the rules. Find me a reliable reference and we'll put it back--it's that simple.

You don't need to be so angry at me--I was extremely polite to you, and I don't deserve to be accused of "thinking only on the left side" or not being a "true fan" or "dominating the field." Misplaced Pages works by consensus, and there are nine people signed up for WikiProject Sailor Moon plus countless more in WikiProject Anime and many others with no affiliation who contribute to and vote for and care about these articles. We welcome your opinion on things, but it's one opinion among many, and it doesn't give you the right to insult the rest of us for disagreeing with you. This is basic courtesy.

As for the video game attack, I said we'd put it back in, so I don't even know why you're so upset. We're in the middle of at least a dozen tasks and projects on the Sailor Moon pages right now, and starting up the video game thing would require thorough research and completeness. Exactly what you suggest, in fact! But since, as I say, we're in the middle of a ton of other things, we're going to set that aside and do a good job at what we've already got going before we take anything else on. Just be patient. --Masamage 17:56, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the apology; I really appreciate that.

And yeah, let's be honest; there's a lot of crap on Misplaced Pages. I participate in a lot of deletion discussions, so I've had a pretty good look at just how true that is. The general agreement among editors is that stupid content should be fixed, not used to justify more stupid content. But it's always going to be a work in progress, ne?

I can understand your anger, though. One of my first articles was about the Princess forms of the Sailor Moon characters, and it was destroyed within the space of a week. I put a lot of work into that, and I was very upset for a good while. But eventually I decided that maybe people were right, or maybe I should at least listen to their points. I decided to channel my efforts into connecting the SM articles so that no more disorganization would occur, which is actually where the WikiProject came from. So, yeah, it's totally understandable that you're irritated, and I respect that. But I hope it doesn't stop you from wanting to continue to help.

In particular, do you know a lot about the Sailor Moon video games? I've played three or four of them, but it's been a long time. I think what we need to do is create a gathering-place for all the information we know about them, and once we have that, decide where to distribute it around the project.

If you'd like to help with that, I'd be delighted. Let's put it at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Sailor Moon/Sailor Moon video games. That link is red right now because the page doesn't exist--but I invite you to create it, and toss in anything you know. :) It's in the WikiProject space, not in the article space, so it doesn't have to be organized or complete and no one will come along trying to delete it while we work on it.

Just a thought. All other forms of help are appreciated, too; for example, thanks for nabbing that typo off the Amazoness Quartet page. ^_^ But do remember, there are a lot of people here, so most things any of us do to articles will probably eventually be messed with in some fashion. It's just part of the system, and taking this personally every single time would be so exhausting that I strongly advise against it. ^^;;;

Thanks again for your contribution. --Masamage 21:33, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Sounds great! And yeah, don't worry about the grammar if you don't want to; that's my speciality. :D --Masamage 06:14, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

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Tenma

His name is actually テンマ, and I think that for the style of the articles, there shouldn't be too much kanji everywhere, only in the individual articles of each character. Folken de Fanel 10:27, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

But only Tenma in katakana is used in the manga. Anyway, if you want to stress the origin of the name, write it in a note below the paragraph, instead of leaving the katakana withoput anything more to people who don't know japanese...

It seem you haven't understood how Misplaced Pages works yet. Everyone can edit it. Even if you don't want me to edit something, I can and if I concidere it necessary, I will. Don't think of your edits as the best ones or the final ones, because it'll never be like that.

Yes, I think it is too much kanji. It's not because it's japanese animation that everything should be in kanji. This wikipedia is for english-speaking people, and the origin of the subject of an article absolutely doesn't matter, it'll still be written in english. And no, the whole thing won't be written in japanese. Go to the japanese wiki for that, please.

No, the kanji have absolutely no importance. Saint Seiya is a japanese show, but besides that...Writing kanji everywhere in the article won't make it "better". There's nothing the kanji can add. There's nothing "important" in it. It has nothing to do with the character or anyhting : japanese is just a language, which is not english.

Saga hair color

"The article was trying to compare the spirit inside Saga to be the same as Shun/Hades' spirit, I just want to point out that it's not the same spirit." :

Unless you have very solid proof to back up your claim, you can't do anything. And above all you can't edit out this comparison.

Because this is fact. It may have no significance, but both Shun and Saga, whe possessed either by the evil entity or Hades, have their hair turning jet black : yes, for the 2 characters, the exact same transformation occurs. And what do we find out at the end ? That Hades has jet-black hair and that's why Shun's hair turned jet black.

So while the article doesn't express any definitive answer, it IS relevant to note the similarities of the hair color changes. It's a serious possibility.

So no, it'll not be replaced by something else, biased.

"and over all the hint given all pointed to Ares as in God of War":

No, there as never been a signle hint of this.

Obviously you have been confused by the name the anime script writers gave to Pope Saga : Arles.

They gave the evil pope this name, when Kurumada hadn't yet thought about the story of Saga and Shion. This "Arles" name was an early decision of the script writers, as when they introduced the Crystal Saint, which was found to be highly contradictory with the latter scenario written by Kurumada in his manga.

To recify the incoherence, Takao Koyama, the main script writer of the anime, wrote a side story in one of the Jump Gold databook : it told the story of Saga, and how he first killed, Arles, Shion's young brother, and assumed his identity. When Shion died, he hadn't named a successor, and then Arles was chosen as the natural sucessor of Shion. But it was in fact Saga, assuming Arles identity. And that's why the Pope was named Arles in the anime.

But in the manga, this name (which could be confused with the name of the greek god of war) never appear. The pope is always thought to be Shion, then Saga.
The dark entity is never named, and there's only the hair color.

I think you've never read the manga. If both Saga and Shun changed hair color to match the jet black hair of Hades, it can't be simply mere chance.

Otherwise, why would Saga and Shun change hair color ? It would have been easier not to change their hair color. But they did.

Moreover it has been especially stressed by Kurumada that Shun changed hair color to jet black because Hades has jet black hair.

So this hair color change is linked to hades, and what do we see in the Sanctuary chapter ? Saga's hair changed from blond to jet black.

The comparison isn't misleading. It IS in the manga. We can't act as if it didn't happen.

But as I've said, the article makes no definitive answer.

Anyway, this is always more believable than your "Ares" theory which absolutely doesn't make any sense. Folken de Fanel 14:34, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Please don't act as a jalous kid. You aren't the best Saint Seiya fan, and you don't know much about Saint Seiya. Admit it and stop making trantrums. If you write bullshit about Saint Seiya here, it will get rectified, because we are on a 💕, which you don't own. You're not the only one "authorised" to write here. So please stop.

The thing is that, it's you who can't handle people finding the truth before you. Folken de Fanel 11:09, 16 October 2006 (UTC)