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Edit summaries et al

Hi Jim. I see you're a prolific editor, and collaborate pretty well with people - both admirable traits. I hope you won't be offended if I offer 2 suggestions of further improving your WP work?

Firstly, I see you do the occasional Edit summary; but the guideline is for ESs on all edits (incl. Talk pages actually). Secondly, there are currently about >130 sections in this talk page. Might it be time for another archive?

Best wishes, Trafford09 (talk) 13:57, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

The large majority of my edits are self-explanatory, obvious & not controversial. I typically only leave a summary when there could be a misunderstanding or where there's a dispute.

Yes, but I don't know how to archive. Jim Michael (talk) 14:58, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

We would all be grateful if you would always leave an edit summary. It is so helpful. (Thank you for your fine edits. You are very appreciated around here.) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:51, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply, Jim.

Well, re archiving, I can do that for you if you like (just as User talk:Jim Michael/Archive 1 was done I guess).

Re ESs, I fully accept that the large majority of your edits are self-explanatory, obvious & non-controversial. The trouble is though that, without a brief ES, other editors don't know the nature of an edit until they've gone to the trouble of reviewing it, which adds time & effort; hence the ES guidelines of ESs on all edits.

For a helpful list of some commonly used ES abbreviations, please see this list.

And one other aspect is that: the smaller the edits (say adding or removing one character), the more it leaves a hallmark similar to vandals (though I know now you're clearly not) - and such people hardly ever leave ESs.

Cheers, Trafford09 (talk) 10:41, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

I didn't get a reply, there, although I see you've made several edits.

I've taken the liberty of creating your 2nd Archive,

to make the latest topics easier for you and other editors to access. Hope you approve.

Trafford09 (talk) 17:06, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for archiving my talk page. I couldn't remember how the only other archiving of my talk page - 5 y ago - was done. Jim Michael (talk) 22:14, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

The archiving was my pleasure. I think editors should make life easier for others.

On that note, I do hope you took a look at the ES abbreviations - this list? Trafford09 (talk) 07:15, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

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I just reverted an edit you made to You Me Her -- it looks like these titles are not censored by the makers of the show, so they shouldn't be censored on Misplaced Pages. GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:24, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

As you can see from the article's history, the edit you mention wasn't done by me, it was done by an IP who edited the article after me. Jim Michael (talk) 04:43, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

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Diffusing Category:1960s comedy films

In December 2016 , you added {{category diffuse}} to Category:1960s comedy films. I don't see how or why that category should be broken in to smaller categories. Was there any rationale other than the size of the category (>1000 pages)? power~enwiki (π, ν) 22:41, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

That's one reason. The other is that this cat has several subcats; many of the articles within it should be moved to one or more of the subcats rather than being in the large parent cat. Jim Michael (talk) 04:14, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

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Hanns-Martin Schleyer

The lead for Serial killers lists them, mass murders and spree killers. I wouldn't think that four victims of a one off terrorist attack belong in any of those groups and four is a bit small to class as mass, anyway. Britmax (talk) 13:19, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Four people killed in the initial attack is sufficient for it to be classed as mass murder, regardless of whether or not it's terrorism and/or a one-off. In any case, it wasn't a one-off, it was part of a Red Army Faction terror campaign lasting years. Jim Michael (talk) 13:30, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Well, not to me. Let's see what others think. Britmax (talk) 13:31, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

If you disagree that 4 murdered in one incident is enough for a killing to be classed as mass murder, the place to discuss that is Talk:Mass murder. Jim Michael (talk) 13:33, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

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inadvertent revert

Sorry, that was inadvertent. I don't even know how I did that. Bus stop (talk) 13:02, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

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Sorry!

I didn't mean to remove the "mass shootings in California" category from Torrance bowling alley shooting; I was actually trying to re-add it after the anonymous editor removed it. My apologies! Jmertel23 (talk) 18:26, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

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Jim, while I appreciate your enthusiasm for working on year categories, you seem to keep forgetting to add navigation templates. See Template:Year by category. Dimadick (talk) 17:39, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

I don't forget; I've never added those to categories because I don't know what to include on each cat and because I'm not aware of whether or not they're policy. I thought they were optional because most year-based cats I've encountered (even if you exclude those I've created) don't have them. A problem I've noticed with many of them is that they cause cats to be present which shouldn't be, in some cases because one of the cats present is a subcat of another. Jim Michael (talk) 18:07, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

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Africa

You recentrly created category Category:Rape in Africa, but left it mostly empty. We already had categories about rapes in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Ethiopia, Libya, Nigeria, and South Africa, so I added them as subcategories. You might want to check whether we have relevant articles for the other countries of the continent. Dimadick (talk) 19:26, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you; I'd intended to populate it with those subcats. Jim Michael (talk) 20:02, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

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2019 Dhaka fire

Thanks for this, and sorry for my bad edit. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:12, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

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A beer for you!

Glad to see you actively starting articles again. E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:49, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, but you can see that 4 of the articles which I started this year have been put to AfD: Torrance bowling alley shooting (deleted), Koszalin escape room fire (merged), 2019 Paris explosion (kept) & Cancún nightclub shooting (in discussion). Jim Michael (talk) 17:15, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

• Yes, I did see. I try to be very careful about which current events I start articles on. Sometimes (2017 Halamish stabbing attack, 2018 Liège attack,) I know the instant I hear the news bulletin that a good article can be built. More often, I wait i=until I actually find INDEPTH, GEOSCOPE coverage. I know what it is like to have articles deleted, I write articles on topics that some editors WP:JUSTDONTLIKEIT. But please don't be discouraged. You might try writing some articles in your sandbox, just to be sure that when the page goes up, the sourcing is already there to keep it up. But please do keep wriiting articles on notable EVENTS.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:35, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Please see my proposal to speedily rename a category

• Category:Liverpool murder cases to Category:People murdered in Liverpool Hugo999 (talk) 08:34, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

C:Liverpool murder cases should be deleted & replaced by 2 cats: C:People murdered in Liverpool, which should be a subcat of Category:Murder in Liverpool. That's how it's done with Category:People murdered in London, which is a subcat of Category:Murder in London; Category:People murdered in Paris, which is a subcat of Category:Murder in Paris etc. Jim Michael (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

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Serial killers

Hi, I notice that you continually have to explain that the serial killer task force includes mass murderers. Why don't you try to have the project name changed to something like " serial and mass killer task force" to resolve this once and for all? Regards, WWGB (talk) 07:48, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

It would be a good idea, but I can't work out an accurate concise title. The project also covers spree killing. Jim Michael (talk) 08:04, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Salamanca nightclub shooting

Hello, thanks for creating Salamanca nightclub shooting. I saw the article was nominated for deletion and passed the discussion. I wasn't able to get to it on time, but I have to say the article is notable (unlike other stubs you've created). It would be good to keep an eye on this event since it is part of a tit-for-tat between Jalisco New Generation Cartel gunmen and a local oil thief gang. Please reach out if you have any questions. Cheers, MX (✉ • ✎) 16:05, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Please don't delete other editor's posts

Please don't delete other editor's posts on AfD, whether in error or not. 97.118.129.179 (talk) 01:34, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

I didn't realise that I'd done so, and didn't intend to. That must have been caused by an error in the site or the program which operates it. Jim Michael (talk) 01:44, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

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I've only just noticed that some malfunction caused 2 comments to be deleted when I added mine. I don't know how that happened. I only intended to add my comment, not delete anyone else's. The accidentally deleted comments have been rightfully reinstated. Jim Michael (talk) 01:46, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

When

adding 'history' to items that relate to date and crime categories - is that something you acquired from a precedent somewhere, or are you doing it of your own bat? it would be useful to know... JarrahTree 05:18, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Do you mean adding the history parameter on project banners on talk pages of cats about a particular month/year/decade and exchanging a country/continent banner for a specific history banner of that country/continent? If so, then it's clear that it's relevant. For example, cats about crime in particular years & decades in Australia are certainly of interest to the Australian crime & Australian history projects. Likewise, cats about crimes in particular years/decades in Brazil, Canada & India are of interest to their countries' history projects. In the cases of exchanging the US Project for the US History Project; the Europe Project for the European History Project & the Philippines Project for the Philippine History Project, it makes more sense to use a more specific project banner. I'm not the first WP editor to make these improvements on talk pages of cats; I copied the common sense approach from other editors in that regard. Jim Michael (talk) 05:38, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Well common sense and relevance place your idea on it - thanks for the reply. I disagree but will not touch any of your edits or in any way hinder your approach seeing you have gone to the trouble to explain. The major problem is that there are not any specific guidelines as to why or how some projects are added, and some editors show nothing in any way that might be considered to be anything that could be even considered common sense, but then that is relative. It is I have been trying to keep up with the updating murder and crime in oceania - and knowing the relative weakness of participation in the australian history sub project for instance - to add a tag for that is like adding the 'culture' tag - fairly pointless. Thanks again, I suspect no one will ever ever resolve project tagging and related issues - it seems an untethered and misundestood area JarrahTree 05:57, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Clearer guidelines in regard to inclusion criteria would be helpful for many projects, task forces etc. I can't see how a cat about crimes in a particular year in Australia could be outside the scope of both the Australian crime & Australian history projects, as those cats are specifically about both of those things. Jim Michael (talk) 06:10, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Ah if it was real life and the coffee/beer/tea therein lies a complicated tale of issues re project tagging over the last ten years - thank you for your replies - and appreciate the effort - as to why and how things fit - I have said all I can on wiki - cheers JarrahTree 06:15, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the fixes on British Crime - JarrahTree 04:28, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

It took me a long time to find all the appropriate projects. It's surprising that there's a British crime project, but no American crime project. There's a European history project, but no Asian history project. Jim Michael (talk) 05:28, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

That's it - there is no consistency with it all JarrahTree 06:57, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

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Proposal to merge category

Please see my proposal to upmerge Category:2016 murders in Turkey. Hugo999 (talk) 20:21, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Please see my proposal to upmerge category "March 2016 Istanbul bombing"

• Category:March 2016 Istanbul bombing which contains one article with the same title. The single article can be upmerged to Category:2016 murders in Turkey (which will probably be retained) . Hugo999 (talk) 07:59, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

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I have created some more missing persons in countries categories

Hi, I see that you have created talk pages and added images to some categories that I have created. I am impressed with what you have done. Are you able you able to create more images and and on to some talk pages that I have created. I would really like it if you would as you are very good at it. Davidgoodheart (talk) 04:57, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

I haven't created images; do you mean project banners that I've put on talk pages? Jim Michael (talk) 15:44, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

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Minatitlán shooting

Thought you might be interested in taking at look at the Minatitlán shooting, which happened over the weekend. Reminds me a lot of the Salamanca nightclub shooting article you made. Both involve Mexico's notorious Jalisco New Generation Cartel. Cheers, MX (✉ • ✎) 16:23, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

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Please be aware that The Troubles comes under WP:1RR (one-revert rule), i.e. only one revert is allowed in any 24-hour period. Scolaire (talk) 09:50, 25 May 2019 (UTC)