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Merry Christmas!!
Hi Bbb23, thanks for all you do on Misplaced Pages, and for all your help at BLPN. My you have a wonderful Christmas and a Happy New Year. (and if you don't celebrate Christmas please feel free to take that as a Happy Hanukkah, a great Dhanu Sankranti, a blessed Hatsumode, or whatever holiday you want to insert there.) Zaereth (talk) 08:55, 25 December 2019 (UTC
Restore Deleted Page
Happy 2020! I am delighted that my account has been unblocked. In the Sandbox, I learned that I need to contact you on a previously deleted page titled "Zhu Qizhan" that I created early 2019 and that I want to recreate. FYI, my account was blocked on June 3, 2019. Thank you very much.--C2000fa (talk) 21:10, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I follow you, but my assumption is you would like Zhu Qizhan restored, which I've done. Best of luck.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:29, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. --C2000fa (talk) 16:22, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
thank you very much for deleting my page
thank you very much for deleting https://en.wikipedia.org/David_Baden-Powell
with the recent death of lord baden-powell and the reshuffle of the family peerage, and since i am now next in line for all the family titles, my dad's cousin put the page about me up. it contains a lot of PII data that i dont want online. so i was trying to think of a diplomatic way to ask him to delete the page, but you saved me the trouble.
so, thanks for that. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:D4AE:5500:E04A:AC4B:72E0:C964 (talk) 14:32, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
Another Baden-Powell for deletion
Hi Bbb23. Just saw the setion above and clicking here and there came upon this bio, which, were it not for the fact that the person is related to a handful of famous Baden-Powells, would never have ben written. Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 14:54, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
update by some other guy...
actually, he is there because he is the current Lord Baden-Powell. British nobility lineage is worth documenting as it is relevant to english commonwealth countries. maybe its just not not significant wherever you are. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:D4AE:5500:E04A:AC4B:72E0:C964 (talk) 05:12, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
The usual
Hey man, thanks for being on top of stuff as usual. I noticed this CU block today. Out of curiosity, when you look for socks of KaranSharma0445, do you by chance often look for Dimpletisha socks? These two are impossible to tell apart, but often run into conflict and/or edit the same stuff. I'm somewhat interested in Mahir D Desai who has a few areas of intersection with previous Dimpletishas, including at MTV Ace of Space, which is an odd one. Also, that user created a template, which was subsequently edited by the KaranSharma0445 sock, so my gnome sense is tingling. If you get any spare time, I'd appreciate if you could consider looking at it. Thanks per usual. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:54, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- I did only a cursory check of Mahir D Desai, and there is no evidence he is a sock. Behaviorally, Dimpletisha and KaranSharma0445 may be similar, but technically they are not. I don't need to concern myself with the niceties of technical details as they edit from different continents.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
User:DanJames2020
Hi there, would you be able to do a checkuser on User:DanJames2020 for similarities with User:DJMaina and other known sockpuppets please? This guy doesn't seem to know how to take a hint! – PeeJay 19:41, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, I've blocked the user. I will reopen the SPI tomorrow because the master is incorrect.--Bbb23 (talk) 03:18, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Need help!
Hi! This is KP (talk) 22:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC) . I'm relatively new to Editing articles. I recently tagged a bunch of statements made on the page Jaggi_Vasudev as being and not fact, because the articles being cited were not news-reports but opinion and oped pieces. You seemed to have reverted that. Could you help me understand if I got this wrong? If I did, what would be the right way to point out a potential WP:OPINION and WP:BIAS in the section titled "Politics, Religion and Pseudoscience"? Thanks again for helping out a novice! KP (talk)
- (talk page watcher) Make a thread on the talk page for every concern. Copy the content (or line) in question to that thread. Then in another line propose your preferred version. Explain your reasons. and work for WP:CONSENSUS--DBigXrayᗙ 22:19, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also read and follow WP:INDENT--DBigXrayᗙ 22:20, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking the time out to help me with formatting rules WP:INDENT! Will surely take up your advice on trying to get WP:CONSENSUS! However, looking at the pattern, there seems to be a clear targeted bias, including tag-teamed approaches to vandalism, with yourself included. Case in point, a legitimately agreed upon Wiki norm, non-negotiable fact of calling opinions out as opinions, was reverted, not once, but twice by User:Bbb23, without as much as a courtesy comment. This leads me, or any unbiased onlooker, to believe that this is a pattern of systemic-bullying, and well-coordiated libelous harassment, than good faith. Would you be kind enough to help me out with norms on escalation process about the same? Thanks! :) KP (talk) 22:58, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Can you please clarify which 2 editors you are accusing of tag teaming? It is not clear.
- Yes, Misplaced Pages is biased against people who are associated with the subject of the article if they try to convert it into an advertisement. The admins here regularly block such editors for WP:TE --DBigXrayᗙ 23:21, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking the time out to help me with formatting rules WP:INDENT! Will surely take up your advice on trying to get WP:CONSENSUS! However, looking at the pattern, there seems to be a clear targeted bias, including tag-teamed approaches to vandalism, with yourself included. Case in point, a legitimately agreed upon Wiki norm, non-negotiable fact of calling opinions out as opinions, was reverted, not once, but twice by User:Bbb23, without as much as a courtesy comment. This leads me, or any unbiased onlooker, to believe that this is a pattern of systemic-bullying, and well-coordiated libelous harassment, than good faith. Would you be kind enough to help me out with norms on escalation process about the same? Thanks! :) KP (talk) 22:58, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Guess who could not stay away?
Less than 5 days after his block complaint, User: Oknazevad is posting in the very articles he promised to stay away from the Mandalorian rather than risk being blocked or topic-banned from Star Wars-related articles. In his words:
- "I am willing to walk away. Frankly, I was getting too hot headed, and drifting into bad territory. I'll stay away from editing both articles for the next couple of monnths. Not all Star Wars articles; the final season of The Clone Wars premiers next month and I'd like to contribute to our coverage of that, and as a life long fan I've had dozens of Star Wars articles on my watchlist for the better part of a decade, so it's ansignificant area of interest for me, but I can see how that is getting in the way of my editing clear-headedly. A block is unneeded, as they're suooosed to be preventative not punitive and I pledge not to edit the contentious articles. I remain unhappy with the pattern of edits I sought to undo, but I can also understand that my behavior i shutting collegiality needed for the project, so I just have to live with it. Of course, if I break my pledge a block will be warranted"<>br
Less than 5 days later, he was back editing the article as if nothing had happened.(1) I am presuming he thinks no one is going to act on a stale promise made at EWN. I would like the user blocked for presenting us with a bold-faced lie to avoid being blocked. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 03:49, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Your diff is to a talk page, not an article.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:39, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Respectfully, note that the initial complaint not only discussed the edit-warring but the civility issues, encountered on both talk pages, article pages and even his own usertalk page. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 15:49, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- But I guess it isn't really of consequence. If they don't learn from the experience, they will be back and they will probably get blocked for longer because they were given a chance to change, and they didn't use it. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 04:23, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for blocking J-Man11
His poor sentence structure and messing of articles is a big give away and requires painful editing/reverting.
BlueD954 (talk) 05:09, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
COIN
Hi Bbb23, Just informing you that KumareshPassoupathi has named you on Misplaced Pages:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Clarification_on_CoI but the ping was malformed, so here is a note. --DBigXrayᗙ 10:11, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Oxford2008
While investigating Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Oxford2008, I found these two reversions by you (Sebastian Doggart and Courting Condi) where you removed edits to AfDs by User:212.157.248.162. I get that they're bogus, but we generally don't revert AfD comments, just mark them as socks or WP:SPA or whatever. You also blocked that IP with the comment, "mail server". Could you give some additional explanation? -- RoySmith (talk) 18:08, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- I frankly don't understand why you repeatedly show such poor judgment, particularly at SPI. Although I appreciate your willingness to contribute, you have been acting far more like a clerk than a patrolling administrator, and you are monopolizing the cases, which prevents bona fide clerk trainees from learning. Why on earth did you edit the archive of an SPI? Why do you ask so many weird questions? If it were just once, it would be different, but it's chronic, although not every report. The IP was editing from a mail server and in the manner of an experienced user. I reverted their edits the way I would do with many blocked IPs. Not a big deal, despite your apparent view that it is.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:18, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- I am sorry you find my involvement to be monopolizing, or my questions weird. I ask questions because I'm trying to understand how things work. As far as I can tell, I'm just doing what's appropriate based on my reading of WP:SPI/AI. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:26, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: I just came across this thread after adding the section below. To be honest, I'm shocked to learn that you're an admin and want to echo/amplify BBB's concerns about your exceptionally bad judgment. Frankly seeing this edit and then you opening Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Ernest_Barttelot_Huffington-Smyth wasting tons of time is just plain stupid. WTF? You knew the article was a hoax and you should have WP:CSD#A11-ed immediately Instead we wasted time on it at AFD and propagated phony info. Toddst1 (talk) 06:10, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- I am sorry you find my involvement to be monopolizing, or my questions weird. I ask questions because I'm trying to understand how things work. As far as I can tell, I'm just doing what's appropriate based on my reading of WP:SPI/AI. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:26, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Weird COI editing / socking
Hey BBB, you came across Dede Wilsey a few weeks ago. Summersun77 (talk · contribs) has been slow-mo edit-warring on what appears to be an obvious WP:COI situation - having only edited (spin-doctored) articles about Dede and her son. It now looks like s/he has invoked a sock to continue the edit war, Anonymous0U812 (talk · contribs). Can you keep an eye on this? Toddst1 (talk) 05:59, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
Edit-war - Khruner
Dear Bbb23,
Recently I filed a report on the administrator's noticeboard in regard to an edit-war that occurred less than a month ('2 weeks and a couple of days') ago. I looked into it and noticed A LOT had occurred between the involved parties.
One of the party's behavior had not yet been reviewed because no report was filed yet while the other party got a permanent ban as far I can tell looking at the available information. Considering the severity of the edit-war I thought it would be good to take measures to avoid having such an incident occur again.
It appears you have not reviewed the case for the reason of it being 'stale'. Please explain this for me if you can. Caribbeandelight (talk) 15:09, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- What other accounts have you had on Misplaced Pages?--Bbb23 (talk) 15:10, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- That's what I'm wondering. A new editor whose first venture outside userspace is to report someone for editwarring with an editor blocked for using multiple accounts? Doug Weller talk 15:14, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for sharing your concern about my behavior. If you believe my behavior in in violation of community guidelines then please file a report in the appropiate place. As explained before I happened to stumble into this edit war on my favorite page about my ancestor's culture. I see what the other party did to contribute to the page and I saw how Khruner responded. It piqued my interest and as you can see resulted in my report. Could you now also answer my question? Caribbeandelight (talk) 15:26, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- We don't need to "file a report" on your behavior, but you have not answered my question about previous accounts.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:47, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for sharing your concern about my behavior. If you believe my behavior in in violation of community guidelines then please file a report in the appropiate place. As explained before I happened to stumble into this edit war on my favorite page about my ancestor's culture. I see what the other party did to contribute to the page and I saw how Khruner responded. It piqued my interest and as you can see resulted in my report. Could you now also answer my question? Caribbeandelight (talk) 15:26, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- That's what I'm wondering. A new editor whose first venture outside userspace is to report someone for editwarring with an editor blocked for using multiple accounts? Doug Weller talk 15:14, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Hypocritepedia
Rangeblock just ended, and right off they're back to this, so the rangeblock on 69.178.192.0/22 needs to be re-applied. Nate • (chatter) 00:01, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
User Biografer
Hello. Given the heartfelt appeal by the user near the bottom of their sockpuppet investigation page, and the productivity, growth, and interest in the project they have shown, can this indef for sockpuppeting be overturned or maybe give them a week slap-on-the-puppet ban but let them return? Seems a possible case for leniency, and they have kind-of thrown themselves on the mercy of the court, which shows commitment to the project. Maybe let's give a sucker an even break on this one. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:22, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- There is no way Mishae is going to be unblocked by anyone for a long time.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:28, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Question
Who is the master for SCUTI85? I appear to be missing it but I suspect they've returned and will need to file an SPI. Praxidicae (talk) 16:25, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- That's not clear. Complicated history. My preference would be for you to file an SPI naming SCUTI85 as the master. That will give me an opportunity to straighten this out. Please let me know when you've filed it. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:31, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Done. Indeed it does seem complicated as I found a few other overlapping cases. They're definitely a sock though. Praxidicae (talk) 16:48, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- What overlapping cases do you mean?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:51, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Done. Indeed it does seem complicated as I found a few other overlapping cases. They're definitely a sock though. Praxidicae (talk) 16:48, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Yid army
I’m a Jew mate big Tottenham fan a club with a primary Jewish fanbase I can use the word so don’t you go saying it’s a derogatory term when I regularly use it and it’s chanted by thousands of other lads down the lane RossButsy (talk) 18:07, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- I don't care. Don't use the word on Misplaced Pages. If I see you do it again, I'll block you.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:13, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Yes sir RossButsy (talk) 18:21, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
WP:EMPTYCAT
Hi Bbb23,
I always appreciate your discussion contributions, edits, and closes, but I'm curious why you would unilaterally delete my WP:EMPTYCAT shortcut when it's a shortcut that is used, chiefly by me and potentially by others as well, and also since it's consistent with our naming conventions for shortcuts like WP:TRIVIALCAT and WP:SMALLCAT?
I've made minor, non-controversial bold edits to other Misplaced Pages project information pages as well, and I've noticed that Levivich has as well. So I don't see why we can't have two shortcuts to a project information section when we do frequently?
Cheers,
--Doug Mehus T·C 19:03, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- You shouldn't have changed the policy. Once I reverted you, there was no reason for the shortcut.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:04, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Bbb23, But my understanding is that bold edits can occur to any page, so there's nothing restricting me from making that edit. I'm just wondering why you reverted me; other editors and admins make small changes to policies without establishing consensus all the time. Adding a shortcut certainly seems minor to me, particularly when it's consistent with our naming conventions elsewhere and WP:C1 was still the primary shortcut (that is, the first one listed). Now, for major changes to policy, while one can boldly make the change, they are most likely, and understandably, to be reverted. Doug Mehus T·C 19:07, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't have much respect for your judgment in these matters. I agree with JzG that you spend far too much time in project space. Although I have not examined all your edits, the ones I've seen, particularly to ANI, have been unhelpful and borderline disruptive. If you continue in this fashion, you may find yourself sanctioned in some manner. I'd probe your edits more deeply, but, frankly, I'd rather do other things.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:11, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Bbb23, But my understanding is that bold edits can occur to any page, so there's nothing restricting me from making that edit. I'm just wondering why you reverted me; other editors and admins make small changes to policies without establishing consensus all the time. Adding a shortcut certainly seems minor to me, particularly when it's consistent with our naming conventions elsewhere and WP:C1 was still the primary shortcut (that is, the first one listed). Now, for major changes to policy, while one can boldly make the change, they are most likely, and understandably, to be reverted. Doug Mehus T·C 19:07, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Pending sockpuppet investigation
Hi- I filed a sockpuppet investigation that is still pending. I saw a checkuser investigated and its waiting for administration and close. How long do those typically take until these investigations and results get assessed by an admin and closed out with appropriate action as necessary? Thank you. 108.21.182.146 (talk) 17:23, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Generally a clerk will make the necessary determinations. There is no average length of time for that to happen.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:06, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for the reply and the clarification. 108.21.182.146 (talk) 18:09, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Illegal use of rollback
Using rollback to revert a non-vandalism edit is against policy and can result in a block or losing admin privileges if you possess them. 155.19.91.37 (talk) 19:16, 14 January 2020 (UTC)