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			{{U\|MarkH21}}, I am sorry I hadn't noticed that you were editing this page. And when I did notice it, I had to all of it.

			It looks like you are overly dependent on Lamb, and filling in stuff that he doesn't cover or doesn't know about. For instance, does he say that the 1684 treaty was with the Dzungar Khanate? Does he say that it was lost?

			Lamb's limitations are well-recognized. See the ] page. What we would have liked to see from him is a decent explanation of why the British changed the border between between 1846 and 1868. It is quite inexplicable other than by a presumption of racism. His claims that the British surveyors were next to perfect and the Maharaja was expansionist etc. point to his own racism.

			The fact is that whatever border the British on their maps made little difference to the Maharaja. The border was known to him based on customary practices, and those borders were followed.

			There are plenty of other scholars who have covered the subject, even though I admit that Demchok often doesn't get the attention it deserves. I would particularly recommend the book by Fisher, Rose and Huttenback, which is the most thorough in examining the historical evidence. -- ] (]) 18:22, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

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Big revert

MarkH21, I am sorry I hadn't noticed that you were editing this page. And when I did notice it, I had to revert all of it.

It looks like you are overly dependent on Lamb, and filling in stuff that he doesn't cover or doesn't know about. For instance, does he say that the 1684 treaty was with the Dzungar Khanate? Does he say that it was lost?

Lamb's limitations are well-recognized. See the Alastair Lamb page. What we would have liked to see from him is a decent explanation of why the British changed the border between between 1846 and 1868. It is quite inexplicable other than by a presumption of racism. His claims that the British surveyors were next to perfect and the Maharaja was expansionist etc. point to his own racism.

The fact is that whatever border the British on their maps made little difference to the Maharaja. The border was known to him based on customary practices, and those borders were followed.

There are plenty of other scholars who have covered the subject, even though I admit that Demchok often doesn't get the attention it deserves. I would particularly recommend the book by Fisher, Rose and Huttenback, which is the most thorough in examining the historical evidence. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:22, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

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